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The second worst bus disaster in Canadian history took place in Eastman, Québec, on 4 August 1978. The brakes of a chartered bus failed and it plunged into Lac d'Argent, killing 41 people with physical or mental disabilities.
Directed by Chris Triffo
Starring Ian Michael Coulson, Bruce Edwards, Jason Malloy
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Ian Michael Coulson as Interviewee
Bruce Edwards as Narrator
Jason Malloy as Pilot
Amanda Cutting as Debroah

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@malabuha
@malabuha 5 лет назад
17:20 "morbidly curious" 😅 i guess that makes us watching this video😅
@raymondakook9377
@raymondakook9377 4 года назад
Zeljka Strl
@crazygarnett
@crazygarnett 5 лет назад
"of the 143 buses tested only only 37 pass inspection (mechanical safety test)." Sounds like this was an accident waiting to happen.
@treybryant7863
@treybryant7863 4 года назад
Lisl G M, I have to agree with you. It was a disaster waiting to happen.
@kittygirl-lm7tf
@kittygirl-lm7tf 4 года назад
*Thinks about my own public bus service and cringes*
@alaric_
@alaric_ 4 года назад
As a car mechanic, this episode hit hard. Being the person the driver counts on, there really is a huge responsibility on your shoulders and it doesn't matter if it's "just" a small passenger car. You really have to do your work so that if something fails, it's the part because that rare and you can feel that you did everything right. No skipping steps or using beatup nuts/bolts in critical brake parts etc. And especially so if it's a bus with dozens of people at any given time!!! Luckily where i live the people that repair heavy trucks and busses are required to have advanced training in addition to the standard car mechanic training....
@HELLRZR-nm3vv
@HELLRZR-nm3vv 3 года назад
Buses in India are terrifying. Without the mad, steep windy roads even.
@catmaxwell6691
@catmaxwell6691 2 года назад
Just watched this. Grew up in Verdun, Quebec. By the time they inspected the buses, I’d taken field trips to Quebec City, & Ottawa, & day trips throughout Montreal on these charters, & I’m shook that we were so lucky. Some of those vehicles HAD to be bad, statically. Oi!
@hebneh
@hebneh 7 лет назад
"Asbestos" is an unfortunate name for a town.
@DarianCaplinger
@DarianCaplinger 3 года назад
Yep, I was just thinking the same thing, "Asbestos kills."
@PhoenixMoth
@PhoenixMoth Год назад
True 😢
@jenniferpesquera648
@jenniferpesquera648 Год назад
Yep. True
@khalilrichardson491
@khalilrichardson491 Год назад
Named after the well known carcinogen used as an insulation building material
@pillettadoinswartsh4974
@pillettadoinswartsh4974 4 года назад
"The bus had no safety brake" "The bus was full of disabled kids" ...............and I stop watching.
@rapman5363
@rapman5363 3 года назад
The disabled were not only kids. Mostly they were adults.
@EdouardPicard0224
@EdouardPicard0224 3 года назад
I'm from Eastman, Quebec and i'm seeing this for the first time. I live a minute away from where the accident took place. I always heard about the Bus Crash but i never actually saw it.
@wjatube
@wjatube 3 года назад
"Friends, relatives, media and the morbidly curious." I think I know which group most of us would belong.
@BadDayHQ
@BadDayHQ 3 года назад
They use to sell tickets to people to watch two retiring trains collide with each other at state fairs. They sold a lot of tickets. I think we still like to watch train wrecks. Though I hope we also learn from these stories to make our world better.
@natashiajones6523
@natashiajones6523 6 лет назад
Probably not the best thing to watch before I take a 22 hour greyhound trip.
@beverlyarcher3744
@beverlyarcher3744 6 лет назад
Our power steering and brakes gave out on us bus driver had to really apply pressure just to get it to stop which I feel bad for the EMS when they came with their steering and we couldn't pull over they ended up going around us not one bit happy the brakes acted up then it wasn't till we hit the city we lost both luckily we managed to safely get to a restaurant the downer was it took 3 hours for another bus to pick us up to continue the trip to Caswell for our week of youth group we missed the first night of activities but we were lucky compared to these guys
@corettaha7855
@corettaha7855 5 лет назад
Natashia Jones I bet it was entirely uneventful. Shows like this will prepare you for a much more dramatic life than you’re likely to lead, thank God!
@195511SM
@195511SM 5 лет назад
In the late 1990s, I won a 3-day Carnival cruise in a Halloween costume contest. I remember renting the movie 'Titanic' a couple of days before leaving. My cabin was on the very bottom deck....closest to the bow, and on the right side of the ship.......the same spot that the iceberg was believed to have ripped the hull of the Titanic open.
@smittysmeee
@smittysmeee 4 года назад
Did you live????
@racheljennings8548
@racheljennings8548 3 года назад
Not the best try not to think about it
@nicholealderfer191
@nicholealderfer191 6 лет назад
What is tragic about this to me is the good people who volunteered their time to helping others and some lost their lives. These people really tried to make this world a better place. They gave back to the world. Lost their lives trying to bring joy to others.
@JCTiggs1
@JCTiggs1 5 лет назад
Well you know what they say, "God works in mysterious ways.." 🙄
@petermontagnon4440
@petermontagnon4440 5 лет назад
Very sad!! I worked on buses and transport trucks and never took any short cuts even if they tried to hurry me up. If my name went on that vehicle or trailer ...I knew it was safe!!!!
@ShaneKarma376
@ShaneKarma376 6 лет назад
Asbestos, Quebec??? Is that near Lead Poisoning, Alberta?
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 6 лет назад
Asbestos used to be considered a wonder material like carbon fibre.
@capie44
@capie44 6 лет назад
Almost dead center of there and Tetnus Quebec. :-D
@robertfolkner9253
@robertfolkner9253 6 лет назад
ShaneKarma376 +Asbestos was the first place where it was mined, starting in 1898.
@Tindometari
@Tindometari 6 лет назад
Well, Quebec is north of Vermont, and Alberta is north of Idaho ... so no. :) There are no funny-named towns nearby, but Lac-Megantic, which had a hideous train derailment, explosion, and fire not too far back, is close by.
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 6 лет назад
I mean, if you want funny town names, come to Lancaster County in Pennsylvania. we have a town called Bird-in-Hand and another called Intercourse.
@theangrykorean5194
@theangrykorean5194 7 лет назад
I really like this channel but it makes me so sad to see these disasters play out the way they do...the worst things happen to the most innocent and loveable people. thank you for sharing these videos~
@corettaha7855
@corettaha7855 5 лет назад
The Angry Korean they don’t seem all that lovable to me, but about as good as the rest of us.
@MisTracy39TheVeganLady
@MisTracy39TheVeganLady 3 года назад
You should see the one about the "Triangle Shirt Waste Factory" .. I think that's 'Seconds From Disaster .. check it out .. all those young girls died.
@11pmeade
@11pmeade 7 лет назад
At 8:03, I wouldn't want to go down that hill in a bus and try to stop at that intersection.
@jaysmith1408
@jaysmith1408 5 лет назад
patricia crawling you could. Would be a lot to ask of the brakes to go down quickly, should be going town in 1st (maybe 2nd) with full engine brakes. That’s on a good day with everything working. I’ll armchair quarterback this and say if it had run away from me, i’d try to roll it. At least it’s on land, you’d have all night to get the people out.
@MisTracy39TheVeganLady
@MisTracy39TheVeganLady 5 лет назад
I wouldn't want to drive down that hill .. period!😉👍🏽
@mlee6050
@mlee6050 3 года назад
For me if had a higher hill or ditch on side when know not got good enough brakes I would of been tried that, agree with the flip bus but think he thought water stop it sooner and less dangerous, if wasn’t so deep where end up might of survived, next time have superman on bus like kid from the film ...
@EdouardPicard0224
@EdouardPicard0224 3 года назад
I drove that hill many times while it's frozen in winter. the representation makes it look way worse than it actually is. It's not that bad.
@meerkatandpug
@meerkatandpug 6 лет назад
So they set off with dodgy brakes and a sticky throttle. Very sensible!
@dondajulah4168
@dondajulah4168 4 года назад
Yeah, but who would have thought they would have needed brakes on that ride?
@SilverWalker84
@SilverWalker84 5 лет назад
That's got to be the worst possible hill in the history of hills to not have brakes on
@spideywhiplash
@spideywhiplash 4 года назад
😂😂😂
@EdouardPicard0224
@EdouardPicard0224 3 года назад
There's rail guards now where the crash took place
@EdouardPicard0224
@EdouardPicard0224 3 года назад
Also they make the hill look worse than it actually is, it doesn't look like the representation.
@lemontea128
@lemontea128 4 года назад
I don't get it. They found out that the break was removed. So did the ahole owner get charged!? He should be. He was the reason these innocent people lost their lives.
@jasondavid5975
@jasondavid5975 3 года назад
the HAND BRAKE. you can drive without one, it's not essential and more for parking. it's only called an "emergency brake" by Americans and really isn't meant for such a use
@tuxitalk4-tuxipolitixpage772
@tuxitalk4-tuxipolitixpage772 3 года назад
@@jasondavid5975 It does work as a brake though, depending on the situation. I know of three people who used it when the other brakes fail. The dangers of using it are losing control of the car, the car flipping from the sudden stop and physical injury risk from the force of a sudden stop. Luckily for all three, they were at a relatively low level decline in the road surface and were not traveling at a high speed.
@jacobblack9600
@jacobblack9600 3 года назад
@@jasondavid5975 lol you don't understand air brakes or commercial vehicles. Good try though
@adammcdonald3632
@adammcdonald3632 3 года назад
@@jacobblack9600 Please explain. From what I know about air brakes, the parking brakes are applied by releasing the air from the system, allowing the springs in the chambers to apply the brakes. The only "hand brake" I'm familiar with is in commercial semis to apply the trailer brakes independent of the tractor brakes, called the trolley bar or Johnson Bar.
@lordbrucelondonuk7304
@lordbrucelondonuk7304 6 лет назад
The Bus Owner Should Be In Jail For Murder
@alexse-barre5464
@alexse-barre5464 4 года назад
He has a business to run...
@carlcushmanhybels8159
@carlcushmanhybels8159 4 года назад
@@alexse-barre5464 To run into a lake.
@jasondavid5975
@jasondavid5975 3 года назад
it's not murder, at most it's involuntary manslaughter.
@nenblom
@nenblom 4 года назад
If the bus had such mechanical issues, it should NEVER have been put back into service! I know that most likely would have affected the outing but safety must ALWAYS come first!! BTW, was this near Lac Megantic? I’ve been there. They had a horrible accident as well a few years ago due to a runaway freight train. I believe the downtown area was wiped out. So sad.
@maggiemargaret1412
@maggiemargaret1412 4 года назад
What kind of mindset does one have to have, to get a phone call telling you many people are possibly drowned and dead in a bus accident and you think it's a joke and hang up? Seriously, I wonder this. There was another bus accident also in Quebec that killed 44 seniors....it's on this same channel. I believe it happened in the 90's and it was due to faulty breaks as well. We hear of these type accidents in Pakistan, India and other countries in the Middle East a lot...way too much for my thinking...I didn't know there were so many in our hemisphere as well. I've heard of a few in the United States, where the roads are narrow and curvy if you are off the highway traveling to tourist towns, but none as deadly as these....though it is more likely, I just missed hearing about them.
@SteveBueche1027
@SteveBueche1027 5 лет назад
If only the one back brake was working surely the driver had to have felt this while braking before that hill.
@garyjohalasmr727
@garyjohalasmr727 5 лет назад
BEST CHANNEL ON RU-vid SIR! THE NARRATOR VOICE IS SO SOOTHING AND RELAXING!!
@equarg
@equarg 7 лет назад
What the hell was that mechanic THINKING putting a bus back on the road with brake problems AND no way to activate the emergency breaks to boot! Tell me the company and mechanic got punished............. I did my own brakes on my 93 Subaru....and damn made sure a Professional double checked my work! One brake pad was slightly crooked, but other then that he was impressed a girl (with car repair manual) did everything herself! I bleed and refilled the brake fluid my self too and the car drove and had excellent brakes for years afterwards!
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 7 лет назад
As the man who taught me mechanics said, it's a sod if they don'r go, a disaster if they won't stop. The driver should have refused to take the vehicle out. A a profesional bus driver it's beyond beilif. even at that age of vehicle, I drive a lot older vintage buses safley. And the first thing you do is a controlled brake check.
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 5 лет назад
@@agems56 that would destroy the engine.
@peterf.229
@peterf.229 5 лет назад
@@GiordanDiodato no ti would break the transmission
@peterf.229
@peterf.229 5 лет назад
the Ebrake will not stop the bus even on a flat surface if its moving, much more than idle speed that isn't the job of it. with so few working brakes it might not have done anything even if installed. the driver was an idiot for not trying to slow the bus down via mechanical braking, IE engine braking.
@MrsRosencranz1
@MrsRosencranz1 5 лет назад
@@GiordanDiodato Yes!!! Better the engine than the people. Jeeze
@annalavransdattar5935
@annalavransdattar5935 7 лет назад
The back- stories is what makes these so well- done. Heart- wrenching.
@jannamyers6792
@jannamyers6792 3 года назад
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@uglygirldoes2420
@uglygirldoes2420 7 лет назад
I'm not saying that they made the wrong choices or what choice I'd make but to say these people didn't have choices is bullshit. You don't just let go of someone who is drowning without making a choice. There is a choice. It isn't a good or easy one but it IS a fucking choice.
@STARDRIVE
@STARDRIVE 4 года назад
Checked the site on Google maps. No parked cars to crash into for slowing down, and a ¨beach¨ almost shorter than the bus itself. Not much to work with. Doors getting shut by the water pressure, and it must be near impossible to find en emergency exit in a pitch black, panic filled tomb. (If there were any.)
@jnwd1723
@jnwd1723 6 лет назад
Absolutely Unconscionable!!! Never, ever do you risk the lives of the handicapped by letting them travel in an unsafe vehicle. Disgusting how little thought goes in to safety. A bus better darn well have a good functional braking system at all times!!! This is such a terrible story. People in charge not using their brains...thinking nothing bad will go wrong.
@schweizerd6303
@schweizerd6303 5 лет назад
very little has been put into safety back then regardless of where you look; think about back in the early to mid 20th century, you have 4 or 5 construction workers riding on an I-Beam hoisted up by a crane to the top of a skyscraper by clinging onto it, they were iron workers and they had no hard hats nor safety harnesses and that was totally acceptable and the norm. safety became a lot more stringent only within the last 30-40 years or so and always comes with a price
@pjhaze
@pjhaze 4 года назад
Who cares about safety, when money is involved! Way more important to these people
@elizabethsohler1847
@elizabethsohler1847 4 года назад
You shouldn't risk anyone's life that way it doesn't MATTER whether they are handicapped or not.
@racheljennings8548
@racheljennings8548 3 года назад
@@schweizerd6303 That reminds me of that famous photo of those workers having lunch in NY sitting happily on a beam. Safety back then uh?
@ArchTeryx00
@ArchTeryx00 5 лет назад
The driver had the right idea in theory, but the lake's own topography guaranteed that in execution it would kill just about everybody. This is a case where hindsight is heartrending. Had he tried a sharp turn and used the *beach* (as narrow as it was) to slow down instead, the bus might have turned over, and a lot of injuries sustained, but many lives would have been saved. Even if he turned it over _in the shallows of the lake_, most if not all would have survived. But he did the *worst* possible thing, and that was angle it straight into the lake. The moment the bus crossed the lakebed dropoff, they were all doomed. But any of us might have done the same, not knowing the lake topography and having to make a literally split-second decision. Using the water to cushion the impact was a sound idea in the moment. It was what you couldn't see that made it a lethal one.
@statikk666
@statikk666 5 лет назад
Agree. In hindsight, his choice was poor but he did the best he could.
@corettaha7855
@corettaha7855 5 лет назад
Archibald Mirenopteryx or everyone might have been killed by injuries from flipping at high speed. Seems like he did a good thing trying to prevent that.
@mikebronicki6978
@mikebronicki6978 4 года назад
I am amazed it travelled 75 meters into the water. I think they said it was only doing 64kph? I would expect 25 meters, tops. I guess it acted more like a boat than a bus.
@dacypher22
@dacypher22 4 года назад
@@mikebronicki6978 I think that is what happened. And it is sad because like the OP said, in theory it wasn't a bad idea. People were standing in the aisle and surely not a single seat had a seatbelt. So if he had hit the tree or flipped the bus, people were going to die and others would have been horribly injured. In a flat-nosed bus, you would expect the bus could possibly even be stopped without going over 5 or 6 feet of water. But the worst case scenario happened and the bus "skipped" on the surface far from shore.
@redbeardnc6684
@redbeardnc6684 6 лет назад
7:52 nice graphics. It's a shame they couldn't navigate that 85 degree drop in the road at the end lol
@markcox1028
@markcox1028 5 лет назад
I got 2 adverts for underwater watches while this video played. RU-vids money making agenda can be quite heartless.
@donaldpalmer6625
@donaldpalmer6625 5 лет назад
I wonder what kind of bus company would have a bus run with only 1 brake working and no emergency brake.
@celticlofts
@celticlofts 5 лет назад
Those safety checks might be a pain in the ass but they are there to protect everyone including the driver who might feel under pressure to take a bus out that might not be road worthy. At least lessons were learned from this terrible tragedy.
@bluelightfox
@bluelightfox 7 лет назад
Though the brake failure was the primary cause of the crash, the driver should've noticed the bus pulling to one side as it would have if only one brake was working. Starting down that hill was a huge mistake. Also, more people would have survived if someone had realized that those who can't swim can at least stay afloat by lying on their backs until help arrived. Someone who knew how to swim could've shouted that and started getting people out. Sadly, when people start panicking things only get worse. I can't really blame them, just the guy who left the brake job unfinished.
@jeanneewaseck3987
@jeanneewaseck3987 7 лет назад
Good traveling point, #MichaelMatthews
@ferretrunner09
@ferretrunner09 7 лет назад
Water rescue isn’t easy. If you’re not a solid swimmer, you won’t be able to haul someone. You also need to know the techniques Also, people panic. A flailing person can drag a would be rescuer can be pulled down and drown as well.
@TheRoguelement
@TheRoguelement 6 лет назад
I'm thinking the brake failure didn't happen till the down hill because he would have easily noticed he had one rear brake on the 100 + or so KM trip to the Theater .. Right ?
@kfstreich4787
@kfstreich4787 6 лет назад
Michael Laverty I wondered what the form of failure was, it could very well have been low air pressure since the buss hadn't been running long, or repeated applications on the hill. I got to that part, strange to only have one brake. That is something that you would notice.
@nicholealderfer191
@nicholealderfer191 6 лет назад
Since I have always been able to swim, and never had lessons, parents left me unsupervised in our pool at four part Native American, I forgot for those that cannot their is an option of floating. I've floated before just like you said lying on your back. Its really easy to do. Basic water skills should be taught to everybody its really not hard to swim or float and that so many don't know how to do so is concerning to me. I never had lessons, I think some people over think swimming, its just putting one arm over the next. You can get fancy with it, as I know how to do various swims but at its foundation its just simply putting one arm over the next and basically paddling through water.
@Venuszenith
@Venuszenith 5 лет назад
Tragic accident a lot of people saved themselves here bus driver two priests? woman climbing over disabled people?
@DrJ-hx7wv
@DrJ-hx7wv 5 лет назад
Was the area that deserted? It wasn't that far offshore. A strong swimmer could have quickly gone ashore and banged on doors for boats or help. Am I being unreasonable here? Besides that, I think I'd do the same thing as the driver, even thinking the sand will slow me down like it does on runaway truck ramps. Who would ever think the bus would "skip" over the water?
@judyvalencia3257
@judyvalencia3257 4 года назад
So was the mechanic or the bus owner held liable for the deaths?
@FloozieOne
@FloozieOne 6 лет назад
I can't imagine not being able to swim. From the beginning we always spent the summers at my grandparents' home on Narragansett Bay in RI. I think I could swim before I could walk properly, at least that is what my father told me. Being in the water is as natural as being on land, but other factors were in play here. Disabilities certainly doomed most of the dead, but the inability to get out the door because of the water pressure and the panic the people felt did for the rest. At least, as in all disasters of this type, there was some good that came out of it. Only 37 of 147 buses were deemed safe. There could have, and almost certainly would have, been more fatal accidents if the laws coming out of this crash had not been ordered by the province.
@corettaha7855
@corettaha7855 5 лет назад
Holly Rockwell a lot of people can’t. It depends on your culture and resources. You’re lucky. Hope you value it.
@tessfabled4115
@tessfabled4115 4 года назад
Same here, it's wild that some people don't know how to swim, and also extremely sad how that played a role in this incident :(
@carlcushmanhybels8159
@carlcushmanhybels8159 4 года назад
A lot of people aren't trained well to swim & don't have opportunities. Swimming, btw, is one area where women/girls have an advantage: Higher natural fat content makes it much easier to float, then swim. I remember my mom being surprised her slim boys thrashed and sank, not floated like her.
@Kenny-re8ko
@Kenny-re8ko 3 года назад
I remember when this tragedy happened, news coverage of all the victims in the hockey arena. Asbestos was the site of one of the most bitter labour disputes in Cdn history back in the 1949'. Johns Manville owned the mine. Canada's Harlan County.
@58fins
@58fins 7 лет назад
That animation looks like South Park!
@BadDayHQ
@BadDayHQ 7 лет назад
I am not sure that's good or bad but the show is over 10 years old so computer generated animation was not well developed then.
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 6 лет назад
well it is almost 20 years old...
@rogermcgroggan9442
@rogermcgroggan9442 4 года назад
Oh my god they've killed Kenny 😯😯😯😯
@pamelaclark5611
@pamelaclark5611 7 лет назад
Didn't the mechanic go to jail???
@MrWombatty
@MrWombatty 5 лет назад
Would've thought he'd be found guilty of criminal negligence!
@howardjonesjr7388
@howardjonesjr7388 4 года назад
Could you do a video on the 1988 Carrollton Kentucky bus crash/fire? Worst drunk driving crash in US history and it's hardly ever mentioned anywhere.
@alf513
@alf513 6 лет назад
wait if this is the second worst bus disaster in canadian history, what is the worst bus disaster?
@simonrichard9873
@simonrichard9873 5 лет назад
Les Éboulements accident en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Les_%C3%89boulements_bus_accident
@amykeat4447
@amykeat4447 2 года назад
Rest in peace passengers that didn't survive
@BrucexfromxCanada
@BrucexfromxCanada 7 лет назад
In Quebec, this is called > Havng been here for so many years, it is very familiar1 "Joy of living" Originally born during WWII in Ottawa, and raised to the age of 11 in Oakville On, at the time the richest town in Canada - 10000 people, one French family from France, when I cam to Quebec, I was in for a BIG surprise, much more than merely the French Language! The rest is a very long, complex and endearing story, but if I were to type the whole thing here, I lkiely would have to split it and paste-post it in MANY sections just to get it uploaded!
@bigp3521
@bigp3521 5 лет назад
Low gear that shit! Use the engine to brake!
@brittneycaswell1991
@brittneycaswell1991 Год назад
May the victims rest in peace on the bus crash
@julymiller2308
@julymiller2308 4 года назад
Maurice was right. It was completely preventable.
@kareybarey13
@kareybarey13 6 лет назад
the name of the city is a bad sign.
@sparkspl
@sparkspl 6 лет назад
English isn't my first language, towns name is Asbestos?!
@jamie91995
@jamie91995 6 лет назад
ANTI ASMR asbestos is a substance that was a miracle, it was heat resistant, insulating, etc. but it turns out it was made up of a bunch of micro fibers that are very sharp and jagged that, when inhaled, would tear up your lungs, it’s like inhaling glass shards.
@kfstreich4787
@kfstreich4787 6 лет назад
Solid asbestos isn't bad, it's the fluffy form that gives off dust.
@jenniferryersejones9876
@jenniferryersejones9876 3 года назад
@@sparkspl As of October, 2020, renamed Val-des-Sources.
@capie44
@capie44 6 лет назад
It's so comforting to hear Father Mulcahey's voice again * sniff *
@MrWombatty
@MrWombatty 5 лет назад
So I wasn't the only person to recognise his voice!
@u2bbastard
@u2bbastard 4 года назад
All this jocularity is inappropriate for the content!
@casperrabbit7254
@casperrabbit7254 7 лет назад
Wait, so do you make all these episodes yourself? That's incredible! These are so interesting...
@hoss73ford
@hoss73ford 7 лет назад
Unfortunately this kind of thing happens in the USA all the time. There is still litigation in the courts going on over these. Fly by night operators who cut corners on maintenance and hire drivers who are unqualified or are overworked, falsifying record of duty status(logbooks) & one of the most recent crashes had an immigrant driver who didn't have a valid license to drive in the USA. I won't ever ride on one of those tour buses as their reputation is quite deadly.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 7 лет назад
Same has happned in Europe. To many companies trying to do things on the cheap employing drivers not trained to the standard expected. So what has happened? A Mickey Mouse piece of legislation called the Driver's Certificate Of Proffesional Competence. I have to spend 7 hours a year in a classroom listening to some total shite on something that has nothing to do with actual driving, in fact the courses specificaly exclude driving a vehicle. No exam at the end or anything. I could spend the entire time asleep. Why ? Because EEC regulations means that a a proffesional licence from some other member state with no standards or saftey culture must be recoginised.
@ElTurbinado
@ElTurbinado 6 лет назад
As a us citizen I can confirm that busses full of retards are almost constantly plummeting into lakes.
@apatheticaesthetic.
@apatheticaesthetic. 5 лет назад
Mark Muffs ; a fatal crash just like you described happened near Albany, NY a few months ago..so sad.
@alisonsavill1179
@alisonsavill1179 6 лет назад
It sickens me to think they don’t do anything right till someone dies
@dpring777
@dpring777 5 лет назад
I wonder why it's called an emergency brake? Whatever, I guess I don't need it!!!
@Crashed131963
@Crashed131963 7 лет назад
To be fair when was the last time you used your emergency brake on your car or truck.
@cardinaloflannagancr8929
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 6 лет назад
Very true unless you're driving a manual it is very common to have the e-brake stick when you finally use it or get an inspection performed. Due to lack of use, corrosion etc..
@stnlong73
@stnlong73 5 лет назад
To be fair, your question misses the point of the hand brake not working. I never use the hand brake but I sure would want it to work if my brakes would go and maybe the use of a working hand brake would of slowed the bus enough so that it wouldn't of going into the lake as far.
@kennethblack314
@kennethblack314 5 лет назад
Living in the snow belt, I'm used to down-shifting for better control on snow/ice (despite all of the city signs that say "No Engine Braking." Another option to brakes.
@brandonmoen3632
@brandonmoen3632 3 года назад
I set my emergency brake everytime I park
@JohnDLeo-rg8tc
@JohnDLeo-rg8tc 3 года назад
A story of greed, incompetence, selfishness and cowardice! Disgusting!
@BritanniaPacific
@BritanniaPacific 4 года назад
The bus depicted appears to be an mc-9. Far too new for 1978.
@gorillaau
@gorillaau 4 года назад
Budget constraints by the program. Substitutes have to be made when you can't get the real deal.
@gorillaau
@gorillaau 4 года назад
@@trentcruise3084 Too expensive to have medical staff on standby and the safety officers are a pain in the butt to get them to sign off.
@jrtej9575
@jrtej9575 3 года назад
Bus looks like a 4104.
@mjc11a
@mjc11a 7 лет назад
This bus should have been banned from public roads.
@maeganbyerley
@maeganbyerley 7 лет назад
I have Epilepsy and I know how to swim. Also I have a good paying job and a family. I was diagnosed with Epilepsy 25 yrs ago.
@ferretrunner09
@ferretrunner09 7 лет назад
I have a seizure disorder as well. I hate swimming now. I’m always worried I’ll have a seizure. I used to be a lifeguard and triathlete. Thank you brain Injury
@ShaneKarma376
@ShaneKarma376 6 лет назад
@DaleDix
@DaleDix 6 лет назад
I was diagnosed 25 years ago too went to university and everything. Now there's no more meds. Shit can hit the fan at any time.
@Tsumami__
@Tsumami__ 6 лет назад
Dale D CDB oil. One of the main things it’s effective for is seizures.
@playerssteven9969
@playerssteven9969 5 лет назад
@Walkin' Tall thanks .😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎👲👲👲👲👲👲👶👶👶👶👶👶😖😖😖😖😖😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😼😼😼😼😼😼
@cardinaloflannagancr8929
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 6 лет назад
He may not have been able to do a 90 degree turn but what about cutting the wheel as soon as it passes over the road and hits dirt/mud and or sand. Even if it were to roll do so with the door facing up and have it locked open before entering the water. Also only one brake out of 4 was working, how could you not notice until coming down the hill. How did he even get commercial certified none the less an air-brake endorsement.
@HELLRZR-nm3vv
@HELLRZR-nm3vv 3 года назад
This was by far the hardest one I have ever watched. Lord, my whole aching heart to the families and community..🧡💚💙💛
@flyguy5941
@flyguy5941 4 года назад
So was there any charges filed against the bus owner?
@pandaphil
@pandaphil 7 лет назад
I really hope the owner of that bus company got a nice long prison sentence. That being said, who designs a steep, downhill road that points out to sea? Talk about an accident waiting to happen. Hell why didn't they just build a ramp at the bottom and finish the job?
@BadDayHQ
@BadDayHQ 7 лет назад
good point
@cardinaloflannagancr8929
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 6 лет назад
Not really a good point, more of blaming a nameless-faceless entity. Check with the design engineer or a design engineer and you would be given actual reasons.
@pandaphil
@pandaphil 6 лет назад
I'd be very interested in hearing how building a roadway that would cause anyone with brake issues to be shot out into the bay is a reasonable design choice.
@cardinaloflannagancr8929
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 6 лет назад
That would probably be why your not a civil or design engineer. Where you have to consider the logistics, grading of land labor and equipment to do so, cost on and on of doing something "the reasonable way". What about train tracks at the bottom of a hill for example.
@pandaphil
@pandaphil 6 лет назад
An you are I suppose?
@JoanneLG1960
@JoanneLG1960 5 лет назад
The survivors made no attempt to help anyone but themselves is made quite clear
@kiymberly1990
@kiymberly1990 5 лет назад
I thought the same thing. I work with disabled people and you can bet that if something bad happend while I was with them I would do absolutely everything I could do save their lives!
@KristenHammerback-pk5wy
@KristenHammerback-pk5wy 4 года назад
@@kiymberly1990 You don't know what you will do until you are in a situation like this. You sound very self-righteous. You have No Idea, None.
@Kiinell
@Kiinell 3 года назад
Next time you're in a sinking bus in the pitch dark 80 metres from shore simply grab a handicapped person, or two and swim them home. No probs.
@janicesullivan8942
@janicesullivan8942 3 года назад
I don’t fault those like the girl who only knew how to dog paddle, it’s the able bodied who should have tried to do more.
@FinnishLapphund
@FinnishLapphund Год назад
Trying to help but failing, is not the same as making no attempt at all. I think some did try to help others, just not in the way you think they should've done it. If that first swimmer had found someone onboard that sailboat, or if it hadn't been locked to a chain, maybe he could've used it to get back to the bus to help others. And he did help that tired swimmer to safety onboard the sailboat, before continuing to swim to try to find help. The priest did try to help the student priest, but it was beyond his ability. The husband who lost both wife, and son, said he did try to find them in the darkness, and water inside the bus, but couldn't in time before he had to leave. They were in shock, some panicked, and they only had a limited time window to react on. The pressure from the water outside of the vehicle is an obstacle that a lot of persons probably underestimate. On top of that, they were wearing ordinary clothes, and shoes, which most likely quickly started to absorb water, thereby becoming heavier, and basically acting like something trying to pull them down. And since it's not salt water in the lake, they got no help with buoyancy that way either.
@erynlasgalen1949
@erynlasgalen1949 4 года назад
Jeez, what is it about Quebec, tour buses, and steep hills?
@BadDayHQ
@BadDayHQ 4 года назад
There does seem to be a lot of accidents in that province with buses.
@schweizerd6303
@schweizerd6303 5 лет назад
did the driver even consider downshifting or engine braking? seems like he was totally unprepared for any emergencies
@simonrichard9873
@simonrichard9873 5 лет назад
Most of these buses had automatic transmissions
@roguedalek900
@roguedalek900 4 года назад
These busses have automatic transmission. They don't have much engine braking capability with automatics. And decesnding it would already be in low gear and diesels dont by nature have good compression breaking ability .
@davidhudson5452
@davidhudson5452 4 года назад
i am a bus driver and old line mechanic always do a brake check the mechanic? should be in prison forever no accidents from brakes not working ever
@elizabethgrable4384
@elizabethgrable4384 7 лет назад
This is just to depressing even for a show about death and disaster. A bus full of disabled adults dying is depressing.
@sethytrashroad2561
@sethytrashroad2561 6 лет назад
sorry about that, I was trying to be funny by making things so edgy it would eventually be the Aristocrats
@daniellilly840
@daniellilly840 5 лет назад
I don’t know, it may just b me, but from what I’ve seen so far, it seem like the only country that has disasters is French Canada. We yanks have our share of disasters too, u know. As do every nation on Earth.
@Faded-Tales-PreviouslyHarley
@Faded-Tales-PreviouslyHarley 3 года назад
Yeah, but this was a Canadian show they bought the rights to.
@mattymayhem1232
@mattymayhem1232 3 года назад
That Lucy lady with the bandana dodged and juked her way off the bus, she stiff armed anyone who got in her way. Lol. Tragic story but you gotta do what you gotta do.
@MsRen-gk1yn
@MsRen-gk1yn 7 лет назад
So very sad 😥
@CR-yl8cs
@CR-yl8cs 5 лет назад
13:40 wait why didn’t they let him go back to save his wife and kid? It’s water, not lava
@freemindthinkerezrapound5071
@freemindthinkerezrapound5071 5 лет назад
Seems like the only physical handicapped people were the abled people who all survived
@corettaha7855
@corettaha7855 5 лет назад
freemindthinker ezrapound are you trying to live up to Ezra pound? Or can you legit not write a sentence in a human language?
@CMDRFandragon
@CMDRFandragon 5 лет назад
When he was in the Army, my dad got assigned a Duece and a half truck that had really bad brakes after disgruntled vehicle depot workers sabotaged the Company vehicles. My dad said hell no he would not drive that. He and his unit was going out to the field to do whatever they do. The depot workers got out of going to the field that day but got their asses busted later.
@georgelake4599
@georgelake4599 4 года назад
Do you or a loved one suffer from methliolioma from asbestos, you may be entitled to compensation
@tylerdurden4006
@tylerdurden4006 3 года назад
So I see a lot adults that are capable of swimming but had empty arms to get to the shore. I could never leave a child like that if I could swim and had arms...and they don't blame the driver? He helped with still driving while having multiple brake problems....
@beverlyarcher3744
@beverlyarcher3744 6 лет назад
First thing i would teach any family member who doesn't know how to swim to swim or at least how to stay afloat in the water Idc if their afraid of the water you never know when learning to swim will save your life I learned the doggy paddle when i learned how to swim it was what my brother taught me and has saved me when I got a foot cramp while swimming in the deep end
@carmenmcalistet5452
@carmenmcalistet5452 4 года назад
All these disabled people died but they saved themselves.
@howardjonesjr7388
@howardjonesjr7388 4 года назад
Could you do a video on the 1988 Carrollton bus crash? Worst drunk driving crash in US history and people seem to have completely forgotten about it
@juliuscaesarroman5227
@juliuscaesarroman5227 5 лет назад
When this happens apply Engine brake, drop to the 1st gear and release your clutch and let the engine slow the bus. Geeze
@alison4316
@alison4316 5 лет назад
I'm pretty sure it was an automatic transmission....
@schweizerd6303
@schweizerd6303 5 лет назад
@@alison4316 every automatic transmission vehicles that i owned before had a D, 3rd, 2nd and 1st gear. I use 2nd for descending steep hills and 1st for very steep hills
@alison4316
@alison4316 5 лет назад
@@schweizerd6303 Agreed, but the original comment said 'clutch" ...
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 4 года назад
that's a good way to destroy your transmission.
@MrTaxiRob
@MrTaxiRob 5 лет назад
KNOW YOUR TRADE. This is why we have special training for commercial drivers nowadays.
@jenniferryersejones9876
@jenniferryersejones9876 3 года назад
As of mid-October, 2020, Asbestos became Val-des-Sources (Valley of the Springs), as voted for by the majority of the community. :)
@BadDayHQ
@BadDayHQ 3 года назад
Thanks for the update.
@jenniferryersejones9876
@jenniferryersejones9876 3 года назад
@@BadDayHQ Quite welcome.
@KruskDerTank
@KruskDerTank 6 лет назад
I actually would've gone and hit the tree , flip the bus or when the bus were closer to the water , turn sharp so it could flip in the water or if lucky the bus would stay up right and float to the side in stead of going to the middle of the lake.
@1978garfield
@1978garfield 6 лет назад
Running a bus into a lake sounds insane to me. I could maybe see that if your other choice was a gasoline tanker. But given the choice between rolling a bus on the dry land or putting it in a lake, I am taking the dry land every time.
@KruskDerTank
@KruskDerTank 6 лет назад
Having to break your bone , getting a few scratches or being put in a wheelchair for lifetime is always better than losing your life.
@jamie91995
@jamie91995 6 лет назад
Comrade_RR so there were three main choices 1: go into the lake and hope you’ll stop soon or in this case, go far out and sink, likely drowning. 2: crash into the tree, killing and injuring many 3: flip the bus and potentially hurt/kill many people
@nicholealderfer191
@nicholealderfer191 6 лет назад
The Jeffrey 27 their really wasn't a way to stop this tragedy by the driver, outcomes would have been the same in all three scenerios you listed. As someone that has been in a vehicle as a kid that flipped over a guardrail and I was eventually thrown out, I have scars to this day but mentally they are as fresh as it happened, the ambulance driver said we were lucky none of us were killed, he had responded a few weeks earlier to not such a fatal accident over a roll over vehicle and everyone on board died, we all lived. I don't drive because of it and hate being in a moving vehicle. According to witnesses I was the last to be thrown out, don't remember be thrown out because I was unconscious by the time I was. Also if the driver crashed into the tree he would have most likely instantly been killed.
@evagotthis87
@evagotthis87 3 года назад
This so sad. I really want to watch this show ,but there's so many commercials, I'm losing track of what's on on. But what I was able to understand that this was so tragic. R.I.P to all those souls.
@BadDayHQ
@BadDayHQ 3 года назад
Eva, as producers we have no control over the placement and timing of the commercials. That is done by the platform. We just upload the material.
@samuelrizzari994
@samuelrizzari994 5 лет назад
If I was that mechanic I would have done the same thing. In this industry you absolutely have to meet deadlines, and the brakes did work when it left his shop. Also the bus was filled with disabled people, so this is the best case scenario when it comes to bus crashes. Disabled people usually don't work or pay taxes so this was like a bucket of freeloaders being dumped into the water.
@theothertroll
@theothertroll 7 лет назад
Yea, who needs brakes on a big-ass tour bus ~ ? Looks like going into the lake was a dumb--ass decision ~ driver, you're fired~
@dacypher22
@dacypher22 4 года назад
I understand for the handicapped riders, but why were so many of the non-handicapped adults unable to swim? Seriously, if you are an adult and you don't know how to swim, sign up for lessons. You don't have to become an Olympic swimmer. I actually disagree with what the video says, that the one lady "didn't know how to swim, but could doggy paddle". Doggy paddling is almost all you need to save your own life and it absolutely is swimming. Learn how to do it!
@saravis56
@saravis56 5 лет назад
Those poor people.
@alisonsavill1179
@alisonsavill1179 6 лет назад
They don’t care about the disables at all
@usmale4915
@usmale4915 4 года назад
Absolutely horrific! A bus, hand brake removed and obviously someone that probably should not have been driving. There are no words to describe this tragedy! And the owner isn't even charged with anything at all! No more bus trips for me ever!
@janetduncan87
@janetduncan87 3 года назад
Was there no way for him to put the bus in neutral?
@BadDayHQ
@BadDayHQ 3 года назад
Not sure Janet.
@Tracy137
@Tracy137 4 года назад
So the driver didn't drive into the tree only to save himself (that was the real reason, come on; he knew he'd be severely injured at best and most likely killed) and the other guy and the driver both saved themselves immediately and left everyone else to drown under the lie of "we're going to fetch help".......yeah, right. Very much saving themselves alone - they should've been charged with manslaughter, as well the owner of the bus company for running substandard buses AND the mechanic for not bothering to do his damn job! The guy who was first off the bus and saved himself saying "I was fearful that people would say "you only saved yourself, what did you do for my mum.....you did nothing and only saved yourself; that was my fear....." well, it was also the TRUTH wasn't it? Because that's EXACTLY what he DID do.
@barryhayes2582
@barryhayes2582 4 года назад
If that had happened in the U. S., even back in 1978, the motherfucker that owned that bus would have been in jail and the relatives of the deceased would own everything of his plus a percentage of any future earnings he/she may have...that is unless he/she had a really good attorney which, in that case, he/she, of course, would get off scot-free!!...That is, after all, the American way!!
@rebelusa6585
@rebelusa6585 3 года назад
Vietnam have a word saying weak, Kind hearted, honest people die early with tragic circumstances, evil...people live long and prosperity lives.
@ericaellens4491
@ericaellens4491 3 года назад
Just one question. Does asbestos mean something different in French then in america? This one was a hard one. People begging you to help them but knowing if you tried you both would drown so you just had to leave them. Then watching the survivors explain why they left them like I'm going to call them monsters for doing exactly what I would of done you dont have to answer for your actions at least not for me.
@BadDayHQ
@BadDayHQ 3 года назад
No I think its the same.
@ericaellens4491
@ericaellens4491 3 года назад
@@BadDayHQ that is what they ended up recalling for causing lung issues correct? What an odd name for a town. Anyway thanks for taking the time to upload these I love watching these things and spend way too much time watching them
@sarahstauffer4874
@sarahstauffer4874 3 года назад
Oh something tells me this was no accident, but clearly a set up. There's some sick people in this world.
@tamekkaknuth9612
@tamekkaknuth9612 Год назад
Are these true and not like a movie version?? Events are exactly what happened. No fake info added?
@ellsworthjohnson8647
@ellsworthjohnson8647 3 года назад
That makes no sense what people do for money he knew better than send that raggedy bus out there what a mess bless 🙏👏those people on that bus
@judynagle6742
@judynagle6742 4 года назад
"The threat of life?"
@jenniferryersejones9876
@jenniferryersejones9876 3 года назад
Yes, still thinking about that one, lol!
@annegrey3780
@annegrey3780 5 лет назад
I find it so surprising that out of 57 people none had any lifeguard training or were very strong swimmers. Perhaps, living near lakes my entire life in Ontario (where you literally can't go anywhere without hitting some of the largest in-land bodies of water on Earth despite being no-where near a coast) and being younger (I wasn't alive in the 70s) I just have a greatly altered idea of how common it is to not only learn to swim but to know water rescue. I completely understand that even a well trained person would have found it very dangerous, even fatal, to try and carry a person who was panicking through open water, so I don't blame anyone for not doing that (even highly trained people have died doing that cause when people start to drown they loose all reason and just try and climb on top of each other, so if you don't grab them low enough they will climb on, and eventually drown, you unless you have the presence of mind to swim down and drag them down long enough that they panic and let go) but in my experience in a group of 57 usually at least 20 would be strong swimmers with water rescue training who could at least toe those calm/tired enough to be toed (even in a group with disabilities) and at least 1-2 would be a current or former experienced lifeguard capable of at least coordinating the rescue. Less than half (even in a group with disabilities) would likely be weak or non-swimmers, meaning most could at least float themselves along to shore once calmed. But I suppose back then and in that area that training probably wasn't as common (its literally a school requirement where I live)
@MM-ig1iv
@MM-ig1iv Год назад
There wasn't much he could do.. there was going to be a disaster either which way you look at it.
@Sashazur
@Sashazur 3 года назад
I searched online but couldn’t find anything with more info about whether or if the owner/operator suffered consequences. I sure hope he did.
@BadDayHQ
@BadDayHQ 3 года назад
We are not sure either.
@Kenny-re8ko
@Kenny-re8ko 3 года назад
@@BadDayHQ all I can find is a few paragraphs in an Edmonton paper, they pulled the plates off Bolducs other 6 buses within days. Might require a trip to the library and microfilm...Montreal Gazette would have covered it pretty closely.
@watchgoose
@watchgoose 7 лет назад
DOWNSHIFT!!!!!
@lagresomadsl
@lagresomadsl 7 лет назад
And the engine overreving
@JasonMasters
@JasonMasters 7 лет назад
Better a busted engine than all those people dead.
@lagresomadsl
@lagresomadsl 7 лет назад
You wont be able to get in a lower gear when the speed and enginerevs are too high. The only option in this case would have been to steer it to a stop further up in the hill
@watchgoose
@watchgoose 7 лет назад
yes you will; have done it many times. twice when brakes were out. Race car drivers use it to get more power to pass. The engine can also be used to slow you down.
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 6 лет назад
wouldn't that make the engine explode? This isn't a race car engine, this is a diesel engine in a bus.
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