Do Vehicle Values Continually Increase With Age? | The Moto Guzzi California 

Giancarlo needs to have a coffee, a cake and a calm down 😂😂

Passion all day long if you don’t look back at it after a ride with a smile on your face ,as you walk away. You have the wrong bike 😂

The world has turned on its head! A Brit is teaching an Italian about passion! 😅 Great episode, can't agree with the passion and the looks point. That's how we choose the bikes

Yes yes the PASSION!! Your getting the idea Freddie. It’s all about the passion. That’s what drives us all.

Anyone who thinks Freddie is not a proper biker, tell me about your last trip to Spain/France/ Morocco/India etc etc. Freddie doesnt just talk the talk he definitely walks the walk.

Exactly Freddie! it’s the feeling that bike gives to its owner, not what anyone else thinks would be more practical from their own personal point of view.

Talking of the possible future value of bikes. I think the better way of looking at it is, if you can buy a bike that you love second hand for a reasonable price that you can afford, then just keep it well maintained and enjoy it. Basically most bikes will reach a value which bottoms out and won’t drop below. Therefore you avoid the biggest cost of vehicle ownership which is depreciation. That way the cost of maintenance etc is your only annual cost. If you strike lucky and your bike eventually goes up in value again then that’s great but if you love it you’re not going to sell so it’s immaterial. Just enjoy your bike and ride it, happy in the knowledge your pleasure/ passion is not draining your bank each month 😊

A passion for motorbikes, not mechanical ability or common sense makes me ride in all weathers and long miles, it makes me choose the bike not the car, put up with all sorts of discomfort because i'm on 'my' bike and we always make it to our destination, we feel things we couldn't in a car and travel roads just for the sake of being together, regardlaess of the danger, laws and whether it was made to do what we want it to. I love your passion Freddie, never lose it.

Wonderful to hear nice things said about the California. We love our '03 (with hydraulic valves). Owned her for 3 years, twice back to the factory in Mandello. Handles like a boss. Yes, speedo failed, replaced the internals with those of a ducati sp2 speedo.. Not a perfect bike by any means, but we'll never sell her 😊

What a great show, you are starting to bring a little humour to the podcast. This is great. I have been smiling most of the time whilst watching. Keep it up ❤

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as is value.

Massive difference between a proper DBD Goldstar and a Rocket Goldstar (like the model you highlighted)!!

Perfect response to Giancarlo Freddie. I wonder if he is a biker at all. To call the V7 old garbage or the EVO motor needing a lot of maintenance is just plain ignorant. Both of those brands are iconic, deservedly so. Just as Triumph, BSA, Norton, Royal Enfield, BMW, Honda, et al are as well. Passion is the key.

I've done 38000 miles on my 2020 V7… including a trip back to the factory in 2022 for the delayed centenary celebrations. She's great on the motorway, A & B roads and around town. Perfectly reliable and great fun.

Great vlog. Good luck to Claire!

Freddie, you are right about values dropping., or not increasing but it depends on the vehicle. an original Kawasaki Z900 has values of between £20 and £30K. Similarly, original sandcast engine Honda CB750s have values well above £10K. However, I have a 1978 Honda CB750 F2 SOHC. It is probably only worth about £2-£3K max. It is not 100% original as exhausts are hard to find. However, whenever I take it for a ride, I am almost always approached by somebody who used to have one or used to lust after one, or who just remembers seeing them on the road. It is a great conversation starter, but this never translates into additional value. Hey ho, perhaps meeting new people has better value at the end of the day?

For any individual that gets depressed like me this channel is a gods gift full and I mean full of positive comments and remarks keep trucking and keep us all sane please !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agree entirely with the Moto Guzzi California. Stopped at the level crossing in Manningtree last week and got talking to a chap with a 1998 California on a T plate. No issues and a beautiful bike. Freddie go to America. My friend loaned me his Yamaha Virago for a while and twice it got kicked onto its side in car parks over a 3 month period in Texas. This was 30 years ago, but the Harley thing must still go on.

The BSA Rocket Gold Star 650 you featured is a twin and is not in the same league of value and collectability as the true Gold Star single-cylinder models . Have a look at a DBD34 Gold Star 500cc single, you'll find that they are a lot more pricey. This is the model which the new Gold Star 650 is styled on. The original BSA never made a 650 single.

You bought a fashion device. LOL. That was beautiful. Great content.

I love riding all of my bikes. I have had my Sportster for 25 years. I have had my Triumph Tr-6 with a hard tail and magneto for 40 years. I have had my URAL side car outfit for almost 10 years. All of my bikes are out side all the time.

Absolutely...Passion 100% translates to heart over head ❤

As a Moto Guzzi California Audace 1400 owner I must admit the reason why they keep their values is because they are amazing. They ride break and handle more like a big Japanese muscle bike rather than a cruiser ( gsx1400 or xjr 1300 or CB1300 ) service is every 6000 miles oil filter plus valves but hey it's a Guzzi so they are sticking out like on a BMW boxer. The big block Guzzi engine is a gem. You can ride the torque from 2500-4000rpm or you can keep spinning it and get in to the power band from 4500-7000rpm this 90 degree 1380cc engine just rips(and this is coming from someone who used to track a GSXR1000 and sold it to buy my Audace! Change the dif oil every time you change the back tyre and that is it. Massive plus they have all the modern electric aids so abs 3 stage traction control ( that can be switched off for burnouts) and cruise control from standard plus 3 riding modes pioggia (rain cuts power by 1/3 makes very soft throttle response I use it as eco mode on motorways) turismo( every day riding full power but still soft throttle response) and veloce ( sport aggressive throttle response most fun ) 21 litre tank can last from 130miles when You ride it like You stole it up to 250 miles plus in pioggia with cruise control set at 65mph. And the best thing is they there are only a handful of them on the road! So if You ever gonna be in the south east of England and You would like to sample the biking biggest secret give ma a shout @audac_rider and we can make it happen

nice one mate, thanks! I have seen a Guzzi California today at my Garage in London what a stunning machine

Passion is key. I went from a V7 III to a T100. Both passion. The finish on the 2016 T100 felt rich.

Without passion life would be just grey porridge,for me if you can't look back at your bike and it makes you smile there's no point owning it my Bonneville does this and my Guzzi V50 did .I bought a Honda once and I can't remember a single ride I had on it but the Bonnie and the V50 every ride was memorable

Thanks Freddie I enjoyed your content 😊

The great thing about 40+ year old classic bikes and cars is of course, no road tax, no MOT requirement and they are all ULEZ and congestion charge exempt. Happy days 🙂

Freddie I like good reliable bikes , but i agree passion is key to loving your ride, my problem is i have passion for boring bikes lol love them all, great pod cast 👍

Good luck Claire 👍 enjoy every moment.

You simply cannot beat a Guzzi for style, charisma and distance.

Oh, I remember my riding test in 2022. I was so incredibly nervous. I made an error twice on the slow course (max 6kmh) and I thought I was done for. But the instructor was a nice guy and saw that I was nervous and let me continue the test. And when it was all said and done... I passed. Oh, how happy I was. Fulfilling my dream from 20 years to ride a big fat motorcycle. Now, I have 5 bikes and gone through 9 bikes in total. This is the perfect hobby!

I shouted 'passion' at the same time that you said it, and you are right. Life needs colour and passion.

Spot on with your retort about including passion. For most of us in North America or Europe, without passion, most motorcycles would fail the sensibility test. In urban settings, scooters would probably trump everything else. And outside the cities safety and practicality would lean to small cars. But throw in passion and the spectrum of bikes makes sense.

Freddy, Guzzi made a special edition of the California called "flying fortress". All black matte with carbon details. You need to look it up. It's crazy looking

I agree. I love my Guzzi v85. But the dealer network stinks. I even have a dealer very close to me and I hate going there. So I learned to do all the maintenance myself. Its so easy to do so why not. Parts are a little hard to get sometimes but you just have to plan ahead.

Passion 100% agree well said young man !!!!!!

Had a triple heart bypass 10 years ago and had a European trip planned 3 months after my operation so down sized from a BMW R1200GS to an F700GS and went on the trip covering over 2000 miles Like you I have had chest pains and numerous tests over the years only to be told there is nothing wrong I then bought a Himalayan which I rode for 4 years and only sold it a few weeks ago preparing for the new model to arrive

In 1968 I wore my crash helmet (skid-lid) for my motorcycle test. I rode twice around the block and passed...perhaps you should do an article about the differences in the test over the years ?......

Absolutely brilliant in a chaotic sort of way. Sums up India, presumably

Worth also factoring in the impact of inflation, have owned the same classic car since 1998 and has gone up in value probably by a factor of 4 times or more. Part of that is spares costs due to availability etc, but the bigger factor is purely driven by inflation over that period.

I Bought a Moto Guzzi SP1000 with 68000 miles on the clock, I was warned by the seller that it had, had a hard life, having had a side car attached for most of it's life, with that in mind, I thought that I'd be constantly working on it, but apart from changing the oil/ filters etc, I never had to touch it, it never missed a beat, the most capable and reliable bike I have owned, I should never have sold it.

Absolutely agree passion every time...😊

Valve clearances on a dohc with bucket followers. I saw a RU-vid video where the clearances were measured when cold and then when hot. The clearances had loosend

Ohh Freddie, a great podcast. Passion, is all encompassing. It does include looks & desire, but it also includes maintenance, care, respect, enthusiasm & enjoyment….etc… Everything, all around us. I’m afraid of one thing…. The phoenix Bonneville will eventually die another horrible death.

I agree with you mate; passion is the most important factor for me as well. Motorcycling for me is all about enjoyment, not commuting; a bike is a toy, not just a utility. So I kind of do understand people taking a more rational approach to purchasing a motorcycle. I do that with cars: 100% rational. But bikes? Hell no.

Like many others here, I'm in complete agreement about passion Freddie! If it weren't about the feeling riding gives me, common sense tells me I ought to just buy a sensible car instead. I ride my motorcycle daily, don't even own a car anymore. Bought the Harley Davidson Lowrdier ST, and was that the sensible purchase? No definitely not 😂! But the joy I feel every day when I ride it makes it the right vehicle for me. I'm actually looking at buying a second bike as a backup/bad weather bike, and I thought about the more "sensible" bikes to purchase. But my heart wants the Triumph Scrambler 900 over any of the more sensible bikes, so that's the one I'll get

Can't believe I got bike of the week, thanks Freddie!

Freddie, I hope Goa was all & more than expected. If you are biking down to see your parents on the bank holiday Friday, I am more than happy to ride a leg with you. Fyi Ilminster roundabout on the A303 now boasts a McDonald's as well as a Costa coffee! Unfortunately, and ironically, my 2018 bmw r1200rs is in the stealership for valve checks and major service....price £400 all in. So my ride will be a little unsung harley davidson from 1996...a original sportser s ( model designation xl1200s)...of which you are more than welcome to ride. Thanks for sharing these " thoughts" via your podcast...a real difference in the biking world.

Goa looks lovely.

Good luck to Claire!

The thing about value is that currency is always inflating so sellers (not flippers) are usually making some sort of profit on older vehicles even if they are selling it back at "market value" because they probably paid a lot less back when they bought it. The guy selling the vintage bonny probably got it for less than $2.5k if he's had it for more than 6-10 years and the guy before him is still making a profit too, and this is assuming no restorations were done either.

Great video man. Ratty10

Hi Freddie, I've just jealousy watched you melting in Goa and wondered if you'd ever heard about a biker from here in Belfast who attempted a trip from Belfast to Australia on a Moto Guzzi Le Mans and ended up doing 39,000 miles through 33 countries without getting anywhere near Australia. His name's Chris Donaldson and he did the trip pre-internet back in the early 80's which is fascinating

I have passion for my Honda cmx500 because it takes me places without fuss 😊

Last year i bought a brand new BSA GoldStar was that with my sensible face, hardly because there were so many unanswered questions with this new bike, no it was with my passion face. Incidentally have i regretted this purchase after owning it for one year, not for one minute.

On the classic vehicle front, are people going to be able to run them in 5-10 years time with the way fuel powered vehicles are being demonised? Also will you be able to get the correct fuel? Those old Land Rovers won’t run on E10 fuel.

Regarding Giancarlo - yup, passion is for yer best girl, hard logic for bikes and, oh hell, can't do it, yer right, Mr Fred....

Oh, also I have a Moto Guzzi 71 Ambassador, 81 California and a 79 Convert. The above tool kit is all you need!!!😂 AND I live in Cornwall.

Giancarlo calm down ! Motorcycles are never the sensible option, that's called a car 😊 I have a Moto Guzzi v85tt & a 1979 T140 before buying either I was completely aware of all the potential foibles & have enjoyed learning to maintain (wherever possible) repair them, they have soul !!! That's why I bought them....Freddie I have been watching the re-birth of your Triumph via The Wurks, frankly with a level of astonishment about the level of abuse you have subjected it to, when you get it back you Must ! learn to do the basics & keep it clean & safe as Del Boy would say you know it makes sense....

Its all down to numbers and how many were made re older bikes and cars. The Land Rover as an example millions were made take an Aston D.B.5 James bond version as another example is worth a fortune over a million in good condition as a friend of mine has found out !!! If you start to try and buy these old machines to make money you will either make a fortune or lose a fortune. I have a 2 door Range Rover owned for over 30 years and its a 2 owner you try telling me what its worth ????????????? Great up load as always well done yet again young man for putting the grey matter into gear so to speak !! ITS NOT ALL ABOUT MONEY THOUGH IS IT ??

Check out the new 801 Svartpilen, a worthy successor to the 701?

In 1969 I bought a 1954 BSA D1 Bantam ( with leg shields) For £2 .10/- run like a watch. Looking on line now seen them for between £2500 and £4000. Keep even a mundane bike or anything long enough it eventually commands silly money

I bought my Speed Twin 1200 over all the bikes i test rode, why? cos for me it looked good in my eyes compared to the other bikes i tried, it sounded great with stock exhausts, i didn't have to add anything to it as it had all i wanted (that only add ons being heated grips and a tail tidy which the previous owner had already done) yes, i fitted better on the Z900 RS, T120 and Triumph Scrambler 1200 and the R Nine T had better tech and shaft drive but the Speed Twin had classic looks and character and gave me the biggest smile

I prefer a motorcycle that I like and wait time to get one of getting one just for the practically and easy to get but nop that's one that make you smile 😊

Passion is great put passion can be had with practicality and dependability. What you describe is marrying an exotic dancer because ‘she loves you’. I also have a bike that makes my heart sing, it’s any bike that will just start and get me where I’m going. Then again, I like to actually maintain my bike. If any spannering is too much for you…I’d maintain a good relationship with a mechanic of good repute.

The person who is fixing freddie,s bike must be trilled to hear him say. I still wont look after my bike. Thats a nice way to repay someone who is fixing his bike for free.

So there's a chance of my old iron-barrelled Enfield will become a classic then? I finally got annoyed with the top-end noise. One hour later the top end was off measured and valve guides ordered ( you really should look into Hitchcock motorcycles when you get back,,great service ! ) valve guide clearance 3, 4 thou ...mine 10 thou probably take me 3 odd hours including dealing with the missus, as I use her oven to heat the head ....3 hours later job done, cost 30 quid you can keep your "high tech"

Good chat 👍👍

As a multiple Guzzi owner for many years quite used to the stupid comments by people or press who have never owned one. Like going back to the 90's, he should apply for job a MCN.

The Suzuki man may be happy with his beige motorcycle. It may well get him where he’s going but will he have any fun? I’ll take my chances with Bonneville any day of the week.

Are you really in Goa Freddie? Looks like a white painted apartment one could find in the UK sans the palms.

Tom cruise has one not sure if they still make them

Interesting, that my T100 is about the same now as I paid for it 7 years ago, with inflation it's obviously decreased in value. It's done a lot better than my wifes same year Berlingo, which has is only worth half what we paid for it 8 years ago.

Motorbikes are ‘passion’

Freddie I was laughing my head of when you were on about valve clearances , poor Joe has done a lot on your bike and will you be cleaning it when you get back ha ha

There will be a good market for iconic classic motorcycles surviving in small numbers for the foreseeable future but otherwise I agree with your generational thesis. For example, people who actually rode bikes in the 1960’s are well into their 70’s now. Yes there are younger people interested in bikes of that era but their numbers won’t replace that earlier generation - the demand will fall for many “classic” bikes that were in many cases pretty ordinary bikes in their day and so the price will reduce, eventually 🇬🇧

7:01 perhaps you should go back another ten years to 1967 T120 and see what the prices are like there!

It stops the vehicle is based on what it is not how old it is.

Freddie, as regards the values of old vehicles, the same thing applies as to everything else. As the saying goes, the rich take their junk to the auction, the poor take their junk to the garbage dump. Don't hold your breath waiting for your entry-level whatever to increase in value because it never will.

I really want a ZZR1400 and common sense cannot factor into ever buying that motorcycle, I will have this motorcycle as my second next year!

Not sure you are aware that Triumph had a podium in the world motocross 250cc championship in their first outing and it should be celebrated.

The supply of vintage motorcycles is limited so the more people who want them will increase the demand which will raise prices.

Freddie, you have to factor in the fact that any vehicle rarity and desirability of the original car or bike determines the value. Mass production will never produce high value. You shouldn’t buy any vehicle as an investment. If you get lucky, brilliant, but as everyone says “Remember the value of any investment can go down as well as up!!”. Drive it and enjoy it

If what's in your garage doesn't make your heart beat a little faster, it's most definitely the wrong bike. 😂😂

How's your new trousers?

Value lies in scarcity like coins . The age does not make it valuable but the amount produced that year or like in bikes how many of a model was produced over the production period of a certain model. 🆒😎👍.

Riding a bike it´s all about joy and freedom. Unless you work for Uber, then in this case just buy something reliable and cheap. Owning a bike for me is having something that makes me happy and worth having.

Unless you're a mega rich collector, a future classic and the value of it is almost irrelevant. For the vast majority vehicles are too expensive to be ornaments.

Only buy a bike to ride it. If you break even reselling it you have done well. Save a fortune on valve clearance checks: buy some feeler gauges and check them yourself. Your Aussie subscriber is right. I've been stunned by Aprilia forums where people who have bought 15 grand superbikes baulk at the cost of brake fluid. If cost is an issue buy a cheaper bike so you can afford to keep it well maintained. Numbskulls. And your anti Guzzi guy is wrong. My 85 Le Mans 1000 is fantastic, reliable and a joy to ride. The guzzi V twin goes forever. Bi rebuild needed for hundreds of thousands of miles. You just need to service them more frequently than modern bikes. But, and it's a big but, you can do the servicing yourself. I stripped down and reassembked a Le Mans 850 in my garage with no previous knowledge of the Goose. Just a manual is all you need.

The only thing worse than a V-Strom 650 is having to drive a car. Life is just too short to ride boring bikes. The SV650 is a 🍑 though.

regarding the comment about how the price of a bike dies with its generation. i believe that any older bike could become a classic, its just that nobody wants to buy them, getting them serviced and/or repaired is too costly. mechanics at the moment charge first rate fares for second rate jobs, and its killing the passion of younger, lower earning riders too. Additionally, i think a bike actually gains value once the equivalent generation of owners die. People’s appreciate thing more once something is gone. The bikes arent gone persay, but the era and people are.

Did Freddie say ....your privileged to own a... a MotoGuzzi, or.....a Ducati !

YES!!! It’s the passion! Nothing about having a bike is rational! If you want to be rational, safe and cheap, buy a Toyota Corolla! I own a Harley because it puts the most massive smile on my face, not because it’s an intelligent choice!

It’s not the speedo, it’s usually the front wheel gear drive.

I am 64 I must be expensive

Not sure about lifetime value, but if it last a lifetime, you’ve got you money’s worth. I think today’s inflation kills kills that theory.

Passion! There is no common sense with passion. They are mutually exclusive. Without passion what are you left with? A Toyota Corolla. 😂

without passion I would ride a UJM...

What's all this about not servicing your bike,instead throwing them away for such a simple operation like valve gaps. If you ,like most , think the dealer costs are prohibitive,learn to do it your self. How can people talk about passion for a bike that they will bin off for the sake of a few minutes work.