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Dietitian Reacts to ‘Is Being Fat a Choice!’ (My Answer Might SHOCK You…) 

Abbey Sharp
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@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
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@melanierosalez6989
@melanierosalez6989 7 месяцев назад
Abbey, re Set Point Theory about weight, I can't figure out how to ask this question well: I'm wondering about how the weight of my size small body when I was in my twenties work within the theory compared to my size XL body in my thirties. For many years I've held onto the hope that I get closer to my body that I knew and was a smaller size. It's hard to accept my obese body when it makes life a few degrees harder on a regular basis.
@angelmurphy2300
@angelmurphy2300 5 месяцев назад
Abbey I recently found your channel. I am 40 yrs old and have liver cirrhosis non alcoholic metabolic been a diabetic since I was in school. I'm looking for nutrition ideas for liver health. Everyone seems to disagree. Some say eat every 2 hrs because of malnourishment issues some say intermittent fasting is best. Some say Mediterranean diet Some say keto HELP!
@KatMTeach
@KatMTeach 7 месяцев назад
I think if everyone in the world ate a balanced diet and moved their bodies, there would still be a wide range of body shapes and sizes!
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
1000%
@Taywanee
@Taywanee 7 месяцев назад
There would be, but no one would be morbidly obese lol
@Taywanee
@Taywanee 7 месяцев назад
@meanjustine8266it still comes down to a calorie deficit. People with health conditions can still lose weight.
@Taywanee
@Taywanee 7 месяцев назад
@meanjustine8266 it scientifically is
@karynstouffer3562
@karynstouffer3562 7 месяцев назад
This is true, to an extent. Some foods do not grow in some places. They must be shipped in, and that adds cost. Sometimes, that cost becomes prohibitive. Transportation to the places that sell food becomes prohibitive, especially when they're farther than walking distance. There are a lot of factors.
@aikanae1
@aikanae1 7 месяцев назад
One thing I rarely hear addressed is poverty. Majority of kids live below the poverty line - has anyone looked at food boxes and choices in schools? Very little fresh foods, produce or meats. Highly processed with the bulk of calories coming from simple carbs. Taste is a matter of habit. There is a societal component to the epidemic of obesity and diabetes that should be addressed. Why did McDonald's take salads away? Why are salads the most expensive thing on a menu? Why do food boxes never, ever include salads?
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
Yep these are all important pieces of the conversation
@jennasaisquoi5174
@jennasaisquoi5174 7 месяцев назад
Children who experience food insecurity might encounter a meal and overeat due to the fear of not eating again for a while. They won't know when or where their next meal will come from, so overindulgence becomes habitual, possibly into adulthood.
@manda6299
@manda6299 7 месяцев назад
This. I was raised in severe poverty and when I got out of it I ate so much and gained so much weight and developed binge eating disorder along with bulimia. People don’t understand what poverty can do to a person, let alone a developing child and what it will do to their future.
@krystleboss8573
@krystleboss8573 7 месяцев назад
Because McDonalds salads had more calories than a Big Mac (not saying that a Big Mac is better or worse b/c it depends on how you’re judging it).
@aikanae1
@aikanae1 7 месяцев назад
@@krystleboss8573 if you turned the salad into a ranch dressing soup. Big Mac's have little valuable nutrition, more sodium and fats for the entire day.
@jorr107
@jorr107 7 месяцев назад
I was shocked and disappointed to hear that young lady justify shame as healthy and sustainable. I'm so glad you addressed that, Abbey. I really appreciate your work and this video!
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
right?! thank you
@MeloniousThunk
@MeloniousThunk 7 месяцев назад
That also stood out to me. It made me sad for her. I wonder what stories she is telling herself that led her to those beliefs. Her contempt for obese people, dressed up as concern for their health, looks a lot like a displacement of her self-contempt around her own body issues onto a “safer” target. Not the first time I’ve seen this toxic attitude. I can’t stand concern trolling for this reason.
@laulau194
@laulau194 7 месяцев назад
So true, but when both traditional and social media love to latch onto the examples of people who are strongly motivated by shame to lose weight and celebrates them, it's understandable why people find that narrative appealing...totally ignoring both the scientific evidence base and the simple step of looking around you and thinking for a second - if being shamed was all it took to get people to lose weight, no one would be fat!
@srslyawkward3095
@srslyawkward3095 7 месяцев назад
The people motivated by shame are the exception. That's what makes them noteworthy. Also, reality TV tends to manufacture more drama/shame, because they know That's what gets them viewers.
@srslyawkward3095
@srslyawkward3095 7 месяцев назад
Oh, also #2, we don't see what happens after the cameras leave. There was a big study done a few years back on The Biggest Loser contestants, and almost all had regained their weight. It's not a sustainable model of health.
@dl744
@dl744 7 месяцев назад
Love the phrasing, "You can't hate yourself into being healthier." You can hate yourself into being skinner, but until you appreciate your body simply for being your body, you won't feel comfortable in it or healthy. Grace for yourself is how you make positive changes
@arinaira1417
@arinaira1417 7 месяцев назад
@taylorhillard4868
@taylorhillard4868 6 месяцев назад
I dont know about hating, but i know you can certainly spite your way into health. Spite is the strpngest human force afterall, lmao
@RisaPlays
@RisaPlays 5 месяцев назад
My self-hatred contributed to more weight gain. So maybe it can work for some people, but it's the opposite for others.
@syd755
@syd755 7 месяцев назад
As someone who's been "overweight"/fat/plus size my whole life, I knew I would not be able to emotionally handle the original 40-min video Jubilee posted. Because the topic is so charged, biased, and saturated with misinformation, I knew there would be harmful beliefs expressed that would just ruin my day lol. Thank you for allowing for me to engage with this topic in an empathetic and EMPIRICALLY-BASED way!
@TheCatWitch63
@TheCatWitch63 7 месяцев назад
I’m so tired of (mostly skinny) people centering people’s whole identity around weight. There are many other characteristics that should be nurtured, encouraged or promoted that might be even more important than body weight. Also, being skinny doesn’t necessarily equal being healthy. I’m underweight due to an illness, but you wouldn’t notice it because I look very healthy. However I have been very close to losing my life because of my health issues, and I feel embarrassed, even a bit angry/upset, when people compliment me on my weight.
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
ABSOLUTELY. this is why we should NEVER comment on peoples weight loss.
@Joee003
@Joee003 7 месяцев назад
I agree with you, but I'd like to add that the whole F.A. movement is exactly that: fat people making their body size their whole identity and personality. I've never met a disabled person who made their disability the center of their life, yet fat activists do just that with their weight. People on both end of the spectrum are obsessed with body size because we live in a superficial world.
@Contained_enjoyment
@Contained_enjoyment 7 месяцев назад
I agree with Joee003. I don't think advocating for normalcy is a good way to go about it. But also, I'm one of the forever and always skinny people, it's actually very difficult to gain weight for me. However I have so many deficiencies, I believe the main problem is food availability and lower income households. I grew up poor, I'm still in the lower class, and it is so expensive for a family of four to eat correctly.
@ggjr61
@ggjr61 6 месяцев назад
@@Joee003The FA movement is embarrassing to fat people but it’s a backlash reaction to the enormous amount of discrimination and harassment fat people (in general) face. It really needs to stop though it’s definitely not helping.
@LouisaClare
@LouisaClare 6 месяцев назад
@@Joee003that’s just want you see, that’s not what we are doing.
@nikitalenzo6219
@nikitalenzo6219 7 месяцев назад
THIS is advocacy. Thank you for using your privilege to bring awareness and compassion to people who’ve been silenced, stigmatized and shamed in this conversation. Thank you for educating others on food deserts/accessibility of food, sensitivity around body talk, genetic predisposition, etc. Been through eating disorder treatment 3x… and know many more who’ve lost their lives to disordered eating than to being overweight.
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely!
@bethaniejify
@bethaniejify 7 месяцев назад
All that I know is that when I’ve been under a certain weight, it has taken all my energy and will to keep it there. It’s been that way my whole life. I have always been athletic and I ride my bike as transportation, but I’m still a large woman. However, at 54, having given up on trying to have a diet, I’m having a great life instead. ❤
@LoriDawn6
@LoriDawn6 7 месяцев назад
And then menopause happens and everything changes! It feels like I’m re-learning how my body responds to food, exercise, etc.
@TracyMclaughlin-je6of
@TracyMclaughlin-je6of 7 месяцев назад
Yeap, it’s a whole new ball game and learning what works from scratch.
@happycommuter3523
@happycommuter3523 6 месяцев назад
YES! If I ate what I eat now, back when I had a period, I would be in the hospital from malnutrition. I was very skinny as a young woman, and my body was very sensitive to changes in food intake and exercise. I could drop an entire dress size by skipping dessert for a month. Stress was another appetite killer. At one point, I was so thin my parents were seriously worried about me. That all changed after menopause. I have to diet very stringently just to lose a few pounds. The weight comes on very quickly now. I just focus on eating a well rounded diet, avoiding salt/ sugar because of blood pressure issues, getting enough protein/ calcium for bone health, and exercising as much as possible, a mix of cardio, strength, and flexibility. Sleeping adequately and managing stress are also crucial. It really is like learning to live in a completely different body.
@innocentnemesis3519
@innocentnemesis3519 7 месяцев назад
I’ve always been skinny. I could eat McDonald’s every day and gain a marginal amount of weight, but still fall within my normal range. To say that the choices I make in the face of my personal obstacles will have the same outcome as someone in a different body is so reductive and absolutist. Bodies come in all shapes and sizes!
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
thanks for sharing!! Bodies are so diverse
@soybean3423
@soybean3423 7 месяцев назад
I was the same! Until I started taking medication that made me crave food 3 times more often and 3 times more strongly. Gained more than 40 kgs in two years... but lost already half of that in a little more than a year ^^
@cbpd89
@cbpd89 6 месяцев назад
My husband is the same way! He is fairly active, which helps, but it's not like he's watching what he's eating. It doesn't matter how much dessert he eats, he doesn't gain weight. The whole "you can't outrun a bad diet" definitely doesn't apply to him 🤣 I, on the other hand, do intensive exercise and calorie restrictions and I maybe lose 5 pounds after 6 months of effort. Not worth it to only eat 1400 cal a day for a year and have nothing to show for it! I might as well enjoy my life and just focus on dong activities and eating meals I like in moderation and no numbers 😁
@kochfeemiri663
@kochfeemiri663 6 месяцев назад
My Roommate is the Same! He‘s thin, but eat only „Bad“ foods. And i am trying so hard to make Good choices and i am fat 🫠
@sheridanvance7426
@sheridanvance7426 21 день назад
@Miaow610
@Miaow610 7 месяцев назад
As with everything in life, it's complicated
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
absolutely
@danastonerock
@danastonerock 7 месяцев назад
Yup
@vapeck42
@vapeck42 7 месяцев назад
I was fat shamed through out my teen years and it lead to an eating disorder. But I never got really skinny. I have always been over weight. I am currently on, well, not really a diet, more of a change of habit. I am also taking weight loss medication, that I also need for other reasons, and that is helping. I am doing this for my health and not because anyone is shaming me into doing it. I don't expect to become skinny, but a moderate amount of weight loss is the goal. I am down 27lbs and am very happy about it. So, yay me!
@saint1563
@saint1563 6 месяцев назад
congrats! That sounds awesome
@kbrennan3836
@kbrennan3836 7 месяцев назад
Lauren won the genetic lottery without ever buying a ticket, and now nothing will convince her that she's not a self-made woman who pulled herself up by her bootstraps.
@jenem9618
@jenem9618 7 месяцев назад
I actually suspect she hasn't hit the genetic lottery, and I think that's precisely why she's so smug. To me, it actually sounds more like she has an unhealthy view of weight, food, and herself-- and that managing her weight through this unhealthy lens is a lot of emotional "hard work". She seemingly therefore considers herself morally superior for doing that "work", when in reality, the main reason it's so hard isn't because it has to be, it's because she has serious emotional issues to work through. In other words, it seems she thinks she's so much stronger than everyone else because, for her, maintaining her weight is physically and emotionally difficult and takes up way more bandwidth in her brain than it should-- and she doesn't realize that's not everyone's experience.
@OCDandme123
@OCDandme123 6 месяцев назад
I agree with this take except I think she has a lot of the same cravings obese people have and is more resilient hence she is so entitled because when she sees obese people it's a reflection of what she could've been
@chudpunter
@chudpunter 7 месяцев назад
the poverty aspect can't really be overstated. even outside of a full-blown "food desert", it can be absolutely crushing. I spent about a decade quite poor, mostly doing crappy retail work. I had good food available near me in stores. sometimes that's what I purchased. but having a miserable and exhausting job and never enough in my bank account made it *a lot* harder to _consistently_ eat healthier foods, much less get regular exercise. not impossible, but a lot harder. so I gained weight. which made me feel crappier, which made healthier choices even harder. then I got a better job. finally had more money, more spare time, and the mental and physical energy do most of my own cooking and get regular exercise. what do you know... most of that weight came off in the first few months with very little conscious effort on my part. it wasn't impossible for me to make good choices previously, but doing that consistently, especially during periods of extra high stress, was literal orders of magnitude more difficult than it is now.
@forrestfey
@forrestfey 7 месяцев назад
The stress alone will make you garn weight.
@OCDandme123
@OCDandme123 6 месяцев назад
So you didn't just make good choices you had good choices to make
@kelwil977
@kelwil977 7 месяцев назад
Hi Abby. I’m a family nurse practitioner in primary care in a federally qualified health center. This means I provide health care to people in very predominantly. I have always appreciated your no guilt, additive approach to nutrition. To your point about choice related to weight I have patients who have to walk or take the bus to the clinic to see me. They do not have the privilege to drive as they don’t have a car to get groceries further away from their homes. Obesity is related to poverty so our continued placement of the responsibility for it on the individual allows the American government to continue ignoring public services that would create a healthier population.
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
Well said
@forrestfey
@forrestfey 7 месяцев назад
Also what the stress of being poor would do to your body.
@legobuilders6133
@legobuilders6133 6 месяцев назад
"Having to walk to the bus" is a privilege. In Europe we do it all the time, also for groceries (or bike fe..) . It is good to walk. It is bad to drive everywhere. Really really strange comment about walking in post on obesity and health. People who walk to the grocery store will be healthier than people who drive there. Nevertheless, when you have poor mobility because of health issues, good care should be provided at home for a minimal cost (as is being done here in my European country). So I do agree with you on that if that is what you meant.
@gareth6525
@gareth6525 6 месяцев назад
​@@legobuilders6133they didn't say the walk to the the bus. The said they have to walk to the clinic, or use the bus. I'd imagine that's not the greatest feeling in the world since they're already going to the clinic for whatever reason. So you gotta read properly before you make comments like that my dude
@legobuilders6133
@legobuilders6133 6 месяцев назад
@@gareth6525 Read my entire comment until the end "Dude".
@karynstouffer3562
@karynstouffer3562 7 месяцев назад
I sincerely appreciate this video, and your comments! As someone who has been on both ends of the weight journey, I can attest that shaming is never, let me repeat, NEVER, the proper "encouragement" to get someone to change how and what they eat. I have had such disordered eating patterns that my body doesn't know what to do any more. I'm now on a "fairly restrictive" diet. My insulin resistance (I have PCOS, so that's a given) has ramped up with menopause. I've been diagnosed as pre-diabetic. I'm struggling very hard to control it with diet alone, as I really don't want to take another damn pill. To keep my blood glucose under control, I have to severely limit my carb intake. Do you know how hard that is? I can't go fully keto because I don't digest that much fat efficiently. That much fat Hurts. Actual, physical pain. So, here I am. A middle aged woman, on the verge of being type 2. It's truly a struggle to stay nourished, lose weight, keep blood glucose control, and have to read labels constantly, all while being shamed for being overweight, AND have family try to feed me pasta dinners. I want to hide.😢
@anitafoss2133
@anitafoss2133 7 месяцев назад
@WiseMindNutrition
@WiseMindNutrition 7 месяцев назад
facts!!
@wendym2544
@wendym2544 7 месяцев назад
I'm sorry you're struggling so. I wish you lived close to me and I would help you for free. But you'd have to be willing (if necessary) to change your mindset and change a few other things.
@karynstouffer3562
@karynstouffer3562 7 месяцев назад
@@wendym2544 I am actually doing fairly well, thanks. I was just stating how much of a struggle it is. It should be easier. There is no singular, trustworthy, source of information, unless you can afford a dietary specialist, or have insurance that will pay for one. I have neither, as my work insurance hasn't kicked in yet. Even then, you're going to get differing opinions from different professionals. This one will suggest white rice, in moderation, is good. Um, no, not for me. I've already discovered that. And, OMG, if you look at what they tell you to eat, you would be doing nothing but snacking all day. I can't eat that much food. I can't eat right after I get up, never have been able to. I don't like snacking at night, unless I have a very early dinner. See what I mean? Too many med pros state advice that is contrary to what I am able to do. Reading labels is aggravating. All the manufacturers use some arbitrary "serving size." They don't even always follow what the USDA suggests. Aggravating to have to measure everything. Argh...! Sorry went on a tangent. 😏
@WhatsBliss
@WhatsBliss 7 месяцев назад
The thing that got me about that one girls comments about choices is that there are people who do everything she talked about-see doctors, eat whole foods, avoid junk food, move around all the time-but are still "overweight" and probably always will be. The only way they can achieve skinniness is through unhealthy behaviors like starvation, over exercising, and risky medical interventions. And even then there is no guarantee those changes will stick, be sustainable, or support a healthy lifestyle. Can people make healthy choices? Sure. Will others be able to see those choices by looking at them? Absolutely not.
@nady2296
@nady2296 7 месяцев назад
Thank you. I'm not overweight but I have too much belly fat and it's a real struggle to lose there. Im constantly counting calories and I've been going to the gym since October, not seeing much results on my belly.It's just genetically the last place where I will lose fat and I'm balancing a careful act of believing one day I can be skinnier and not going into underweight territories. I have friends that don't work out and never think about food and have flat stomachs. And we are so led to believe that our value lies in how skinny we are that I thought and I'm still thinking that I'm not doing enough and I'm not "worthy" enough. So even though I'm not in the exact same situation as overweight people and that each person is unique, I can understand the struggle of efforts vs results.
@WhatsBliss
@WhatsBliss 7 месяцев назад
​@@nady2296 Sending you love. You and you're body are worthy of love and care, no matter the shape. You don't need to do anything to qualify for it. So be kind to yourself, belly fat and all.
@nady2296
@nady2296 7 месяцев назад
@@WhatsBliss Thank you 🙏
@jlhn
@jlhn 7 месяцев назад
Definitely I myself, used to be a very fat kid, and my mom forced me to go through extreme diets where I was basically starving, of course everything was with a doctor's approval who didn't care about my health, but did care about me being skinny Nothing worked, and at the end I ended up eating at night when nobody watched me because of how hungry I constantly was, thankfully my mom seemed to see the light and stopped starving me Then I lost a lot of weight without doing anything. You want to know what happened? Puberty Literally my body had to change completely from top to bottom for me to lose weight, and I didn’t do anything! I didn’t exercise, or do a diet, and still I got very skinny. So for me, it's very obvious that being fat is not much of a choice Nowadays I actually want to gain weight to build muscle mass, but believe it or not, no matter how much I eat, it's extremely hard for me to gain weight 😅
@OCDandme123
@OCDandme123 6 месяцев назад
Key words CALORIE DEFICIT
@sallygreenfield6991
@sallygreenfield6991 7 месяцев назад
I've been body shamed my whole entire life. I've literally never been at a weight where someone left it alone. I no longer have disordered eating patterns, but I'm definitely at a very unhealthy weight and terrified to do anything about it because of my past with extremely disordered eating. Shaming is NOT GOOD. No matter what the "in time" results are. I've been at a "healthy" weight with eating patterns that literally could have killed me, largely due to comments I received from well-meaning but poorly informed friends and family.
@kalisue6573
@kalisue6573 7 месяцев назад
Mostly no. Even if it is a “choice” it’s so very ingrained in your being that it becomes not a choice. How you were raised, your income, your family history, etc etc it’s hard to separate it completely down to just choices. My friends who are thin eat less, they just do it automatically and always have. They don’t desire more. Obviously that’s not everyone and some people struggle really hard to maintain thinness BUT for some people, those choices are easier, sometimes so much that they really don’t feel like choices at all.
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
absolutely. exactly what i said as well
@taylorhillard4868
@taylorhillard4868 6 месяцев назад
Everything is still a choice. I used to be fat and chose to not be that way anymore. I had to make choices to work around my food addiction. I had to completely change my life, but my health was more important than the things I had to miss out on for the rest of my life. Pasta is not worth my life. Candy bars are not worth my life. No food is worth an early death, despite how happy they could make me in the moment. And if that requires breaking relationships, changing jobs, moving to a new place to live, or any other life altering change, then so be it. There is always a choice. Just because its a hard choice doesn't make it not a choice.
@OCDandme123
@OCDandme123 6 месяцев назад
True I believe in this
@OCDandme123
@OCDandme123 6 месяцев назад
It's good not to oversimplify it but still it is a choice I have empathy and sympathy though
@kalisue6573
@kalisue6573 6 месяцев назад
@@taylorhillard4868 right which is why I said “mostly”. I just think it’s kind of a stupid title and question, honestly. Because it oversimplifies things. Everything is a choice, but when you look closer, is it really? Yes, but also no. Depending on who you are and your circumstances. Most of us started being fat when we were kids. Was that a choice? Well yeah, because every action is a choice by your brain, right? But also no cause you were a kid not in charge fully of your own life and actions. Well now your body is addicted to certain foods, has a f-ed up metabolism, engrained habits and relationships around food, emotional issues, and a set point your body now likes to be at. So now you’re an adult and yeah it’s a choice now, so you can fight that by making choices. That’s true, but it’s so much more complicated than that. And your choices have more weight and burden than someone who didn’t have those circumstances. So yeah it’s a choice, but not in the way it’s presented when you simply saying “being fat or skinny is a choice!”
@user-xg8qj4nz2h
@user-xg8qj4nz2h 6 месяцев назад
"Just drive 40 minutes to get groceries" bold to assume everyone has a car and a licence
@clairbear1234
@clairbear1234 6 месяцев назад
And time, and babysitting
@francesgiblin463
@francesgiblin463 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for creating safe place to learn about diet and nutrition in a respectful manner.
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
Always!
@mayhem875
@mayhem875 7 месяцев назад
I use to be smaller when I was in high school then I gained weight. I didn’t really like how I looked so I started to take steps to lose weight, everyone was so excited for me. I lost 20 pounds and felt pretty good, but then people would be like “is that all? Don’t you wanna lose more?” Even though I had met my personal goal, there was this pressure to just keep losing weight, like I needed to be the same size I was when I was 14. I don’t think I need to weigh the same at 25. No one cared about my health or my doctors advice, they just wanted to see the skinner version of me, it was like the progress I did make didn’t even matter if they still had to look at a fatter version of me.
@jadastricker569
@jadastricker569 7 месяцев назад
Love your take on everything. Also, the 40-45 minute drive they may not have gas money for. It's hard. Additionally, we have a honest food dessert in northern Canada with our communities out there. Try flying in food, not to mention all the PTSD from the trauma these people have been put through. Our last residential school was closed in 1996. Real issues, its not always a choice. I should be positive! We are making leaps and bounds with how we view people and in our health. We are going to figure out how to honour and bless each other and celebrate the wins we all get in life. The skinny, the fat and all the in between.
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
so well said
@forrestfey
@forrestfey 7 месяцев назад
And to drive you have to own a car.
@mockingbirdnightingale7169
@mockingbirdnightingale7169 7 месяцев назад
This is such a tough one. I was obese my ENTIRE life, until 40, when I had weight loss surgery. Although I now spend an extreme (probably unattainable to 99% of people) amount of time on fitness and nutrition, in order to maintain a TINY body size, I find it SO EASY to do, because I am doing it from a thin point. Doing the things I do in a fat body is extraordinarily difficult. I'm not talking about mental aspects. I mean the physical tasks. If you were to strap all the weight I lost onto my body today, I would almost certainly not be able to walk. I think people who have never been morbidly obese do not understand the sheer amount of difficult physical labor and energy exerted in transporting the body and trying to get through necessary tasks. The amount of energy I have now is so excessive and absurd that I find it annoying at times. I never learned in my younger years how to waste energy because I had no extra. Now I wake up at 5am bouncing off the walls and don't stop moving all day, because THERE IS NOTHING TO MOVE. I feel weightless, all the time. My body is barely even there. It is INCREDIBLE. It feels like being unchained. It feels like I was treading water for 40 years and then someone dragged me onto the beach. I cannot describe to a never-obese person what the actual, material weight of 150+ extra pounds stuck to your body 24/7 for decades does to you as a human being. All I can say is that while it might have been a series of choices, to an extent, that got me there, the choices I took to get out of it (surgery, weighing every gram of food, gym for hours every day, running, hiking, walking to/from work and everywhere else, passing up every temptation for 4 years) were "hard" but like... the kind of hard that it is when you want to go to bed but you know you need to brush your teeth. The next time you wonder what xyz is like for an obese person, strap 150 lbs to your body for a week and then ask your question again. Except instead of a week we can be stuck like that for decades. Absolutely nothing is worth the torment of being smothered under hundreds of pounds. It's offensive even to suggest it.
@Alicia-kg3hs
@Alicia-kg3hs 7 месяцев назад
Just want to say very few people can afford weight loss surgery.
@mockingbirdnightingale7169
@mockingbirdnightingale7169 7 месяцев назад
@@Alicia-kg3hs and very few people can afford to devote as many hours to fitness and nutrition per day as I do which is why I said in the beginning of my comment that it's unattainable to 99% of people. I know plenty of people who have had WLS and no one has results like mine because they didn't also put in insane hours into it like I do, because like I said, very few people can. Even people who can afford WLS or get it on insurance can't necessarily treat fitness and nutrition like a full time job.
@legobuilders6133
@legobuilders6133 6 месяцев назад
you do realize that carrying 100's of extra pounds costs hundreds/ thousand of extra calories? So to even maintain a plus size body you need to eat an enormous amount of food extra in comparison to en smaler body. Everything you do is burning a lot more calories. That is why it is easier to loose weight when you are obese: with a normal calorie intake of 2000 calories per day you lose weight very fast because your basic metabolism is much higher.
@mockingbirdnightingale7169
@mockingbirdnightingale7169 6 месяцев назад
@@legobuilders6133 obviously anyone who has lost a substantial amount of weight and kept it off knows about calories lol
@adelina1531
@adelina1531 7 дней назад
@@Alicia-kg3hsnot really the point, not all obese people can lose weight or afford surgery but almost all people can be prevented from becoming obese with proper education and decent grocery stores in a convenient enough location which the government needs to put resources into supplying for everyone. i think more so her point is that being obese is objectively a terrible way to live and it’s not just outside judgment that makes it bad like some fat people try to argue.
@denisea8968
@denisea8968 7 месяцев назад
I struggled with an E.D. the most around the ages of 11-21, my average weight was 145 which is considered overweight on the BMI scale. Because I was not considered underweight or even a “normal” weight, I didn’t think my Eating Disorder was even real- until I started to have severe dental and gut health issues. All of that to say, at 25 I’m still recovering from a horrific relationship with food and believe my weight regulation is solely due to the fact that I refuse to touch or even look at particular food groups. Even if someone LOOKS healthier, there is also chance that maintaining that weight is taking a toll on their mental wellbeing
@StoneSaysHello
@StoneSaysHello 7 месяцев назад
Not every choice is available to every person.
@forrestfey
@forrestfey 7 месяцев назад
So true
@clairbear1234
@clairbear1234 6 месяцев назад
Having lived in multiple neighborhoods within my city over a decade- it really is noticeable how the environment impacts ones choices- what foods you might tend to go for, if you feel safe exercising outside or if there is an affordable positive place to exercise.
@stellarae8257
@stellarae8257 7 месяцев назад
like everything else, this conversation needs tons of nuance. there are choices you *likely* have control over that will impact your weight, like whether you have 3 ice cream scoops instead of 2 or if you'll push yourself for the extra 2 reps in a set. there are also things you have no control over, like if you need a medicine that makes you gain weight or if you spend 16 hours a day working and dont have time to do anything physically for yourself outside of that. one thing i will say though, is that science needs to be listened to. you can have an opinion like "skinny shaming is as bad as fat shaming" but you cant have an opinion that "shame is a healthy motivation tool" because it factually isn't. i'd also argue that the difference is that i've never heard of someone not getting their medical issues looked into because theyre skinny, where as countless overweight and obese people are ignored just because of their size. both hurt the individual greatly and can be deadly, but one is a systemic problem that kills people on a large societal scale. criticizing peoples bodies and making assumptions based off of them is just so unproductive and unhealthy. you cant automatically know everything about someone's health from the outside.
@cristywyndham-shaw5111
@cristywyndham-shaw5111 7 месяцев назад
Shaming someone because of their size is never a good thing. Sorry Lauren, but it just adds to the problem in the long run.
@gaywrestlingclasses4724
@gaywrestlingclasses4724 7 месяцев назад
Probably the hardest video to watch I've seen you do. As a personal trainer I've felt in recent years when I've been struggling with my own motivation is the question, why do I want to be here? So much of what we face as trainers is weight loss focused and adherence is the biggest challenge. I've also changed my own attitudes about being overweight with much of my attitude has changed toward favoring ability and activity. It really only takes a couple weeks of increasing activity for your endurance to improve and with it is heart rate variability (which is among the biggest determining factors for survival of a heart attack). When we become more active our mood, attitude, outlook, etc all improve as does insulin demand within cells. Same is true when I eat better, I feel different. High nutrient foods with great satiety factors make you feel better. I think that if we focus more on how positive changes make us feel, how much more able we feel, then we are much more prone to want to make the changes, to stick to the changes. None of that comes from body shaming and I think lifestyle changes which make us happier is where it's at.
@raeb84
@raeb84 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for another great video. I get so mad when people just reduce weight down to “choice.” Everything is a choice if that’s the case, but would they say that it is just a “choice” to get over trauma? Or to stop being depressed is just a “choice”? Or, heck, if you want to be taller that’s just the choices you make? Nothing in life is strictly choices you make - if it was just down to choice, I’d have a mansion with a pool and 50 dogs, but that isn’t reality. Outside (or other internal) factors, that are not within an individual’s entire control, are always part of the conversation when it comes to anything in life. We don’t all live in perfect bubbles with no effect from the outside world.
@sdennen
@sdennen 7 месяцев назад
Exactly! Many people who say everything is "choice" and "hard work" seem to have benefited from an awful lot of good luck. They can't see it because they can't get past the concept that their lived experience is not *everyone's* lived experience 😓
@OCDandme123
@OCDandme123 6 месяцев назад
Not always sometimes they deal with the most difficult obstacles and circumstances and say it's a choice because they've become self righteous and desensitized due to being an outlier
@OCDandme123
@OCDandme123 6 месяцев назад
And many of them see themselves in fat people I know I did
@Rose-dj6hc
@Rose-dj6hc 7 месяцев назад
Abby I love you you saved me from my Ed I was depressed for not eating enough like I just ate two times a day and that's all and now I'm so much better thanks to you I'm feeling happier this days because of you💞❤
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
Aw I am so happy to hear
@sarahneubert3377
@sarahneubert3377 7 месяцев назад
I’m so glad you reviewed this! I was looking forward to it. And i thought your take was super interesting, respectful and helpful.
@jessinf123
@jessinf123 7 месяцев назад
Hi Abbey - I’d love to see a collab with a Marketing expert to discuss the positioning of “health” foods
@arescue
@arescue 7 месяцев назад
Maybe The Financial Diet
@racatiwood
@racatiwood 7 месяцев назад
I kinda get the vibe that Lauren puts most of her self-worth on staying slender
@ChantelleHale
@ChantelleHale 7 месяцев назад
She absolutely thinks that she's slender because she works for it, and assumes everybody who is fat just doesn't work as hard as she does. Every time a clip of her was shown, she was saying something completely uninformed that showed a massive lack or respect for anybody who doesn't look like her.
@racatiwood
@racatiwood 7 месяцев назад
@@ChantelleHale I do think she made an effort to not judge people to their face on camera, but was rather unsuccessful at it. In a way, a lot of it is cultural.
@gloriaikeji9477
@gloriaikeji9477 7 месяцев назад
I just want to say thank you abbey for using your platform in the best way. I’m so happy I found you on tik tok. I have learned so much and it has help r me to slowly deconstruct my binge eating/diet and culture habits I was taught growing up and through my own mother with ED. Thank you for using your voice to also explain all factors, like poverty and poc and culture and not finishing the human experience!
@happycommuter3523
@happycommuter3523 6 месяцев назад
Fantastic video-so compassionate and intelligent regarding an incredibly fraught and sometimes controversial topic. You’ve picked up another subscriber!
@BeYounique...Maryanne
@BeYounique...Maryanne 6 месяцев назад
Abbey, you are such a breath of fresh air! I just found your videos and I love them! The thin woman in the red dress is annoying. You don't shame people, you INSPIRE! Thanks Abbey for giving a voice to those who are overweight. I was thin all my life, then gained 15 pounds when I hit 50, so now I'm a medium/size 6 instead of small. (And I eat all clean too, everything fresh, I just gained -- period). The doctors say I'm in a good weight range. I'm 60 with perfect blood work and on no medications. Yet, interesting how some thin people see me as "fat" and aren't afraid to let me know either.
@Bee37351
@Bee37351 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for another great video Abbey! I think weight has so much more to do with how your body processes it than what you eat. If you’re breathing in chemicals because you’re living in a toxic house, your metabolism and organs will eventually give in and you won’t process food appropriately. Leading to weight gain. Thats what happened to me. I had to work hard to maintain my weight in my old home, but now that I have cleaned up my environment I don’t have to any more, and I can eat pretty much anything I want .
@ebonitompkins
@ebonitompkins 7 месяцев назад
This can also be true in a stressful environment!
@JustFionaGallagher
@JustFionaGallagher 7 месяцев назад
Fat person here. This was surprisingly good to watch. I’ve watched you for years and generally enjoy this sort of discourse. I highly recommend the podcast Maintenance Phase to anyone who enjoys unpacking diet culture nonsense.
@catseatingpeople
@catseatingpeople 6 месяцев назад
I absolutely love these videos for my ED recovery journey!!! Whenever I’m feeling like pursuing some diet culture BS I just pop on your videos. Watching you kindly yet incisively review diet culture concepts keeps me on track in my own journey and avoid falling back into old, toxic patterns!
@cjtorres5917
@cjtorres5917 7 месяцев назад
Some insane privilege going on in that panel.
@kasial210
@kasial210 7 месяцев назад
Ridiculous statement
@linochka64
@linochka64 7 месяцев назад
From the obese side
@manda6299
@manda6299 7 месяцев назад
This was a wonderful video Abbey- super insightful and I appreciate your professional input. As a fat person I can say that there is SO much that goes into WHY people are fat, why they may not want or can’t lose weight,etc. me for instance- I grew up in severe poverty( like I didn’t get to eat for days at a time ). Then when my mom died when I was 11 and I was in a healthier more stable environment I began binging on all the food I could get because I didn’t know when I would get it next, that then lead to weight gain and shaming from my family and peers that then turned into my bulimia. I still suffer to this day with it. I’ve been fat, I’ve been skinny, and now I’m fat again. I have a lot of privilege now as an adult so I am working on my weight and that is my ability and choice but I recognize that SO many people can’t do that and THATS OKAY. It’s not my body to be concerned about. Bodily autonomy is everything and I wish people would stop making fat people feel like they don’t deserve to even exist. If we said that about an extremely skinny person( and yes I know it happens from time to time but not at the rate it is said to fat people ) we would be attacked for saying such a hateful thing. I’m almost 30 now and happily married and getting healthy to try and have my first baby. My motto to others now is if you don’t like me- don’t look, but I won’t be hiding.
@PrissyHippie
@PrissyHippie 5 месяцев назад
I had been overweight since early childhood. I'm from the South USA. I was raised on sweet tea, SWEET tea. It was in my bottles as a baby. I ate lots of home cooking, my mother and grandmother were excellent cooks, Southern Soul Food. My Mama even had a restaurant and catering business. We ate breads and potatoes at every meal and desserts were normal. Lots of fried foods. I honestly thought God just made me as a fat person. I honestly didn't think there was a thing I could do about it. But, I finally decided to do something about it with the help of my doctors, nutritionist and therapist. I went keto/low carb and lost 85 lbs on my own and decided to have wls. I had the sleeve in 2021. I have lost a total of 200 lbs. since deciding to lose weight. I still eat in a calorie deficit as I'm trying to lean out as much as possible for my upcoming skin removal surgery. I feel amazing! I am a completely different person than I was 5 years ago. It is a choice... being fat is a choice. I'm proof of that. You have to get out of your comfort zone and venture into unknown territory. But it is doable. Eliminating most processed foods and choosing whole foods was my key to success. Of course, the wls was a terrific tool for me. It helped me get my appetite under control and allowed me to eat in a calorie deficit for the first time in my life. I just wish I had done this years ago. I really enjoy your content Abby, thank you for all you do.
@warlordbuggy
@warlordbuggy 7 месяцев назад
Hey Abbey! Can you please watch “diets and weight stigma are making you mentally ill” by Mickey Atkins? I felt like you said a few things that were so similar to some of the things Mickey brings up in this video but still had a bit of a bias on weight that may be misplaced to some extent. I think there was a bit of nuance missing here that really would have been nice to see. Thank you so much if you get a chance to read this or watch the video suggestion! As a woman who has been all sizes and healthy at every one I think there is a lack of understanding from our health care providers that are just following what was taught to them by a broken system and may need some push back. I think you would find the information and research Mickey includes really interesting at the very least. Thank you again! Loved your video and the open conversation about weight and health! 💜
@5fingerjack
@5fingerjack 7 месяцев назад
Mickey Atkins - A licensed clinical SW and person in a bigger body who has struggled w/ED - & Abbey Sharpe... What a great chat they could have!
@dmspeacock
@dmspeacock 7 месяцев назад
I'm so glad you covered this. I saw the video when it came out and I was really wanting your commentary.
@krisztinanagy1626
@krisztinanagy1626 7 месяцев назад
Thank you Abbey for this video, not as simple as it looks, life is complicated sometimes,that for sure,and it’s really interesting how body and mind work together,🙏🤩🌻
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@ahuman5772
@ahuman5772 5 месяцев назад
Being "normal" weight is also not a healthy goal for some people. My girlfriend eats a very balanced diet (some of her food even looks like wellness influencers - like a breakfast that's just raw carrots and hommus dip, sometimes just carrots by themselves as a snack, that sort of thing). She's mostly plant-based, so not much processed meat. She is also overweight. She used to be normal weight, and had heart problems (unable to even walk up the stairs), felt dizzy and faint, really weak. She was only able to be "normal" weight because she was annorexic and basically didn't eat. We go exercising together now and she's feeling much better now that she doesn't have the eating disorder anymore. We don't drive so we walk a lot. Sometimes, people are just healthier being bigger. One thing that isn't talked about is that even if being overweight can have risks, for some people being a "normal" weight is worse.
@k.a5765
@k.a5765 7 месяцев назад
My sister who’s a mom of 2 is super skinny and has always been. She eats out every other day and still skinny. She has never worked out. She wanted to lose a little weight to look good in a bathing suit and she stop eating iced cream at night and lost 20 pounds. Me on the other hand I’m the opposite. I have to work on staying my weight. During my period last month I had a bad week and ate out almost everyday and gained 10 pounds. I’m saying this cause bodies are different.
@kaciewarren2626
@kaciewarren2626 6 месяцев назад
OK I'm sorry but the single mom working three minimum wage jobs still isn't doing her grocery shopping at the convenience store down the street that only has chips candy. The food desert situation is such a weird excuse. I have lived in a food desert my entire life and you still grocery shop at the grocery store. I don't know anyone that's living off of gas station food especially if they're close to the poverty line, you can't afford to live off of gas station.
@anonmouse15
@anonmouse15 Месяц назад
It's something that only obese middle class women bring up to justify themselves, despite the fact that they don't live anywhere near said "desert".
@rebeccabowen101
@rebeccabowen101 7 месяцев назад
I've been on both ends of the spectrum. Until I was 28 I could not gain weight to save my life. I hated it! Then my thyroid quit, I had three children, menopause came along, etc. Now, at 50 pounds heavier, I can't drop the weight no matter what. So very frustrating!!
@juliachen9781
@juliachen9781 7 месяцев назад
I've been skinny my whole life. I've had years where I ate ice cream and drank beer every single day, and years where I ate extremely "healthy", and the number on the scale didn't change (although I did throw out my scale, so now I only know my weight from the doctor's office) My weight is not a choice for me, so why should I assume it's a choice for someone in a larger body?
@Prismalpink
@Prismalpink 7 месяцев назад
I remember Selena Gomez once said she puffed up because of lupus and other health issues related to drinking in the past. Sometimes looking chubby or fat is not a choice, but bc of medical conditions.
@spirituallysafe
@spirituallysafe 6 месяцев назад
Drinking too much is a choice.
@art.junk13
@art.junk13 7 месяцев назад
Yes. You and Mickey around have drastically improved my perspective around weight.
@justjuli
@justjuli 7 месяцев назад
I dont think being overweight is a choice, but it can be the result of the choices we make. I think most people could loose weight if they tried, however most people will never be "skinny" whether that be due to health issues, genetics, weight history, hormones etc.
@Soyunakaren
@Soyunakaren 7 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for having a broad nutritional vision, these people are too privileged to be debating
@jax426nd
@jax426nd 2 месяца назад
I agree with everything you said! Genetics, culture, mental health, physical health, medications, social class, location, access to health care... There are so many factors... The best anyone can do is to do the best they are able to with the resources and knowledge they have!
@anyssareads
@anyssareads Месяц назад
always happy to see crohn's mentioned in the diet/wellness culture space because people don't realize that half the medications we take as people with IBD are made to help us gain weight after our weight gets dangerously low from flares of our disease.
@333Abs
@333Abs 7 месяцев назад
I honestly do think being very underweight or very overweight is caused by our choices. That’s not to say there are not VALID outside factors which effect the choices we make.
@aimeechas
@aimeechas 6 месяцев назад
Gas prices driving that far for groceries every week?!?!?! that's huge!
@kaemccorkle
@kaemccorkle 7 месяцев назад
Say it louder for the people in the back! Abbey’s explanation of fat shaming and judgment was so validating.
@mendicantcrow
@mendicantcrow 7 месяцев назад
I feel like the question they posed was problematic. For one, why was it "is being fat a choice" and not "is your weight a choice?" Secondly, the question is posed as choice singular. Your weight can be the result of thousands of smaller choices, each with their own complex hurdles and potential barriers from genetics, illnesses, and your social situation. So I would have said no, it's not a single choice based on that poor wording. It's a thousand choices, with a thousand variables each.
@nothanksmegan
@nothanksmegan 7 месяцев назад
Someone who is 5-15lbs “overweight” that truly eats a protein rich whole food diet with plenty of fruit & veg, low in ultra processed foods and alcohol is far healthier than a skinny or underweight person who’s drinking a bit too much and primarily consumes mac, crackers & nuggets. Nutrients matter!!
@tbryan5437
@tbryan5437 7 месяцев назад
My daughter loves to cook and makes us healthy meals. Last night she didn’t feel well when she started cooking, so I had to do it. It took me almost 2 hours to chop all the veggies she had sitting out and cooking the chicken. I hated every minute of it and was ready for a nervous breakdown by the time I was done, and I hadn’t even completed the meal. There was at least another ½ hour of work to put the salad together, make the homemade dressing, open cans of corn and beans…etc. At least it’s all prepped for her to make today. If it were up to me, our meals would be much simpler, and not as tasty and appealing. Not saying non-cooks like me can’t eat healthy, but the vision of a person cooking dinner and happily chopping healthy veggies etc., is not something most people can do, either because they hate it (like me), or don’t have the time or energy.
@eliannahankin2971
@eliannahankin2971 7 месяцев назад
I get it but if health is a priority and saving money too then making meals at home is a win. I don’t feel like doing things daily but I can’t afford nannies and personal cook
@LatulaArts
@LatulaArts 7 месяцев назад
I'm disabled and have been desperately trying to lose weight. I struggled with food insecurity for many years which destroyed my metabolism beyond what it already was from genetics. So my bmr is a mess. Plus the disastrous results of years of adhd medication that I didn't actually need that made me barely eat, then overeat when I was off the medication and food no longer made me sick. I manage to gain weight at around 1200 calories per day. People say its impossible but I've been weighing out my food for YEARS and tracking my calories. Making my meals at home, spending the extra I had to to get fresh and healthy food and cutting out all fast food, soda, alcohol, and excess sugar. And I still gained weight. For 8 months a few years back, I was walking around 3-5 miles a day for my job and eating no red meat, very few sweets, no fast food, and mostly salads with my meals equating to around 1500 calories per day. I went from 180lbs to 230lbs in that time and none of it was visible muscle. I cut down to 1200 and was still gaining. I ended off at 240. I did not start losing weight until I cut down to 800 calories per day which is VERY UNHEALTHY. I had to go on medication to try to get my body to stop doing this and have barely managed to lose 30lbs in the past year. Given, I wasn't disabled back when I was walking so much, but I am now and I can't go to the gym or walk very far because of it. I'm still struggling to get down to my goal of 160 before my wedding next year.. and even that 160 is still considered overweight for my 5'6 frame. But I also have 12lbs of breast tissue and that hasn't changed since I was skinnier, so I'm calling it "technically 148lbs" lol
@jemimahgertrude590
@jemimahgertrude590 7 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for raising this. I too am disabled and struggling to lose weight at 1200 calories. So glad I'm not alone in my struggle ❤
@LatulaArts
@LatulaArts 7 месяцев назад
@jemimahgertrude590 contrave did help me, but it's a nightmare to start. It made me feel horrid for the first two weeks and even then my insurance would only cover a month and a half of it :( I'm sorry you're going through this too. So many people on weight loss boards reply to me saying shit like "that's physically impossible" or "you can't break physics" but my base metabolic rate is just THAT low that 1200 isn't really a defecit.
@sdennen
@sdennen 7 месяцев назад
This is a problem I struggle with too - I have multiple health conditions and I have to listen to my body and rest or risk flares and be out of commission for weeks or months. On bad days, my Fitbit says I'm burning 1500 calories. For a long time, I was eating 1250 calories and felt like I was starving. I had even less strength and energy. It was taking weeks to lose even a pound. I felt awful and it wasn't sustainable. My body was just not cooperating. When I started doing better and could burn 1700-2100 calories a day, I was still tracking my food (matched in/output or deficit) and, wouldn't you know it? I'm STILL gaining weight, a pound every few weeks.
@jemimahgertrude590
@jemimahgertrude590 7 месяцев назад
@@sdennen Listening to your body as regards to rest is so important! I try to have at least one rest day a week to portion out my energy and prevent exhaustion creeping up on me
@sheridanvance7426
@sheridanvance7426 21 день назад
@vincilai6531
@vincilai6531 7 месяцев назад
Amazing video!!! I love your evidence based points and informed perspectives! ❤️ I would also add more info in the social determinants of health as they are hugely related to health, wellbeing, and weight. You definitely touched on this which I appreciate :)
@betinamri
@betinamri 7 месяцев назад
I think in the end this discussion resumes to yeah, it can be a choice, HOWEVER it doesn't mean that is going to be easy for everybody. It's a very hard one for most people unfortunately.
@Taywanee
@Taywanee 7 месяцев назад
Exactly. It’s simple in the fact that to lose weight you just need to be in a deficit, but it’s not easy when you have to unlearn a lifetime of unhealthy eating habits (speaking from experience)
@betinamri
@betinamri 7 месяцев назад
And I love your view about how we can believe that these two things can be true at the same time! Love your content Abbey
@betinamri
@betinamri 7 месяцев назад
@@Taywanee Exactly!! Same here :/
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
Yes it's very complicated!
@Bmaessg
@Bmaessg 7 месяцев назад
There are also risks to intentional weight loss: weight cycling, lowered bone density, amenorrhea, muscle loss, frailty in people over 65, eating disorders, obsession with food, loss of time and energy for other important things in your life, modeling body obsession and manipulation to your children.
@erica9443
@erica9443 2 месяца назад
THANK YOU for pointing out the disparity in how people criticize fat people's food choices over skinny people's. Like Lauren's claim that "skinny people just don't go down the junk food aisle" is just absurd. But because those skinny people don't show the evidence on their bodies they're not judged in the same way for their choices. It's infuriating
@vesuvius2444
@vesuvius2444 4 месяца назад
Great video. In some ways it's a choice, in some ways it isn't. I once heard a former obese person who also used to be a drug addict say. Quitting drugs was much easier for him because he didn't have to use drugs to survive. But his eating addiction was tempted everytime he ate food which he has to, to survive. It's not something people can quit cold turkey.
@xx1983xx
@xx1983xx 6 месяцев назад
So most of my childhood, my maternal grandmother "teased" me on being chubby in a negative way. I chose to ignore her comments as an adolescence, but it still hurt. My body went through puberty, and I briefly was the "perfect skinny sized teen" for a couple of years before my eating habits caught up. I've only been about 20-40 pounds over the "ideal" weight for someone my size, but I was always athletic enough to make the nay-sayers hush. Grandma died, ironically, from starving to death. (Dramatic, but the relatives were taking care of her, or lack thereof. Murder mystery that I don't bother about. ) Anyhew, now I'm 40 years old, former "athlete," and I recognize the illness in both the "fat and skinny." Both are opposites of the health spectrums, and yet neither will see it in themselves. My paternal grandmother was a chubby, stereotypical grandma who loved her grandkids. And when she died, she was a few decades older than my maternal grandmother. The life lesson to me is: do you want to die a skinny young thing, or a happy sized grandparent? Of course I'm biased, but my story isn't a lie. I miss my happy, overly healthy, grandma.
@KiraRagged
@KiraRagged 5 месяцев назад
Shame is a terrible motivator, it's one of the worst. I saw a quote from a different video that I think sums this up. "We change when we believe that we are capable and worthy of changing." Shame has exactly the opposite effect.
@sarahkay8784
@sarahkay8784 2 месяца назад
I’m 57 and I’ve been within 20 pounds in other direction since I was 17 years old. Even pregnant with a 10lb baby, I only gained 12 lbs. I can eat pretty much what I want and I’m stuck right around 195lbs. All my bloodwork is in normal range. I walk 10 to 12k steps a day and am very active. I hated my body for a very long time and I eventually loved my body for all the things it has done for me. WW was offered as a benefit at my job so I downloaded the app and it did help me tighten up my diet. My co worker has PCOS and even after meeting with a dietician and sticking to a pretty rigid meal plan, she only lost minimal weight. The thing with WW is some of the things didn’t make sense. I eat a bowl of special K cereal with skim milk and fruit for breakfast. It kept me well full until lunch. Under WW that’s 5 points. I tried eggs. I tried Greek yogurt and I was starving 2 hours into a busy shift. I would sometimes over points for the day even though when I add up the calories they gave the food I was eating, I was still pretty close to 1200 calories. That’s why I stopped using the app. It didn’t make sense.
@arwenitaofdoom9041
@arwenitaofdoom9041 6 месяцев назад
I have both been fat and skinny -shamed. As a teen it triggered my ED at both sizes of the spectrum. Now i have been around this size for over 10 years. Im in a smaller frame naturally and I still get comments about me being "so skinny". I don't get why people even bother commenting on other peoples bodies. People don't know what damage they may be causing and they have now idea what people are going through in their life.
@katiekilgore6319
@katiekilgore6319 7 месяцев назад
I've never been "skinny" I'd say im midsized, as an adult I've alway been between 140-160ish, even when I was eating really low carb, high protein,and working out several times a week I could barely get below 140, i was thinner than I ever had been but didn't look anything like my cousins who have always been skinny. It became so hard to get smaller i just gave up, I'm back to 160 now and hoping to lose some weight before my wedding in November but not seeing a hard goal
@absw6129
@absw6129 Месяц назад
I've been following this debate for a while, and ultimately a lot of it boils down to free will vs determinism. While it's true that if you choose to put yourself in a caloric deficit you're going to lose weight, did you actually chose to have the neurochemistry and being put into an environment that made you want to make that choice to begin with? You can say it's about willpower, but then what causes you to have that willpower?
@Pepper-sg5rc
@Pepper-sg5rc 7 месяцев назад
i don’t think i’ll be able to watch this one, but i’ll be back next time❤
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
thanks for taking care of yourself!
@ThingsAbove333
@ThingsAbove333 7 месяцев назад
Lets just love each other right where we're at 🎉🎉
@mostlywholenicole
@mostlywholenicole 6 месяцев назад
We all have choices, but we don’t all have the same choices!
@sashamellon822
@sashamellon822 6 месяцев назад
Btw guys do you guys not have come delivery in all of the USA? Why does every American in the middle of no where need to go to the “store” if there isn’t one near them and they don’t have the time?
@katerinaleoudi8801
@katerinaleoudi8801 7 месяцев назад
I think body shaming is awful. The mental implications of this practice are tremendous. Although I have never been overweight or underweight I could never understand the need to judge other people for the way they look.
@maryshannon3326
@maryshannon3326 6 месяцев назад
I like Abbey's science-backed and comprehensive take on this sensitive subject. We need more civil discussions like this and less of the hateful blaming and shaming and judging that is found all over the internet and in schools, families, medical clinics, magazines, all forms of media, etc. in the USA.
@nyxcha0s
@nyxcha0s 6 месяцев назад
This video is epic and amazing. THANK YOU so much for commenting and pointing out emphatically shaming is NEVER NEVER NEVER appropriate.. not even a little bit. The hate and vitriol i faced on a daily basis were the fuel to get WLS.. i did not purposefully have the most extensive and malabsorbtive surgery available for my health.. i did it TO SHUT PEOPLE UP.. shut up... nobody could just let me be, so the only way to escape the VERBAL ABUSE (lets be clear every single person who screamed at me was an abuser.. they do NOT get a pretty word they were abusive, they were/are abusers) i literally could not heal the CPTSD I got from the abuse until i stopped being abused. So i had surgery to forcible get people to leave me alone... and lets be clear i HATE THEM.. YES HATE.. that strong, loathe to my core.... because I've yet to heal to any form of peace (and I've already come a long way)... they fucked me up, forced a choice that has since caused me to get all kinds of health issues just to shut them up...and I'm still healing. Don't congratulate me on my weight loss, because i most certainly did lose it. But it occurred at the hands of abusers... that is not a success
@Plumpquail
@Plumpquail 7 месяцев назад
I absolutely loved your comment at the end “two things can be true” ! Yess!
@heatherheaven8592
@heatherheaven8592 6 месяцев назад
It's a choice to a certain extent. There are people who have medical reasons for not being able to gain/lose weight. I can say eating whole foods, staying active, staying hydrated, and well rested are ways to stay healthy and maintain a healthy weight and even lose weight. Everyone is different so what works for you might not work for everyone else.
@bibibabblesasmr7644
@bibibabblesasmr7644 7 месяцев назад
Dear, brilliant Abbey, I'd love to hear your thoughts on "Is your weight under your control?" video by Miche,PhD? As a person struggling with an ED, I found that video to be controversial 🫤 Thank you for yet another thought-feeding video ❤
@bandanarathore
@bandanarathore 7 месяцев назад
I think aiming for a healthier body rather than just weightloss can be much more beneficial for everyone for a longer and better life as everyone's body and life circumstances are different.
@chanterelledesign8310
@chanterelledesign8310 7 месяцев назад
Blood work doesn't lie!
@bandanarathore
@bandanarathore 7 месяцев назад
@@chanterelledesign8310 that's why I wrote healthier : improvement from the current state of health. And people can actually have a good life even when their blood work isn't to the T. It is people who are no nuance nellies that make life difficult for others.
@coltthestarsheriff3544
@coltthestarsheriff3544 7 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for this. You have very balanced and objective view, Abby. Body/fat positivity movement is direct consequence of tnin obsession, that has been one of the most important pillars of global popular culture. The same obsession that pulled people into anorexia and bulimia. And for skinny shaming. Just because there is this semantic inconsistency between skinny as a word being used for both underweight and good looking/mascular bodies made in gym, doesn't mean that everyday practice makes any difference. No, societies tend to shape bodies through cultural means and discourses, through its ideal body conceptualization. Both overweight and underweight are not ideal types, although being muscular as a man, i could say as a slim guy, has been closer to the bigger weight for the last 15 years. Men were never that big/mascular in the 90s, or even in some time parts of 2000s. Cultural and social barriers when it comes to food and nutrition really do exist, medical anthropologists and medical sociologists can testify.
@skyelindsey687
@skyelindsey687 6 месяцев назад
In my opinion it’s both. There are some people who have medical conditions that prevent them from losing weight. However there are those that could lose weight but they literally choose not to. My father was a good example of both. He started out life fine. Then he started eating only junk food and was on the heavier side when my mother got with him. Her and his doctors both told him his health was on the decline and he needed to stop eating as much junk food. He had several cardiovascular surgeries done, followed by a seizure when I was 6 that I witnessed, followed by a blood clot in his leg and needed to go to the hospital while we were evacuating due to a hurricane. He lost several toes and then half a leg. Then in 2013, 24 days before my sister gave birth, he passed away from a heart attack at 55. So yes, it’s both. Some people can choose and choose wrong while others don’t have a choice. And just because you don’t have a choice doesn’t mean they should go “oh, it doesn’t matter so why eating healthy”.
@jacezeimantz1
@jacezeimantz1 7 месяцев назад
You summed it up perfectly Abbey! We should be promoting and encouraging lifestyle changes to have a healthy body and healthy weight, rather than quick and dangerous methods for simply the result of fat loss
@conspiracyman8353
@conspiracyman8353 7 месяцев назад
Given that obesity rates in US (and other similar countries) have increased greatly decade over decade, choice and/or environmental factors (such as food access, economics, parenting, friends, etc) must have a large effect, given that I can't imagine genetics have changed much in such a short time span.
@sue9037
@sue9037 7 месяцев назад
I’m so glad I found your videos when I was in recovery you helped me so much
@moistsquish
@moistsquish 7 месяцев назад
Short answer yes. Long answer no
@AbbeysKitchen
@AbbeysKitchen 7 месяцев назад
haha 😂
@aleidalg
@aleidalg 7 месяцев назад
Love all your takes. Thank you for this!
@DanielleMisc96
@DanielleMisc96 7 месяцев назад
I would say, that I've known many people who were, at one point, thin, and gained weight in their 20's beginning when they were away for university and never stopped. The inverse is that I've also known people who were large for most of their life and embarked a journey to lose the weight. They have been able to remain a healthy weight. I would say that for some is a choice, and other suffer medical issues and environmental circumstances it is a more challenging choice because they have factors stacked against them. Your life is what you make it, at the end of the day. I agree with Dominic.
@TropicalHonduranDominican
@TropicalHonduranDominican 6 месяцев назад
I was 172 lbs when I was 14 due to excess fat. I went down to 143 and maintained it for 6 years but then regained it and now at 183. However I instead gain more muscle than fat from extreme workouts and high protein diet despite the BMI said I’m overweight
@legobuilders6133
@legobuilders6133 7 месяцев назад
Being fat is NOT a choice = a very obesogenic statement.I'm European, we do not have food deserts here, we have social welfare so nobody needs to work 3 tot 4 jobs. Still obesity is on the rise. It is a choice what you put in to your mouth, it certainly is here. And please, our genetics did not change sinds 1970 (100000 years of evolution within 1 generation ( people born with certain genes would have changed them dramatically within their lifespan?? Common, not possible). And sure the government needs to do something (but if a country chooses a government that puts profit over people, well, this is what you get. sarcasm mode on: at least you do not have socialism). Eat real food, not too much, as much plants as possible. Is fatshaming okay? NO! But you can point them to their responsibilities to themselves. If you do not do that, you are shaming larger peoples intelligence with alternative facts.
@anonmouse15
@anonmouse15 Месяц назад
Never doubt the American's ability to twist facts until they get to hear precisely what they want to.
@KrystalAnn0688
@KrystalAnn0688 7 месяцев назад
“Yeah Science!”- Aaron Paul (Jesse Pinkman) has my heart ❤ Always appreciate a Breaking Bad reference
@kaylamuldoon397
@kaylamuldoon397 5 месяцев назад
In response to the lovely people interjecting about fresh food like salad in food pantry boxes. I can attest that depending upon the pantry (there's technically 3 where I live, fairly rural, 1 is a local food pantry, 1 is a church food pantry and 1 is a monthly up from a larger city) The last one I mentioned the fresh products are frozen or in a state where they can be unusable. The salad or green mixes if not used within a day or two are slimy and dangerous to eat (food safety wise) So fresh for us is potatoes, carrots, onions, garlic, cabbage, occasionally I'll get a head of ice berg but my fridge froze my last one 😢 after partly using it. Most of our veggies are canned 🤷‍♀️ We make it work though 😊
@GenuineJess
@GenuineJess 2 дня назад
I was a c-section birth and fed formula, sheesh no wonder I"'m obese. Honestly, I make bad decisions with food, and have been losing weight since I started trying to. I also have an obese family on my dad's side so I'm more prone to being obese, but it's still my choice to eat right or not.
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