Divide & Conquer (V4.5): Faction Overview - Khazad-dûm 

I think DaC is the best submod/mod they made for any Total War game ever.

I agree with FlorensEmile, DaC is by far the greatest mod for a total war game. I would go so far as to say it is one of the greatest and most fleshed out LoTR games ever made. Thank you Galu and your team for the constant devotion and work on this mod. Your work is noted and appreciated! Absolutely love DaC

Essay in favour of dwarven charge: I would like to start with the notion that charging is not the same as general movement. In a football game you notice that usually shorter players are better at accelerating and manouvering. As Dwarfs are shorts, it is very possible that they accelerate rather quickly, making a charge quite effective. So in terms of speed/accelaration over a particualrly short distance (just closing the distance between two units), dwarfs shouldnt really fall short. Speaking of short, their high mass and low centre of gravity should actually help them in making a good hit. This can be seen in a rugby tackle, where a lower hit is always more effective at dislodging an opponent. For this reason a dwarven charge should really disrupt the lines of taller entities, especially because they have the mass to back it up (one could say that orcs are also short but in that case the higher mass should still do the trick). So, both in speed and in impact, the dwarves should manage quite nicely. For this reason I would say that a dedicated dwarven strike infantry could have a good charge stat (with perhaps a reduction in something else), as now they do not really serve the purpose for which they are designed with a charge of 4. Apologies in advance for poor spelling.

Damn, you’re just pumping out content during these covid times, eh. I respect the hustle my dude 🙏

*song of Durin plays in the background*

Whenever galu gives a rating I normally just add one to it lol.

Dwarves are not good archers ? Longbeards start grumbling again, THIS GOES TO THE BOOK LADDY

Unwearied then we’re Durin’s folk - song of Durin

This is what happens when you are blessed by Aule to practice hammering that Anvil before you even learn how to walk. Everyone in your family, including the women and children have beards and practicing the smithy make your arms nice and thicc

Heads up for next video: The Flame wrangler kills more of your own units than the enemy, but the ironic part is that it's completely in nature with the evil horde faction theme. It just doesn't matter to your evil overlord senses that half your army perished in flames due to the incompetence of your minions. It just makes you laugh in an evil manner.

Low charge?! We dwarves are natural sprinters!

You forgot to mention that on the bottom path, if you choose to help the elves with their siege, they also heal your troops to the max and get some money (3k I believe). Unless you removed it/or planing to remove for V5 :O. And as someone else mentioned here, Ori gets a random portrait all the time. I don't think I ever got his custom portrait in all my campaign plays of Khazad-Dum.

I am relatively sure that it is infact not the beornings that heal you but the elves if you go the Woodland route. The Beornings give you a unit of Beorning Warriors and maybe some money?

First time I played Khazad-Dûm, I went through the woods but there was a full army in Moria, had to siege it for 6 turns in order to take it. However I didn't send a diplomat for Gandalf, when the Balrog came I killed his entire army but then he killed mine. I was playing on VH/VH. Btw Khazad-dum is a cash maker, in my new campaign I am over turn 100 and making 15 000 ducats each turn.

Seven for the dwarf lords in their halls of stone...

5:28 If I want to see what failure looks like, I'll just look in a mirror.

Another comment, I feel that Gondor’s General’s Bodyguard should be renamed to “Captain’s Guard” simply because of Tolkien’s affinity of the term captain for the supreme commander of military forces within Middle Earth.

I am a simple dwarf, I see a dwarven video I give it a like

I've always wanted to see the outcome of AI vs AI battles you show us at the end. Could you just play it a little bit longer while that Celtic music plays in the background? I find it very amusing. Also, that song at the end.. I need the name. It works wonders to my ears and brain :D

a short overview like the race

Well done!

Make Balins guard relentless and give them extreme shield values, as a reference to Thorin Oakenshield and the fact that Balin dies with an arrow through the eye, something a shield would've remedied

As with all dwarves, use catapults for your ranged with their devastating grape shots. For field battles start with long range flaming shots to lure them in then as they come closer switch over to grape shots on their most powerfull units for one or two devastating volleys then as the melee starts you can shoot their archers with grape shots. For sieges they're even better, you don't have to build siege equipment and it's likely you can have insane grape shots through the broken down walls or into the city square. I aimed to have 4 of them in a full stack army with some cavalry and didn't really bother with archers except in early game before I could catapults. Your army is slower with siege equipment in tow, but it's worth it IMO.

Loved it.

Wow that's cool (and new), Oin spawns as a general and Ori becomes a diplomat . And they both are Balin's Retinue.

For the diplomat part, once you send one to Bree and get the pop saying you reached Bree, is there anything else you need to do for that?

i wish there was an ability to change the map from "upper land look" and "underground vision" like in heroes 5 , it would be awsome to focus on fighting on undergound alone

good video but could you perhaps cover the dwarfen catapult in the erebor overview? i think you forgot so far

Maybe you could make Balin's guard look like how the unit used to look after you've upgraded them (very heavy silver or mithril armour if I'm not mistaken).

Love this mod been big fan for awhile glad its finally standalone. The music and everything is amazing I was just wandering did you ever put the Ents back in I know it used to be scripted before but caused crashing majority of the time.

My favourite faction so far.

What does the opening phrase in your videos mean? It's some of Elvish I assume?

There is a problem with "around" route. When I took it my game always crashed when I've decided to help Anduin. Only when I let them die of DG's attack I was able to continue. Otherwise after battle I had either a crash or all the road leading to the next red arrow was "invalid terrain" and I was not able to go there. It happened on last version of DaC with all patches applied.

I made the mistake when playing of not standing directly on the last arrow before you attack Khazad-dum, so I took the city but none of the scripted events happened so I just sat there losing like 4000 gold a turn being ground down until I realised and sent Balin out to stand there for a turn, but by then I was so insanely in debt that I just restarted the campaign...

Hey galu, i got a few questions. 1. will balinsguard be free upkeep in v5? 2. Why can't i build a tier 5 market so i can't build my last tier of banks 3. Is it possible to give them 4 instead of 2 catapults? I mean, you lack cav and you're ammo isn't that great. Keep up the good work love the content

In Moria, in Khazad-Dûm!

The hardest part of playing this faction for me is the battle for Khazad-dum the custom map is really just a grind of mashing the front of your army vs the front of theirs, and usually the AI puts it on top of a ramp the lack of tactics on the map makes it hard since it's all just bottlenecks even shit infantry and do well holding a narrow gap so it's just a grind and hopefully the combat animations will favor your short men enough to get the kills needed to eventually grind down the defenders after that though it's a lot easier since you'll be defending against goblins mashing against your narrow defense like with the high elves though it does get to be quite a drag needing to manage every defensive battle for Khazad-dum and Imladris against the goblins :/

I know this would be a stretch, but maybe the Orocani dwarves could become more involved. Could make for some gameplay and in general i love dac and love the dorwinion area especially.

If feel as if the hammer guard should have a much higher charge because that is a lot of weight coming towards the enemy.

Do you have to continue the campaign as it is and not cheat on anything to have everything work because I cheated a little and didn't get durin's axe on Balin, do you get durin's seal on Oin, and do you get durin's crown after Balin's coranation or get as a different faction's get those two things?

What makes Khazad-dûm's army unique from the other two Dwarven factions? Ered Luin it seems has a heavy focus on pikes and crossbows, Erebor seems to have a special axe thrower unit at each tier, so what is Khazad-Dûm's focus or specialty? Is it heavily armored units?

I do have to ask, Arachir, what is tat greeting you do? I know it's Elven, but what does it mean? Please send me a translation as well.

Is there anywhere i can read on the script? Ive skiped a part i think now I have a crown with balin the balrog is coming but I have no gandalf...where can i retrace my steps?

How would I go about finding the mass stats for these units? My understanding is that the dwarven infantry tend to have higher mass making them resistant to cav charges.

What do you think of the new DCI last alliance mod trailer??

So, important question. Was the decision to bar Khazad-Dum from hiring a unit of Dale Cavalry Mercs intentional?

Galu, serious question. I was about to transition to khazad Dum for my Divide and conquer live stream right after northern dunedain is done. Would you suggest waiting until v5 because of the changes you're making? Or are they small changes? Was thinking of doing Dale instead

I don't get durin's axe after taking Khazad-dum how do I fix this?

Are the other dwarven factions able to build the mithril mines in Khazad Dum if they capture it? And do they get the mithril armor upgrade there, or is it only KD who gets that?

Still to this day, and years later, your team’s work on Total War has quality that has no equal. Even today’s Warhammer disappointment with their (in some, but few ways, better graphics), cannot compare with the work that you have put into this MOD. I was in my broke early 20s when I found your work. Now I will be contributing back if you have a gifting link. This kind of work needs to be awarded, especially in an age of lazy game designers who design poor quality games while simultaneously locking the ability to MOD- up from the user. Also, I sent you and email about AI and how it might be used in the near future to help you to steamroll your grunt work in MODS like these.

And Ori does get a random portrait instead of the custom portrait.

Hey Galu, my apologies because I've asked this before but could you do a modding tutorial on changing portraits, or a sub mod with different ones. This must be an annoying request, but I just love the idea of having easterling looking generals, like the old edgu portrait, he was very cool. Again sorry for asking again, great vids recently been enjoying the warhammer 2 gameplay. Love from canada, stay safe.

Wait, do Hithaeglir Beast Hunters really have a charge of 6?! The highest on the roster? Is that right?? The discarded archers have the most powerful charge?

Damn Arachir don't be callin my boys short they got shooters out here

Do dwarves even have cavalry in the books? I know that Iron Hill dwarves had cavalry with them when they came to confront the Mirkwood Elves in the 3rd Hobbit movie.

I was scared of why I just started off in khazad dum instead of next to erebor and dale until I realized it must be because of shattered alliance's that I was playing on🤣

I always wish the Dwarves had more access to cavalry options, but even so the Dwarves are the best, especially Khazad-dûm!

It's the Goblins of Moria. Also doesn't Khazad-Dum get any siege?

Need to make sieges for dwarves settlement's less troublesome and give siege engine's some thing to do!?

Awesome

How do you get your mini map to look like that?

@ArachîrGaludirithon Sorry to trouble you but I didnt know where else to ask this. Been playing Khazad. I got a quest to go send diplomatic relations to Rohan after taking Khazad, after a long journey through Mirkwood. However, I cant move my mouse down the map, any further than the bridges below Khazad dum, or anywhere north of Erui. Essentially it seems like I'm locked into the region. There's also a blinking red arrow just outside Khazad that was directing me to go there, but I already took the mountain so why is it still there? Is there a reason why I'm "restricted area" everywhere aside frm Khazad Dum?

RHUN when? :(

The mithil mine can't reachable though. Too bad for my merchant.

Most people cant fire a 6 ft longbow, a longbow by definition is a bow longer than an archer. It's like saying elves cant be great knights cause we have never seen a hulking elf knight that can not only take damage but also distribute it. We cant confirm if the longbows in Tolkien are even the English longbow variation since the only reference we get is them being mighty but that's about it, which could mean many things. I still think the beast hunters are good units especially for holding and focusing on trolls and peppering the enemy army. They do their jobs, no more no less.

Dwarves can’t charge? But they’re very dangerous over short distances!

Galu could the next campaign you play be gondor please

What’s the family tree? Or is it Teutonic?

A Horse Bow is small and can have a heavy draw weight and good range...........

I"ve never seem flame wranglers being used as I've never played moria and the AI faction always dies before BE 😉

Another thing to note being an excellent crossbowmen has almost nothing to do with heightand almost everything to do with strength or craftmanship, both things the dwarves excel at. the two important things are the powr the weilder can use to pull back the bow and the tool used to pull it back. On the other part Bows might require some height, but also need a really large amount of strength as well. pulling back a warbow's string is more an endeavor in strength then dexterity.

Unique bodyguards like Gil-Galads company, Balin's Guard and the Grey company should always have a max strength of 77. Please also buff the nazg-hai, 36 men is pitiful and they have no use besides the grenades to break morale (which is very powerful) but besides that they kinda suck with so few men.

Who is your favorite faction?

so no catapults at all for khaza dum?it does say dwarven catapults in the notable units when choosing faction

Yay my favourite faction

Give Balin's guard's bows since they are travelers.

in my campaign Balin never becomes king he stays High Lord for the entire campaign, i've followed the script trought its conclusion have i done something wrong or is the script not updating properly?

Maybe you can help me, i have critical error in my campaign. In 4.5 playing Gondor, error in the end of a turn, after rebels moving. I tried to backup for 2-3 turns, tried to take settlement from rebels where problem(but problem not in rebels) tried to save the game in the end of a turn. But nothing. P.S. sorry for my language, I’m not from English-speaking country

regarding the movement speed of pikes. Why do you not reduce their movement speed? Pikes marching in a spearwall formation should be slower than anyone else and not outrun other infantry and even catch up with slower cav

Souron has custom Glorfindle is kinda custom

Why is there a W on the dwarven shields? I'm curious to know. 15:30

Why did my zenith guards disappear when I recruit them from khazad dum east and west ?

how does the horde mechanic work with shattered alliance?

Helping Beorn does nit heal your units

My game crashes every time my reclaimers try to throw their hammers :(

It would be interesting if you could make one of the dwarves terrain debuffs coastal regions since dwarves were known to be afraid of the ocean

since they are called beast hunters wouldn't it be nice if they got a bonus versus trolls and wargs

Difficulty 2 hmm? :D i took Khazad dum at turn 15 with 150 casualties and got wrecked by a full stack and a half from moria in the next turn xD

24:55 Those projectiles were mangonel shots. And as far as I know, only the Goblins of Moria have access to them. Therefore I say that you are going to cover the Goblins of Moria next.

where are crosbows, and obsydian warriors or sth like that

I used to play dwarves in the lotr tabletop game. I had a dwarf ranger who took saurons last health point (my opponent failed all saves which helped) dwarves are good archers too long live sniper dwarf 😂

Khazad dum roster is .hit except the First Legion and maybe Sons of the fallen, they can't even deal with the Dunlending trash (i do not want to mention the Isengard cause their unit size and armor piercing units slaughter them every time.) Dwarves are extremely slow and without the charge bonus (khazad dum) they can't do anything. Khazad dum are good for defending and bad for attacking. Erebor and Ered Luin are much more offensive minded.

So what happens to Dwalin then

Where is the blacklock engineers

why are dwarwen campaigns so rich for scripts, alongside with high elves they are way more fun to play compared to others

*shows off epic dwarven faction* "mAe GoVaNen"

What's the united kingdom ?

I couldn't win the battle against moria going the long way around, you just can't fight 2 full banner armies in an uphill corridor with only 2 elite units.

Why are the Dwarves using Bows? Aren't they master craftskin that use crossbows? Bows just dont make sense even by Tolkien standards.

I just dont think Khazad-Dûm is a very good faction military wise. The early units are fine, but they lack a punch. The archers are useless againt anything else than trash goblins. All of their units are slow and flank very poorly, and thats a big problem for their two handed units, that are strong on paper, but it takes ages to actualy flank with them. The "guard" tier is hampered by low attack and mobility. The best units are the blacklock engineers from the hall of the seven, and the first legion pikes. Both are amazing units. Oh, and the only cavalry you have acess to is the merchant cavalry you get as mercenaries around Khazad-dûm, which are at best mediocre early game, but they will be one of your most useful units. The strategy is then to have catapults and force everyone to get to you. It's kinda effective, but sadly it gets very boring very soon. They are really one sided, and the heavy focus on infantry really lets them down, especially when the units are so goddamn slow. Sons of the fallen are great, but rare. Khazad-dûm reclaimers have good attack as well, but they only come from Moria.