*HERE ARE THE LINKS (scroll down)! 🛒FIND ALL THE PAINTING SUPPLIES HERE: www.amazon.com/shop/creativityrv Read Robin's Books and here: 🎁WORK FROM HOME WHILE YOU ROAM: The Ultimate Guide to Jobs that Can Be Done from Anywhere: amzn.to/2MF09LK ✅ Be A Nomad Change Your Life: amzn.to/2NQaogN 📌instagram.com/creativityrv/ 💖Watch/Share TedX Talk "Why I Choose to be a Nomad ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vs7WoriABF4.html 🎯***Here's ROBIN'S BLOG!***: www.creativityrv.com/ 💰GET 15% OFF ON A HARVEST HOSTS MEMBERSHIP: www.harvest-hosts.com/8FG9L9/2CTPL/ 🎨NEED INSPIRATION? Check out : www.wordsinspired.com/ *This post contains affiliate links. *CreativityRV is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. By using these links I will make a small percentage of your purchase, even if you buy something else--and it won't cost you anything..
Hello Robin. Would you share which sheen you used for your walls and for your cabinets? Matte, Eggshell,Satin, or Semi-Gloss? Thanks so much. Also how has the paint held up after a year of use and cleaning?
I swear, the first manufacturer that switches to white cabinets and no window valances will corner the market. Why is rv design stuck in the early 80's??
I know, right? I keep thinking it's because the people buying new ones have typically been retirees. When you're close to your early 80's, you LOVE the early 80's
@@SamEmilio2 Nope, not so, we're 69 and 74 and the first thing we've done is cover the dated floral velour with cream linen. Curtain velvet pelmets are going to be replaced by brightly coloured cotton bunting (for a fun beachy look), they're velcro'd on, so we can't just take the pelmet down, it looks odd with the velcro strip on the curtain rail. The velvet curtains will be replaced by bright cotton with blackout lining. The carpet will be replaced by either wood effect vinyl or cork flooring, and I'm seriously considering painting all the 'woodwork' in a pale colour to brighten and modernise the interior, only thing stopping me is the work involved I've seen other people describing...
I am a interior house painter The silicone you took out is what seals you counter against water. It beads up when painting I caulk over it with paintable latex caulk. Tape does peel when you wait til it's dry to remove it. The best primer for wood is Bin shellac base by zinsser
Well @@jessejames7074Mr. PRO, if you had read & understood what I wrote you would grasp the concept! Her paint beaded up because it's not caulk it's silicone. Paint won't adhere to silicone. To allow paint to adhere, use painter's caulk over the silicone, then paint. Get it?
@Girls With Guitars So there is something called "painters caulk" that will adhere to silicone, then I can paint over it?! If so, can you tell me what brand? I need it for inside my house. The builders used silicone on all the windows, and I need to paint the sills. Thank you
@@cassandraking7150 Dap brand painter's caulk. In the white tube green print. There is also Dap Alex which has a percentage of silicone in it and it is also paintable.
Use a wet finger to smooth it out after running your bead of caulk. I use a wet rag all the time when working & keep a pail of water at every job to rinse the rag. Good luck with your project 😁👍
Rv manufacturers need to start paying attention to paint trends. People don't want the dark stuff these days. It looks great and thanks for sharing the pitfalls.
I have always wondered how r.v. design “pros” come up with the “lovely” choices in window treatments,flooring etc. It has gotten somewhat better in last decade or so but honestly! I always wanted to live and travel in a 1 star hotel room decor. Oh boy. I have a vintage m.h. That had the same treatments still from factory when we bought it. I ripped those styling valances out on drive home. Nothing like shag carpeting in a kitchen,bath,bedroom 40 sg. foot space . Now imagine it 20 years old. Or don’t.
I came here to say the same thing. It's 2022 and RV companies are still using color schemes from the 80's and 90's, ie dark timbers and many shades of brown. Yuck. When will they make an RV with modern 'on-trend' colors?
My tips: No matter what you’re painting, you always take the tape off before the paint dries. That solves the stuck on tape problem. You can paint nonpaintable caulk if you first prime it with oil-based primer. Much faster than digging the caulk out and pulling off the paint.
Tape has a time frame that it can be removed without all the trouble. The manufacturer usually has it on the label of you can google it. The yellow tape by 3m is like 3 days before it is hard to remove. Any moisture in the air will shorten the time as well. Take it from a 30 vet as a painter
I was in the renovation business for 40 years and that was always a thorn in my flesh. Then one day I had an aha moment and I tried using some siliconized latex Caulk over the top of that it’s stuck just fine and it painted just fine as well. Try it it will save you lots of work
Lots of great info here; adding another tip from my house painters - he had a metal strip with a handle that was about 18 inches wide and 4 inches tall before the handle; he would hold that metal strip into the corner and parallel to the wall he wasn't painting; any overlaps from the brush went onto the metal strip. No need to tape, no need to paint very slowly on edges. Could buy/make those metal handheld paint guards in any size, and they would be easy to clean between or in the middle of paint jobs. Thanks for a great video and thanks all for the comments.
Regarding priming (I do this for a living), I'd be very careful using water-based primers on any wall covering. The reason is that the adhesive used to adhere the wallpaper to the substrate (typically 1/4" luan plywood) can be reactivated by water in the paint and then completely break the bond that holds the wallpaper to the substrate. Also, I'd recommend ALWAYS using a primer product and a separate finish product. You can get away with the products that are supposedly all in one, but the durability will never be as good. This is a great video showing successes and lessons learned.
Best primer in the world is shellac alcohol based bu zinser. But my god is it STROOOONNGG. wear a mask. Lol. A good bonding primer is whats called for for ttailer walls. Dont use standard pva primer. Itll work, sort of. But like the psot said, its far too wet and wont hold anywhere near as well.
Btw, alcohol base primer for cabinets is hard to work with. It has the cinsistency of water. So when brushing, go very slow and when rolling use a spong roller and go VERY slow.
Love the how too video. It contains a lot of necessary information with dos and don'ts for folks wanting to do a face lift inside their RV. It is interesting too that the cabinet work near and around the refrigerator is sealed air tight with silicone caulk. The reason for that is that the refrigerator burns propane... similar to what a home gas water heater does. So the cabinet work is actually part of the chimney to vent out the exhaust gas to the roof. Keep the factory caulk in place. If you remove it you must put it all back. Yes it's true paint don't stick to silicone caulk, but masking tape will stick to silicone caulk. Put masking tape over the silicone caulk. Ok to paint over the masking tape. To help hide the masking tape ok to use water based latex painter's caulk over the masking tape. Way less work than trying to dig out the factory caulk. Please leave that caulk where it was designed to be. If you do have to dig out any silicone caulk, get some new stuff and put it back where it was. Yes I am a professional painter. More importantly I'm an RV owner.
I painted the inside of my RV and I used Fusion Mineral Paint. It has no VOC's and a built in primer and top coat. There were a few areas I had to use 3 coats. Also I used BIN shellac primer in white to cover the silicone chalking before painting.
You can always purchase curtains or cover the furniture or add pillows for color. That is what I have done without altering any original colors in my Rialta. Although I am fortunate as they did do these light...just went so monochrome and really ugly upholstery!! But I have covered the bench seats with old quilts and have some pillows on there. I did take out the small upholstered chair near the stove because it was terribly uncomfortable and was not secure to the floor plus I have severe back problems and have to sleep in a recliner or as close to it as I can. So I have a recliner in thar area. Makes it crowded but I sleep good! Someday someone else may want to find an original seat if I ever sell this though.
10:00 mark: If you take the tape off when the paint is still wet, that won't happen. I've had this happen to me no matter what I'm painting. Just do your painting and then remove the tape shortly thereafter. Don't wait until the paint dries. This isn't just a problem in RVs. It happens no matter what your project. If you wait too long and the paint is dry, run a blade along the edge of the tape before you remove it. You almost have to do this when doing multiple layers of primer and/or paint unless you want to re-tape every time in-between coats. That would get costly. Just do however many coats of paint you want and then make your score along the edge each time (and especially after the last one) and remove the tape before the last coat dries.
I have bought and sold RVs for over 20 years as well as worked for a few large dealers here in FL. I think you did a great job and yes I think it looks good but just let people know that it DOES effect resale/trade in value when you paint a newer RV interior. One dealer even had a questionnaire that asked if the interior had been painted or altered in any way such as removal of dinettes etc. Those rigs that had been altered were very hard to resale and we had to usually run through the auction. We just could not sell them. Sure there is a butt for every seat, it just takes longer to sell those that were altered. The thing that I personally when I was buying to resale hated to see was the factory furniture removed and two huge Big Lots recliners put in the place along with a cheap Wal-Mart plastic 3 drawer bin. The manufacturers choose to use brown and tans as it is timeless and neutral. They know what sells. Again I think your paint job looks great but as far as resale it could lower the trade in resale value. Seeing how you change Rvs like many change socks lol. I will say from what I can see that your paint job does look as close to a factory job that I have ever seen. The cabinets look like they came white. Just watch out for the walls staring to bubble and peel. The chemical in some/most paint will cause the wall covering which is not drywall to come lose and bubble. It’s like painting over gift wrap. Also the reason they use those window box/valances is to reduce damage from the window coverings rubbing the wall while under way. Plus it just looks nice in the opinion of some haha. Obviously that is not your opinion!! Haha safe travels and watch out for that bubbling on the walls!
New RVers. Great to know this about resale. Got our 21ft trailer in 2019. Couldn't go anywhere last year. Mostly got it as a hurricane bug out. Enjoyed our short trips. It still has the new trailer smell.
@@VictoryAviation This was almost a year ago..not that my statement has changed...Painting the inside of a NEWER model RV does lower resale value but in this market anything with wheels is selling for more than book value..I'm at the auction, both RV and Auto from here in FL to as far north as SC..I'm even having to go west as the market is soo tight now but I still won't buy an altered painted rig..too hard to bring a good dollar!!! If they are bringing more then why do us dealers give you way less, and I mean WAY less as a way of discouraging you from even trading it in! We don't want a heavily molested rigged up chalk painted play house!! We can't sell them! It took 6 months to get rid of the last rig that had been painted..No thanks! You can have all the painted ones you like! I'll even alert you to when I have a customer that wants to trade and YOU can flip it since you think they are such a gold mine!!! Cheers!
We painted the walls in the first RV we renovated and hated it. We had tons of experience painting walls in houses; we did a good job and it looked great on film, but in person, it was flaws central. For our second rig reno, we used textured wallpaper throughout, and not only was it WAY less messy of a project but it came out A-MA-ZING and very classy. Highly recommend. Also, because you didn't use the oil-based primer on all cabinets, if you find that skin oils cause the paint to peel away on frequently used cabinets-especially during the summer heat-sponge roller a top coat of polycrylic and you'll be golden. ;)
Same I was going to paint and then I was thinking peel and stick tiles behind the stove love to see a video on this what type of wallpaper did you use did you use peel and stick or did you need glue
Great, great video… I laughed my ass off. I really enjoyed watching and great tips for painting …. For anyone getting ready to paint there RV ?? You gotta watch this video… perfect, perfect video…..
Great video. I would add one caution, and I realize most people don't keep RV's for a long time and fewer seem to want to deal with older RV's. But having a late 90's Tiffin I can tell you that the wall covering can become unstuck from the substrate. I can't use Command Hooks, they just pull the wall covering loose. And I wouldn't paint over it for the same reason. I have found that gentle use of a heat gun will let you remove the stupid, glued on wall covering in my RV, with little trouble. Thanks Robin!
@5:23 makes me miss my cats. i used to love when they tried to swat at me while i was working on something. at the time it could seem like nothing or even annoying...but now that they're gone, my life sucks. love and care for your pets no matter what you think... they will be gone one day, and you will be sad if you're a good person at all.
We bought a 42' 5th wheel that had a fire inside. Most of the damage was smoke so we ended up painting all thr walls. Here are some tips. 1. Almost everything is just screwed to the walls. Don't tape around windows just unscrew and remove the interior trim. Paint and then reinstall. Same with lights and even some cabinets. 2. Instead of worrying about ceiling transition paint. Just install trim. Use construction adhesive and a finish nail gun. You can pre-paint it and then touch it up once installed. It really hides the transition gaps better and adds a decorative element. 3. They have lots of colored caulking that can be used instead of paint. If its a transition between a counter then the counter color looks good also. 4. Don't use tape. Spend the extra time working slowly so you do not need to tape. It will save you time overall. 5. Remember in painting it is the detail work that takes the most time.
Hi Robin. Thanks for posting your experience with painting your RV. I recently painted mine. After doing a lot of research, I decided to use PPG Gripper primer and it worked very well. Just one coat covered the walls and ceilings. 2 coats for the cabinets. I did know to clean the walls before starting, but I didn't clean the first few wood parts after sanding. I just wiped them down and starting painting. once the paint dried, it pulled off completely. After that, I sanded, cleaned, primed, then painted and the results were great.
Ahh, I've got to look into the difference (or the ingredient list on both) between 'Krud Cutter' and T.S.P.? I LUV any KILZ products! This is all awesome information! And you did a "Fantabulous" job!! Even though it took you all that trouble, trial and tribulations, the pride you must have in the end result must be an absolutely amazing feeling! It looks "Fantabulous"!
I have not liked the color schemes on RVs ever since they started putting the weird graffiti looking designs on the outside and the poop splatter look on the inside walls. Your new paint job looks fantastic and really improves the look of your home. Do you plan on redoing the outside also? Almost anything would look better than those slash marks on the outside of current RVs. I really miss my old travel trailer that had wood grain walls on the inside and a beautiful simple paint job on the outside. I don't know why they don't put simple outdoor country scenes like mountains or lakes or trees on RVs instead of that ugly vandalized look. Again I love your paint job!
Great advice! Having applied many gallons of paint I have to agree with you. I have only painted house's but after all you went through I am pretty sure I don't want to paint a RV.
I used to use the blue painter's tape and put up with the bleeding. Then I discovered the green tape which is so much better. The secret to painter's tape is to remove it as soon as you finish painting while the paint is still wet. Then it comes off clean.
I feel your PAIN!!! I am currently painting the main cabin of a small 2004 (19ft) RV, and I think the bathroom will just be left as is! LOL. Four coats if you are not doing wall coverings like removable wall paper, is what we are looking at. Scrunching into tiny spaces, and horrid corners - I've done myself some injuries. It's a young persons game, LOL. I've been lucky that I decided not to use tape other than a couple of small weird spaces - saved time and aggravation that I've learned from painting inside a house. YES - RV walls are DIFFERENT, I just didn't know how different until this project. I never planned to paint the cabinets - THANK GOODNESS. It's been a much bigger challenge than I ever expected - but it's coming along nicely.
I painted mine too. That “wallpaper was so wrinkled and loose that I pulled it down, leveled the edge, primed and painted. Then I put up some of those sticky tiles. They were okay the first year but when I opened up after winter storage they’d all come off the wall. So I stenciled a pattern on as the “backsplash.” I love it.
The upper window boxes may look dated, but they keep outside light from shining up onto the ceiling (annoying in some city locations -- think Las Vegas), make cleaning the cobwebs above the curtains easier, and make the layout neater and more uniform (covering a multitude of sins). And I prefer to mess up my own paint jobs, rather than deal with the same mistakes from a hired crew. It's a cruddy job? No excuses, no busy signals, no strangers tramping through my sock drawer. Thanks, Robin and Doug, for doing the heavy lifting for the rest of us before our own frustrating projects. Good job, there!
****Welp....**** no way I'm painting my rig. Just the insight I needed to decide. Yours looks great but I worry whether the paper coating will end up peeling from the wall. You are troopers!!
So happy to find you!!! My husband and I just bought our first RV and want to make it our own. My first thought was to paint it but we didn’t know if we could or what that looks like. You answered so many questions!!! This video was so helpful, thank you so much!
Had to put your video on pause to take in the amazing work you guys did. I must say had you hired someone else you would not be able to look back at your hard work with the admiration of having accomplished such an amazing transformation yourselves. DYI's can be so satisfying.
From my expérience, I always buy the best quality tape, remove it even when the paint is still wet. When the tape remove what is underneat, warm the tape with an hairdryer!
When I paint, I hate using the painter’s tape because it takes so much time (and it must be removed immediately after painting, you can’t let it stay on or it will take off the dry paint with removing). As a 40+ DIYer, I usually use this large scraping tool that I bought 35+ years ago when I put up wallpaper. It is long (approx. 24”) stainless steel rounded edge with a black handle. Since it is stainless, paint comes off easily after each use. I have a smaller version that I bought a few years ago (for a different type of project) and all I could find was all plastic. Still did what I needed it to do - keep the paint off the surface I didn’t want painted. Your all’s paint job looks AMAZING! I’m not sure a professional would have done that well a job.
I think your final colors look fantastic. I can only imagine how long this project took. My rv is constructed very differently but one approach that’s totally helped me on all my mods has been to test all the new materials I plan on using on scraps of wall, cabinet, etc from the rig before I go ahead with the project. This might have helped you find a caulk that might have adhered to the old caulk that then you could have painted over, instead of removing the old. But it might not have worked - 🤔
I really appreciate this real information as opposed to people making it seem like an afternoon job. A bad paint job just looks cheap. It is worth the work to have a professional-looking outcome like you guys do. Thank you.
You should use paintable caulk to close up seams & all the edges. I’ve painted a lot of interiors, you can’t use a foam flat roller on rough or textured surfaces. The cabinet paint you used is excellent- I painted my daughter’s cabinets with that- no primer needed, just a thorough cleaning (including degreaser) and light sanding of the surface to add some texture for paint to adhere to. The tape will tend to stick if the paint layer is thick or if the tape is left there for some time to dry along with the paint. Tape should be carefully removed as soon as you’re done painting.
One tip I might add that has worked for me in my hybrid is using DAP Extreme Stretch Caulk in between gaps. It stays flexible even after drying and seals bigger gaps that are all too familiar in rvs (: thanks for the great video!
I like how you honor the cow 🐮. Cows are the kindest animals, they do so much for us. If you reflect on all we get from them, it will surely melt your heart💔. Please people, understand that cows need to be treated well in their sad crowded pens. Please remember to have a place in your heart for them and see that the industries treat them humanely. Remember, cows have always been here and nurtured us as we grew. Please let's see to it that they have their pastures and are cared for as is natural to thier habitat. Really, it's the least we can do.🐂
Whew. I feel great about my purchases today. I’m prepping my RV for an interior paint job and so far, I am on point!! Yay!! Thank you for this video!!! I am so glad you popped up in my suggestions today!! ❤️❤️
I used Zinsser oil based primer in my camper to make sure that the paint would properly bond to any painted surface, especially because of the temperature fluctuations. Then just regular latex paint in eggshell from Home Depot. The one mistake I made was not leaving enough drying time in between coats on the first 3 half walls I painted. They took months to fully cure and dry. If you scratched it will your nail during the months it hadn’t fully hardened then it would scrap off. It wasn’t really and issue for me though since I had a bunch of other work to do on the trailer. The other painted areas in my camper turned out great. Proper cleaning (I just used some Dawn dish soap and water) and then lightly sanding it are critical. 4 years later and everything is holding up great!
Thank you. There are so many videos of people saying they are pleased with results of certain products but some haven't even been through all 4 seasons yet. I'm happy you're has held up so well over years.
The only reason that paint will NOT dry is because the paint was frozen at some point, likely before you ever purchased the paint. The retailer may have bought bad paint unknowingly from a failed competitor.
Robin, I'm a big fan, have your books, etc; and I just want/need to tell you that you are the Godess of nomad living!! You are an authority on all things "nomad", like Bob Wells, only much better looking! The amount of work, research that you obviously put into your work is breathtaking in scope and depth! I wager you currently work harder, longer now than you ever did in corporate Colorado! (HP for me, soul destroying!) And I would further wager that you are enjoying life a whole lot more!! Thank you for all your hard work and for sharing it!! Cheers!!
I know you two must have worked yourselves crazy, but, it looks beautiful. I think it is just perfect like you said, light, clean and so bright. Thanks for sharing all the information.
This incredible project (which was broken down to multiple projects) echoes what I say every time I have a good idea: Nothing is ever easy! It looks great! I know you're enjoying it!
Thank you!! Started painting my 2013 RV. Thought I was doing all the right steps, including the cleaning and sanding and removing the caulk. Then the tape challenges began! Very good tip to not use the tape (i stopped using it pretty quickly except in areas like cabinet meets floor). Good tip on the driving around to see how the corners and joins clear up. Was trying to figure out how to address that.
That sounds exhausting. It probably wasn’t all that comfortable living in it at the time. You have a lot of patience. I’m glad Doug was there to help. The tape must be removed pretty soon after painting. We stained the cabinets in our home kitchen and that was a nightmare due to improper preparation and had to be redone. I had a serious meltdown because I was so exhausted so I can imagine how you felt. Thank God after all that work it looks amazing. Another commenter mentioned resale value. In your case, I would pay more because the work is already done. Everyone complains about the brown. Congratulations on surviving that trial.
I am so glad you made this video and I found it before i get started! Your remodel turned out absolutely beautiful, it doesn’t even look like an RV its a plush modern home. Good work and thanks for the tips!
I want to paint but my husband who is a contractor - says - no you really don’t- maybe after watching this I will rethink what I want to do! Thanks for the information. Your looks nice!
Only thing I would add is to pull tape up while paint is STILL WET. When wet it does not screw up edges as badly. But a paint edger straight flat piece of metal on a handle is so much easier. Big fan of Kiltz product. One of my favs is Kiltz restoration paint will even cover smoke damage. TSP is what I use on walls to clean the. Kiltz it....the joys of 30 years of painting rentals....ugh.
Thanks for your amazing videos. We just bought our first RV, a Grand Design as well. I’m excited to take our first adventure and learn from all you’ve done!
Perfectly timed - I am just painting my older RV to freshen it up and brighten it up - this was super helpful because I haven't started taping yer. Phew! I will go and explore your supply list. Thank you for all of these details!
I found when painting the interior of my motor home that after I scraped and cleaned and sanded and cleaned again before I put my paint on the wall I got out a cheap flexible metal compound knife and used it for an edger. And kept it cleaned off. It worked like a dream
Great tips, Robin, Thank you! Especially where you differentiated between a house and an RV. Lots to learn! I love the result - so bright and clean! Have a great day! Hugs and kissies for Big Boy.
Thanks for the info! My plan is to buy an older RV and renovate it. I've heard before that painting it was a huge pain, but worth it. And that there are a hundred shades of white 😄 (I paint on canvas so I know the frustration) I hear different things from others that have painted and this was really useful! I'll be sure to check out everything before I begin...
My husband lost his job after 15 years ( farm was sold to someone who’s son will run it) and our house was included so now we have to move. My brother in law is letting us stay in his camper and park it by his pond. It needs lots of work! Glad I found your channel!
Thank you for sharing this information! I have been wanting to paint my camper for a long time. With your tips maybe I can do it without making a huge mess. ❤️
So me and my family are full time RVers! And we just went through this with our mansion on wheels!! This lady hit all the same obstacles I ran into! I thought I was going to set the camper on fire and start over when I started dealing with the non paintable silicone!!!! I ended up taking a heat gun and a wire brush to remove most of it and went back over it with a white caulking.. enjoy the videos keep ‘em coming!
Great video. I learned a lot. I liked that you painted the upper cabinetry white, and kept some (all?) of the original brown for the lower. I think it looks high end and more custom. Excellent job. ~Kay B.
I’m so glad you posted this one about painting we bought the paint and everything we just might get a professional to do it sounds like a lot of work I have a hone that is farmhouse style and it is bright and cheerful our 2016 is like a Dungeon so dark it look beautiful when we bought it thanks for the tips Robin
3:11 Krud Kutter is good stuff. When i painted my kitchen cabinets in a house i used to own, it was double strength TSP, then light sanding, then steel wool, then tack cloth, then paint, then steel wook, then tack cloth, then paint, then steel wool, then matte poly. They looked brand new. Prep (and beer and a radio) is EVERYTHING
You are so awesome I love watching your RU-vid ‘s… And I just discovered you for days ago that that were wanting to paint our travel trailer… So thank you so much have a blessed day
Oh me tooo!! I am repainting again after a reno! So many similiar experiences as you! Makes me feel better it's a differnt beast for sure. We had a small window seal leak...!! GAH thank you for you tips
I once bought non paintable caulk and did a lot of repairs in a house… I had to go back with paintable caulk and put a thin layer over the top of it. Painted and worked great.
Im doing this in the spring, and Im so glad I watched this!! It was helpful, clear, the pictures of before, during, and afters throughout were SO helpful.... thank you!
I found similar issues when I began renovating my '92 Class C. I got so tired of trying to remove the ugly, wrinkled wallpaper that I quit. I like your idea of cutting out the puckers and filling/sanding them. I may try that. I'm going to be buying a newer rig to hit the road next spring anyway, so I don't want to put much more $$ into this one. Great info as usual. Thanks, Robin!
