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Did Jesus' first followers think he was God? With Dr. James Tabor (part 2) 

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@kxbsoabworhtofidkslsheor
@kxbsoabworhtofidkslsheor Год назад
Can’t believe I am this early, I love your stuff Paul!! I’ve been watching for about a year now, and I reverted to Islam a few months ago!! You have been a massive influence and inspiration, thank you so much
@nullity-
@nullity- Год назад
May Allah fill your journey with happiness and grant you Jannat Al Firdaus. Ameen 🤲
@BloggingTheology
@BloggingTheology Год назад
Alhamdulillah!
@AlJazeera_indonesia
@AlJazeera_indonesia Год назад
​@@holdingholder8 *John 1:1* Said the Word it is Allah (the divine) *John 1:14* It is said that the Word became flesh (Jesus) This means that the divine/god becomes a fetus in the stomach the human (Maria) was then born and Nurtured by humans (maria) *God can be cared for, and raised with humans* 😆 *God can have foster parents* *?* 🤣 *God has childhood* 😱 Try to imagine when baby Jesus was crying okay okay being carried while rocking and swinging maria said oh my dear child *the word declares* I and my father are one (John 10:30) I am the way, the truth and the life (John 14:6) Whoever has seen Me has seen the Father (John 14:9) *god=a baby* *The one being lulled to sleep is a human* Imagine when Jesus was still a baby, he was still crawling, he couldn't defecate, he couldn't wash himself her ass is still messy and hasn't been spanked by Maria *your word is right, because indeed* *I am the Teacher and LORD* *(John 13:13)* *He who has seen Me* *has seen the Father (John 14:9)* 😂🤣😂
@nullity-
@nullity- Год назад
@@holdingholder8 “bad choice”? I advice you to read the Qur’an, you won’t say the same thing again.
@SalehAbdurRaheem
@SalehAbdurRaheem Год назад
What a great and totally convincing argument based in reason...@@holdingholder8
@AKIB1991LASKAR
@AKIB1991LASKAR Год назад
I don't know if Dr Tabor knows it, he is just proving Quran right and affirming the Miraculous teachings of Prophet Muhammad PBUH about Jesus PBUH...!!! Mashallah this is so informative and beautiful.....Brother Paul your works are amazing....keep up the good work...may Allah bless you both...👍👍
@MsJfraser
@MsJfraser Год назад
If Mr. Williams felt Mr. Tabor was a threat to Islam, the latter would not be invited. The Quran is more about Muhammad than Jesus and hence the reason why little is said about his teachings which would have conflicted with Muhammad's way of doing things.
@AKIB1991LASKAR
@AKIB1991LASKAR Год назад
@@MsJfraser Have you read the Quran.....??? There is two whole chapter in the Quran called sura Al Imran and Surah Maryam both are about Jesus PBUH and Mary PBUH and John the Baptist PBUH and Zachariah PBUH..!! So please don't assume something what you don't know......believing in Jesus PBUH and all other previous prophet is the central tenets of Islam.....actually Muhammad PBUH taught every Muslim to beleive in Jesus PBUH but first he removed all the forgeries of so called Christian scribes and taught us about the real historical Jesus Christ and his teachings which is same as Muhammad PBUH .....Muhammad PBUH even left a space besides his grave for Jesus PBUHs burial when he will die after his second coming...!! the message was all along was simple beleive in one God and worship him without associating any partner( Christians do the exact opposite the trinity is just another form of associating partner with God,actually Christians should be called paulian because they follow the work of Paul not the Christ).....Dr Tabors scholarly works just proves that if you remove the forgeries of later scribes and forgeries of Paul then the core message is exactly same as Islam.....beleive in one God and Give charity simple...!! There is no one who is threat to Islam,those who speaks against Islam doesn't have any biblical understanding like Dr Tabor they never ever produce any proof...just shows forgeries of scribes to prove their point....which can be easily dismantled...
@harharharharharharharharha240
@@AKIB1991LASKARgreat comment!
@Logia1978
@Logia1978 Год назад
@@MsJfraser The problem is that, this is the *consensus* in scholarship!!! And wrong, there is more about Jesus and Moses in the quran than Muhammad.
@MsJfraser
@MsJfraser Год назад
@@Logia1978 It was scholarship in 1966 that announced "God is dead".
@Arsim93
@Arsim93 Год назад
This should be in TV all day long. This is more important than anythinh else, since our future depends on that topic. Thank you for your effort❤
@BloggingTheology
@BloggingTheology Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@loayali6926
@loayali6926 Год назад
Out of all garbage on RU-vid, this is a sort of fresh air. Thank you.
@harharharharharharharharha240
This channel is very underrated! ❤
@redihaderi8188
@redihaderi8188 Год назад
The great thing about this channel is the academic level! Thanks again Paul for an excellent show.
@BloggingTheology
@BloggingTheology Год назад
Glad you enjoy it!
@sacredrider
@sacredrider Год назад
A great lecture by Dr. James Tabor. Thank you very much Mr. Paul for giving us the opportunity to listen to such good lectures
@BROLY77212
@BROLY77212 Год назад
Al HamduliLlah ! I think we will never realize how much we are blessed from Allah to be Muslims ! We take the Quran for granted when it’s the preserved, unchanged, litteral, and obviously historically accurate Word of God… The more I watch this video the more I realize how crystal clear the message has remained in the Quran and through all the messengers. May Allah guide us and strengthen us on His religion.
@siglindekraus5738
@siglindekraus5738 Год назад
Ever heard about judgement. God do only accept people without sins or they will go to hell. Doing good works is not enough they have to be clean.😢
@BROLY77212
@BROLY77212 Год назад
@@siglindekraus5738 This is not true my friend. God is the Most Merciful. Actually, nobody is sinless, and nobody will enter paradise by their deeds, but only by the Mercy of Allah. Nevertheless, we need to obey God’s commandments and apply them to gain his Mercy. Here are two beautiful hadiths of the prophet Muhammad ﷺ about this subject. Anas reported God’s messenger as saying, "All the sons of Adam are sinners, but the best of sinners are those who are given to repentance." Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Follow the right course, be devoted, and give glad tidings. Verily, none of you will enter Paradise by his deeds alone.” They said, “Not even you, O Messenger of Allah?” The Prophet said, “Not even me, unless Allah grants me His mercy. Know that the most beloved deed to Allah is that which is done regularly, even if it is small.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6467, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2818
@BROLY77212
@BROLY77212 Год назад
God does whatever He wants, he doesn’t need any payment. If He loves His servant He will forgive him as He wish
@siglindekraus5738
@siglindekraus5738 Год назад
@@BROLY77212 He will forgive him he wants. No Mister God does make no difference but SATAN. You are going to hell
@BROLY77212
@BROLY77212 Год назад
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 Allah did not put me out of the garden, for the simple reason that I never was there in the first place. Adam is « just » our ancestor and the first man and prophet, his deeds are HIS deeds only, not yours and mine
@extraordinary.verses
@extraordinary.verses Год назад
Dr James explanation of mark 10.17 (Paul's favorite verse in all of bible) really is important. Someone bowed on his knees and asked Jesus I want to get eternal life. Did Jesus reply you have to believe God is Jesus of Nazareth. No. Jesus replied: “....god alone is good...and keep the commandments”. Notice the word ‘alone’. Pure monotheism.
@silvercat3243
@silvercat3243 Год назад
I think the problem start when people start saying that Jesus is God, then it means Jesus alone is sufficient. But back when I was still a Christian my mindset would be: "ok I don't know the deal between those three, but the practice should be as what is taught by Jesus"... but then I see Jesus taught me to worship God... Then I was like "if Jesus is God himself then why didn't he make clear of this... Regarding the wisdom you could use parables, but regarding the law you should clearly say I am the God (in fact yes Jesus did such regarding the father)"
@waleed8530
@waleed8530 Год назад
@@silvercat3243 you can notice the Roman influence on Christianity when it comes to that. very hybrid doctrine.
@sutil5078
@sutil5078 Год назад
@silvercat3243 That is very smart, yet simple way of progressively finding the truth.. May Allah grant you more LIGHT in your words, heart, and actions.. I really feel sorry for Christians.. but also I know that God promises guidance to anyone who search for him sincerely.. so I am sure many sincere christian will be guided, and some may be tested on that day.. because majority of them knew nothing about correct Islam message. Now that lack of knoweldge is getting rarer and rare and the door may close or becomes smaller.. cheep books has been available in the last 100 years, internet, etc.. God in hadith says if you come to me by a length of a hand I will come to you by double the distance (arm) etc... you know the hadith.. Thank you for offering us insight on how a christian think and rationalize these passages ... I always wonder a lot about them and feel empathy toward them. Could you tell me the major point , 2 or 3 that pushed you to research Islam? (not only accept it, but got you curious to study it and ultimately made you accept the Islamic message ).. if you don't mind, it may help others who were at that stage of searching and read this, and or for dawah purpose. thank you, I enjoyed your post!! May Allah bless you amin
@jimjohnson9622
@jimjohnson9622 Год назад
How come you left out verse 21? Jesus connects following him in order to get to heaven completely debunking what Dr Tabor was rambling on about. I noticed Muslims and Atheists love to choose what they read and ignore huge parts of what Jesus said Mark 10:21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
@sutil5078
@sutil5078 Год назад
Dear Jim, but Mark: but Mark 10:21 still did not mention what the Church teach its followers " believe in my blood, or my sacrifice or my resurrection..." it is all about doing good work and by the mercy of God (in Islam) or by "God's grace" in the original teaching of Jesus we can be saved. Think of the Lord's prayer , the condition for forgiveness, is forgive us as we forgive others! That prayer agree with Islamic creed.. and yet it did not mention the redeeming blood, the sacrifice and resurrection.. I I am just exchanging thought here, and respect your faith etc.. May God guide you and me and all. Amin
@henriquesombiga4338
@henriquesombiga4338 Год назад
Tabor is a gentleman
@jenna-tn4wj
@jenna-tn4wj Год назад
!!!! ، Ma Shaa Allah ! , Thank you Sir and thank you doctor for your true and good hard work ~ ☝🏻🤲🏻
@snakejuce
@snakejuce Год назад
We need to HAVE THE TRINITY. Dr's: Ali Ataie, Bart Ehrman, and James Tabor. All in one session. The internet would break.
@nwelll
@nwelll Год назад
Except that Ehrman believe in the crucifixion
@nasserfirelordarts6574
@nasserfirelordarts6574 Год назад
Sheesh, add Rabbi Singer in there too and we'll have the ultimate De-Trinity-Inator
@Notreallyhereanymore
@Notreallyhereanymore Год назад
@@nwelllyeah, it was made to appear that he was crucified, so history does not contradict the Quran.
@nwelll
@nwelll Год назад
@@Notreallyhereanymore who really was crucified? So Allah deceived Jesus followers?
@itzmaestro7937
@itzmaestro7937 Год назад
​@@nwelll he didn't deceived anyone. He just saved his prophet from suffering. How? He raised the soul of Jesus pbuh when he was in the cross. So that's why the quran said : they believed that they killed him but no god saved him before they kill him
@ckotty
@ckotty Год назад
A privilege every time I hear you both in conversation discussing some othe most important subjects. Many thanks to both of you 👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽
@sm98710
@sm98710 Год назад
Great episode. This is so eye opening!
@abubakarciroma1466
@abubakarciroma1466 Год назад
May Allah grant guidance to Dr Tabor and may Allah reward you Paul Williams for all your efforts on blogging theology.
@Gamingwithjaizz
@Gamingwithjaizz Год назад
I wish this video should reach to more people. It's very important subject.
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 Год назад
I agree that it's a very "important subject" for us to consider. And it does not matter what religion we profess. What matters is taking time to listen and to be respectful. We can't assume that the information from one scholar is necessarily the "truth" about God almighty. I just wish Paul would invite some traditional Christian scholars who believe in Jesus' divinity. No disrespect intended toward Muslims. I'm here basically to listen and learn. Peace of God to you from Florida USA.
@hksy2k
@hksy2k Год назад
Love these long videos ❤️
@johndrake1979
@johndrake1979 Год назад
Great conversation, really enjoyed it.
@alib7489
@alib7489 Год назад
Best channel on RU-vid! Alhamdulillah
@wkamalkhassan5092
@wkamalkhassan5092 Год назад
Relate in the Book (The story of) Mary, When she withdrew From her family To a place in the East. ١٧- فَاتَّخَذَتْ مِن دُونِهِمْ حِجَابًا فَأَرْسَلْنَا إِلَيْهَا رُوحَنَا فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا بَشَرًا سَوِيًّا ◯ 17. She placed a screen (To screen herself) from them ; Then We sent to her Our angel, and he appeared Before her as a man In all respects. ١٨- قَالَتْ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِالرَّحْمَـٰنِ مِنكَ إِن كُنتَ تَقِيًّا ◯ 18. She said : “ I seek refuge From thee to (God) Most Gracious : (come not near) If thou dost fear God.” ١٩- قَالَ إِنَّمَا أَنَا رَسُولُ رَبِّكِ لِأَهَبَ لَكِ غُلَامًا زَكِيًّا ◯ 19. He said : “ Nay, I am only A messenger from thy Lord, (To announce) to thee The gift of a holy son.” ٢٠- قَالَتْ أَنَّىٰ يَكُونُ لِي غُلَامٌ وَلَمْ يَمْسَسْنِي بَشَرٌ وَلَمْ أَكُ بَغِيًّا ◯ 20. She said : “ How shall I Have a son, seeing that No man has touched me, And I am not unchaste ? ” ٢١- قَالَ كَذَٰلِكِ قَالَ رَبُّكِ هُوَ عَلَيَّ هَيِّنٌ ۖ وَلِنَجْعَلَهُ آيَةً لِّلنَّاسِ وَرَحْمَةً مِّنَّا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرًا مَّقْضِيًّا ◯ 21. He said : “ So (it will be) : Thy Lord saith, ‘ That is Easy for Me : and (We Wish) to appoint him As a Sign unto men And a Mercy from Us ’ : It is a matter (So) decreed.” ٢٢- فَحَمَلَتْهُ فَانتَبَذَتْ بِهِ مَكَانًا قَصِيًّا ◯ 22. So she conceived him, And she retired with him To a remote place.
@ancientmonotheism5118
@ancientmonotheism5118 Год назад
Precious 💞. We need more of this. Barokallahu fiikum Mr. Williams
@MuhammadAziz-b9l
@MuhammadAziz-b9l Год назад
Highly intellect discussion in most respectable way. Love you brother Paul. May ALLAH bless you in this world and the hereafter Amen 🤲
@abdurrazzak2970
@abdurrazzak2970 Год назад
May Allah Bless You in this Life and in the Hereafter.
@MrSongib
@MrSongib Год назад
Paul and James Discussing "Did Jesus' first followers think he was God?" What a time to be alive. Salam.
@manofwar2354
@manofwar2354 Год назад
​@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388no he never His father called moses god too why dont u worship him ?💀💀💀
@manofwar2354
@manofwar2354 Год назад
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 jesus isnt god He said only father is the true god Dude
@manofwar2354
@manofwar2354 Год назад
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 yeah i arabic and eastern semetic jesus is called son of allah by christians
@manofwar2354
@manofwar2354 Год назад
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 in ur theology yes he is the father Father is title ,anyway ,allah deny he is father of anyone because people r d7mb like christians think god has son
@salman13
@salman13 Год назад
​@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 If that is your criteria...Jesus himself.quotes a passage where the father called people God in Psalms . Strange how your own book mocks your beliefs
@s3youtubevids156
@s3youtubevids156 Год назад
Amazing. Listening to Dr Tabor's critical analysis almost feels like someone talking about Islamic beliefs. I wish more people realised Islam is about belief in the one and only God and the message of the prophets including Jesus
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 Год назад
Yes I agree that listening to Dr Tabor "feels like someone talking about Islamic beliefs". I'm not Muslim but I come here to listen and learn. Peace to you..
@s3youtubevids156
@s3youtubevids156 Год назад
Peace to you brother
@mohammedfaisall1651
@mohammedfaisall1651 Год назад
May Allah bless you. Salam from India.
@wkamalkhassan5092
@wkamalkhassan5092 Год назад
And the pains of childbirth Drove her to the trunk Of a palm-tree : She cried (in her anguish) : “ Ah ! would that I had Died before this ! would that I had been a thing Forgotten and out of sight ! ” ٢٤- فَنَادَاهَا مِن تَحْتِهَا أَلَّا تَحْزَنِي قَدْ جَعَلَ رَبُّكِ تَحْتَكِ سَرِيًّا ◯ 24. But (a voice) cried to her From beneath the (palm-tree) : “ Grieve not ! for thy Lord Hath provided a rivulet Beneath thee ; ٢٥- وَهُزِّي إِلَيْكِ بِجِذْعِ النَّخْلَةِ تُسَاقِطْ عَلَيْكِ رُطَبًا جَنِيًّا ◯ 25. “ And shake towards thyself The trunk of the palm-tree : It will let fall Fresh ripe dates upon thee. ٢٦- فَكُلِي وَاشْرَبِي وَقَرِّي عَيْنًا ۖ فَإِمَّا تَرَيِنَّ مِنَ الْبَشَرِ أَحَدًا فَقُولِي إِنِّي نَذَرْتُ لِلرَّحْمَـٰنِ صَوْمًا فَلَنْ أُكَلِّمَ الْيَوْمَ إِنسِيًّا ◯ 26. “ So eat and drink And cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see Any man, say, ‘ I have Vowed a fast to (God) Most Gracious, and this day Will I enter into no talk With any human being.’ ” ٢٧- فَأَتَتْ بِهِ قَوْمَهَا تَحْمِلُهُ ۖ قَالُوا يَا مَرْيَمُ لَقَدْ جِئْتِ شَيْئًا فَرِيًّا ◯ 27. At length she brought The (babe) to her people, Carrying him (in her arms). They said : “ O Mary ! Truly an amazing thing Hast thou brought ! ٢٨- يَا أُخْتَ هَارُونَ مَا كَانَ أَبُوكِ امْرَأَ سَوْءٍ وَمَا كَانَتْ أُمُّكِ بَغِيًّا ◯ 28. “ O sister of Aaron ! Thy father was not A man of evil, nor thy Mother a woman unchaste ! ” ٢٩- فَأَشَارَتْ إِلَيْهِ ۖ قَالُوا كَيْفَ نُكَلِّمُ مَن كَانَ فِي الْمَهْدِ صَبِيًّا ◯ 29. But she pointed to the babe. They said : “ How can we Talk to one who is A child in the cradle ? ”
@Pilatesdxb
@Pilatesdxb Год назад
Brilliant content 👏👏👏
@thinkbeforeyoutype7106
@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 Год назад
Early followers of Jesus view him to be a PROPHET in the Bible. Here’s the proof… Matthew 21:10-11 10 "When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, “Who is this?' 11 "The crowds answered, “This is Jesus, the PROPHET from Nazareth in Galilee.” (Jesus) Luke 13:33 33 "Nevertheless I must walk today, and tomorrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a PROPHET perish out of Jerusalem.” Luke 24:19 19 “What things?” he asked. “About Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a PROPHET, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people. Matthew 13:57 57 “And they were deeply offended and refused to believe in him. Then Jesus told them, “A PROPHET is honored everywhere except in his own hometown and among his own family.” Matthew 5:17 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the PROPHETS; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” Acts 2:22 22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a MAN accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.” Even those who witness his miracles at first hand called him a Great Prophet! Luke 7:15-16 15 "The dead man sat up and began to talk, and Jesus gave him back to his mother." 16 "They were all filled with awe and praised God. “A great PROPHET has appeared among us,” they said.” John 9:17 17 “Then they turned again to the blind man, “What have you to say about him? It was your eyes he opened.” The man replied, “He is a PROPHET.” John 4:19 19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a PROPHET.“ So who should we believe? Those who knew, met, and witness his miracles or those who NEVER met him nor ate/drank with him telling us he’s “god” or “son of god”? May Allah GUIDE those who are sincere and honest before it’s too late for them.
@Tobomann
@Tobomann Год назад
😮
@Shine-ec9bm
@Shine-ec9bm Год назад
From Matthew 5:17 Its already confirm, if he tell as a son of god.. He say it like he is part of prophet.. Confirm by Matthew 13:57 So Son of God ❌ Prophet ✅
@Shine-ec9bm
@Shine-ec9bm Год назад
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 no, that no true.. Its edited from scripture.. Human edit
@renatovasquez6041
@renatovasquez6041 Год назад
The best thing we do is to gather all statements of the apostles, since only to them Jesus revealed all secrets of the kingdom in heaven,, Matthew, 13:10-11 /Mark, 4:34, but before this, Jesus instructed them to preach in the light what he tell them in the dark, and shout at the rooftop what he whispered to them, Matt, 10:26-28,, so, when they preach about Jesus, Acts, 5:28-31,They said,Jehovah, the God of forefathers raised Jesus from the grave, this showed that Jesus whispered to them these, Deut, 32:39 /1st, Sam, 2:6-7 /2nd, Kings, 5:7,
@thinkbeforeyoutype7106
@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 Год назад
@@renatovasquez6041 Jesus in the Bible was a Muslim because he preached and worshiped only ONE God exactly the same way Muslims preach and worship ONE God (pure monotheism). Here's proof from both the Holy Quran and the Bible…. 1) Holy Quran 5:72 72 "They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers." Holy Quran 19:36 36 [Jesus said], "And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path." Now let’s take a look what Jesus has said in the Bible and commanded his followers to do so... Mark 12:29 29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord OUR God, the Lord is ONE." John 17:3 3 "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have SENT." Luke 18:19 19 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone.” John 14:24 24 “Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who SENT me.” John 5:30 30 “By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who SENT me.” Matthew 15:24 24 He answered, “I was SENT only to the lost sheep of Israel.” Matthew 26:39 39 "Going a little farther, he fell with his FACE to the GROUND and prayed." Noticed how Jesus (peace be upon him) always gives credit to God Almighty and he worships his Creator just like Muslims do by placing his head on the ground. 2) Jesus also called his lord as Allah just like Muslims do today. Here's the Aramaic proof... Jesus spoke Aramaic NOT Hebrew which most people think. The word for God in Aramaic is Alah or Allah which is a slight accent/dialect within the Semitic language. Even the Christian scholars who were behind the film Passion of Christ do acknowledge and confirm that Jesus has always called his Lord as Allah... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gRr48TIpzro.html 3) Jesus also greeted people exactly like the Muslims do by, saying Assalaamu Alaykum in Aramaic. Here's the Biblical proof... John 20:21 21 "Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” Luke 24:36 36 "While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you." 4) And finally, Jesus himself and those who met and knew him had called him, a Great Prophet exactly the way Muslims refer to him. Here's more Biblical proof... Matthew 21:10-11 10 "When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, “Who is this?' 11 "The crowds answered, “This is Jesus, the PROPHET from Nazareth in Galilee.” (Jesus) Luke 13:33 33 "Nevertheless I must walk today, and tomorrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a PROPHET perish out of Jerusalem.” Luke 24:19 19 “What things?” he asked. “About Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a PROPHET, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people. Matthew 13:57 57 “And they were deeply offended and refused to believe in him. Then Jesus told them, “A PROPHET is honored everywhere except in his own hometown and among his own family.” Matthew 5:17 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the PROPHETS; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” Acts 2:22 22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a MAN accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.” Even those who witness his miracles at first hand called him a Great Prophet! Luke 7:15-16 15 "The dead man sat up and began to talk, and Jesus gave him back to his mother." 16 "They were all filled with awe and praised God. “A great PROPHET has appeared among us,” they said.” John 9:17 17 “Then they turned again to the blind man, “What have you to say about him? It was your eyes he opened.” The man replied, “He is a PROPHET.” John 4:19 19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a PROPHET.“ So who should we believe? Those who knew, met, and witness his miracles or those who NEVER met him nor ate/drank with him telling us he’s “god” or “son of god”? Seriously, those people need to study the Bible carefully and thoroughly about what Jesus himself said because their eternal salvation depends on it. Jesus prayed to and worshiped Allah only yet they refused and want to pray and worship Allah’s creation (Jesus) instead of the Creator who is Allah. If they continue to reject the true teachings of Prophet Jesus, then Jesus himself has already warned them on what he will do/say to those who claimed to worship him on the Day of Judgment when he and everyone else are in front of Allah Almighty. Matthew 7:22-23 22 “Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!” Subhan’Allah! Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction. Even the word Hallelujah is the same as Alhamdullilah since both words are praising Allah in his actual name yet they don’t even realize it. May Allah guide them and continue to guide us. Jazakallah Khair and Assalaamu Alaykum (Peace Be With You).
@adamk8018
@adamk8018 Год назад
Paul, all the kudos to you and your guest Dr. Tabor for such a fascinating and a very intellectual discussion. This is indeed the truth , as muslims we have no problem in comprehending. I hope more people will watch this and come to the eternal truth and find the peace for the soul
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 Год назад
But of course Muslims will say "This is indeed the truth..." because the discussion with Dr James Tabor correlates positively with the Quranic beliefs of Islam. That's one reason why Paul keeps inviting such scholars to this channel. By the way, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to you or Paul or Dr. Tabor. I actually appreciate this discussion because I'm no scholar and I'm always open-minded to learn things. From my understanding, if Jesus was not divine and sent by God the Father, then Christianity and specifically the crucifixion of Jesus becomes meaningless. Of course we should seek the truth. Only God is all-knowing. May God's guidance open our eyes and our hearts. Respectfully....
@minskdhaka
@minskdhaka Год назад
​@@johnbrzykcy3076: Is Judaism meaningless because Moses or King David were not divine? It certainly isn't. They taught people to worship and love God, as did Jesus. What could be a more meaningful mission than that? Do consider the possibility that Prof. Tabor may be right in his reading and that Islam is true.
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 Год назад
​@@minskdhakaI am somewhat open-minded to the views of other scholars because I don't know it all. Only God is all-knowing. And yes of course Moses and king David did teach people to "worship and love God". I appreciate your concern. I need open mind and an open heart for God's guidance. Respectfully..
@yoakealdrnari
@yoakealdrnari Год назад
17:45 For some reason I smiled when I heard the passage about Prophet Isa saying that Prophet Yahya was greater than him. It reminded me a lot of Prophet Muhammad because he always answered Prophet Ibrahim or Prophet Musa when asked who was the best among men.
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 Год назад
But then why would John the Baptist say, regarding Jesus Christ, " I am not worthy to untie His sandals" ? Was John simply showing respect to Jesus or was he implying something special about Jesus? Respectfully...
@manofwar2354
@manofwar2354 Год назад
​@@johnbrzykcy3076it is respect
@truthdoesntcomeeasy743
@truthdoesntcomeeasy743 Год назад
​@@johnbrzykcy3076Hello John. How's it going? The Muslim helps you with your scriptures. Please read you Bible thoroughly. You've brought up the sandal thing which is in the last Gospel - the Gospel of John. It's the author of John playing up Jesus and trying his best to try to do damage control just like Matthew tried before him. So much for "sinless" Jesus. Mark 1:4 And so John the Baptist appeared in the wilderness, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. .......... Mark 1:9 At that time Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan. So the evidence is there that John the Baptist was preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Jesus was baptized FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS The author of Matthew couldn't really digest this and so he improved the "Word of God" in Mark and made it as if John wanted to be baptised by Jesus and all that drama. Same thing happening with the author of John trying to play up Jesus. Even if for the sake of argument I say that indeed John had amazing praise for Jesus, the bottom line still remains that BOTH these Prophets of God praised each other and showed mutual respect. Jesus calling John the greatest man born of a woman whereas John praising Jesus over himself.
@Scott48-w9i
@Scott48-w9i Год назад
@@johnbrzykcy3076 John the Baptist doubted Matthew 11:3 KJV
@attila0073
@attila0073 8 месяцев назад
not about Jesus there in no Jesus in wordS of john @@johnbrzykcy3076
@majesticsoysauce8648
@majesticsoysauce8648 Год назад
Woah I just watched part one earlier today and this gets uploaded! Alhamdullilah
@brotheryosef3066
@brotheryosef3066 Год назад
This lecture has uniquely discussed the hym of christ, vindicating paul of tarsus from jesus worship.
@BloggingTheology
@BloggingTheology Год назад
Part 1 Did Jesus' first followers think he was God? With Dr. James Tabor ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EXl7D4zInAI.html
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 Год назад
JazakAllah'u khairan
@AbrahamsBridges
@AbrahamsBridges Год назад
Excellent, excellent discussion! Thank you, Dr. Tabor and Paul!
@TahiiiQais
@TahiiiQais Год назад
Always love to listen you Paul. May Allah bless you Paul🤲 Anyone looking for quran teacher? Recitation, Salah with translation, memorization. Also can contact for your children. JazakAllahu khairan
@mahboobkhan3570
@mahboobkhan3570 5 месяцев назад
Excellent presentation. This is quite close to Islamic perspective on Jesus Christ, peace be upon him. For fear of business loss the Church is not interested to know the truth.
@linamansourri1937
@linamansourri1937 Год назад
Qala inni Abdullah - He ( Jesus) said: I am the Servant of Allah … the first Words of Issa ibn Mariam sws after his birth .
@Zaitoon55
@Zaitoon55 Год назад
​@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388Jesus did not even know, he is Jesus. Lol. Bring evidence where his birth name was Jesus. Isa is his birth name. In the language he spoke.
@m.albayati5925
@m.albayati5925 Год назад
So nice Thanks Paul
@user-ij2eq
@user-ij2eq Год назад
We Love them All sent by MOST HIGHT. We Pray and send them Blessings. They are BROTHERS and FAMILY to each other in the HEAVENS.
@baalbuster9294
@baalbuster9294 Год назад
Yes , they did . Thomas addressed Jesus as God (to His face) and Jesus never rebuked him. Why ? Because He is God . The apostle John opened His gospel stating Jesus existed with His Father BEFORE the creation of the world and unequivocally states Jesus “was God,” (1:1). In the book of Revelation, John writes that Jesus uses the title “First and and the Last ,” (Revelation 1:11,17), a title used in both the Old Testament and the Quran for God. The apostle Peter refers to Jesus as “God and Saviour ,” (2 Peter 1:1).
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 Год назад
I appreciate your wonderful comments regarding Jesus. People seem to jump to conclusions so easily when listening to one scholar. I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Dr Tabor or Muslims. But we can't listen to one scholar and then assume it's the "truth" about the Creator. We need to consider many things when questioned about Jesus' divinity. That's why I appreciate your observations. God bless...
@user-kp2dj2zx6v
@user-kp2dj2zx6v Год назад
Where is the link to part 1? I couldn't find it on your channel
@BloggingTheology
@BloggingTheology Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EXl7D4zInAI.html
@sensefirst475
@sensefirst475 Год назад
​@@BloggingTheologyThank you
@thinkbeforeyoutype7106
@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 Год назад
Alhamdullilah for Islam.
@abdiselamabdulahi9621
@abdiselamabdulahi9621 Год назад
Alhamdulillah for Islam ❤
@Zaitoon55
@Zaitoon55 Год назад
Al Hamdulillah a million times and more.
@servantofAllah3113
@servantofAllah3113 Год назад
Memperjalankan di waktu malam (Al-'Isrā'):51 - atau suatu makhluk dari makhluk yang tidak mungkin (hidup) menurut pikiranmu". Maka mereka akan bertanya: "Siapa yang akan menghidupkan kami kembali?" Katakanlah: "Yang telah menciptakan kamu pada kali yang pertama". Lalu mereka akan menggeleng-gelengkan kepala mereka kepadamu dan berkata: "Kapan itu (akan terjadi)?" Katakanlah: "Mudah-mudahan waktu berbangkit itu dekat",Memperjalankan di waktu malam (Al-'Isrā'):52 - yaitu pada hari Dia memanggil kamu, lalu kamu mematuhi-Nya sambil memuji-Nya dan kamu mengira, bahwa kamu tidak berdiam (di dalam kubur) kecuali sebentar saja.Memperjalankan di waktu malam (Al-'Isrā'):88 - Katakanlah: "Sesungguhnya jika manusia dan jin berkumpul untuk membuat yang serupa Al Quran ini, niscaya mereka tidak akan dapat membuat yang serupa dengan dia, sekalipun sebagian mereka menjadi pembantu bagi sebagian yang lain".Memperjalankan di waktu malam (Al-'Isrā'):80 - Dan katakanlah: "Ya Tuhan-ku, masukkanlah aku secara masuk yang benar dan keluarkanlah (pula) aku secara keluar yang benar dan berikanlah kepadaku dari sisi Engkau kekuasaan yang menolong.
@الحمدللهربالعالمين-ش4د
Freedom for Palestine ❤
@Rahmanurrahim1
@Rahmanurrahim1 Год назад
No man will be burdened with anyone sin except for his on the day of judgement.
@rusdtv7553
@rusdtv7553 Год назад
Good sign from Siri to Dr James D Tabor. Siri confused at the same time I was confused and didn’t understand as well
@wkamalkhassan5092
@wkamalkhassan5092 Год назад
He said : “ I am indeed A servant of God : He hath given me Revelation and made me A prophet ; ٣١- وَجَعَلَنِي مُبَارَكًا أَيْنَ مَا كُنتُ وَأَوْصَانِي بِالصَّلَاةِ وَالزَّكَاةِ مَا دُمْتُ حَيًّا ◯ 31. “ And He hath made me Blessed wheresoever I be, And hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long As I live ; ٣٢- وَبَرًّا بِوَالِدَتِي وَلَمْ يَجْعَلْنِي جَبَّارًا شَقِيًّا ◯ 32. “ (He) hath made me kind To my mother, and not Overbearing or miserable ; ٣٣- وَالسَّلَامُ عَلَيَّ يَوْمَ وُلِدتُّ وَيَوْمَ أَمُوتُ وَيَوْمَ أُبْعَثُ حَيًّا ◯ 33. “ So Peace is on me The day I was born, The day that I die, And the day that I Shall be raised up To life (again) ” ! ٣٤- ذَٰلِكَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ ۚ قَوْلَ الْحَقِّ الَّذِي فِيهِ يَمْتَرُونَ ◯ 34. Such (was) Jesus the son Of Mary : (it is) a statement Of truth, about which They (vainly) dispute. ٣٥- مَا كَانَ لِلَّـهِ أَن يَتَّخِذَ مِن وَلَدٍ ۖ سُبْحَانَهُ ۚ إِذَا قَضَىٰ أَمْرًا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ ◯ 35. It is not befitting To (the majesty of) God That He should beget A son. Glory be to Him ! When He determines A matter, He only says To it, “ Be ”, and it is. ٣٦- وَإِنَّ اللَّـهَ رَبِّي وَرَبُّكُمْ فَاعْبُدُوهُ ۚ هَـٰذَا صِرَاطٌ مُّسْتَقِيمٌ ◯ 36. Verily God is my Lord And your Lord : Him Therefore serve ye : this is A Way that is straight.
@tasyarina5800
@tasyarina5800 Год назад
Narrated Uman ; I heard the Prophet ( pbuh ) Saying; Do not Eaggerate in praising Me as the Christians praised the son of mary, For I am Only a slave, So Call me the Slave Of Allah and His Apostle, " ( Sahih Al- Bukhari 3445, Book 60 Hadith 115 )
@carefullychristian8657
@carefullychristian8657 Год назад
But it means they praised him as they worshipped him and abubakar told them those who worshipped mohamed he is dead So muslims in prayer Talk Quran Shahadah Allah angels pray to mohamed Death penality for insulting mohamed He is worshipped Even verses say Allah and messenger that puts mohamed at equal footing with Allah Allah and the messenger know best Shirk shirk Listen to quran only muslims
@tasyarina5800
@tasyarina5800 Год назад
@@carefullychristian8657 Who shirk 🤔😊????
@tasyarina5800
@tasyarina5800 Год назад
Prophet Muhammad said ; " Whoever testifies that there is no God but Allah, Muhammad is his servant and his messenger, that Jesus is the servant of Allah and his Messenger, his word which he bestowed, upon mary and spirit from Him, and that paradise is the truth and hell fire is the truth, then Allah will and it into paradise by whatever good deeds he had done" ( Sahih Al- Bukhari 3435, Sahih muslim 28 ) thanks 😊
@basimali619
@basimali619 Год назад
@@tasyarina5800exactly, a spirit FROM Him, not OF Him.
@basimali619
@basimali619 Год назад
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 yes, God gave Jesus life just like he gave to Adam, which is one thing you are omitting from here
@sembarangan7091
@sembarangan7091 Год назад
Nice to hear people who are experts at speaking. they tell the truth
@vikaedelbertha695
@vikaedelbertha695 Год назад
Allahu Akbar😇Thank you for the video Sir. Haji Paul, May Allah bless you always😇❤
@ramykhaleel3515
@ramykhaleel3515 Год назад
Thanks Mr Williams May Allah exalt you now and in the hereafter Paul this guy is very near Islam. I hope that you try to engage with him in private to convince him of Islam. Jazak Aallah khayr
@MarkelTherapist
@MarkelTherapist Год назад
Salam Alaikum everyone.
@BloggingTheology
@BloggingTheology Год назад
Wa alaykumu s-salam
@snakejuce
@snakejuce Год назад
wa alikom salam wrwb
@TheKhalipha
@TheKhalipha Год назад
What was the book he recommended that has a second edition that’s 600 pages long for Believing Christians?
@mainamuturi6944
@mainamuturi6944 Год назад
The Restitution: Biblical Proof Jesus Is Not God Book by Kermit Zarley
@KalimaTV
@KalimaTV Год назад
Thanks a lot. Baraka Allahu fik Akhi for your content. May Allah bless you and your family. Ameen.
@attila0073
@attila0073 8 месяцев назад
{وَقُولُوا لِلنَّاسِ حُسْناً} (٢-٢)
@thinkbeforeyoutype7106
@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 Год назад
Understand, the Biblical terminology in ancient times regarding Son or Father meant in a figurative sense but never in the literal sense. To be called Son in those times meant, you were a RIGHTEOUS person. In fact, even in today's world, when an old man calls a young man, Son or says, "come here my son" it's considered an HONOR and RESPECT. However, that doesn't mean, you're his real son. Also, most Christians call their priest or Bishop as Father but that doesn't mean he's their "real" father. It's really important to know that when discussing the matter of Jesus and his relationship to the Creator of the heavens and earth. It's also equally important to know that Adam, Abraham, Moses, Solomon, David, etc are also called Son of God in the Bible which further illustrate that point. If the title of Son of God was unique to only Jesus than those Prophets wouldn't have been called Son of God either.
@الحمدللهربالعالمين-ش4د
Freedom for Palestine and Gaza and Kashmir und Turkestan and Africa not just Ukraine
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 Год назад
Prof Shabbir Akhtar wrote a paper for Yaqeen Institute, which is worth reading. Finding and Following Jesus: The Muslim Claim to the Messiah
@s3youtubevids156
@s3youtubevids156 Год назад
Would great if you post a link
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 Год назад
@@s3youtubevids156 Sir, just Google it.
@philiplishman532
@philiplishman532 Год назад
Matthew 16:13-18 (DRB) 13 And Jesus came into the quarters of Caesarea Philippi: and he asked his disciples, saying: Whom do men say that the Son of man is? 14 But they said: Some John the Baptist, and other some Elias, and others Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 Jesus saith to them: But whom do you say that I am? 16 Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
@salman13
@salman13 Год назад
Son to jews meant what? Trinitarian crap or an expression they used for prophets and holy men? That is what reading in context means. If you want to pretend he was speaking of the trinity, you have t prove that Jews used that expression in that manner. They didn't. So if you read and see that expression in context of its Jewish speaking crowd, you'd be a Unitarian first and foremost.
@lawrencecron672
@lawrencecron672 Год назад
I would absolutely enjoy an episode with Rabbi Tovia Singer please.
@maruf2050
@maruf2050 Год назад
Excellent content
@stephendavies2925
@stephendavies2925 3 дня назад
Gospel of John: In the beginning was the word and the word was with God, and the word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him and without him was not anything made that was made! You cannot make it any clearer! The divinity of the Word! Jesus Christ!
@youngknowledgeseeker
@youngknowledgeseeker Год назад
The 2 big differences between the New Testament and the Quran seem to be between the claims that Jesus died and that he rightfully has the title and identity of "son of God". It's not nonsense about whether or not he's God. It's obvious none of the authors of the New Testament thought he was God, it's not even an argument. I look forward to the day that Christians and Muslims discuss these actual differences and not waste time arguing over the Trinity.
@intannera30
@intannera30 Год назад
Late to watch. But better late than never 😊
@philiplishman532
@philiplishman532 Год назад
Is it not possible that each of us experiences an eschaton privately, whether or not others see it? For "In my Father's house are many mansions" (cf. John 14:2). Each of us experiences the universe from a unique point of view. But could it not be that each of us has our own universe, and that they are permitted by the grace of God both to overlap and diverge according to God's will and our actions?
@snakejuce
@snakejuce Год назад
Truth stands out from falsehood. No matter how many mansions you want to imagine.
@kornonacob
@kornonacob Год назад
Alhamdulillah...great discussions
@hassnaaelkalaa5288
@hassnaaelkalaa5288 Год назад
Amazing ! Thankyou for sharing, Dios / Allah may continue to bless you
@danielmalinen6337
@danielmalinen6337 8 месяцев назад
Unlike Christians who teach that Luke is an independent gospel that doesn't copy others as sources, the author of Luke doesn't deny that they uses Mark as their source but admits it: Peshitta Luke:1:1-4 "Since many have been disposed to write narratives of those events, of which we have full assurance, as they delivered them to us, who from the first were eye-witnesses and ministers of the word; it seemed proper for me also, as I had examined them all accurately, to write out the whole, methodically, for thee, excellent Theophilus: that thou mayest know the truth of the statements, which thou hast been taught." This means that the author clearly knew it, had read it and maybe owned their own copy. However, some scholars have recently criticized that the Teophilos prefaces might be later forgeries rather than being part of the original text and they would have been added only to deceive the readers. So that's why I'm not entirely sure.
@muhammadimranhanif5052
@muhammadimranhanif5052 Год назад
Hazrat Issa A.s is the man (Prophet) of GOD. He was a Worshiper of GOD.
@thinkbeforeyoutype7106
@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 Год назад
Jesus in the Bible was a Muslim because he preached and worshiped only ONE God exactly the same way Muslims preach and worship ONE God (pure monotheism). Here's proof from both the Holy Quran and the Bible…. 1) Holy Quran 5:72 72 "They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers." Holy Quran 19:36 36 [Jesus said], "And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path." Now let’s take a look what Jesus has said in the Bible and commanded his followers to do so... Mark 12:29 29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord OUR God, the Lord is ONE." John 17:3 3 "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have SENT." Luke 18:19 19 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone.” John 14:24 24 “Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who SENT me.” John 5:30 30 “By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who SENT me.” Matthew 15:24 24 He answered, “I was SENT only to the lost sheep of Israel.” Matthew 26:39 39 "Going a little farther, he fell with his FACE to the GROUND and prayed." Noticed how Jesus (peace be upon him) always gives credit to God Almighty and he worships his Creator just like Muslims do by placing his head on the ground. 2) Jesus also called his lord as Allah just like Muslims do today. Here's the Aramaic proof... Jesus spoke Aramaic NOT Hebrew which most people think. The word for God in Aramaic is Alah or Allah which is a slight accent/dialect within the Semitic language. Even the Christian scholars who were behind the film Passion of Christ do acknowledge and confirm that Jesus has always called his Lord as Allah... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gRr48TIpzro.html 3) Jesus also greeted people exactly like the Muslims do by, saying Assalaamu Alaykum in Aramaic. Here's the Biblical proof... John 20:21 21 "Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” Luke 24:36 36 "While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you." 4) And finally, Jesus himself and those who met and knew him had called him, a Great Prophet exactly the way Muslims refer to him. Here's more Biblical proof... Matthew 21:10-11 10 "When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, “Who is this?' 11 "The crowds answered, “This is Jesus, the PROPHET from Nazareth in Galilee.” (Jesus) Luke 13:33 33 "Nevertheless I must walk today, and tomorrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a PROPHET perish out of Jerusalem.” Luke 24:19 19 “What things?” he asked. “About Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a PROPHET, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people. Matthew 13:57 57 “And they were deeply offended and refused to believe in him. Then Jesus told them, “A PROPHET is honored everywhere except in his own hometown and among his own family.” Matthew 5:17 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the PROPHETS; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” Acts 2:22 22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a MAN accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.” Even those who witness his miracles at first hand called him a Great Prophet! Luke 7:15-16 15 "The dead man sat up and began to talk, and Jesus gave him back to his mother." 16 "They were all filled with awe and praised God. “A great PROPHET has appeared among us,” they said.” John 9:17 17 “Then they turned again to the blind man, “What have you to say about him? It was your eyes he opened.” The man replied, “He is a PROPHET.” John 4:19 19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a PROPHET.“ So who should we believe? Those who knew, met, and witness his miracles or those who NEVER met him nor ate/drank with him telling us he’s “god” or “son of god”? Seriously, those people need to study the Bible carefully and thoroughly about what Jesus himself said because their eternal salvation depends on it. Jesus prayed to and worshiped Allah only yet they refused and want to pray and worship Allah’s creation (Jesus) instead of the Creator who is Allah. If they continue to reject the true teachings of Prophet Jesus, then Jesus himself has already warned them on what he will do/say to those who claimed to worship him on the Day of Judgment when he and everyone else are in front of Allah Almighty. Matthew 7:22-23 22 “Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!” Subhan’Allah! Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction. Even the word Hallelujah is the same as Alhamdullilah since both words are praising Allah in his actual name yet they don’t even realize it. May Allah guide them and continue to guide us. Jazakallah Khair and Assalaamu Alaykum (Peace Be With You).
@MaryamNuura
@MaryamNuura Год назад
​@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388father literally means the God. Son of God literally means the servant of God. Father,son are just used as metaphor but christians donot understand and took it as literal father and his son😂 go and ask Jews they understand it and were reading it before u
@daodejing81
@daodejing81 Год назад
Religion doesn't matter
@Fur38kan
@Fur38kan Год назад
Allah razi olsun
@el.creyente
@el.creyente 3 месяца назад
"You will surely find the most bitter towards the believers to be the Jews and polytheists and the most gracious to be those who call themselves Christian. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not arrogant." Quran 5:82
@sutil5078
@sutil5078 Год назад
1:12:49 🔖🔖 Dr. Tabor said many many eye-0pening stuff: he mentioned the Matthew 25 I went and read it, (wow wow wow, now I need to find time to read the whole NT or even the whole OT AND NT>..) because when I read it before my Islamic knoweldge (especially Quranic verses) was not as strong as now.. Hear is Matthew 25, read it carefully please, see what the . read this The Parable of the Ten Bridesmaids, obviously it shows 2 groups one prepare for Judgement Day and another are not, notice verse 8 in particular: Matthew 25:1-13 25 “Then the kingdom of heaven will be like this. Ten bridesmaid took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom.b 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. 3 When the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them; 4 but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps. 5 As the bridegroom was delayed, all of them became drowsy and slept. 6 But at midnight there was a shout, ‘Look! Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those bridesmaid got up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9 But the wise replied, ‘No! there will not be enough for you and for us; you had better go to the dealers and buy some for yourselves.’ 10 And while they went to buy it, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went with him into the wedding banquet; and the door was shut. 11 Later the other bridesmaids came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12 But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I do not know you.’ 13 Keep awake therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour." I got shiver and goosebumps because it echoed this Quranic verses... Now having read Jesus words above, please read these verses in the Quran: 12. "On that Day you will see believing men and women with their light shining ahead of them and on their right. ˹They will be told,˺ “Today you have good news of Gardens, under which rivers flow, ˹for you˺ to stay in forever. This is ˹truly˺ the ultimate triumph.” 13. On that Day hypocrite men and women will beg the believers, “Wait for us so that we may have some of your light.” It will be said ˹mockingly˺, “Go back ˹to the world˺ and seek a light ˹there˺!” Then a ˹separating˺ wall with a gate will be erected between them. On the near side will be grace and on the far side will be torment. 14. The tormented will cry out to those graced, “Were we not with you?” They will reply, “Yes ˹you were˺. But you chose to be tempted ˹by hypocrisy˺, ˹eagerly˺ awaited ˹our demise˺, doubted ˹the truth˺, and were deluded by false hopes until Allah’s decree ˹of your death˺ came to pass. And ˹so˺ the Chief Deceiver1 deceived you about Allah. 15. So Today no ransom will be accepted from you ˹hypocrites˺, nor from the disbelievers. Your home is the Fire-it is the ˹only˺ fitting place for you. What an evil destination!” Also Dr Tabor may also meant to link the end of that passage in Matt to notice also when Jesus said the door was closed and what they say: " 10 And while they went to buy it, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went with him into the wedding banquet; and the door was shut. 11 Later the other bridesmaids came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12 But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I do not know you.’ 13 Keep awake therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour." the wall =the door Gospel "you had better go to the dealers and buy some for yourselves" = " It will be said ˹mockingly˺, “Go back ˹to the world˺ and seek a light ˹there˺!” " also it evokes OTHER passages in the Quran and the bible Mathew : I think Dr. Tabor (knows some thing about Islam) notice just before that "he said I am not saying this to cater for you because you are a Muslim.." he was telling him subtly it echoed the Quran.. not only it evokes the verses I gave above!! He may have meant this part of the message: "12 But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I do not know you.’ 13 Keep awake therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour." that you just read, which evoke the other Mathew passage:Matt 7-22-23 "Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers* " Matt 7-22-23 (another translation says, instead of evildoers "you who break God's laws" another says "you workers of lawlessness" ) !’ " Mat 7-22-23. Who abolished the law? PAUL , Paul who called Jesus a curse for us and to replace the curse of the law!! how could he dare to call Jesus and the law that God gave Moses curse!!!!!! Ask Who prophecies in the name of Jesus and and in your name drive out demons? who does that? aren't they the Christians of today!! but because they abolished the law, and called him "Lord! Lord !in the sense of God" he will deny knowing them!! because he did not teach them that!! He said keep the law not even a tittle not even a jot etc.. he said God is one!! No wonder he would not recognize them and rebuke them!! And trust me it may sound harsh on these who say "lord lord" on that day.. but remember if they were sincere they would have been guided.. rather they used Jesus name to earn money and get money to heal people on night channels !! shaking their hand and making fake actors walk again etc.. The scene can be echoed here in this Quranic verse: (this dialogue will happen either after or before the Matthew you just read above" : "And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen. -God knows if Jesus did or did not, but to let his worshipers hear the truth from Jesus mouth... so that Matthew 7: 22-23 may come after this verse as in (please help us we did miracles in your name, you can't leave us like that... please lord lord.. and he will tell them away from me evil doers I never knew you" or Matthew 22-23 comes first in day of Judgement they will come and ask Jesus Lord lord, and then God will ask Jesus before them "did you say ..." all link to the bridesmaids "Later the other bridesmaids came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12 But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I do not know you.’ 13 Keep awake therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour." the wall (in Quran) =the door (in the Gospel) But Tabor said all this subtly he started by saying "allllllllllllllllllll nations will be gathered on that day" he made emphasis on that too why? I think Paul did not realize it... Dr. Tabor may may have had in mind also this Verse In Quran: "And you will see every nation kneeling [from fear]. Every nation will be called to its record [and told], "Today you will be recompensed for what you used to do." Dr. may meant only "did you say take me and my mother as ..." verse, or the nations all well be gathered and judged by their deeds not by the blood etc.. or both.. if so it means, though he is not scholar of Quran, he has good knoweldge of it... or maybe he meant one reference and I just draw more parallel from the Bridesmaids verses!! Great video, thank you both Paul and Dr. Tabor, may God (Allaha in Aramaic, Allah in Arabic) grant both of you light, wisdom, mercy, love and above all guidance and all of us amin. thanks
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 Год назад
I'm a Christian believer and still reading your comments. I do appreciate your honesty. I've never read the Quran so I can't say much but your comparison of some Quranic verses with New Testament verses is interesting. I hope to make another comment later after I read more of your observations. Peace of God to you from Florida USA.
@sutil5078
@sutil5078 Год назад
Seek brother, Quran said many thing, dont say 3 (you do say three) dont take Jesus and his mother as deity (catholic do,) they pray to Mary, I know many friends who are catholic, they pray to Mary, there were sect in Arabia at the time of the prophet who worship Jesus and Mary, some call them maryiamites (spelling?)
@sutil5078
@sutil5078 Год назад
Seek, brother, Allah in the Quran says stop saying three "to the trinitarian"..but also he in another verse, addressed the other group who venerate and worship God throw Mary.. I am surprised that you affirm that no one worship Mary! I have seen with my eyes.. they stand and kneel and pray to her statues .. they carry picture of her in their wallets, hand bags... Some pagan Arabs at that time knew that, how would Allah (or Muhammad pbuh ignore that fact? If Muhammad pbuh copied the bible, which you have insinuate many times, then how could it agree with some minute details that can be found in the bible, and deny major creed crucifixion which was believed by many even pagan Arab heard of it. Why would a false prophet care for that... or care to praise a Jew woman Mary peace be upon her. Quran shows that Allah chose Mary as the best woman of her time (the only female mentioned by name in the Quran ) and never mentioned Muhammad's own Wife whom he loved and was the first Human to believe in him and or Abu Baker (the first man who believed in his message.. or his own daughter Fatimah? this is deduction using inference.. There are plenty of example where Quran corrected the bible (and never copied errors in the bible..) that is another sign.. never mentioned an incest stories in the bible.. why not .. a copier would do that.. I am reasoning by inference and deduction.. (notice I don't preach I just use logical argument)
@sutil5078
@sutil5078 Год назад
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 I don't know where you get this misinformation from, but it consoles me a lot, that If I know that you won't trust review of Co/ke on pe/psi 50 cent can , yet you take your review on Islam from haters/anti muslim sites, or from competing faith, If I know that, imagine how much God knows about your sincerity level and mine. God does not guide us if we are insincere or here to defend our tradition, customs, nationalism, way of life (forefathers' way) .. most do that .. when we die, non of that will help us, but our sincere intention.. brother. I conveyed, and it is a choice. Nice day
@dwiyantoprakosa2445
@dwiyantoprakosa2445 4 месяца назад
This dialogue proves and confirms the Prophethood of 'Isa (Jesus) Al Masih pbuh (as a messenger specifically sent for The Jews) !!! 🙏
@user-ij2eq
@user-ij2eq Год назад
Dustoni Khudo Khudo naboshand, Lekin zi Khudo judo naboshand. The Friends of God are not God, But They are never separate from God. Mavlana Rumi,
@spicyeddict
@spicyeddict Год назад
Welcome. James
@Nexus-ub4hs
@Nexus-ub4hs Год назад
Would it be possible to try and limit talking over each other, it’s hard to hear what’s being said. Thanks
@yasminee52
@yasminee52 Год назад
Jesus pbuh said : now this eternal life that they know you , the only true God ,and Jesus Christ whom you have sent Jesus said: Hear O Israel the Lord our God is one Jesus teachings Match his teachings in the QURAN 100% Jesus don of Mary is the messenger of God
@D-Trez
@D-Trez Год назад
If "the only true God" is "the father", then allah is afalse god by definition because allah is not a father to anyone in any shape or form. "Hear O israel" is deut 6.4, which is about 3 that are 1. Sound familiar?
@yasminee52
@yasminee52 Год назад
@@D-Trez your ignorance blowed my mind . First why are you using the term (Allah) as a non Arab ? Are you stupid ? Do you want to confuse people . Our Lord is not called to Allah is it is simply God and we call him Allah in Arabic as Jesus called God ALLAHA or Elah . That’s one 2 do you think that God the father is explicit to you ? No he s our God all the God of the universe that’s why he sent his last revelation the Quran to his last servant Mohammed right ? And this is something you will never accept that God calls you liars in the Quran and that you are saying lies about him and you attributed a son to him which something no Muslim and no Jew would accept and in addition to that you are working so hard to dismiss God almighty and replace him with Jesus Christ . This is complete blasphemy ! 4 go read some books and some early Christianity books so you d know that you be been lied to 🤥 and that you re living a delusion . Next time do not embarrass yourself in front of me . See how hard are you trying to debunk Islam ? And see how it is resisting and growing bigger and bigger ? Don’t you ask yourself which power is helping this religion grow despite all the hate ? No you won’t cuz you re afraid of the truth .+ you re so linguistically ignorant go take some lessons in Semitic languages cuz you re making of you a fool when you say ALLAH as a westerner 🤣🤣
@yasminee52
@yasminee52 Год назад
@@D-Trez and the trinity doesn’t exist again you want understand because of your poor linguistic knowledge I am an Arab and when I read the first commandment that Jesus said hear o Israel the Lord our God is one he used the term A7ad or Akhad as in the Torah and in Hebrew which is specific for ONE GOD and that’s the father almighty the one God ☝️ + he could have said your Lord instead of our Lord but he was referring to the God that he wasn’t part of now think again and use that stubborn mind . The trinity isn’t real there is 1 GOD and you are polytheists and you ll never be pure monotheists . Pls read a little bit cuz ignorance is so bad
@yasminee52
@yasminee52 Год назад
@@D-Trez go listen to Dr Paul and Gary wills and Gary Miller biggest professors of Christianity worshiping Allah and Christ accepting Islam as the last revelation to humankind . These are professors big intellectuals genius minds and here you are a coward saying about the God who gives you oxygen food shelter and another day as a chance to be a better person a false God and that he isn’t one but 3 in one you should be ashamed you should be ashamed blasphemer repent before it’s too late and accept monotheism and the God of Abraham
@D-Trez
@D-Trez Год назад
@@yasminee52 Jesus quoted deut 6.4 which says: "Jehovah, elohunu, jehovah are echad (one)." The three that are one.
@aaraazameen8218
@aaraazameen8218 Год назад
Is the book that contains contradictions from God? 👇 Who carried the cross? John 19:16‭-‬17 ( Jesus ) Matthew 27:32 ( Simon) Mark 15:21 ( Simon) Luke 23:26 ( Simon ) .......... Did Moses see God’s face or not? Exodus 33:11 [ the Lord would speak to Moses face to face ] Exodus 33:20 [ the Lord said to Moses you cannot see my face ] ................. Does the Lord get tired or not? Isaiah 40:28 [ the Lord will not grow tired or weary ] John 4:6 [ Jesus being wearied ] Genesis 2:2‭-‬3 [ The Lord rested on the seventh day ] ........... Did Jesus love his enemies or hate them? Matthew 5:44 ( love enemies ) Luke 19:27 ( execute enemies ) Jeremiah 46:10) ( The Lord takes revenge on his enemies with the sword) Deuteronomy 20:14 ( Captivity of women and children and eat the spoil of thine enemies) .......... Does God regret making decisions or not? Numbers 23:19 ( God doesn't regret ) Genesis 6:6 ( God regrets ) Exodus 32:14 ( God regrets ) .......... Is the witness of Jesus of himself true or false? John 8:14 ( my witness is true ) John 5:31 ( my witness is not true) .......... Did those who were with Saul hear the voice of the Lord, or not? Acts 9:7 [ They heard the voice] Acts 22:9 [ they heard not the voice That's why Allah Almighty in Noble Qur'an says 👇 Qur'an 4 : 82 [ Do they not then ponder on the Qur’an? If it had been from anyone other than Allah, they would have surely found many discrepancies in it ( Qur'an) .
@touhidrahman-ef1qp
@touhidrahman-ef1qp Год назад
❤ send back all ruhinga to Myanmar from Bangladesh ❤
@AyaBakloul
@AyaBakloul 6 месяцев назад
As muslim this was very helpful of course i need to do my own studies as islam encourage critical thinking
@marwaahmed177
@marwaahmed177 Год назад
We need Arabic caption please Mr. Paul 🌹🌹
@zakifad1985
@zakifad1985 Год назад
Learn English brother. It's the global language.
@Goodkidjr43
@Goodkidjr43 Год назад
Sooo, basically, the Pharisees and Sadducees were right in having Jesus crucified because they believed He claimed to be the Son of God which is a blasphemy. You guys are brilliant!......sarc
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 Год назад
But do you think Jesus' crucifixion accomplished anything or was Jesus' death a meaningless historical event? I'm just curious what you think. No disrespect intended.
@georgiacap9294
@georgiacap9294 Год назад
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Jesus dying and rising again defeated death, sin and Satan. He opened Paradise again for humanity. That’s what Jesus death achieved, eternal life with God for the righteous and eternal separation from God for the evildoers. Matthew 25:31-46
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 Год назад
​@@georgiacap9294 Thanks so much for the information, especially regarding Jesus' "dying and rising". Although I don't understand it all, I need to worship God and be thankful for what Jesus did for me ( and all humanity). Please keep me in prayer sometime. God bless. From Florida USA
@georgiacap9294
@georgiacap9294 Год назад
@@johnbrzykcy3076 I’m an orthodox Christian and we say the Jesus Prayer regularly throughout the day ‘Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner’. ❤️❤️
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 Год назад
@@georgiacap9294 I like that prayer. Thanks for sharing. And greetings in Jesus' name from Florida USA. God bless
@mumtazshamsee5029
@mumtazshamsee5029 5 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@BloggingTheology
@BloggingTheology 5 месяцев назад
Many thanks!
@abuafifeh09
@abuafifeh09 Год назад
Great insight!
@pdrsan993
@pdrsan993 3 месяца назад
Paul did not edit Dr.Tabor's mess ups
@linoross7493
@linoross7493 Год назад
Whats wrong in tthen idolizing Jesus. God would guide them just the same. Would this be such a serious imorality?
@kingofdetroit358
@kingofdetroit358 Год назад
If God did allow 1 men to be worshiped for just 1 min.... God wouldn't choose jesus, it would be the paraclete, Ahmad.... mainly because he sacrificed hes 1 guaranteed emergency dua until the day of judgment for hes ummah. Because of our Nabi, every sinful muslim will have the kingdom of heaven jesus preached about profoundly. It was so profound that it gets annoying....rasulallah was also Jesus rabbi
@abc_music4626
@abc_music4626 Год назад
Where is part one ?
@khaleefax9553
@khaleefax9553 Год назад
*Dr. Robert Beckford did an EXCELLENT research on this."* *Search youtube for this text to find the video "jesus:better understanding by robert beckford"*
@snakejuce
@snakejuce Год назад
TLDR: No! They NEVER believed Jesus was God. This was a LATER DEVELOPMENT/INTERPOLATION.
@arabianknight0000
@arabianknight0000 Год назад
So why is James not a Muslim yet?
@WORLDNEWREALITY
@WORLDNEWREALITY Год назад
He is. He believes in one God. According to the Quran a Muslim is one who has absolutely surrendered to Allah and his commands and believes in pure monotheism (the oneness of God) that isn't tainted with any polytheism and this is why the Almighty has introduced Prophet Abraham as a true Muslim in the Quran.
@arabianknight0000
@arabianknight0000 Год назад
@@WORLDNEWREALITY if he doesn't acknowledge do the shahada that God is One, Muhammad pbuh is the final messenger and Islam is the path to God then he is not a Muslim
@aze.4155
@aze.4155 Год назад
​@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388and it was not Jesus PBUH, Do you think Satan will worship jesus? A human like adam? I dont think so
@dinomar7818
@dinomar7818 Год назад
Dr. James, I really wish that you examine the truthfulness of Muhammad and the Quran. Don't you find our claim to be thrilling? If the Quran is really dictated to Muhammad by God, wouldn't that make it the most precious of documents? Why take our claim seriously? At least because enough people vouch for it so as to make it the soon-to-be largest religion in the world! If your investigation bears fruit, you gain infinity, and if it does not, you still gain knowledge useful to your specialization; you lose not. Thanks for your time.
@Zaitoon55
@Zaitoon55 Год назад
​​​@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 Keep dreaming. Until reality of the day of judgement hits you. Jesus will deny all his worshippers. Imagine entrusting your eternal life to a fellow human being without Actual proof he has any power to save you. I think that's a careless thing to do considering there is no returning to this world. When we die, that's it. So its best to be wise and read the scriptures with an open mind that you may be guided. Eternal life means forever in Hell or in Paradise depending on your Deeds and Beliefs. Qur'an chapter 5:16-18. "And (mention) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): “O ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: ‘Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?’ ” He will say: “Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden and unseen. 117."I never told them anything except what You commanded me to say: “Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me,1 You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things." 118" If You punish them, they belong to You after all.1 But if You forgive them, You are surely the Almighty, All-Wise.”
@lovetwentyfourseven7428
@lovetwentyfourseven7428 10 месяцев назад
Did Mary and Joseph tell anyone the specifics of the virgin birth? Is that something they just didn’t fully understand? In no place do they tell anyone; perhaps at a certain point if Jesus finds out maybe he’s shocked and tries to understand it himself…??
@sunwukong32
@sunwukong32 Год назад
I'm very curious about something. If "Matthew" & "Luke" have things in common that aren't in "Mark", wouldn't the simpler explanation be that "Luke" simply copied from "Matthew"? Or is there more evidence that proves this information couldn't have originated with "Matthew"?
@extraordinary.verses
@extraordinary.verses Год назад
_And he arose and immediately taking up his bed, he went out before all, so that they all were astonished, and glorified God, saying: Thus never saw we._ (Mark, Chapter 2, verse 12) _When the crowd saw this they were filled with awe, and they praised God who had given such authority to man._ (Matt, Chapter 9, verse 8). In Mark the word "authority" is not found. Christian theologians misinterpreted the word “authority” in Matt. its not authority to forgive sin which the scribes were talking about. its the authority to cure the paralyzed. The crowd were stunned seeing the paralyzed man walking and glorified God not Jesus. The crowd saw this miracle and they went: "wow, and praised God who gave Jesus authority to cure the paralyzed".
@Gog3453
@Gog3453 Год назад
Jesus came to bring the children of Israel back to the laws of Moses
@carefullychristian8657
@carefullychristian8657 Год назад
It is not what they thought but what the scriptutes of the law psalms and prophets said. You take a dip dive in NT but miss what tanakh said. They certainly never took messiah to be God but based on certaon verses in the gospels they must have known he was divine . Foremost Psalms 110 v 1 to 5 Qouted by messiah in john and peter in acts clearly shows one sitting at Gods postion of authority...right hand and has a high priest role. So they knew for sure he was Davids lord and so their lord. In john he says he was with the father before the world was created
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