When Michael Owen's solitary season is mentioned, I think most people believe he flopped. Is this really true? Sources: Transfermarkt.com www.theguardia... www.theguardia... Wikipedia.org
The words of the media are not necessarily the reality of the fans. Me and all my Madridista friends at the time really liked Owen and thought he should play more. We didn't like the board's decision to sell him.
I watched pretty much every Madrid game that season, and he was definitely not a flop. Club politics (Raul) meant he got less minuites than he actually deserved. Goals to minutes tells you everything you need to know about his time at Madrid.
He was misused but he was also impatient. If he stayed there longer he would've given the coach no choice but to play. His goals to minutes ratio was excellent. Not to mention a less physical league, he could've sustained his body alot longer and maybe another Spanish team could've come in for him.
In Liverpool he was the golden boy...but in Galacticos there are players who shine better than you...but he wasnt a flop...he scored crucial goals during that season in Real
Ahead of Raul? You reckon, Madrid would eventually play Owen, ahead of Raul? You know before Ronaldo CR7, and actually Ronaldo CR9, Raul was THE best Madrid player, the legend from their own academy. I think Owen was right to leave.
This is the same thing that's happening to Real Madrid now. Perez's obsession to bring Mbappe is killing the team. When they had the chance to sign Kane Perez didn't go for him just coz he is obsessed to bring Mbappe and now they are without a good striker !!
Raul was always petty like that. He has helped to push out tons of talents because he perceived them as a threat, and who’s to say that’s bad for him? He ended up being an icon for the club. However, Perez was right in getting rid of Raul when he’s getting old.
Raul had little to do with him not playing. It was the change of formation that killed him, they went from 2 strikers to Ronaldo as a lone striker. Raul himself that season was played as a weird roaming left winger (hence the garbage stats), Guti and Beckham were played as defensive midfielders, they had defensive midfielders playing CB, CBs playing left back, the entire team was a complete mess... They tried to put Owen on the right wing, except they already had Figo there.
I thought he did well Grew up with him and Beckham as 2 of my favourite England players ever, England could have won world cup 2002 and should have won euro 2004
It's a shame people forgot so quick how good owen was before his injuries. just look at the finnishes he knew how to create angles to finnish even if it meant leaning and dropping to make contact a true striker. i had a liverpool fan the other day telling me prime vs prime mo salah is better than owen. now it's a valid opinion but i don't think mo salah next to zidane,ronaldo, raul could still perform the way owen did next to almost an entire squad of all time greats
That’s not really true. There was some bad feeling towards Beckham for a few years after his sending off at the 98 World Cup and his celebrity lifestyle didn’t help him but he proved himself many times with inspirational performances as England captain over the next few years and is highly respected by football fans in the UK.
@@jimelements7472 That was the press again...that sending off was as political as it gets...and we still goto Penalties with 10 men. Even as a Liverpool fan i've always felt Beckham was a class player.
Beckham flopped at Madrid except for his last season. He was a generational talent who was overhyped and underperformed for a good part of his career but was rated like an all the time great by the media. He is underrated by a set of football fans but hardly underrated in the grand scheme of things. He was very much overrated in the way his performances were rated
Welcome aboard chief. I don't see it happening any time soon, they don't seem keen on English players. Maybe someone like Phil Foden or Jude Bellingham has the Potential? Or Harry Kane if he moves to one of their favoured leagues and scores boat loads. But again, I'm not holding my breath 😂
@@flashbackfootball1367 I agree jude or Phil have a chance but I think there's only been perhaps 3 midfielders in recent times to have won it those being Zidane, kaka and modric 😬
Honestly English talent isn't bad at all, but compared to some of the absolute stars around the world, they're just not on the same level. Stats alone don't count for everything but equally it's very hard to compare an English striker to the stats of Benzema, Ronaldo, Messi, Lewandowski. Midfielders like Modric, De Bruyne, Xavi, Iniesta, Zidane, Kaka. I honestly don't think it's mean-spirited, it's just that objectively English players aren't excelling to that level. Foden is a good shout, Bellingham too, there's definitely cause for hope
Owen's issue was one of perception amongst the Madrid higher ups and the press., They didn't care he was a speed demon and scoring prodigy... they wanted a fantasy player [technically] which wasn't Owen's particular genius. Great vids btw but sort those endings out, lol! ; ) x
@ackfootball1367 No the narration is excellent. The abrupt ' Oh, it's ended..?!' is too harsh for such a well -put together production. Good luck (and I've $ubbed, btw : )
@@flashbackfootball1367 - My man you have some great stuff... just utilise a short catchy outro (simply use it as your signature endings ; ) All the best, champ and thank you for the vids : )
Good video. A lot of truths. Some players don't get accepted. Some don't fit in a system. No doubt Owen was a class striker. Just not a showman trick master
Did he also suffer from winning the Ballon d'Or in 2001. The Spanish press were incensed that Owen and not Raul won. I remember him at Madrid. He did well but don't forget Madrid didn't suit Owen. Far from his horses, only a couple of golf partners. If him and Bale were their together they'd have both been kings
To understand Spanish culture and media is to understand that if you’re not Latino, Mediterranean or African you’re gonna have a hard time, the jealousy in that country is off the charts
Raul was a petulant little man. Sad really that a club allowed a player to run the dressing room. As for AS, look at the state of La Liga now. Toxic reporting is a strange way of attracting the top players to the league.
Real Madrid do this to certain players and it back fires. If Madrid showed him love he would destroyed it. Funny how Madrid want Haaland Haaland no Henry or Suarez but Haaland still scores. 🤔
It’s not about injury that made him flopped. He was struggle to have any game time cause he has to compete with Raul Gonzalez and Ronaldo(9). Anh we both know how great they were back in the days.
It really wasn't Owens fault. He did what he needed to do. Unfortunately Continental football doesn't rate English footballers in the same league and they are right. English footballers just don't process the same skills as European or South American players. You could argue why are foreigner players flooding to play in the English premiership. Simple. Money talks.
Anyone who think he flopped didn't watch him back then. He just struggled to get minutes cos he had Raul (the golden boy of Madrid) and R9 (I don't need to say anything about R9) ahead of him. He was an unbelievable option Madrid had coming off the bench with his pace and goal threat and scored a fair amount of goals.
Yup. Owen's issue was one of perception amongst the Madrid higher ups and the press., They didn't care he was a speed demon and scoring prodigy... they wanted a fantasy player [technically] which wasn't Owens's particular genius.
You can't get into any kind of consistency when you are sub half of the time. If Owen had played every week he would've been on fire , Raul sounded threatened by Owens arrival and tried his hardest to screw it up for him . Selfish and not a team player .
He definitely didnt flop! He scored a lot of goals, he had great players ahead of him and didnt get the play time that he needed akd deserved, but he definitely didnt flop! Neither did Macca by the way :p
I'm a Newcastle fan, I saw him for Newcastle. It wasn't that Newcastle was a bad move for him, trust me. Look at his number, his goal to game ratio was still up there. The problem was not his quality, he still had it and was getting decent service to showcase his quality. The problem was his body was failing him, the biggest problem. He just wasn't ever fit for more than 5/6 games. The fans turned on him as well that didn't help. But the main issue was his fitness.
Honestly I didn’t know what Owen went through in Madrid, always thought he was a major problem. (Always cheering for Barcelona) I remember even Ronaldo had problems with both Raul, Morientes & Guti during the 2004/2005/2006 years. What a shame, even as a Barcelona fan I loved watching the galaticos! It was crazy times to be a football fan
Even when raul was playing badly the manger still would,nt start owen and when he played him he played well,i think he was given a raw raw deal at madrid
Owen was a great player just had his prime young from 17 to 25 he was brilliant and always exciting to watch thats a long time being one of the best players in the world
Yeah, maybe adapted was the wrong word, I'm meant more that in sporting terms he managed to adapt quickly and do reasonably well. Living in a hotel turned out to be a good decision in the end though.
He scored 13 goals from the bench. He was competing with Ronaldo and Raul and I don’t think he fit into the type of system they were playing so he was used as an impact player which he did a good job at but for michaels ego he was used to being the star and that’s what he wanted.
Zidane, Figo and Owen himself were gone by that time, and Ronaldo was starting to be way more injured, so there was actual room for Rude to play. 2004/2005 was just a fucking mess with 3 trainers, the unfortunate sell of Makelele who was the pivot who kept everything together and a shit town of world-class, but not fitting stars. They had Raul, Ronaldo, Owen, Morientens, Zidane, Figo, Beckham, Guti and Solari that season, good luck trying to make them all fit.
Micheal Owen a flop in madrid?? what a joke. 16 goals in 45 games 19 games as a sub. i love madrid but lets be honest they are one of the most political clubs in the world. managers come and go, they buy players like pokemon cards. he did perfectly well at madrid with Raul and Ronaldo also fighting for the lne striker that they play.
Yes, he did flop because he couldn't impose himself on the team and to the fans. The treatment that he has received from the Spanish press is basically the same that every player and manager receives if there is the slightest suspicion about him. That's why Real Madrid is Real Madrid! It has the most demanding fans and press in the world. You have to prove yourself and it doesn't matter where you come from. Real Madrid is royalty in football: it doesn't matter what you have achieved before because you are just a peasent who needs to prove yourself to be worthy. A season where they win La Liga but don't win the Champions is considered a failure. Just look at Mourinho who managed to break Barcelona's consecutive la liga wins, but "only" reached the semi-finals in the Champions. He was kicked out and considered by many as failure in Real Madrid.
Owen was arguably a victim of Perez's galactico policy. Instead of allowing a manager to sign who he needed instead of signing another "superstar" to sell more shirts and generate more buzz from the British media.
I didn't know that about Raul, complete unprofessional shit head behaviour at its finest. All things considered I thought even at the time he did well in spite of what he had to deal with.
Raúl was and is the best spaniard footballer in history and much better than Owen as second 9. Raúl deserved the ballon d or of Owen. That is why Owen failed his career in Madrid
