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Did Huawei ever invent anything? 

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We've all heard of Huawei in one way or the other, but what do you actually know about this company?
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@Dan_wiles
@Dan_wiles 3 года назад
A friend of mine was teaching kids in China. He said on one of the last days of term he told the kids they could have a fun lesson, put some music on, get paper, pens, coloring stuff out and just draw pictures of whatever they wanted. All of them seem confused and told him they didn't know what they should draw; "anything at all, draw whatever comes into your mind!" he told them, but still none of them would draw. He said "look draw whatever you are interested in, you could draw a house, or a leopard, whatever you want!" when the lesson had come to an end he took their papers, every single kid had either drawn a picture of a house or a leopard. I think that speaks volumes.
@archockencanto1645
@archockencanto1645 3 года назад
@blupheonix44 Fear is a bigger part of it. You are really scared to stand out at all. I had the same situation in my childhood due to... Ahem teachers who were allowed to use force...
@CapitalTeeth
@CapitalTeeth 3 года назад
Chinese kids are taught in school that you're supposed to follow instructions and never ask questions. It attempts to create the exact type of people authoritarian regimes want. People who never ask questions.
@leapdrive
@leapdrive 3 года назад
@@archockencanto1645 , as if the kids now are smarter and more knowledgeable with the lessons than previous generation kids! The classic way of teaching is vastly superior than today.
@leapdrive
@leapdrive 3 года назад
China’s Silicon Valley should be called Silly Con Valley. And China thinks they’re a lot smarter than everyone else when the opposite is more realistic.
@archockencanto1645
@archockencanto1645 3 года назад
@@leapdrive If you want people to just remember things then force is good. But, I assume you value creativity more? As for being smarter and knowledgeable... Naturally, each generation will have less intelligence, memory and so on than the last due to the lack of selective pressures. We aren't magically going to get smarter when there's no evolutionary incentive for it. Every generation, the gene pool is more diluted in terms of these things as (unfortunately) just about anyone can reproduce. I don't understand why this isn't talked about more. Maybe many fear that this leads somewhere to racial theory and what-not or, something deeper. The 'classic' way is better if: a) the teacher doesn't like to go on power trips and actually likes to teach. b) the student wants to study/learn. The first case is common enough but I've hardly met 3 people who genuinely want to learn something random in school for the sake of learning. It's always money, fear, compulsion or ignorance. This is different as you go from school to college and university but I was and am only referring to school here. I'm not denying the role of suppression, which is very much needed. But, the moment it starts touching the extreme, it can affect an impressionable child for life.
@cambridgemart2075
@cambridgemart2075 3 года назад
A company I worked for decided to set up a factory building our product in China, but with one of our engineers performing the final setup which was a crucial step in making the product work; a while later, a machine that looked suspiciously like ours was exhibited at a trade show in China and they actually sold some of them, but none of them worked as advertised as they lacked the knowledge to set them up. We very quickly shut down the manufacturing site in China after that.
@tsm4201979
@tsm4201979 3 года назад
you would bring shit into china, and they will copy that too!
@alexosow
@alexosow 3 года назад
Haha of course as sad as that is
@theslimeylimey
@theslimeylimey 3 года назад
A company I worked for built a custom automated laser welding machine for a local North American company who's customer was a Chinese factory. The Chinese company left the machine in it's opened shipping crate outside in the rain while they painted the new factory floors and it got rusty. The company I worked for had to send a guy over there to clean it up and make it work. While he was there, there was always a guy guarding a screened off area of the factory and he was told not to go over there. While the guard was on a break he went and took a look and saw they had already built an almost identical copy of their machine. The interesting thing was the copied machine was of an earlier design submitted for a design review months ago to the local North American company. The Chinese contact working at this local company must have sent the CAD model to China where they built a copy from the preliminary design before the actual machine was even shipped. After that, the company I worked for refuses to submit any CAD files for review purposes. When it comes to IP China has ZERO morals and is a essentially a giant vacuum cleaner sucking up the worlds R&D for free and then undercutting on the finished product. It is rampant and is just one example of many I have first or second hand knowledge of.
@alexosow
@alexosow 3 года назад
@@theslimeylimey Welcome to China :/ this is probably the only reason they're able to make these kinds of things, since it's cheaper without R&D
@edzanjero353
@edzanjero353 3 года назад
Serves your company's asses right for committing Economic Treason.
@dave7830
@dave7830 11 месяцев назад
Back in the mid 80's I worked as a tech for a company that wanted to expand into China. They had to set up a partnership with a chinese company, the Chinese "partner" sent over engineers to learn how the product was made. Once they had all the info they needed, they cancelled the partnership and started making a copycat version.
@Pringlebox
@Pringlebox 11 месяцев назад
and 100% chance is much worse quality too, that’s why i imagine despite all their knockoffs the wests stuff always is the top cchoice
@TheREALTyreeSneed2
@TheREALTyreeSneed2 10 месяцев назад
China is an ancient civilization, and as such, still follow a few "ancient" survival traits, such as DECEIT OF OTHERS TO GET AHEAD. disgusting archaic culture
@minhngo8857
@minhngo8857 9 месяцев назад
China is truly a failed state
@SpruceMoose-iv8un
@SpruceMoose-iv8un 9 месяцев назад
Makes you wonder why the f company's still do that, even Tesla, you just know BYD is going to come out with its own model 3.
@parabot2
@parabot2 9 месяцев назад
He just jelly his half cast kids can't remain in China
@ashaer05
@ashaer05 2 года назад
As a research scientist in the US with a publication record, from my experience I can guarantee you that the Chinese are raised to not consider copying as stealing. Nothing related to copyrights ever exist in their culture.
@pastasoo
@pastasoo 9 месяцев назад
Copyright is a western invention meant to colonize innovation. Humanity would be far more advanced than where we currently are if it weren't for copyrights.
@Olfan
@Olfan 9 месяцев назад
I've heard this, too. "You can't own knowledge, imagine paying license fees for applying Fourier transformations, it's ridiculous." While from a research point of view there's a lot of appeal to this way of thinking, from a product point of view this is very problematic.
@Yellow_S436
@Yellow_S436 8 месяцев назад
Also China does not colonize and steal in other countries. Not in Iraq, Syria, Vanuelzela, or anywhere the western countries have raped. Sound good now?
@luxinjianluxinjian7386
@luxinjianluxinjian7386 8 месяцев назад
你们最开始是偷窃英国的
@AbhishekSingh-jf7co
@AbhishekSingh-jf7co 3 месяца назад
Can u tell me about indian americans in us as reasearch scientist? are they innovative or creative? i am curious to know please
@24emerald
@24emerald 3 года назад
Ask a company in China if they know what "Copyright" means and they will answer, "It means COPY ... Right?
@OhNoseNotAgainn
@OhNoseNotAgainn 3 года назад
no, it means copy it right 100%, not copy it wrong.
@mahoslash
@mahoslash 3 года назад
Nope, it means copy it and look as if they have the legal rights to do so.
@carstenhansen5757
@carstenhansen5757 3 года назад
It means "the right to copy".
@dexstarr6907
@dexstarr6907 3 года назад
It means the right to copy everyone else. Am I right?
@TheGreg6466
@TheGreg6466 3 года назад
@@carstenhansen5757 yeah that's the best version of the joke, old one now but still funny.
@silverhawk7324
@silverhawk7324 3 года назад
When you max out spying instead of science...
@aeonofstarrail1349
@aeonofstarrail1349 3 года назад
Spiffing Brits next video. Spying only in Civilization is not broken and perfectly balanced.
@AlphariusandOmegon
@AlphariusandOmegon 2 года назад
Yes but it works for them because western elites are more worried about getting rich in the short term and not caring they've hollowed out entire sectors of the Western economies.
@TheNefastor
@TheNefastor 2 года назад
They aren't very good spy. We're just giving them a free pass. When that stops, they're screwed.
@Chonkems
@Chonkems Год назад
My father worked for the only plant in Michigan that did work on the Dodge Demon (which was kept heavily under wraps until it's reveal) as the head of the testing process for the project. A woman was literally being paid by someone in China to take photos of the underside, engine, body and dashboard internals of the car. The FBI arrested her at work the next day.
@SchizoReviews1599
@SchizoReviews1599 11 месяцев назад
Imagine Chinese drivers with access to Dodge Demon knockoffs😅 it would be anarchy
@duggydugg3937
@duggydugg3937 10 месяцев назад
CCP infect anything
@duggydugg3937
@duggydugg3937 10 месяцев назад
look up gutter oil.. spit oil.. tsina is corrupt to the core
@duggydugg3937
@duggydugg3937 10 месяцев назад
chinese ppl invest in empty condos.. better than bit coin i suppose...
@thatcampingmann9543
@thatcampingmann9543 10 месяцев назад
@@stickfeeling yeah there just like long term leases or something
@tim1398
@tim1398 Год назад
I was at a US startup that was acquired by a large (US) company. Some of the top talent was dissatisfied with the new management, and were recruited to a new local Huawei office starting up in the same field for large pay increases and sign on bonuses. But it quickly became obvious to them that they were merely being pumped for info and no product dev was really happening at that location and they left. Legalized industrial espionage, plain and simple.
@tapiwakay
@tapiwakay 11 месяцев назад
They need honey traps
@BoatsNhoes824
@BoatsNhoes824 11 месяцев назад
Got honey dicked
@Athena_208
@Athena_208 9 месяцев назад
Yup they steal all the information.
@Kevenant
@Kevenant 8 месяцев назад
Now you know how most of "China's" ancient inventions came from. Destroyed empires.
@egonjensen7667
@egonjensen7667 3 года назад
I salute your bravery Winston. You're one of the very few people on this planet who aren't afraid to call out China on its wrongdoing
@DougguoD
@DougguoD 3 года назад
Well, WION
@serpentza
@serpentza 3 года назад
Thanks mate, the threats against my family and personal safety keep ramping up but I'll not be silenced
@egonjensen7667
@egonjensen7667 3 года назад
@@serpentza Your videos give me contradictory feelings because your content is refreshing and so badly needed in this world but at the same time I know you put your family at risk as the ccp is absolutely ruthless and knows no moral bounds. Above all stay safe
@actionjumper42
@actionjumper42 3 года назад
@Jonas Candies please get off your high horse and realize that his wife’s family is at risk, as well as constant harassment from the CCP even while in the US. You cannot do anything remotely like what he’s doing while in the Guo.
@humblegorilla935
@humblegorilla935 3 года назад
@@serpentza My wife bought a fake Louis Vuitton bag from Shenzen with fake serial numbers and says made in France, but it is made in china back in 2017. It's still good quality. You can't tell the difference. $40 Louis Vuitton bags in Shenzhen
@soapmode
@soapmode 3 года назад
Hilarious article on the BBC today about Huawei's 'innovative' new flip phone, that is a complete copypasta of the Samsung model.
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 2 года назад
Having got enough of Apple, I bought a Xiaomi phone. But what should I buy instead if I want a good but honest phone that is not an Apple?
@dtothebtotheh
@dtothebtotheh 2 года назад
@@seriouscat2231 I’m not sure what you’re trying to say………
@Sundara229
@Sundara229 2 года назад
@@seriouscat2231 Fairphone lol
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 2 года назад
@@dtothebtotheh, I want to know about Android phones that are not made in China.
@TheNefastor
@TheNefastor 2 года назад
@@denniskowalski8442 of course they do : work is hard, and copying "works so well" for China...
@vicentealbaespinosa761
@vicentealbaespinosa761 2 года назад
When we toured Tokyo, Japan last September 2019, we happened to came across a new model of Huawei smart phone. When my kid pick it up, holding it while covering the camera, immediately flashes a warning on screen sign that says "Don't cover the camera". My kid jokes and says, "maybe it's true that these phone are use to spy on us & the general public as well.
@dhwang101
@dhwang101 Год назад
😂 LOL, no no. It's more likely that's a feature to help you not take pictures with your finger. It's just that the English is no so good. 🤣 Someone messed up the translation.
@fss1704
@fss1704 11 месяцев назад
Of fucking course that's true. The other dude commenting is obviously 50C army.
@dgdfsvfd
@dgdfsvfd 10 месяцев назад
@@dhwang101 You are so right!!!🤣By "Don't cover the camera", 🤣🤣they probably actually mean "don't stop us from spying on others"🤣🤣🤣
@tiram12
@tiram12 6 месяцев назад
​@fss1704 of course, check his name
@larryjenks31
@larryjenks31 2 года назад
This has probably been said many many times before, but I need to say it too. This is one of the most important, if not THE most important, channel on RU-vid covering China. I know I'm late to the party, but I'm so glad I found serpentza! Thank you so much!
@TruthPrevail777
@TruthPrevail777 8 месяцев назад
You found someone who hate China equally like you do. Lol. party time.🎉😂
@DanielClear2
@DanielClear2 3 года назад
CCP stands for Cut, Copy, Paste.
@awesomeboy4353
@awesomeboy4353 3 года назад
😂😂😂
@ibraali1787
@ibraali1787 3 года назад
😅😅😅 good one
@jayesh5131
@jayesh5131 3 года назад
Dude 💯😂😂
@Doochos
@Doochos 3 года назад
Nice. I'll have to use that one
@waffle2446
@waffle2446 3 года назад
Literally :)
@mikelabor8155
@mikelabor8155 3 года назад
"The fake carrot and the real stick". . . Excellent metaphor.
@kato2395
@kato2395 9 месяцев назад
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin good forces have invented or made” ― JRR Tolkien works pretty well to describe the Chinese manufacturers as a whole
@fainitesbarley2245
@fainitesbarley2245 9 месяцев назад
Interesting! There’s a whole book waiting to be written on precisely why. Why can’t authoritarian states that exercise a high degree of mind control create or invent?
@johnwclick
@johnwclick 9 месяцев назад
"Evil cannot create, it can only destroy, it turns inward upon itself, gnawing itself..." Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman: The Dragonlance Chronicles.
@AppliedCryogenics
@AppliedCryogenics 8 месяцев назад
@@johnwclick oh yeah? Well explain inkjet printer ink cartridges!
@Yellow_S436
@Yellow_S436 8 месяцев назад
Also China does not colonize and steal in other countries. Not in Iraq, Syria, Vanuelzela, or anywhere the western countries have raped. Sound good now?
@heavenlypot
@heavenlypot 2 месяца назад
Oh please
@rockoilcolonel
@rockoilcolonel Год назад
I myself was in the telecom industry 20 years ago. I had a friend working for Huawei, got a cushy job going world wide to form JVs with foreign telecom companies. The deal is Huawei would supply all hardwares free, the partner provide local support and market, they revenue share. These companies and their countries have grown so dependent on Huawei systems, we now know what their 5G systems are doing. So please stop buying Chinese brands to stop unconsciously helping the CCP. Buy and support Taiwanese, S.Korean, Japanese.
@Teutathis
@Teutathis 3 года назад
I studied with a chineese exchange student who lost his mind when the teacher told him that he got to play around with the equipment and do whatever he wanted as long as it was pertinent to his education. The guy programmed and reprogrammed the equipment like 4 times the first week and told me that he learnt more during that class than he had done during his entire bachelors in China.
@pvt.2426
@pvt.2426 6 месяцев назад
Wherever you were studying must have low standards for admission. Poor grammar and misspellings will limit your career.
@Teutathis
@Teutathis 6 месяцев назад
@@pvt.2426 It hasn't
@Max-yp1iw
@Max-yp1iw 6 месяцев назад
@@pvt.2426WTF
@dand337
@dand337 3 месяца назад
​@@Teutathisbrutal
@tabaghdissar
@tabaghdissar 3 года назад
As an X Huawei employee, I completely agree with you, the only thing they are good with is threats, when I resigned and told the truth about theft and illegal activities, they only cared about covering up, shame on them and on people that cover up for them.
@justlivemyway
@justlivemyway 3 года назад
@Paul Frei He is lying😁😁 He is not even chinese.
@KevinSterns
@KevinSterns 3 года назад
@@justlivemyway Proof please.
@justlivemyway
@justlivemyway 3 года назад
@@KevinSterns Why would he have free speech on youtube if he was chinese and against his government intentions.
@ucanhvungoc7133
@ucanhvungoc7133 2 года назад
@@justlivemyway vpn.
@gwho
@gwho 2 года назад
systemic to communism
@Sailingon
@Sailingon Год назад
There was a show on tv in the 70s about a business adviser. He told companies not to move manufacturing to china or they will lose control and everything they make will be copied. Then in the 80s he revisited some of these people and what he said came true. They had lost everything. So this isn't new it's been a long term thing.
@Davin-fh2nn
@Davin-fh2nn 9 месяцев назад
China was reverse engineering Soviet military equipment back in 50s.
@aizac91
@aizac91 2 года назад
I'm a Malaysian guy, and at this moment I owe the P20 Huawei phone. It has been four years since I bought that phone and I've sent it to the Huawei centre near my house over 4 times...Now, the phone, the back casing is detached from the phone, and when you see what type of materials they use to make sure the cover is intact with the phone; you'd think is this really the country that's raving nonstop on how they will be the next "superpower of the world"?? They literally use a double-sided thin tape, like seriously...and it gets better, the front screen of the phone; both sides and the top part has started to disassemble themselves. Yeah, China won't be taking over anything except by others' greed.
@MrBollocks10
@MrBollocks10 Год назад
You've had it 4 years. Apple stuff doesn't last that long. And if it does they deliberately slow it down to become redundant. It sounds like you do need a new phone. ....and you look at prices.
@jhNic
@jhNic Год назад
I mean you used it for 4 years, and then the two sided tape way might be the simplest and the cheapest way to fix it?
@aizac91
@aizac91 Год назад
@@jhNic I’m using an iPhone 13 now, my previous phone just stopped working after a while.
@Darkest_matter
@Darkest_matter 11 месяцев назад
For 4 years it's lasted long
@MrCalinonisor
@MrCalinonisor 11 месяцев назад
​@@MrBollocks10apple stuff last longer
@albertoroveda5135
@albertoroveda5135 3 года назад
I have a very nice German pocket watch (300€), one of my friends bought the EXACT SAME watch for 34€ from China (same appearance 100%) and he was bragging about how I spent my money not wisely and he was clever. it’s nice to see that after 10 years mine is still in good condition and keep accurate time (-4/+4) seconds a day, his pocket watch lost 30-40 seconds a day and the mainspring broke after 6 days
@Furiends
@Furiends 3 года назад
It's a nice ornament
@greensleeves6683
@greensleeves6683 3 года назад
and have u heard of a chinese made product going up in price 2nd hand? Rolex and some others 10 yrs later same price u paid or better
@davidmiletic6647
@davidmiletic6647 3 года назад
Hah funny thing abou the springs. I work here in central EU for a company that makes springs. We buy chinese spring making machines, and the chinese just cant make the springs as good as we do 😂 they always want to visit our factory for the knowhow. But still, do not underestimate China's product quality. If you pay the same ammount of money for a chinese product as you would pay for a EU product, you can be 95% sure that the chinese product will be of superior quality (unless you are buying the top of the line EU product). The chinese speed of development is monstrous and their newest factories are state of the art, all of them developed from foreign experts mainly from the EU.
@albertoroveda5135
@albertoroveda5135 3 года назад
@@davidmiletic6647 yes I agree but you can’t think that a 30€ Watch is good as a 300€ one, even though the aesthetics are the same, this is a copied product
@davidmiletic6647
@davidmiletic6647 3 года назад
@@albertoroveda5135 of course not. Had the chinese watch also been 300€, it might had been another story.
@fkarau
@fkarau 3 года назад
Ironically watching this video on RU-vid in Mexico all the advertising that occasionally interrupted the video was for Huawei products for sale in Mexico. One has to laugh.
@gmoney5947
@gmoney5947 3 года назад
CCP is everywhere
@johnwade1095
@johnwade1095 3 года назад
Watch the whole advert so they pay for it.
@fjack1588
@fjack1588 3 года назад
Hmm, living in Mexico too, but have not seen the adds. But, when I had to get a new cell phone, I decided not to buy Huawei, (and thus support the CCP) and got a Samsung instead.
@tsm4201979
@tsm4201979 3 года назад
Mexico doesn't like Huawei.
@fkarau
@fkarau 3 года назад
@@tsm4201979 Telmex, the Mexican intercom giant owned by Carlos Slim the richest man alive, uses exclusively Huawei routers. Usually there is no other option except Telmex as a provider here. If you have Telmex internet, you have a Huawei router in your home whether you like Huawei or not.
@The-truth-is-valuable.
@The-truth-is-valuable. 9 месяцев назад
Around 2006, I was working as an IT salesperson in the city of Bloemfontein (South Africa) A Japanese couple came into the shop to buy a CRT Monitor. The moment when the wife saw the brand (I think it was "Proline"?) was made in China, she was very upset and refused to buy it. She said they only had bad experience with Chinese products... which was unbelievable to me, back then, as we actually had very few problems with it. Knowing what I know now, about Chinese products, and via reliable reporting, from reliable sources like Winston, I am more and more disappointed in the International community, not holding China responsible by all means possible. Also: When are China going to pay for their blatant piracy... and what they did with the COVID virus?
@pastasoo
@pastasoo 9 месяцев назад
oh god when are western oil companies going to be held responsible for dumping crap in the ocean, when will America stop bombing countries for natural resources, what about this, what about that? Jesus christ dude, how about live in reality for a moment? The international community is smarter than you, they also don't recognize winston as a reliable source of information. There is a reason why he's only popular in the west and nobody in Africa and Asia gives a sht about this guy. If you'd knew anything then you'd know that Japan has some of the most advanced home electronics in the world, way superior than anything you can buy on the US/European market and they are all produced in China, if you have even traveled to Japan in recent years, you'd know although they don't love China, Japanese people on average do not look down on Chinese manufacturing. Your sheer level of ignorance shows based off your following to winston my little sleep
@tiram12
@tiram12 6 месяцев назад
Good comment. Exactly why do the rest of the countries keep their eyes closed for what China is doing? Neither has China apologized for the covid pandemic!!
@tpaulalex724
@tpaulalex724 Год назад
It's the same in Taiwan. One of my coworkers caught a student plagiarizing (one of many actually) and the parents came in and actually argued that their child should not be held accountable because the teacher did not tell them it was not OK. Another quiet student, who he tried to inspire to speak out more, went home and told her parents that he was harassing her. He is no longer allowed to ask her questions.
@peapopea
@peapopea Год назад
funny but fucked up
@Tscharny
@Tscharny 3 года назад
I worked for Huawei in their internal audit unit. That's when I learned about you and your channel and I have yet to find anything incorrect in what you preach. Keep it up!
@Tscharny
@Tscharny 3 года назад
@Joe Ç I answered and my answer is gone. Seems it was not acceptable ...
@roostersideburns3440
@roostersideburns3440 3 года назад
@@Tscharny pls answer again
@yoolendadong2770
@yoolendadong2770 3 года назад
@@Tscharny pla answer
@KirkLee1983
@KirkLee1983 3 года назад
@ Eat me
@KirkLee1983
@KirkLee1983 3 года назад
You still alive??
@rayraycthree5784
@rayraycthree5784 3 года назад
Remember back in public school history class how any Chinese at the time of the silk trade revealing the secret of the silk source would be executed? They certainly believed in protecting their own IP at that time.
@tsm4201979
@tsm4201979 3 года назад
and.. they still do! as long as it was copied and rechanged.
@perma_bann
@perma_bann 3 года назад
That ended 600 years ago.. did you know British people were publicly executed for committing minuscule crimes such as pickpocketing during that time period? This shit that the CCP is doing has nothing to do with Chinese culture or history, simply with human corruption.
@eventhorizon3117
@eventhorizon3117 3 года назад
There is nothing wrong to copy and innovate on your own. Problems with the west is that it has grown complacent and is slow to innovate. These companies have to compete with Huawei by copying theirs and reducing costs. They are not doing that and the market takes care of them.
@smugprout5698
@smugprout5698 3 года назад
Yeah, till some greek monk launched the first industrial espionage campaign and brought silk worm to constantinople ensuring the survival of the eastern roman empire and presence as the trade hub between the west and asia...
@aeonofstarrail1349
@aeonofstarrail1349 3 года назад
@@smugprout5698 Based Monk I say.
@hugomansavage
@hugomansavage 10 месяцев назад
I would not say, "It's ridiculous", I say it's shameless. All that face saving for what? They don't have a face!
@robroberts7659
@robroberts7659 2 года назад
Back in the early '90s I worked briefly at a mine locomotive builder, who built specialist small-scale electric locos designed to work along narrow mine tunnels. The UK coal industry was already moribund, but they'd found a new market and had previously sold some locos, complete, to China and were then selling just the electric traction motors, controlers etc. - the technical stuff. Suffice it to say, the orders dried up and Clayton Engineering now no longer exist. Standard for dealings with China, even then.
@moakley
@moakley 3 года назад
This is why Australia told Huawei to bugger off
@IvanOoze1990
@IvanOoze1990 3 года назад
The USA too.
@leglessinoz
@leglessinoz 3 года назад
The CCP isn't too pleased about Australia generally at the moment. The government cancelled the "belt and road" contract in Victoria. We pushed for the WHO to look into the origins of COVID-19. WE are telling them off about Taiwan and incursions into the South China Sea and further. Not happy, Jan.
@dogcarman
@dogcarman 3 года назад
@@leglessinoz When a dictatorship is unhappy with you, you’ve done *something* right. 👍
@dwillbecancelledsoon4086
@dwillbecancelledsoon4086 2 года назад
@@user_name_redacted Because we've been buying utter shit for the last 20+ years. Many of us can remember how much better products were when they were manufactured here.
@johosaffattjones9449
@johosaffattjones9449 2 года назад
Such a smart thing to do as I look at my 3G phone in Australia.
@SK-wg9sw
@SK-wg9sw 3 года назад
Shame on American companies still doing business with China.
@asianboi8070
@asianboi8070 3 года назад
Shame on you for thinking that everything is copied there. They have a billion people of course there are tons of original stuff there but they can't grow.
@420noscopesonlylol6
@420noscopesonlylol6 3 года назад
@@asianboi8070 That doesn't matter the CCP has proven they should never be trusted.
@liquidminds
@liquidminds 3 года назад
Shame? It's their own stupidity that harms them... They thought they could make more money producing cheap, now they make no money because their intellectual property got stolen... It's like giving your ID and Credit Card to a random guy on the streets and wondering why your identity gets stolen...
@krisli935
@krisli935 3 года назад
@@liquidminds but seriously it’s a mutual thing. Do you know Facebook released a video social media app which is almost identical to tiktok? And countries all over the world are following big companies in the US, do you know in Africa they have their own Amazon, etc?
@liquidminds
@liquidminds 3 года назад
@@krisli935 copying an idea and copy&paste the code word for word is 2 different things. Ideas themselves are not copyrighted. Designs and Production-Processes are.
@rishabbhattachaya6676
@rishabbhattachaya6676 Год назад
In India Huawei is effectively banned from participating in the 5G trials as they aren't on the list of trusted vendors.
@AFellowGentleman
@AFellowGentleman Год назад
So my dad worked at Ericsson in the past. According to him they also did this. When they were sent out to replace base station or network equipment for a customer they would offer to dispose of the old racks. They would then take that home to the lab in Stockholm and dissect everything. Same thing with hand held devices. They would buy nokia and samsung phones and reverse engineer them.
@Nyarlathotep_Flagg
@Nyarlathotep_Flagg 3 года назад
My father used to work for Sony Ericsson. A company that fell in large part due to having all their tech stolen by China. He has first hand experience seeing Hauwei using an exact copy cat of their software, running at the same time for the early Hauwei phones, on the same grid as they were running theirs back in the early 2000's. It was such a blatant breach of all copyright laws in the country, that he was shocked it stayed up for as long as it did before finally getting taken down(after which they ofc just made a flimsy excuse, altered a few little details, and came back years later. Having built upon the same tech by stealing tech from other companies, and layering it on top of it).
@solsouth
@solsouth 3 года назад
A copy cat is a person not an item.
@Nyarlathotep_Flagg
@Nyarlathotep_Flagg 3 года назад
@@solsouth Definition of copycat (Entry 1 of 2) 1 : one who imitates or adopts the behavior or practices of another 2 : an imitative act or product
@alajibril
@alajibril 3 года назад
@@solsouth actually it a term not a person or item
@pastasoo
@pastasoo 3 года назад
Why don't you follow actual tech channels and they'll explain the real large downfall of Sony Ericsson, they ran bad OS, had multiple failures because they couldn't read the market. In the first few years, they were trying to market their phones based on hardware when the iphone has changed the game to marketing software. They were still stuck in the era of phones having buttons by the time that the world wanted to move to touchscreens. Sony acquiring Ericsson was just so they can get into the cell phone market but with the scale of a large corporation like Sony stifling innovation at Ericsson, they just couldn't change fast enough to keep up with the market. End of story.
@Nyarlathotep_Flagg
@Nyarlathotep_Flagg 3 года назад
@@pastasoo Girl, not sure if you're a 50 cent or not. But I'll still give this response: My father worked there. I know all their failings way better than any 3rd party info you could scrape away from some website today(which I am su~uure is completely free from of any sort of bias or agenda). But they could live with most of the flaws they had, if all their best tech wasn't stolen. To this date, Huawei runs on their tech at the basic level. Especially where waypoints are concerned, which is what my father primarily worked with. The truth is, all brands have their strengths and weaknessess(or at least used to). I used some of their phones, and I frankly found them to be way better than their competitors in those days. Which is why the chinese free community used them to make the first unofficial smartphones(think something along the lines of Linux, except the tech was stolen, rather than freely provided). And yes, those phones were buggy asf(the hacked ones), but then again, they were not meant to do what they used them for. It was just something they realized they could do. Now I am not contradicting you on them having issues outside of that. Don't get me wrong. And I think that the chinese people did tons to improve upon their skeleton structure before Huawei stole it. But the stuff that they got right, was just outright carbon-copied, so to speak. And that's the whole issue. If all your bleeding edge tech is stolen, what use is your brand? They could no longer make up their losses from where they failed, with the things they were good at. And while the original collapse was probably destined to come either way, their restructuring would not have been doomed - If it wasn't for the CCP. In 2008 while working for a new related company, my father saw some of his better work carbon copied into some of our relay stations. And he basically forgave his former company for their flaws. It's impossible to try and right the ship, when somone keeps cutting off the rudder.
@stungunnotapplicable1953
@stungunnotapplicable1953 3 года назад
The Chinese tech industry is basically the embodiment of the "Can I copy your homework?" meme.
@stungunnotapplicable1953
@stungunnotapplicable1953 2 года назад
@@MonkeySpanner498 True, true.
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 2 года назад
@@MonkeySpanner498, and they have very little clue of what they've just copied.
@dj007j6
@dj007j6 2 года назад
Except the US tech companies are essentially owned by China. If they get copied, who cares.
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 2 года назад
@@dj007j6, I think that is a false lead. In case the US tech companies were essentially owned by the US Government it would help them a lot if everyone was just growling at China.
@rickagfoster
@rickagfoster 2 года назад
More like "hand over your homework now!". To build factories in China all corporate secrets must be shared. It's part of the deal.
@Natasha26
@Natasha26 5 месяцев назад
Huawei also operates by the Microsoft business model for businesses (Telcos): - Find out what they lack - Cheaply modify core infrastructure to cause incompatibilities with equipment from other vendors - Replace incompatible vendor equipment - All equipments are now Huawei, under maintenance contract and mandatory end of support / upgrade.
@freshtendrills5969
@freshtendrills5969 11 месяцев назад
There's a reason Huawei is banned in the US. it's an absolute insult to have your own products sold back to you at a steep discount.
@chriswales1952
@chriswales1952 3 года назад
I've had some interesting times at Trade shows. At a medical show in Shanghai, one company had brought over the latest high tech innovative medical device. This was freighted over but held up at customs for three days. When it arrived it didn't work and had obviously been opened up, as a couple of the.electrical connectors had not been reconnected. 15 months later they were exhibiting an exact copy at the worlds largest medical devices show in Düsseldorf. When we take our latest diagnostic devices to shows we just take and show the external case.
@davidhimmelsbach557
@davidhimmelsbach557 3 года назад
Buddy, you've been Shanghai'd. WHY did you even attend ?
@HoneyBadgerVideos
@HoneyBadgerVideos 2 года назад
Don't go to China for anything. It's a state run thievery ring.
@yoboy6319
@yoboy6319 2 года назад
@@davidhimmelsbach557 why did John Cena make an apology in Mandarin? Money money money money money
@yoboy6319
@yoboy6319 2 года назад
@@davidhimmelsbach557 same reason the NBA care more about Chinese markets, Hollywood as well
@gollumtheartisticnewt1028
@gollumtheartisticnewt1028 2 года назад
Chinese customs are famous for helping Chinese companies steal IP. I know of two examples.
@guguigugu
@guguigugu 3 года назад
"in the west we are forgiving of different cultures but china takes advantage of that" *remember this.* this is the primary principle informing china's foreign policy.
@fjack1588
@fjack1588 3 года назад
And combine this with the weakness of capitalist greed. As Lenin said, "The West will sell us the rope to hang them." Well, now that we have sold them (or permitted them to steal from us) our technology and productive capacity, we go one step further and buy it all back from them. This has seemed to work because the dollars have been fiat, just pieces of paper. But now the funny money printing is coming to its climactic and predictable end.
@ojbeez5260
@ojbeez5260 3 года назад
Yeah, but just try saying that in the West, you'll just get accused of Racism and Xenophobia. Me: "I prefer White coffee" UMC "You Racist its Milk Coffee or Coffee no milk - not Black / White coffee!! " And so idiotic overly PC multiculturalism wins the day.
@TheLonelyMoon
@TheLonelyMoon 2 года назад
huawei and xiaomi are the literal definition of "mom can we have iphone" "we have iphone at home" iphone at home:
@IAmPiernik
@IAmPiernik 2 года назад
I didn't know where Huawei originated so I unknowingly bought a phone from that company. When I did more research I felt horrible and switched to Google phone (still made in china but :( ) this video just confirmed all my fears that Huawei is just a horrible company
@TruthPrevail777
@TruthPrevail777 8 месяцев назад
Bro this dude is paid by western propaganda machine to spread lies and misinformation. Stop being a sheep which believe everything the empire says. What the Yank and Poms are doing is nothing but to drag down any developing nations to keep world domination. Don't catch the bandwagon hate train.
@PrimeInChina
@PrimeInChina 3 года назад
Yeah, why invent things when you could just steal it and re-brand it as your own? Seems like an easy thing to do.
@favesongslist
@favesongslist 3 года назад
Reverse engineering electronics chips is far from easy. Yet far easier to copy than trying to create some new design.
@hombreg1
@hombreg1 3 года назад
Oddly enough, that's sorta what capitalism gets you as well, though you're usually protected for some amount of time by copyright and intellectual property laws. Mimicry "is" the way to stay competitive. The issue here is disregarding copyright and intellectual property rights, while leveraging absurdly low production costs. The thing is, how could you enforce, say, American copyrights in a foreign country? Usually, you can get international courts involved, if it's a really big company like Cisco or Microsoft... The issue is, there's no good, neutral way of dealing with this sort of thing. Usually, you could use your economy or international influence as leverage, as the US often does, but how would one go about penalizing China for something like this? Can't embargo them, since they make most of your stuff. Can't impose tariffs on them, because that'll only hurt your own economy. It's a very, very complex issue.
@kayem3824
@kayem3824 3 года назад
Have you heard what brain drain is? It means importing all the clever people from all over the world and using them. One particular episode of it was when the German Nazi scientists were imported after WW2.
@novanoir8309
@novanoir8309 3 года назад
@Meng Mai At least fix your grammar first
@novanoir8309
@novanoir8309 3 года назад
@UC7D_QbSKx-g4I7lUTC72D_g your reply made no sense whatsoever. Didn't your superior on 50c army taught you English?
@simpetcla12
@simpetcla12 3 года назад
I did a project for Huawei once. In the meeting room they had red banners that said "powerful influencers". They were painful, desperate and scheming to deal with so we terminated the arrangement.
@moinyp
@moinyp Год назад
Thank you for sharing your valuable insight about China. Your videos are well-thought-out. Keep it up!
@nexult5439
@nexult5439 Год назад
This episode was absolutely one of the BEST , WELL TOLD TRUTHS about the deceitful business practices that Chinese companies use. Thank You Winston, again we learn so much from your channel ❤️
@romanamenalo1126
@romanamenalo1126 9 месяцев назад
Why don't we learn about what did the dear foreigners to China in the 19th or after the fall of the chinese empire or also during their long revolution and later during the relocation of foreign companies in China. Of course, the chinese population had jobs, but a lot of companies had a lot of profit. Obviously there will be problems in the coming years for both sides.
@jaiacosta6025
@jaiacosta6025 3 года назад
In the late 90's, Huawei would offer equipment to telcos that was an exact copy of Alcatel's optical transmission equipment, but at half the price. It always puzzled me how they could get away with such a blatant Intellectual Property theft.
@gordonlam2757
@gordonlam2757 3 года назад
you can't compete with cheaters, IP and Copyright laws don't apply to the Criminal Chinese Party.
@ITTechHead
@ITTechHead 3 года назад
Australia invented WiFi and the US stole that IP.
@thebranndoful
@thebranndoful 3 года назад
@@ITTechHead From wikipedia: "In 1971, ALOHAnet connected the Great Hawaiian Islands with a UHF wireless packet network. ALOHAnet and the ALOHA protocol were early forerunners to Ethernet, and later the IEEE 802.11 protocols, respectively." Australian researchers have the patent.
@MossadDid911
@MossadDid911 3 года назад
@@thebranndoful German science was stolen after WW2
@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh
@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh 3 года назад
@Sean Depends. Sometimes these crappy, copy companies got so rich that they can buy real companies. Look at Volvo.
@eeledahc
@eeledahc 3 года назад
@@ITTechHead I'm in the US and have AT&T fixed wireless. The techs that they use are satellite tv installers and they know enough but not enough, they rely on the app on their phones to troubleshoot. I had to move my antenna from one end of my roof to the other because trees were growing leaves and they told me that my outages were because of a hill and nothing that they could do. 3 different techs told me that. It's fine in the winter, bad in summer. No problems since I moved it 4 months ago and best signal i ever had. Yeah, a hill. But anyway all of the equipment besides router is Australian and I learned about it from Australian sites.
@JC-yy5nf
@JC-yy5nf 2 года назад
I can certainly your knowledge on the industry along with your career background. I am very deep in the mobile tech sector both as a hobby and career-wise. It's nice to see someone who knows what they're talking about, speaking on the matter. Thank you
@sandordugalin8951
@sandordugalin8951 2 года назад
**takes photos of cutting edge proprietary hardware internals at trade shows** "Hey, watcha doing there, kiddo?" "Sorry! Me no speakah English!"
@themurmeli88
@themurmeli88 3 года назад
Few years age Samsung developed the folding screen technology over 3 years and over 300 million in research costs. Then there was a huge scandal, where "some chinese" had bribed insider to steal the tech for 15 million. And would you look at that, Huawei suddenly has the same exact tech. So yeah, 15 million, and you get to skip all the years of R&D and 300million+ raw expenses and whatever labs etc. no wonder they are cheaper. I mean they could have done what AMD did, and out perform and develop Intel, and that way make all the money and prestige but no, no no no, that takes effort, let's just steal and be bunch of weasel scumbags.
@gupsphoo
@gupsphoo 3 года назад
Huawei could not have done what AMD did, they don't have the expertise to do the necessary research & development. They can only resort to theft.
@levant5378
@levant5378 3 года назад
Pay your employees better maybe
@caribou6172
@caribou6172 3 года назад
Huawei is truly criminal. Working for a competitor of Cisco gave me a first hand experience of Huawei moles. They identify people's weakness and exploit them. They rarely do the dirty jobs themselves. A Chinese boss who is a mole may use a H1B employee to do the dirty job, because they might need his help for a green card application. Indian employees are often used to do Chinese dirty jobs at the American companies.
@bigfoxki
@bigfoxki 3 года назад
Not that I am going to get one of those folding phone anytime soon, but if I am getting a new phone, I am not getting it from some copycat companies, I rather pay more to a company that developed it.
@cav1stlt922
@cav1stlt922 3 года назад
@themurmeli88... exactly the same with military technology!!! US military spend years and millions invested in good helmet protection for our soldiers and suddenly, the PLA soldiers were wearing their knock-offs of our famed helmets! They also copied variations of our camouflage patterns, skipping the years and efforts of researching and finding protective patterns! PLAA stealth fighter is a joke of a knock-off of ours, which they couldn't get right! What joke! Down with CCP soon, please.
@spookidrew4284
@spookidrew4284 3 года назад
I used to work for an industrial food processing oem in the ee department. One of the guys told me that they once got a warranty call on a machine that wasn't built by our company. Whatever Chinese company installed the machine copied the design right down to the warranty contact numbers lol. The design was stolen from one that was sold to China and I believe there is now a ban on selling to China there.
@MarkH10
@MarkH10 2 года назад
They'll just order from a close country and trans ship it
@dongpao3272
@dongpao3272 2 года назад
@Old Mick I cant disagree to that but then again local legislator drove healthy manufacture out. Local people lost their job and company lost their design.
@martinsaint9999
@martinsaint9999 11 месяцев назад
I tell you something: In 2013 I bought a Google Nexus 7 tablet. It was made very slow through an OS update only two years later. It became so slow I could not use it anymore. The result: I will never again buy any hardware from Google. Perhaps chinese firms steal but the American company Google damaged my tablet willingly. Planned obsolescence.
@tarkov666
@tarkov666 9 месяцев назад
Companies are finally finding out about that stick😂
@johnfarmer3506
@johnfarmer3506 3 года назад
When you steal IP you cut out almost all cost except for that of production.
@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh
@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh 3 года назад
That is why these cheap, lazy, faker companies love to copy companies like Apple.
@ivismartinez2542
@ivismartinez2542 3 года назад
When they were dismantling Nortel manufacturing and research headquarters in Ottawa my son's friends told me they found spaying devices all around the building suspected to be Chinese!
@paulmiller184
@paulmiller184 3 года назад
What spaying devices?
@paulmiller184
@paulmiller184 3 года назад
Oh you mean spying devices. In some U.S. cities the spying on us is near complete.
@MrHockeytemper
@MrHockeytemper 3 года назад
Yes my roomate was working for Nortel in Ottawa just before the crash - he told me the stories. The building is now owned by Canada National Defence, my Sister works there now. They found bugs all over the place. A shame really.
@NiceTriGuy
@NiceTriGuy 2 года назад
The CCP destruction of Nortel was one of the first real thefts of IP and hacking. It was so early that when the Nortel board was cautioned they didn’t even know what it was. Nortel was targeted by the CCP as the world leaders in switching technology and in less than a decade they infiltrated stole and undercut the company into bankruptcy. Embarrassed as a Canadian that our government still has no idea what happened…. They actually allowed public sentiment to blame it on mismanagement and never questioned where Huawei got their technology from. There have been a few journalistic pieces done, but it’s ancient history now and even Winston seems unaware of the fact that that is how huawei got its start.
@natesmodelsdoodles5403
@natesmodelsdoodles5403 2 года назад
@@NiceTriGuy This. My uncle used to work for Nortel, and after he found out what was going on he went crazy with the cyber security. Firewalls everywhere, tape on every mounted camera, any device that could use an ethernet connection only used the ethernet and no other system, and ho Chinese tech in the house. Before that incident nobody really understood how much of a big deal cybersecurity is. After it, anyone with any intelligence was completely against any kind of spying.
@dl8270
@dl8270 2 года назад
I hated the fact that she was held in her “castle “ and our guys are in a stinking jail cell. With access to nothing. While she pranced around her house. Sick...
@tapsulinka
@tapsulinka 9 месяцев назад
At 2004-2005 Nokia did check out workers emails and noticed industrial espionage, emails sent to Huawei. The persons who did sell Nokia's information to Huawei was not charged because Nokia did broke laws but checking out private emails. Because of this soon laws were changed in Finland.
@sujitkumarsingh3200
@sujitkumarsingh3200 3 года назад
From generations in India, "Chinese product" immediately relates to "cheap, poor quality, copy" product. But ironically, most people endup buying them. I think recent growth in techs and knowledge will solve that problem.
@Mika30041975
@Mika30041975 3 года назад
Same in vietnam.
@kittenman7667
@kittenman7667 3 года назад
It’s simple, not everyone can afford Apple or Samsung.
@utkarshg.bharti9714
@utkarshg.bharti9714 3 года назад
Until the Indian government drastically reforms taxes for tech companies and promotes startup accelerators collaborating with Samsung, LG etc. these companies will never MAKE IN INDIA. Thankfully, things are improving with Samsung recently coming into UP.
@sujitkumarsingh3200
@sujitkumarsingh3200 3 года назад
@@utkarshg.bharti9714 I also think that huge improvements will happen due to inhouse companies, existing and new to come. People of India are gaining knowledge very fast and they are already hard working.
@sujitkumarsingh3200
@sujitkumarsingh3200 3 года назад
@Scyth well, everyone(except Jynees) know what a shit hole Jyna is. Thus, I would suggest you to keep your imaginary thoughts to yourself because, world knows reality.
@Scourgewor
@Scourgewor 3 года назад
The place where I work sold China a large communication array (I won't divulge what it was exactly). They came to look at it and there was one off the shelf part which had a serial number on it. They walked up and took a photo of it right in front of us. Years later we were looking at a supplier for a specific part that was developed for that array. We found no less then 27 suppliers for that part in China. There is only one reason why someone would make that part.
@sangazo
@sangazo 3 года назад
if you believe that by clicking some photos and they’re able to make exact product then they’re genius. you should try to make a fighter jet or coronavirus vaccine as you can take really close photos 😆😆😆
@shable1436
@shable1436 3 года назад
Reverse engineering is genius but there are many methods to do it besides taking pics
@Scourgewor
@Scourgewor 3 года назад
@@shable1436 I wouldn't say it was genius. The original design is the genius. Any idiot can pull something apart and see how it's made. But I'll give the Chinese one thing and that is they're very good at doing it and their manufacturing quality is at times exceeding what they're copying.
@Scourgewor
@Scourgewor 3 года назад
I never said they copy it by taking photos - they copied it by buying the product and pulling it apart. The photos were to identify which off the shelf parts from other companies they would have to order. They could have waited to get the product and then worked that out but when the opportunity arises you take photos. That is if you have no morals at all...
@passwordpassword9227
@passwordpassword9227 3 года назад
@@sangazo Ever hear of reverse engineering dummy?
@jenniferwong4530
@jenniferwong4530 6 месяцев назад
I lived near Ottawa in Canada for many years, where Nortel’s head office and manufacturing facility was located. I knew many people who lost their jobs when it folded. It was so devastating. My friend and her husband lost their home and their pensions over it. China does not care one bit who it hurts and literally steal anything not nailed down. On a side note, when I was in university back before computers were a thing, the Chinese students would rush to the library and take out all the books on a specific topic and hoard them amongst themselves so nobody else could use them for assignments and papers. Pissed me right off.
@blxtothis
@blxtothis 2 года назад
My dear old Pop (now sadly no longer with us but born in 1911) told me a story when I was a kid that in the 1920s the Russians took a Rolls Royce apart and back engineered their own version which looked identical. It didn’t run though., He said “they couldn’t work out how the spark plugs were made so made them solid with no electric parity”. Probably an urban myth but it used to please me.
@bradcavanagh3092
@bradcavanagh3092 3 года назад
I wasn't aware of the Nortel copying, but I definitely remember the Cisco rip-off. People who think that "cyber espionage" by the Chinese is a recent phenomena haven't been paying attention for 20 years.
@michaelbrownlee9497
@michaelbrownlee9497 3 года назад
Ah, hang on one second, it was Nixon with the salt treaty, Chretien with his Canadian millionaires scouting out cheap manufacturing, Then there was the tool and die Magna that completely destroyed European tool and die in north America. Wall mart. It was official govt approved investment to completely and utterly destroy western economy. The tax collectors were having parties when a company was forced out of business. The money was over flowing so nobody cared. I don't think anyone was evil about it, just greed.
@gdemorest7942
@gdemorest7942 3 года назад
I worked for Nortel. We had Huawei spies working side-by-side with us!
@michaelbrownlee9497
@michaelbrownlee9497 3 года назад
@@gdemorest7942 oh yeah for sure no doubt. Headhunting was a big money adventure back then.
@richardamullens
@richardamullens 3 года назад
Edward Snowden revealed that the USA took Cisco routers bound for China and inserted backdoors so that the USA could spy on China. Read The Hardware Hacker if you want to understand the Chinese attitude to IP and don't forget that Delft Pottery was stolen from the Chinese.
@wakannnai1
@wakannnai1 3 года назад
My uncle used to work for Nortel. They were forced to lay off all of their staff post Huawei theft because they couldn't afford to stay in business any longer. Huawei theft completely ruined the company.
@seleniaramos6873
@seleniaramos6873 3 года назад
I lived in China for 7 years you tell it like it is and fluently with clarity.
@bobiq
@bobiq Год назад
A friend of mine used to work in the Polish Embassy in Beijing. There was a set of beautiful wooden chairs. One of the chairs had a knot in one of the legs, which one day fell out leaving a ugly hole. They asked one Chinese carpenter to make an exact copy of the chair to replace it. A week later, the guy brought the chair he had made. It looked as beautiful as the original one, and it even had on hole in exactly the same place as the original chair....
@fss1704
@fss1704 11 месяцев назад
lol
@punchabunchabuttons
@punchabunchabuttons 2 года назад
Hey @serpentza, love the videos but you have an error in it. 10:34 you mention "these two photos look alike" in that twitter post. The one on the left has the Huawei name written on the windows and the one on the right is the same you mentioned belonging to Huawei earlier at 10:24.
@bishyaler
@bishyaler 3 года назад
This is one thing I've learned about Chinese companies: They rarely ever innovate, they can copy and adapt to their needs real well, but never innovate.
@citylinkproject9901
@citylinkproject9901 3 года назад
and that is bad for the consumer
@xucg
@xucg 2 года назад
if a western company does somethin new, it is innovation in your eyes. if a chinese company does the same, it can only be classified as "adapt to their needs real well". The double standard without end.
@angeloj3139
@angeloj3139 2 года назад
They never spend time to research anything because everything they made is actually a copy of Western counterpart but with aggressive components to capture the market. Even in India, we are trying to build a whole new architecture for Cpu, Soc technology despite being poor, we're are trying our best for innovation. But Chinese just copies......and adds better components...
@andriyshapovalov8886
@andriyshapovalov8886 2 года назад
@@citylinkproject9901 its anything but bad for the consumer. Consumer gets cheaper product.
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 2 года назад
@@andriyshapovalov8886, and nobody gets any money to research and develop the next product.
@ywgmb35
@ywgmb35 3 года назад
When Meng Wanzhou was arrested in Vancouver, they found many kinds of Apple products in her luggage, but not ONE Huawei product, despite her father being the founder of the company, and her being CFO of it lol😂
@e-curb
@e-curb 3 года назад
She had two Apple I-phones to use.
@casualsuede
@casualsuede 2 года назад
@@kleist5083 that why apple rarely use celebrity endorsements, why bother since they are all using one?
@BILLEON2005
@BILLEON2005 2 года назад
iPhones are more secure
@OmegaGamer04
@OmegaGamer04 Год назад
@@BILLEON2005 not really. Just less likely for dumb users to get out of the walled garden
@BILLEON2005
@BILLEON2005 Год назад
@@OmegaGamer04 Ok dummy…
@dPten
@dPten 3 месяца назад
In 2022, I sent a manuscript for publication in an European country based journal. They wasted two months of my time to simply reject the paper. They said my work wasn’t novel enough. Until then there weren’t many manuscripts published which produced data on as many samples as I did. Fine. I moved on and submitted it elsewhere. More than a year later I came to know about a paper by a Chinese group that was published in that same journal on the very same topic of mine, showing data regarding same samples as I reported. Coincidence? Then when I looked at their paper I realized that there are somethings that weren’t properly explained as to how they came to that particular conclusion. Guess what the author replied upon asking about it? They said that they will explain that particular thing in an upcoming unpublished work 😂. That is how they do science and ‘somehow magically’ their works get published within months while those of others are tossed around for months just to get rejected. By the way, that paper of mine is still being tossed around in the another journal that I submitted. I just wonder how power of money can influence academics and science these days. Appreciate your work sir. You are doing a very genuine work. Best wishes!
@jessicaandtrains7768
@jessicaandtrains7768 8 месяцев назад
Yes i did an internship with 3com in 2003. I think they did a partnership with them that year. I heard there was a big issue when all of their installed routers would reply back that they were cisco devices. Copied the competitor a bit too well. Wonder how that happened 🤔
@reybhk
@reybhk 3 года назад
Just a suggestion, Serpentza. It would great if you could add Chinese subtitles to your channel so that other non- English speaking audiences could understand your message and be well informed of your experiences in China. Let alone mainlanders with vpn connection who wants to follow you so that they can be enlightened to fight for their rights for their future generations.
@dama3979
@dama3979 Год назад
He doesn’t care about the people they’re lost they won’t accept it look at North Korea this is where China is going
@theloniousm4337
@theloniousm4337 Год назад
Yeah, that way we could have a Chinese guy called "Serpentza mate" doing videos pumping Chinese culture.
@rvh1702
@rvh1702 Год назад
Or maybe those 'followers' you're talking abould, should learn something for a change and understand English. Or is that too much to ask from the spying Chinese Government?
@Andman8210
@Andman8210 3 года назад
I’m avoiding all Chinese brands at all costs
@stiletas
@stiletas 2 года назад
Can't thank you enough for your hard work and this info you are giving to us.
@Lee-gc6nd
@Lee-gc6nd 9 месяцев назад
I once asked Chinese Students "what do you think?" in a classroom setting. Their response was "We don't know teacher, what do you want us to think."
@ericmcrae7758
@ericmcrae7758 3 года назад
This has been going on for years. I used to visit a UK company that made power supplies which were sold by Radio Spares they souced some componets from China and within a year they stole the IP and the UK company went pop in 2003.
@Mmmm_tea
@Mmmm_tea 3 года назад
"they made him delete pictures" its not hard to undelete stuff, they should have confiscated his phone
@krightonzilon9140
@krightonzilon9140 2 года назад
Yeah, sometimes people are too liberal.
@MegaRazorback
@MegaRazorback 10 месяцев назад
To be fair to China us westerners kind of enabled this behavior when we first started using their labor to make things on the cheap...Yes China could output a LOT back then but at the same time they were using western designs that the west had made and allowed them to build for the western market and as a result there was little if any incentive for Chinese R&D to take place locally and thus they opted for the "easier' route when it came to IP stuff, make the contracts in such a way that meant there was no other course than to practically hand over everything related to that IP if they wanted it made in China or steal it outright if the contract was turned down.
@alexredhair
@alexredhair 2 года назад
used to work there in Reading UK, and completely agree with your comments and narrative. glad you making these videos
@cliveramsbotty6077
@cliveramsbotty6077 3 года назад
- 'stop stealing technology' - 'no' - 'okay carry on' it's that easy.
@jasons408
@jasons408 3 года назад
makes me think of before WW2 when European leaders tried to sanction Hitler for breaking the treaty...
@archockencanto1645
@archockencanto1645 3 года назад
@@jasons408 At-least Germany had better tech than the West.
@Tech-Priest
@Tech-Priest 3 года назад
@@archockencanto1645 Egh, arguable.
@user-pakshibhithi10
@user-pakshibhithi10 3 года назад
@@Tech-Priest No, they were really better in most aspects
@lohphat
@lohphat 3 года назад
I was pressured at a former employer to use Huawei networking products for a new corporate campus in Palo Alto, CA. I refused and used Juniper and Arista instead. I never regretted that decision.
@MrEarbuckets
@MrEarbuckets 6 месяцев назад
This is prob the best video title I have ever seen.
@chainsov
@chainsov Год назад
Does someone know if they copied The P30 pro periscope zoom lens from some other phone or actually created something new?
@KingKhan-vo9og
@KingKhan-vo9og 3 года назад
Huawei laptops should modify their keyboards. Remove all the buttons and leave it as Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V. Simple.
@tsm4201979
@tsm4201979 3 года назад
ALT+shift+ESC
@TonyToniTone05
@TonyToniTone05 3 года назад
LoL
@nia6849
@nia6849 3 года назад
Press Ctrl+Alt+Del now everyone.
@josephmusembi4391
@josephmusembi4391 3 года назад
Ha ha ha
@coldsalad6686
@coldsalad6686 3 года назад
This is why I try to buy from makers who actually made the product. I don't have too much money but I think it's still worth it to pay the extra money for the original product and help the company build even better things in the future.
@gracefulcubix4730
@gracefulcubix4730 3 года назад
4
@bad_rebbel_8841
@bad_rebbel_8841 2 года назад
@@gracefulcubix4730 5
@conc8888
@conc8888 2 года назад
Save your money. No multi million dollar company deserves your loyalty. Just get the products that actually suit you.
@fbyi2940
@fbyi2940 2 года назад
@@conc8888 which is none.
@Nothing-yo5uo
@Nothing-yo5uo Год назад
What a BS !! I think you never use DJI drones they are from china and Tesla is now want to use BYD battery tech. It doesn't who rules the china but China will reclaim it's ancient glory.
@jesus2621
@jesus2621 11 месяцев назад
having worked at huawei and ericsson i can say that even if huawei copied nokia in some equipments, huawei is more advanced in terms of customization and user interface, thats why nokia failed to keep on the road and ericsson also, the only think that stoped huawei to become a leader in telecomunication industry was united states ban on huawei and the presure on other countries in europe to stop using huawei equipments, otherwise nokia and ericsson where condemned to doom
@FinnbogiRagnarRagnarsson
@FinnbogiRagnarRagnarsson 10 месяцев назад
These stories are probaly all true. The Nortel case in particular. But having followed the Huawei scandal closely, the timing stands out. Having being a copycat for couple of decades, Huawei became innovative in two major areas. They were first to market mobiles with advanced photo and ai technology, beat Google to it and Apple couldn't follow until several years later. They were at the top of the flagship Phone market. They have competive 5G technology that doesn't seem to copied, for phones and transmission towers. That's the actual reason they were at last hit with sanctions.
@Analoguejunk
@Analoguejunk 9 месяцев назад
just deleting isn't enough, you can recover 'deleted photo's if you don't write anything over the 'empty' memorycard
@pyrointeam
@pyrointeam 3 года назад
English: Copyright German: Urheberrecht Chinese: Copy right away
@daviddurango840
@daviddurango840 3 года назад
XP LOL
@lordmashie
@lordmashie 3 года назад
Right to copy
@coffeemakerbottomcracked
@coffeemakerbottomcracked 3 года назад
I'd imagine chinese product manual saying "copy right away"
@kabulpaws3386
@kabulpaws3386 3 года назад
Just look at huawei r&d by CNBC they cant copy something that's not even been invented yet that's confusing
@pyrointeam
@pyrointeam 3 года назад
@@jewelhaddad7340 please learn the meaning of the word racist
@billdberger7407
@billdberger7407 3 года назад
Credit for talking about the Belt and Road Initiative that takes some bravery.
@healthbeauty7853
@healthbeauty7853 10 дней назад
They invented the first usb dial-up sim card dongles.
@duventurac
@duventurac Месяц назад
120.000 that is the number of patents of Huawei
@piercer4882
@piercer4882 3 года назад
The story of the guy stealing info at a trade show just happened to my company last year. A competitor booth showed up early and disassembled our products and took detailed kotes and photos to be able to copy it. The trade show security ended up seizing all of their electronics but I'm sure everything was already sent over seas
@edmundkim007
@edmundkim007 3 года назад
I have a friend who works for western digital. He’s talked about huge scandals where huawei just straight up stole intellectual property.
@ITTechHead
@ITTechHead 3 года назад
Australia invented WiFi and the US companies stole that IP. Apple manufacturers NOTHING. Apple have stolen IP from Samsung & many other companies. Apple now copies idea's from Android other mobile makers
@doobas2171
@doobas2171 3 года назад
@@ITTechHead stop the cap
@HoangTran-wu6se
@HoangTran-wu6se 2 года назад
@@ITTechHead you DO know that Apple created the first-ever smart phone right? Before them, everyone was using Nokia stuffs.
@OmegaGamer04
@OmegaGamer04 Год назад
@@HoangTran-wu6se I think IBM was a bit earlier (1994 I think). Still the thing wasn't what I would call "portable". Apple was the first to get major appeal
@BasicallyBreezy
@BasicallyBreezy 2 месяца назад
You’re my favorite teacher I’ve ever had ❤
@ShortAnalyst
@ShortAnalyst 11 месяцев назад
I'd like to agree, but data shows that Huawei has more US patents approved than Apple
@daviddiaz529
@daviddiaz529 3 года назад
China's McDonald's is called MacDowell's. Instead of the "Golden Arches" they have the "Golden Archs".
@travisgoodrich4290
@travisgoodrich4290 3 года назад
Instead of KFC they have KFP. "P" standing for paltry
@percival23
@percival23 3 года назад
Haha ... I think the "Coming to America" joke was missed by some of you guys. Well done David.
@daviddiaz529
@daviddiaz529 3 года назад
@@percival23 ah thank you suh.
@tsm4201979
@tsm4201979 3 года назад
wtf dude bahwahah you totally stole it from "Coming to America" good movie for a slow night
@tsm4201979
@tsm4201979 3 года назад
Mcdonald's in Chinese "Mai dao Lao" or depending really on "Local" dialect "Mai Deng Lao" Mai Dao Nao"
@cpuuk
@cpuuk 3 года назад
Remember, China doesn't see a problem with copying, it's seen as a good thing if you can pull a fast one, it's culturally indoctrinated into the populace.
@weishi9804
@weishi9804 3 года назад
The ancient Chinese inventors were not profit origin, sometime they even force people to copy to rise production.
@QMAN902
@QMAN902 2 года назад
That camera looks more like a Hasselblad than a Canon 5D.
@family0039
@family0039 2 года назад
👍Thanks for always being spot on!
@evan5935
@evan5935 3 года назад
We need to get industry back in our own countries so we can enrich ourselves, our communities, and stop the reliance on cheap foreign goods that ends up sucking our wealth away 🤷‍♂️
@The_Unobtainium
@The_Unobtainium 10 месяцев назад
Hey, nobody forced your companies to go and move production to china (and destroying local economical status. Millions of families were ruined because of outsourcing. That time those companies didn't care about their own employees and their families!). The only reason was they are greedy as hell. It's soley greedy corporations fault so no reason to fell sorry for buying cheaper products.
@ronaldellis4662
@ronaldellis4662 9 месяцев назад
Spot on but the problem lays with greedy companies that are in business only for the quick buck and don't give a damn about their country and people 😡
@user-nr5rc3sw3r
@user-nr5rc3sw3r 9 месяцев назад
That was the plan to kill developed countries and take gold back was invested in 191x
@yegfreethinker
@yegfreethinker 3 года назад
I found especially vexing as a Canadian how they helped drive a stake through the heart of Nortel. Innovative speeds on 4G networks for example were made possible by Nortel. For Tech nerds in Canada that was like ripping out our heart. Nortel is a huge huge source of pride for me. If one looks at any sitcom, movie or whatever in the 90s you will see a Nortel phone in many scenes.
@exponentmantissa5598
@exponentmantissa5598 2 года назад
Did you know that near the end of Nortel's days the Chinese had hacked an account belonging to en executive who demanded wide access to Nortel's servers.. Through this account the Chinese hoovered up everything. I often wonder if the exec was just stupid or was he bought off? There is apparently a book out on what went on at Nortel.
@adrianc6534
@adrianc6534 2 года назад
my dad worked for nortel for like 30 years. he ran several of their factories in china. what a shit company, he left a few years before they went under.
@ticler
@ticler 2 года назад
@@exponentmantissa5598 There were Chinese Canadian citizen staff members who actively participated in this theft. The 'hack' news was just spread for political correctness.
@MoejiiOsmanTV
@MoejiiOsmanTV 2 года назад
See the thing is, American and western Companies have learned from the blatant theft and copyright infringement of what happened to Cisco, Apple and nortel so now when they have things built in China they only build shells of items but not the actual technology and finish building the final product back home in the west, you live and you learn. During the ukrain WR now many Russian tanks and now an su fighter jet have finally been shot down and Ukraine has given the technology over to the US and UK and now we know how capable the Russian military is in there arsenal which in turn tells us what China has in there arsenal and it shows there 30-40yrs behind military wise. Copying and not doing R&D will only get you so far because even if you steal ideas and rengineer them you have a shitty knockoff and technology moves so fast that new tech is replacing old tech Constantly and China can't keep up because the western companies have smartened up when dealing with China so the only choice they have is spies stealing tech in there own companies and turning it over to them or hacking companies... But again corruption and zero beauracracy process in China makes it so that even if you have slave labor to build tech u stole the final product will be an obvious knockoff and nobody will but it ie huwaei phones etc.. There end game will always crumble because of the high level corruption in there own government system will never let them build products the masses will buy, China hates that the iPhone is the most popular phone and even Samsung but that's the point you can't force people to not buy obviously superior products at the end of the day .
@TBonerton
@TBonerton Год назад
​@@exponentmantissa5598 they hacked his email so it was probably the Chinese demanding the access using the clueless executive's account.
@icns01
@icns01 2 месяца назад
Classic Serpentza! Another great educational episode, so much good intel. I also didnt know Serpentza had an IT background, but it became obvious even before he explicitly stated so. I myself love and admire the things that China has achieved, a lot of it is truly inspirational, but the grim reality behind some of their technical prowess is really sobering. A lot of food for thought here....
@enp82003
@enp82003 8 месяцев назад
Famiclone user! ❤ dendy is nostalgic
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