Differences Between Mormonism and Christianity 

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I truly hope God will accept and save the mormons. But I just don't see how it can be so. Such great people, but so blasphemous.

I walked away from my family, friends and business life after I got saved. Not in one instance but progressively over the course of a few years. It is difficult, but 100%?worth it. Seek and ye shall find.

I have two brothers that are athiest, everyone else on my wife's side and mine are active lds, they feel I've lost my mind and been led astray accepting the bible and it's narrative, I live in Utah county, I love these conversations, I feel armed to engage error but it's sad the justification that holds their worldview together, often it leads to unbelief when it crumbles, there's no foundation to fall back on.

Luke 9:23-26 King James Version (KJV) 23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. 24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. 25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away? 26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

When i leave Methodist, my relatives and friends are fine with that. But when mormons come to my house, they are ready to turn their back. What happened to the world????

This video is 20 minutes long, but like the other response said the apostle Paul was transformed in an instant. Also no one can make anyone change, only those who accept Christ through the Holy Spirit.

But the Lord can do that in less than 5minutes

Yeah if it's God's will then if course you can be changed in an instant. Through God all things are possible. But generally he changes your heart, not your views. Your views will come from your change of heart.

Matt Bell So isn’t a heart transformation as change of mind? Meaning a change of views? Only then, by fruit and testing of Spirit we could see the change right?

Matt That's right!

yes

welcome to knowledge of the deception the LDS church has. The JW church is not quite as decieved but still very misled. we need to love these people because these are the people satan goes after, not the atheists that dont care about knowing God at all

Yes very true

Darkking Ice with all due respect no !!!! We believe in free agency The will to act !! The devil wanted us to have no choices I grew up southern baptist and Mormon And I’m fifty years old I know the doctrine Yes we believe in progress of the human species But it’s not about being God , it’s about living with our families and Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father !!!

It's all about the context and the details. Satan declared that death would not be immanent when they partake of the fruit and that they would become like the gods knowing good and evil, and just a few verses later God Himself agrees with Satan and declares that they indeed will be doomed to die even though their death was not immanent, and that they did become as one of the Gods in knowing good and evil. you have to look at the whole context and not just the parts that you agree with. Lucifer's downfall was due to pride in usurping the power, while God teaches that those who will be the greatest will be the one who serves the most, that is the opposite of the way Lucifer tried to become as God, and that is why Lucifer was cast down. not because He desired to be like God, but the way He tried to go about getting there.

Former Methodist here, you may thanked your 3 personality in 1 being god as i did before. But that doesn't make any change. You still don't understand the bible, Amen.

@Saved by his grace *G2G* You and the mormons has a different god. They are praying for your souls too, so that you will leave your lunatic god, i bet they did.!!!

Praise God!

Amen! I am a former Mormon.

@@RachelParker-1977 Amen, i am a former Methodist and soon to join the Mormons.

Curiosity about god and what happens when we die are common to us all, their goal is to insert their framework for questioning and receiving answers, I'm glad you had a foundation to look back on when processing their claims, it could have gone very differently, their messages are deceitful to what they actually believe and positions their church has taken on all sorts of things, glad you knew better.

Danvan2 Ruth it’s sounds like you have all the answers ?

@@j.huffhumble4281 if your lds I 've been through the rabbit hole

God can use everything for good, even the works of a missionary in a fake gospel's mission. As an Elder in the LDS church, i must say, missionaries are taught to be friendly, formal or even flirty if its convenient. But i hope its was real friendship. Bless you brother

@@danvan2683 yes! it's called lying for the Lord. Answering the questions that should have been asked that they have rehearsed answers for. Not necessarily answering the questions you ask.

Yes...

Yeah right, try the mormon's strategy, i think it's a better one. I've heard that they baptize morethan the apologia men can.LOL

@amy w What's save means? What salvation really means to you? Do you think apologia has that while the Mormons don't?

@amy w What salvation really means to you? Do you think apologia has that while the Mormons don't?

@amy w You can quote me all verses in the Bible that says Salvation blah blah blah, but what does it really mean to you????

@amy w So that's what you believe, owkey. If that is salvation, then Mormons Jesus saved a lot than those apologia men.LOL

William Ringler I feel for you loosing your Daughter. I hope that Jesus hods you in his arms for comfort. I lost my Son in 2012 and lost my Daughter in the end of December 2018. I’m glad this time I have my Church family to get us through it. God Bless Sir

Unfortunately because the one that appeared in the burning bush claimed to be the Angel of the Lord, Jehovahs Witnesses and the Seventh Day Adventists believe that it was Michael that appeared

You have to understand something most of us if we're giving love to because we care about themwe're going to give God's truth and nothing but the truth along with the love that's what you have to have in God's truth will always offend you can't be worried about offending people now we're not talking about running them down making him feel small that's not what we're talking about the truth of Christ will always offend you can't be afraid of that you can't ever water down the gospel you got to give the truth at all times that's the problem with a lot of Christians nowadays, that's why you got the Joel olsteen's and some of the others they're so worried about offending people to try to get numbersthe gospel of the Bible does offend you have to give the truth man otherwise you won't end up in Hell God makes it very clear that he will spit you out of his mouth if you are lukewarm you have to give the truth and it is brutal you give it with love but you can't water it down

Sorry to hear that you left! Yes, you really have to change the entire frame by which you read the scriptures to shift between, say, Reformed Theology or Evangelicalism and Mormonism. I believe, however, that the lens through with the LDS read them is much closer to the original theology as taught consistently throughout the OT, prior to the outside influences of Persian Zoroastrianism (which introduced the foreign concept of metaphysical monotheism), and Hellenic culture (which introduced ideas like the Absolute "Omnis," original sin, etc.) It's fascinating to see how much connection the "revolutionary" doctrine of Joseph Smith had to First Temple theology that we're only just beginning to understand better through archaeology. More than a coincidence, if you ask me!

@@Aldrnari more specifically what connections are you making between first temple judaism and Smith?

@@danvan2683 There are a ton... An understanding of the council of the gods and divine feminine, a restoration of temple rites that the Bible does not discuss but which we know from archaeology were practiced, a belief in a pre-existence, a proper understanding of the first chapters of Genesis, and more. It's a huge topic, but there's so much great evidence that the LDS movement is truly grounded in the supernatural---whether you believe it was from God or not.

@@Aldrnari it sounds like you are beggining with stuff specific to your church and seeing what you expect to with that as a presupposition. I really care about the biblical narrative and lately I'm kinda a nerd when it comes to this historical reality, you are describing alot of separate issues, if you are interested I'd want to focus on one thing, this heavenly council is interesting, what exactly is it you feel is going on when we get descriptions of divine council's?

@@danvan2683 On the contrary, it is most often Christians who presuppose that their worldview is correct and project it onto the past---which is why unbiased non-Christian archaeologists most often interpret the evidence in a way that meshes with Mormonism rather than modern Christianity. Sure, the heavenly council is a pretty well-established concept. We know quite a bit about it because similar concepts occur in cultures neighboring Israel: Ugarit, Mesopotamia, and even Egypt. I'll give my explanation based on the scholarly view, rather than the LDS one, to be fair---but it meshes quite well with the cosmology Joseph presented. The Hebrews believed that the Father God El ruled as the Most High God among a plethora of lesser gods who were usually called the Bene Elohiym (Sons of God). According to the OT, after the events of the Tower of Babel, God divided up stewardship over the nations amongst these gods of the Council (see the Septuagint or Dead Sea versions of Deuteronomy 32:8---the Masoretic text was altered there). One of the gods in this council was named YHWH, and he is most often portrayed as a kind of storm god in the earliest Biblical passages (See Exodus 15). Also in Exodus 15 verse 11, we see Moses praising YHWH as the mightiest among all of the gods. YHWH was also given an inheritance, and that inheritance was the nation of Israel. They acknowledged that other nations were ruled by other gods, but YHWH was theirs, and they thought he was the best (this Henotheism is well-attested in the archaeological record---more on that later). In Psalm 82, we have a change: God steps forward to judge the gods which he has set over the nations, and he is displeased. He claims that they have judged unrighteously, and condemns them to death. The last verse in the chapter then gives us the key: It says that God (in this case, YHWH) will now be inheriting ALL of the Earth. The Most High Father still remains ultimately in charge, but he has given the whole Earth to YHWH. This belief eventually morphed into the Jewish rejection of Henotheism and evolution of Monotheism during about the 5th and 6th centuries BC. We know this evolution happened due to the archaeology, which shows that originally, El had a consort named Asherah and a son named Yehu (Yahweh), but eventually, El and Yehu became conflated, and Asherah was seen as the consort of Yehu instead of his mother. Eventually, Monotheism took over during the post-Exilic period of the Deuteronomists, and Asherah worship was discontinued, but there are thousands of shrines which have 3 thrones in them that attest to what I'm saying here (and I have a lot more evidence that this was what they actually believed that I can go over if you want, although it's hard to share in RU-vid comments). So now along comes Jesus in the NT, a former member of the Divine Council, who correctly identifies himself as the Divine I AM (YHWH), and yet who makes a sharp distinction between himself and God the Father ("why call ye me good? There is none good but God," There is one God, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, etc.) Note the distinction between God and "the Lord" in many passages. Because Jesus (YHWH) has inherited the whole Earth from his Father (see Hebrews 1) , Jesus is the Lord of the Earth, the Divine King, and we may become "co-heirs" with Christ (see Romans 8:16-17), just as the original members of the Divine Council were seen as co-heirs with YHWH in the OT. I could honestly go on, because so many little pieces fit when you begin to understand how the ancient Hebrews saw the gods (the need for the bizarre Trinity doctrine completely vanishes), but if you'd like to hone in on any specific point, feel free to let me know.

Wrong, God's word is the truth but you can determine that truth by your experiences, read and apply what God wants you to do.

Joey Feliciano “God’s word is the truth” and then you say you can determine “that truth” as if it’s subjective. That doesn’t make any sense.

@@chawkz I only quoted the scripture in a different way, but that doesn't includes the atheists and those who do not believe Jesus is God, because stupid atheists have their own truth.LOL John 8:31-32 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. If that doesn't mean any sense to you, then i am sorry for you because you can't understand what i am saying. God's word doesn't determine anything, it is those who believe in that God can determine if what they read is true or the truth according to their experiences. (Hayssst, why am i explaining to an idiot again?????)

@@joeyfeliciano9199 Calling someone an idiot sir is showing your lack of respect, care, and dignity, by which you need to repent and believe the Gospel. "I only quoted the scripture in a different way." Nope, you're twisting Scripture out of context to make your case, which is arbitrary. Let's see what God says. You said "God's word doesn't determine anything, it is those who believe in that God can determine if what they read is true or the truth according to their experiences." Nope, not true. Our experiences don't determine truth, God's word determines truth. John 17:17 "Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth." This verse shows that God's Word IS truth. Now, to the verse you quoted and twisted out of context; John 8:31-32 "To the Jews who had believed Him, Jesus said, If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." This verse is saying that if you read The Word of The Living God, and you are obedient to His teachings, you will know the Truth (referencing the Bible) and it will be set you free (receive the gift of Salvation).

@@palerity6320 Are you fucking idiot? (i am asking you) You said that John 17:17 shows that Gods word is truth.LOL What DID i say again? God's word is what? And what did you say then? (Haysst am i talking to an idiot again?) To the verses i gave which is from the original KJV that you can download in to your computer easily, and which i do not know what version you use, John 8:31-32 "To the Jews who had believed Him, Jesus said, If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." Thise verses shows that if you read the word of God, and you are obedient to His teachings, you will know the truth. (not referring to the bible, because bible contains the old testament too, you stupid!, and no christian do the burn offering after he ascend to heaven). You are the one twisting the scripture like what apologia men do.LOL Jesus commanded all to be baptized and to baptize people who believe in His teachings in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit! And be perfect even as the Father which is in Heaven, who is perfect. And by obeying what He say you will know if what He said is true if it works to you. But if not i don't think you can say that it is true.LOL

I heard Ray Comfort from “Living Waters” say that when people when they maybe use their act of kindness they receive upraise When god should be receiving it that is a gift from god and they shouldn’t use it in the manner that they do.

Ryan Why can't this god just talk to him one on one?

hawkerdoo He can if He wanted to but the Bible says only Faith can please God. He moves us to places in our lives where we can exercise faith. This is how He operated throughout the Old Testament

@@bentonvillefamily This is what I hear when you put it like that. This god can but won't destroy a fundamental wrong, then hold you hostage to faith. It doesn't sound like this god is very good at doing its job.

​@@hawkerdoo God is powerful to save all His elect by whatever means he chooses.

@@Firebert79TA So this god picks the ones he likes?

But I think he knew it was in love but also when we are made to feel uncomfortable, it makes us question and that is what the truth always does. Like when God is wanting us to move forward in His purpose He makes our current situation uncomfortable. We only need to be willing to question as that is opening our hearts and ears to His instruction. But then when He has worked to move us closer to Him that situation that was unpleasantly uncomfortable is turned into joy and praise and we would do.it all again to be where we are at the end. I went through it with years of suicidal depression and now I k ow Him I'd live through it all again to be where I am. I think it's that we are obviously only able to see our present moment and that's where trust and faith come in. It can be hard for a while but He is always leading us in love, we just can't see it til we get there lol xx

Lea lea I totally agree with all you said. So many people were talking to this man and thats ok but I’m just looking at it from the angle that if someone doesn’t understand and all these Christians are coming at him though we know there intent this gentleman may not have known it. There is no harm in speaking the truth but maybe just a different approach of not having not so many people involved in talking to him.

the Christian’s work is out of love and obedience to the Lord. It is not meant to justify them. Only faith does that. The work is evidence of the justifying faith. What about your judging?

Into another form of moron-ism

Yes

No you can't, he is from christian mimics before he became LDS.

I think he can he just thinks mostly about the experiences and what he saw, But the truth is what he saw and believes is not from God but the masquerader of light who will perform miracles and deceive so many

Hopefully not. He's not the most knowledgeable LDS guy I've seen, but he's in the right place, bless him.

Can you help me find it? I have out volume 3&4 I know the quote by Brigham young, but didn't know it was in the history of the church

@@pauldunn7000 I'm sorry, it wasn't in the history of the church. It's in Journal of Discourses vol.7 pages 282-291. Brigham Young Sermon Joseph Smith's consent needed to enter Heaven. I hope this helps. You can actually read it online.

This is a false statement.

I would ask you to go back a listen to that section, he actually said "we love them". Although I will say he does need to work on self monitoring skill, no one will be one over in a 20 minute debate. Even Paul says in 1st Pester 3:15 to be ready to make a defense for your hope and to do it with gentleness and respect

Telling someone that what he believe is false using your own belief is not good. You just only pissing them off.

The man may not have had another week. Luke 12:20 -"But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee..."

I agree.. not saying it wasn't done with good intentions but the one guy came off a little too strong.. sometimes that is the reason it backfires..

You know that God exists, but suppress this knowledge with your sin.

@@OracleOfSages you know god doesn’t exist and cannot live without an imaginary friend. Now how do we tell who’s right me or you?

Brianne Hill sorry for your Loss

Thank you for your kind response.

Your father in law knows now who is the real God, but believe it or not, you can't convince me that you know who is the real God!

Really? “Did our hearts not burn within us” Whose definition or interpretation is correct??? You need to do a bit more personal study and prayer 🙏

"Who is the angel of the Lord?" Answer: The precise identity of the “angel of the Lord” is not given in the Bible. However, there are many important “clues” to his identity. There are Old and New Testament references to “angels of the Lord,” “an angel of the Lord,” and “the angel of the Lord.” It seems when the definite article “the” is used, it is specifying a unique being, separate from the other angels. The angel of the Lord speaks as God, identifies Himself with God, and exercises the responsibilities of God (Genesis 16:7-12; 21:17-18; 22:11-18; Exodus 3:2; Judges 2:1-4; 5:23; 6:11-24; 13:3-22; 2 Samuel 24:16; Zechariah 1:12; 3:1; 12:8). In several of these appearances, those who saw the angel of the Lord feared for their lives because they had “seen the Lord.” Therefore, it is clear that in at least some instances, the angel of the Lord is a theophany, an appearance of God in physical form. The appearances of the angel of the Lord cease after the incarnation of Christ. Angels are mentioned numerous times in the New Testament, but “the angel of the Lord” is never mentioned in the New Testament after the birth of Christ. There is some confusion regarding Matthew 28:2, where the KJV says “the angel of the Lord” descended from heaven and rolled the stone away from Jesus’ tomb. It is important to note that the original Greek has no article in front of angel; it could be “the angel” or “an angel,” but the article must be supplied by the translators. Other translations besides the KJV say it was “an angel,” which is the better wording. It is possible that appearances of the angel of the Lord were manifestations of Jesus before His incarnation. Jesus declared Himself to be existent “before Abraham” (John 8:58), so it is logical that He would be active and manifest in the world. Whatever the case, whether the angel of the Lord was a pre-incarnate appearance of Christ (Christophany) or an appearance of God the Father (theophany), it is highly likely that the phrase “the angel of the Lord” usually identifies a physical appearance of God www.gotquestions.org/angel-of-the-Lord.html

WTF! What truth is that??? Can you explain it?

How does that make that un-Christ like is that said in the Bible

No it is not. I have a few LDS family members. It is a very different Christ. You believe Christ and Satan are brothers. Nope. You believe Christ was once a man. Nope. You believe Christ was created. Nope. Not even close.

He is wrong though, his Mormonism had been questioned and exposed

Obviously

And what testimony do you have? It seems like they don't have a true testimony but you have it all.LOL

Yeah,They will surely go straight to the hell fire!!! LOL

Evangelism done is better than evangelism not done

Then quit criticizing those of us who have gone on LDS missions.

@@Sayheybrother8 Your mission is to spread a false gospel

@@Sayheybrother8 Imperfectly sharing the truth is more important than perfectly sharing a lie.

The truth that the 66 books composing the complete inherent revealed word of God. There is only one way to God and it is His way not any addition or redactions. Galatians 1:6 "I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting him who called you by the grace of Christ for a different gospel 7 which is really not another, only there are some who are disturbing you, and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 but even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed." Therefore a Jesus that is not the God incarnate, Emmanuel, who came out of heaven to rescue poor, miserable, blind, sinners. Who is just one of many gods, a brother to Lucifer, is not The Jesus of scripture thus is idolatry, which we men are comfortable with. And need our eyes opened by the God of all creation the Word made flesh who dwelt among us.

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Not necessary, unneeded comment.

I know mormons who talk like that to speak for our beliefs.

But it's just a gateway to get ppl to read the book of mormon, a book that is not inspired by God because it contradicts the Bible.

Modern Vintage Lifestyles they quoted a couple lines in the bible saying, “the bible foretold(prophesied) the book of mormon. Jesus even appears in the book of mormon in 3rd Nephi.

@@localpunk1356 Jesus appears in the book of mormon? You are easily deceived because you haven't read the bible. There are many people and cults who claim they are Christian, simply because they use Jesus in their teachings, but it's a different Jesus and a different gospel. I invite you to listen to "there are only 2 religions in the world" by John McArthur so you can get an idea of how many cults there are that claim to be the true church because an angel or God appeared to them. Wake up, mormonism isn't the only cult that claims to have been visited by an angel. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FSQZAZUkijk.html

"well since mormons believe in christ, by definition they are christians." News flash for you....Jehovah Witnesses, Moonies, Christian Scientists, Scientologists, Christadelphians, plus the many other different sects of Mormonism also believe in Christ. Do you consider all of them Christian as well and if you do, would you, if you're LDS, walk along side, for example, with members from The Watchtower and do door to door missionary work with them? If not, why not?

They don’t believe in theosis, though.

@@mr400meter wrong ... greek orthodox christians believe in theosis, just like mormons.

@@mr400meter in fact ... theosis is the entire point of christianity ... to become like god.

Facts dont care about your feelings. God is not nice. He is good.

Become super knowledgeable on the Bible, engage with love, try to learn what different sort of arguments different people have and be prepared with proper responses, be sincere, patient, compassionate and learn from others who you think are good at it.

@@FindTheTruthBeforeTheEnd God Bless you Brother and thank you

@@FindTheTruthBeforeTheEnd if I may ask how did you put this answer together? You make many good points .