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Did Martin Luther Remove the Apocrypha from the Bible? 

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Did Martin Luther take or remove books from the Bible? Unlock the truth about Martin Luther and the Apocrypha in this enlightening journey through history! Dive into an antique 1800's Martin Luther Bible, witnessing the Apocrypha's inclusion. Dispelling the common misconception, we explore Luther's actual role in shaping the Bible.
Key Insights:
- Martin Luther didn't remove the Apocrypha; he repositioned it.
- The Apocrypha was moved to a separate section, emphasizing a distinct authority.
- Luther explicitly stated the Apocrypha's usefulness and value for reading.
- The decision to exclude the Apocrypha from some Protestant Bibles happened long after Luther's time.
Join me on this quest for historical accuracy and a deeper understanding of Luther's perspective on the Apocrypha. Challenge misconceptions and explore the rich tapestry of religious history. Subscribe now for more historical revelations and biblical insights!
References:
1. Martin Luther's German Bible
2. Martin Luther, Luther’s Works, American Edition, vols. 1-30, ed. Jaroslav Pelikan (St. Louis: Concordia, 1955-76); vols. 31-55, ed. Helmut Lehmann (Philadelphia/Minneapolis: Muhlenberg/Fortress, 1957-86); vols. 56- 82, ed. Christopher Boyd Brown and Benjamin T. G. Mayes (St. Louis: Concordia, 2009). Hereafter AE.
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@gclmedia
@gclmedia 18 дней назад
Check out my Apocrypha Playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PLDeCxlE5-BAPUfLvJDjCkmTXo-fXyL3h3
@doubtingthomas9117
@doubtingthomas9117 7 месяцев назад
The Anglican reformers regarded these books in the same way-had them in a separate section btw the OT and NT. They taught (in the 39 Articles) that these books were good for edification but not “for establishing doctrine”. However in the Books of Homilies (which were endorsed in the 39 Articles as containing “wholesome doctrine”) these books were quoted dozens of times for additional support for the doctrines taught in the Homilies.
@gclmedia
@gclmedia 7 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your insight. I hope you enjoyed the video. You are ABSOLUTELY correct! What will surprise many even more is that Martin Luther and others before him believed that these books were written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Their own words (not mine). This teaches us that there is a huge difference between "inspiration" and what is called "inspired."
@doubtingthomas9117
@doubtingthomas9117 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, as an Anglican I hold these books in high regard. The early church fathers held these books in high regard as well, even those (like Athanasius) that put them in a separate category from the “canonical” books.
@zeektm1762
@zeektm1762 3 месяца назад
I think some of his concerns may be founded on some faulty assumptions (based on modern scholarship). For example, he seemed to favor Jerome’s perspective on these books. Jerome’s criteria of “Hebrew Truth” (a focus on canonicity being for books which have Hebrew texts, not Greek) can have skepticism drawn with new discoveries of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Luther also seemed to not acknowledge Jerome’s opinion as being, his opinion, whereas his respect for the Church and its ecumenical bodies of decision making (councils) is left out.
@shannonspoelman4139
@shannonspoelman4139 2 месяца назад
Well explained, thanks for the informative video!
@andrewgeissinger5242
@andrewgeissinger5242 6 месяцев назад
Yes, I knew Luther didn't remove the Apocrypha. Why would anyone think that anyway? People who think that obviously have never seen a Luther Bible.
@gclmedia
@gclmedia 6 месяцев назад
99% of Protestantism
@AppleOfThineEye
@AppleOfThineEye 2 месяца назад
@@gclmedia According to what studies?
@dannylo5875
@dannylo5875 8 месяцев назад
Mmm. I need to check this out
@gclmedia
@gclmedia 8 месяцев назад
Don’t take my word for it! 🤗 I encourage you to search it out for yourself.
@354seven
@354seven 5 месяцев назад
Awesome content. Thank you
@gclmedia
@gclmedia 5 месяцев назад
You are most welcome! Thank you even more. I appreciate you!
@NotAnotherTheory
@NotAnotherTheory 8 месяцев назад
I'm currently working on this right now... The key is to look at which books the Septuagint were translated from between the 3rd and 2nd century BC. That means there are 11 books missing from the modern day translations of the OT... Some of these missing books are referenced in the OT and NT. Then there's the NT books that need consideration, like the gospel of Peter which gives more context to some of the events of the other gospels... I've examined the reasons and claims as to why these books don't belong and found they were ALL (thus far) lies thus far (except for the Gnostic books like the gospel of Mary and Thomas). 😐 Satan is behind their removal, the father of lies...
@gclmedia
@gclmedia 8 месяцев назад
There is sooooo much misinformation out there. It is our God-given task “to study” the show ourselves approved. It is my hope to be just a spark that ignites someone’s desire to search the scriptures.
@MatthewMencias
@MatthewMencias 9 дней назад
Martin Luther believed that the apocryphal books were not as important or as special as the other books in the Bible. He thought they were still good to read, but not as significant as the rest of the Bible. By moving them to a separate section, Luther wanted to show that these books were not as powerful or authoritative as the other books. Martin Luther repositioned the apocryphal books between the Old Testament and the New Testament in his translation of the Bible during the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century. The Latin Vulgate is an old Latin Bible translation completed by St. Jerome in the late 4th century. Martin Luther, a key figure in the Reformation, moved the apocryphal books in the Latin Vulgate to a different section in his Bible. By doing this, Luther wanted to show that he believed these books were not as important as the other books in the Bible. He made it clear that the apocryphal books did not have the same level of authority as the rest of the Bible. Martin Luther made these changes to the Bible during a time in history called the Reformation, which happened in the 1500s. Luther moved certain books to a different part of the Bible to show that he thought they were not as important as the other books. By doing this, he wanted to highlight that these books were not as powerful or authoritative as the rest of the Bible. Is this info correct?
@gclmedia
@gclmedia 9 дней назад
Thank you for watching and engaging. I’d have to say it’s a little more nuanced than that. In Martin Luther’s works he breaks down what challenged him and/or the reformers with the Apocryphal books. It will surprise you tremendously what he actually says. In my latest video I read Luther’s views in part concerning Sirach and Wisdom of Solomon. Have you seen it? If not, 👉🏾 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ucx5Wx2vf6E.htmlsi=fxO2-Hvd1dN5swin
@PastorGreads
@PastorGreads 8 месяцев назад
🤯 This is my Joy! I enjoy every moment!
@TheEvdavis7
@TheEvdavis7 11 дней назад
Where did you get that Bible from ?
@gclmedia
@gclmedia 11 дней назад
Blessings! Thank you for watching and engaging! Which book are you referring to? Martin Luther Works or my antique German Luther Bible?
@TheEvdavis7
@TheEvdavis7 11 дней назад
Yea the Antique Lutheran Bible but I see it’s in German lol . I still would like it for my Library and collection but I can tell it will be hard to find and expensive.
@gclmedia
@gclmedia 11 дней назад
@TheEvdavis7 Yes it is very difficult to find but not impossible. I get most of my Bibles through 316antiquebibles.com reach out to Robert, he is awesome. R
@TheEvdavis7
@TheEvdavis7 11 дней назад
Hello my friend ! Thank you I will do
@onlylove556
@onlylove556 8 месяцев назад
This is something I didn't know when I was studying the Biblical canon, & how we got our Bible canonized that we read 2day. I found out it wasn't until the late 4th century, That it took the church over 350 yrs to even canonize the books into one book. This shows how important oral traditions were, like 2 Thessalonians 2:15; & 1 Corinthians 11:2; states to follow oral, & written traditions 2gether has one... But when I found this info about Luther who believed in sola scriptura, I asked myself under what authority did Martin Luther even have to move any books in the Bible. Especially since we don't have an inspired index of the Canon, to tell us what books go in the Bible alone. But since the canon was already around 1300 yrs old, by the time Luther moved books, he literally ignored over a 1000 yrs of Christianity traditions, to say his authority was above every1 else, when he was just one man. But I believe Luther had 75 books in his German Canon, but I could be wrong. I wonder how many books are in this translation. So It would be very interesting if you could tell us how many books are in this German translation, & the list the exact order of the OT, & NT books ...
@dannylo5875
@dannylo5875 8 месяцев назад
Tell me more...the Ethiopian bible had 81 books. What books did Luther remove out.
@onlylove556
@onlylove556 8 месяцев назад
@@dannylo5875 that's a common misconception that Luther removed books out of his German translation. But technically he did move 7 OT books to the back of his German translation, that he copied from the original Canon, that did have the deuterocanonical books with the rest of the OT canon. Bc they were always considered canonical by Christian's, except for Luther who started making new rules. But I was saying what a lot of people 2day dont know, is that Luther did the same exact thing with his NT German Bible too. Luther made a new chronological order, & moved 5 NT books to the back of his Bible. But The ones I can remember off hand or the book of James, Hebrews, Revelation, & moved them all to the back changing the original chronological order. Of course we all know Revelation should always be the last book. But the point is Luther didn't want to keep these books in his canon at all, but he was advised to keep all the books. So he just decided to move 7 OT books, along with moving 5 NT books to. But he told his readers they can read all the books at their own discretion. Bc he said Their not inspired books, so basically read at your own discretion, & if you want to remove the books, go ahead, no big deal. Bc he didn't believe that they were the inspired word of God anyways. So basically Luther, who was just one man changed the chronological order for the OT, & the NT as well. He talked really bad about a lot of the NT books to, & he hated the Book of James, Luther called James "An Epistle of straw", bc it didn't line up with his ideology. Bc of James chapter 2 refutes Martin Luther's definition of Sola Fide. That's why a lot of people dont realize that the original 1611 KJV had 80 books in their canon. Bc throughout history there were always more than 66 books. The RU-vidr did a video about the 7 deuterocanonical books. He showed how it wasn't the reformers, or other Protestants who removed those OT books. It was the Bible society's that were only printing 66 books, to save money. So from 1820s, to 1880s all Protestants bibles started removing the apocrypha/ deuterocanonical books out of the original canon. So technically the 66 book canon, is actually only around 150 yrs old from the late 19th century. And people 2day think that all Christians throughout all antiquity were always reading 66 books only. But the evidence in history shows the complete opposite, that all throughout antiquity all Christians always had more than 66 books. But the big question we should all ask ourselves is what Authority did just one man have to move books, or want to remove any books, out of the word of God🤔... That's like the gnostics in the 1st, 2nd century that were claiming they were getting special Revelation from God, & handwriting books, when they were just forgeries, but pretending they were the inspired word of God. Bc if someone tried doing that 2day, we would call them a heretic, son of satan. But yet people praise Luther like he's some kind of hero. Food for thought my friend. This is why we must always study church history ourselves to seek the absolute truth. And trust no1, but test them all.. Lord bless u. 🙏🏼
@dannylo5875
@dannylo5875 8 месяцев назад
@@onlylove556 Kinda getting really angry with God because if he is so powerful, why doesn't he show up and show someone the original copy of the bible and have all the books brought back again. That needs to be in his Holy text and those also that were removed to be controversial...makes me think how the occultist sciences and books have the truth and the line runs between both. I read all sorts of spiritual themed books and have cross indexed and cross referenced many topics and many things I have discovered that have made me question the whole of Islam Judaism and Christianity and also a little of Zoarasterians... because a lot of Mesopotamian precursor, pan, proto literature is being decoded by AI and other advanced tools and also some have looked into these things and people understand how it's used.
@dannylo5875
@dannylo5875 8 месяцев назад
And practiced...what are narcissistic and bitchy God. Who wants to never show up fix everything and make known the whole truth...I had spiritual encounters and the being can show up and only show parts of information that you need...and all these spiritual beings do exist but act like they are not there and leave and go as they please...it's a Joke really.
@onlylove556
@onlylove556 8 месяцев назад
@@dannylo5875 Hey my friend we all go through that, but its going to build a fire in u, & make u want to seek for the truth. But it also can make u go the other way to, & become an full blown atheist, or an agnostic to. Bc it happened to me when I was a protestant, & became an atheist bc of all the confusion in protestantism, & all 1000s of diff religions in Christianity. So I ended up becoming an agnostic, I thought there could be a higher power. But I still made fun of all religions, & thought they were all created by governments to control the masses. I got sucked in the Zeitgeist movement, & things like that, but I wouldn't even fact check nothing I heard, to see if it was true historical info. I also had many Supernatural experiences to, until one night I had a very deep Supernatural experience, but that's a diff story. My point is I felt that same way as u, but after that last Supernatural experience I had, I knew the God of the Bible was true, I can't explain how, but I was pulled in that direction of Christianity. But I didn't want to commit myself to any church yet bc I still saw the confusion inside of Christianity, & protestantism. And I was always taught Catholicism, & Orthodox Christianity was just pagan Roman theology, & it was created by Constantine. 🤦🏻‍♂️ So I never even bothered to study Catholicism @ all. But later growing wiser in my age, I knew I had to fact-check everything I heard from everyone, & trust no1, but test them all. But when u start asking yourself questions, like where did the Bible come from, & who were the men that compiled all these diff books 2gether to canonized the Bible in one book in the 1st place. And start studying the manuscript copies of the Bible, & see how the books of the Bible are preserved throughout Antiquity. Then u will see how the Bible is perfectly preserved. There have been so many 1000s of liberal Scholars, & conservative Scholars, everybody's has always been trying to debunk the Bible & Christianity. But no1 has ever debunked Christianity geographically. And still to this very day no one has ever had to this very day geographically speaking. All the Bible wars have been proven geographically. They're so much info to prove the books of the Bible have been perfectly preserved, it's not even funny. Its Thee most preserved book in history hands down. Of course your ? really is how many books or in the Bible, well that is the debate isn't it. But what u 1st need to ask yourself is, if God is really true & Jesus Christ is his son, who died on the cross for us. That if that story is true, then wouldn't God be powerful enough to be able to preserve his one true church throughout antiquity. Bc the Bible teaches us is that there one church only, not 40,000 diff denominations, who can't agree on what the Gospel is. So if Jesus is true, & the 300 prophecies about the Messiah in the OT have been fulfilled in Jesus. Then that means Jesus built his church in the 1st century Matthew 16:18; then who were the men throughout history that were entrusted to his church throughout all antiquity 2 Timothy 2:2; & what was the name of that one true church. One thing I can tell u is it's not protestantism. Its between the two oldest ancient churches, & that's Catholicism, & Orthodox Christianity. That I can tell u without a doubt 💯. But u have to see it for yourself, never stop studying....
@Masowe.
@Masowe. 7 месяцев назад
I deeply disagree. The books in the apocrypha list where never accepted by the Jews (the Old testament books). The catholic church added them to justify some of thier practices. The new testament books in the apocrypha were never considered inspired even though people could read them. We need to know that the bible was not accessible to everyone so most people didnt know what they taught. The best way to learn what happened is to find why Martin Luther wanted to reform the church and what happened as the counter reformation.
@gclmedia
@gclmedia 7 месяцев назад
It's wonderful to see your interest in the historical context of the Bible! While you bring up some points, there are a few nuances in the comment that could be clarified. Firstly, the claim that the books in the Apocrypha were never accepted by the Jews is not entirely accurate. Some Jewish communities like the Ethiopian Jews did, in fact, accept certain books from the Apocrypha. Which makes the status of these books vary among different Jewish traditions. The assertion that the Catholic Church added these books to justify certain practices is a perspective but may oversimplify the historical process of canonization. The decision on the canon was a complex and gradual development that involved discussions within "different" Christian communities. Regarding the New Testament books in the Apocrypha, it's important to note that the term "Apocrypha" is used to refer to additional books found in some versions of the Old Testament, and there is also a New Testament Apocrypha as well. But the New Testament books are generally the same across most Christian denominations. Exploring Martin Luther's motivations for the Reformation and the events of the Counter-Reformation is indeed an insightful approach. However, it's valuable to consider a variety of historical sources to gain a comprehensive understanding of these complex and transformative periods in church history. Your interest in uncovering the historical context is commendable, and I encourage you to continue exploring various perspectives and historical accounts to enrich your understanding of the Bible's journey through time. Keep that curiosity alive!
@Masowe.
@Masowe. 7 месяцев назад
by your standards we can say Mormons are Christians since they consider some bible books to be perfect. I mean, we can never know 100% but what we can know is that if the church is divided on the whole source then at the very least there is something wrong with that whole source. The point i am making is there was never a universal agreement in those books to be inspired. Of course, there are some books that were once agreed upon by some small minorities which are now rejected by everyone About the reformations- they were very important. When you start describing them as some historical event that happened somewhere at some point, it looses the significance of if which is more important than whtat happened afterwards. Although i am 100% protestant, i do wish that this events are talked about with their weight to help eliminate the average catholic claims that are just false and their thoughts that they are hated by protestants. Thank you and take care@@gclmedia
@t.d6379
@t.d6379 6 месяцев назад
Stop lying OP
@t.d6379
@t.d6379 6 месяцев назад
The Holy Church didn't ADD them, Prots REMOVED them. FACT. You're bible isn't complete.
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