Wrong - he's the fourth case - the first was when the Daleks tried to introduce the Dalek factor and ended up receiving the human factor. The second was when Davros used human heads to create a new race. The third was during the Time War when the Daleks used captive humans as cannon fodder, sticking them into shells and mutating them. This is the fourth case. The fifth case was Dalek Sec.
Wrong. It did have access to weapons. Did you forget about all of the people that it killed, or the fact that it used its gun on the stairwell to kill that one guard? Yeah, that totally makes the Dalek incapable of using its weapons. It was no longer broken the second that it downloaded the entire internet. It was totally able to fix itself, therefore making it no longer broken. Look it up. The clips are on RU-vid, you nonentity.
This is, without a doubt, one of the greatest episodes of the show. It shows the Dalek as this truly terrifying, unstoppable force that cannot be beaten or reasoned with, much different from the non-threatening caricatures they've become in later seasons. And then it takes this insane killing machine, and makes it relatable and vulnerable. The Dalek's death is still one of the most emotional moments in all of Doctor Who.
Metaltron's disgust at its change is an opposite to the Doctor. The Doctor changes into a new man through regeneration, it's natural and he accepts it. Metaltron changes into something new through a sort of regeneration, and can't live with it
@@tustinrocknrollfan4798 Thankfully, it appears they're fixing the damage which occurred in the Moffat era and making the Daleks badass again, if the performance of that lone Dalek in the New Year's special is any indication :)
Aidan Keogh It was empty inside. There was nothing in it but a void. And it didn’t even have its own kind to share in the misery. It was alone. Utterly and completely alone. And it never understood why. It never understood that what it was caused the extinction of its species. At least not until the end. It was the knowledge of its true nature that made it want to die. It was filled with hate, anger, despair and the hunger for power. There was nothing inside it but darkness and evil. Anything The Doctor could use to hurt it pales in comparison to the pain of realizing what it was, and what that meant. In the end, the poor thing was unable to cope with the reality of its existence. So, it chose to die rather than live with the knowledge of what it represented. It was a damned soul, something bereft of everything good in the universe. I think in the end, it realized that. I think this Dalek’s choice of suicide was an act of repentance. I also think it was an act of self-mercy. It wanted to die because it couldn’t accept what it was, and because it knew that by dying, for the first and only time it could do something right. I feel sorry for it too. It must’ve realized that it was an abomination. There’s no worse feeling than the realization that you are a monster. That poor, poor machine. It was created with an abandoned heart.
Scotty Bee You don’t really understand how an advanced civilization would view us, do you? The closest planet outside our solar system is Proxima Centauri. With our technology, it would take 54, 400 years to get there. That’s more years than we have recorded history. Don’t you get it? A race that could travel here with ease would be so far advanced that we would be less than insects to them. Aliens don’t need to destroy us. We were never a potential threat to them. We’ll destroy ourselves before they ever feel even the slightest bit of mild apprehension at our existence. You should count yourself lucky that no alien civilization has contacted us. If they did, there would be no stopping them. This isn’t a movie. Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum don’t save the day. They don’t come here to offer us friendship. They don’t seek domination like The Borg. Aliens would come here for one reason and one reason only: to eliminate a potential threat. They’d have no other reason to come here because if they could and they wanted to, they would be here. We are beneath their notice. If you’re going to try and fight the aliens, go ahead. Let me know how that works out for you. I, on the other hand will be bowing to my new galactic overlords because I have enough brains in my head to know when I can’t win. But all is this is academic until aliens show up on our doorsteps. And I for one, pray to all the gods I don’t believe in that such a day never comes. So should you.
You'd think when a Dalek has to self-destruct, it would want to take out as much of the surrounding area as possible. But this one blows itself up inside a force field. That's rather polite, actually.
*"I can feel... So many ideas... SO MUCH DARKNESS."* That was the moment the last Dalek realized just how much death and destruction he and his species was responsible for. It wasn't just about being the same as Rose, but he just didn't want to live with himself after all the terrible things he's done. *"This is not life! This is sickness!"*
To be honest, I didn't think the Dalek Exterminated itself because it was now impure. I thought it did it because it now realised how terrible it's life and conditions were, and decided to die so it wouldn't have to live like that.
it's kinda poetic since they are made to destroy and conquer and a delek is the reason the dalek became extinct. i can feel so many ideas , so much darkness ( i think it saw how humans are just as capable of destruction as a dalek as it became smarter through mutation ) it cannot do anything without orders getting the genetic code from rose i think made rose tyler somehow the commanding officer of the dalek
I thought it was because it couldn't live with all of the sins it committed. This is a Dalek we're talking about. From birth this thing has done nothing but cause pain, agony, and destruction. So what happens when you give that thing complex feelings? You give it empathy, and therefore the ability to fathom the immeasurable suffering it caused. So personally I think it was just guilt that drove him to exterminate himself.
Not only that, but the Daleks are in a constant state of pain due to Davros' experiments. They're made to think that that pain is caused by everything else in the universe. Maybe Rose somehow broke that conditioning
@@Myne1001 Same, maybe with time travel being a plot point you could have Daleks from the past being a issue, be nice to have the sliver and grey ones back.
@@alexanderasher8037 Apparently the work environment was incredibly toxic back then, and it's why Christopher Eccleston only stayed for one season and has never returned to the show
The only Dalek that ever felt guilt. Think about that. Daleks are designed not to feel anything but extreme hatred. Anything that is not a Dalek is to them little more than an obstacle. This Dalek, in becoming human, learns to feel guilt and fear. It realises the atrocities it has committed, and all it wants to do is die. I saw this episode for the first time when I was ten years old. I'm 22 now and this episode gets more and more interesting the older I get. I really must properly rewatch the series sometime.
Dalek Caan also felt guilt, which was why he helped destroy the new dalek empire, he saw all of time and saw the atrocities the daleks had committed against countless species and declared that he would stop it from ever happening again by destroying Davros and the New Daleks.
Imagine if you suddenly gained empathy towards the ants you stepped on, the bugs you sprayed for being pests. Empathy the same level as one human feels for another. You'd be suicidal too
Dalek Sec as well. Ever since he evolved into human hybrid and gained emotions, he became a good guy, even siding with the Doctor so he could change everything that makes them Daleks. Unfortunately, he was overthrown and killed.
You should listen to Jubilee, they are written by the same writer and he used it as the basis for this episode but it is just as brutal to hear as this Dalek's realization and suicidal pleas.
The True Dalek Origin. There was a shipment of canned calamari that they mistakenly put between the bathroom isle and the kitchen isle and then... Oh hey I just remembered I am a loser who still has not caught up with the first generation of online 2D gaming .
I know! There's a brilliant shot in this episode, where after the classic "You would make a good dalek line" it cuts to the doctor's face, with complete silence and a totally black background.
Something tells me if this Dalek had lived and learned to accept it's mutation it might have become a character that is basically the antithesis of what the Dalek species is supposed to be. It would have been interesting, but somewhat tragic.
404 Error not possible. Daleks were once human like but Davros did all in his power to remove all human decency and feelings from them. The dalek was not able to cope with having his long dormant humanity, as it were, suddenly thrust upon him. Change was being forced upon him, but as a dalek he literally couldn't change. He's become philosophically compromised right down to the very core.
@@Matheus21video The originals were Keleds but because they reproduce by transforming other into Daleks they sometimes use humans. Ironic that a race that talks about being pure was never pure to begin with.
This right here is proof of something magnificent: the Daleks true weakness is their fear of what we call humanity. They were not strong enough to handle the beauty and pain of life and the complex emotions and experiences that accompany it. Therefore, it is important to remember that experiencing life and humanity, embracing love and empathy, suffering through the pain and surviving, and never thinking that these precious attributes are a weakness. If you can live with them and embrace them, then you are truly strong!
This Dalek was the first to realize it. As Dalek Sec was the first of the Daleks to embrace this when he became the first Human-Dalek Hybrid. Would love to see another story like this for the Daleks one day. One where maybe one group of Daleks managed to accidentally succeeded where the Cult of Skaro failed back in the Daleks in Manhattans 2-parter stories.
These kinda scene always get me. Like if Joker gained his sanity back and looked at all the pain and misery he caused. Or when captain Picard gained his identity back. So much sorrow and soul crushing pain. How can anyone bare such agony without losing themselves?
Christopher Hager ongoing series - The White Knight. Batman forcefeeds Joker a lot of psychiatric medication... and it works. Joker regains his sanity, by the medication is killing him.
@@Arman-tq4jq Thats only because Martian Manhunter could only do it for so long. And then recently because he ran out of meds. Depends on the story. He has no real control over his illness. Same with Batman Who Laughs.
I this moment I see Rose as one of the ultimate Companions. She can show mercy to a Darlek and is willing to tell the Doctor no and that he is in the wrong. "He's not the one pointing the gun at me."
This is probably one of the saddest moments in all of Doctor Who. Think about it. A creature that only has the capability to obey, kill, and hate. But at its end, it was cursed with emotions. With kindness. With empathy. With fear. For a creature like that, it's only torture of the worst kind. It's very existence causes it to hate itself in every way possible. But in the end, it was allowed to follow both parts of itself. It was allowed to exterminate something defective, and allowed to die to stop feeling so much pain for what it caused. That's why it sounds so relieved to tell Rose that it's scared. It's scared, but it's simply relieved.
I think there is something to be taken from the simple fact of the Dalek race. That the worst, most horrible hate-filled creatures in the universe are, below their terrifying shells, rather helpless, disgusting, and pathetic creatures. They are this way because someone made them this way and because they do not wish to change. And ultimately, they will never be happy because they can never appreciate the simple joys that make existence bearable and worth living. Things as simple as feeling the sun on your skin. (Note: I'm not an expert at Doctor Who, so if I've got a fact wrong or something, please forgive me).
Hatred is not strength. Hatred is sickness and poison, a crutch. Yet some people drink freely of its toxicity. The Daleks were made into monsters and they went on to make monsters. Did they know better? Probably not. They are like children raised to cruelty. But children grow up. And when they do, they are exposed to all the things they were taught to hate. And they have a choice to make: keep hating or learn and grow beyond their blind hate. This Dalek is one of a very small handful (Dalek Sec, Dalek Khan (?), Oswin the Dalek, and Rusty being the only others I can think of offhand) to ever look beyond hatred. I also think this is the one that came closest to being something other than a Dalek (other than Oswin). Khan and Rusty sought the destruction of their kind. Oswin was a Dalek in form rather than in truth. And Sec may have been a visionary but he wasn't all that human. But this Dalek, the very first Dalek we ever see, was the closest to growing beyond being a Dalek, the first to exhibit something genuinely human. And I can't describe it because I don't even know if this emotion has a name. But it's that moment of just stopping and letting go. Letting go of pain, of fear, of hatred, and just taking in the moment.
I love the theory but you've looked too much into it. The real reason is less human. They are a species of purity in all shapes and forms. The fact emotions have been introduced go contrary to every Dalek directive which is why its in so much distress and ultimately commits suicide.
The Doctor hates war and killing, but felt no remorse in destroying Daleks, because they were nothing but killers. When Rose told him this Dalek changed, he looked disgusted. If the Daleks were more than just killing machines, then he was a murderer. And it disgusted him.
Because... they brought some much destruction, he made such horrible choices during the war, crimes, he saw onto darkness in them... maybe... maybe somewhere win past, maybe he was thought he could trust them and maybe reason with them. He saw something crawl up the light while he fell into the dark.
Fun fact: the bbc wanted the Dalek to call Rose his friend. But Sherman was adamant that this didn't happen. This Dalek wouldn't do that, not even feeling emotions would change it. It still hated everything and everyone , it was disgusted in what it became.
Time lords legends thought half timelord half dalek but they thought that because these two races were the most deadly war civilizations. But was hybrid doctor or Ashlidr?
Isn't it funny how in series one, both times the daleks appear, they end up as half human? I find that kind of interesting. This dalek has Rose's DNA inside of it, therefore half human, and the daleks from the finale (excluding the emperor) were made from the dead bodies of humans.
See I thought the Daleks came from a Humanoid race (The Kaleds) thus wouldn't really have been impure in the final of season 1 this one became impure because it had emotions
A dalek is trapped in more than just its casing, it’s trapped in its worldview. They are trapped in the illusion that they are superior to all other lifeforms. This dalek saw outside the cage , and while for the most part it was disgusted by what it saw, a smaller part was looking out of the cage longingly. It’s last words were “exterminate” but I like to think the last thing going through its mind was “I wish I could be like you”.
I wonder what the Dalek meant when it said "This is not life, this is sickness." Was it referring to what it had become after absorbing Rose's DNA, or being a Dalek in general, only coming to that revelation once it felt humanity. Daleks obsess over purity more than anything, and thus to be "contaminated" with humanity, it saw itself as sick. Or was it that humanity made it realise that a life of hatred, of orders, of destruction is not living at all?
The concept of a dalek becoming self aware of his own hatred is quite destructive for a dalek, like dalek caan and rusty, in the end a dalek and a cybermen are not all that different.
Definitely a missed opportunity to say the least. It would've been an amazing way to send off an era of the show long since gone by (The Classic Series) as well as showcase the subtext of this episode being how Doctor Who (The New Series) was going to fit into the Modern Age of television. Granted the BBC would obviously never do that considering the Dalek iconography but story wise to see the last remnants of the Classic Series die with dignity would have made for some really powerful stuff.
This originally was supposed to be the last time they appeared. BBC don't own the rights to the Daleks, the estate of Terry Nation (the creator behind them) does. So whenever they keep bringing them back they have to pay royalties, this episode was supposed to be a one off cameo / tribute to fans of the old series.
When I first watched this episode way back in 2005, I was almost in tears, because I didn’t know there were more Dalek survivors at the time (I should’ve known better lol) but I was sad because I thought it actually was the last Dalek in the universe. I thought we were watching the show’s most iconic monsters come to an end, the end of an era. They were extinct. Of course, I felt stupid when they revealed them to be alive lol.
I think it would have been better had this really been the last Dalek. And the "daleks" that came after it where some new creation mimicking them. Would be a cool series of the Doctor trying to figure out A. where did these new daleks come from. And B. Who made them (not Davros, that'd be boring tho.)
The S1 finale hits harder for people completely new to Doctor Who. You have this episode making out the Dalek to be such a horrible and deadly creature, and then later you get to see a whole army of them and feel the dread set in. That's what I felt when i first watched dr who
A Dalek lives for nothing but killing and conquering, his brain and mind literally are forced not to intervene with his being. He has a purpose and he will pursue it, without questioning himself. The only concept he has is the one of empire, he doesn’t sees himself as an individual. Rose gives him the one thing that Daleks always keeps away from their self: self-consciousness. He finally starts to see himself for what he truly is. When the dalek says: “this is not life, is sickness” it refers to the existence he has lived until that moment. It’s so. Fucking. Sad.
It’s just strangely eerie that the Dalek used to be an almost human race (the Kaled) and have twisted themselves to make themselves extremely alien and disturbing.
@@darlig.ulv.bakhjernedon't think it can be understated how much the individual writers made some episodes so much better then others, take the impossible planet two parter excellently written by one writer followed up by love and monsters/fear her written by someone else, the contrast in quality is staggering haha
@@sevenv2154 And most of the best episodes in the RTD era were written by Steven Moffat, something most people dismiss when praising RTD. In fact most of the best episodes were not written by RTD.
Everyone gets all emotional at this scene, but it's important to remember that the Daleks value purity above all else, even their own survival. The human equivalent to this scene would be a Nazi committing suicide after having his life saved by a blood transfusion from a Jew.
People get upset over this scene not because they have forgotten what horrible creatures Daleks are but because of how conflicting the situation is. Daleks are evil, no one is arguing that. But seeing someone so tortured, so vulnerable over something that should be better for it leaves people with many conflicting emotions.
It's worse than that. It's not that the Dalek wanted to die for being "impure". The mutation awakened his mind to the horror that is his existence. The "sickness" isn't his changing, it's what he is and always has been. Imagine that you're a Hitler Youth super soldier for eons, and then you're given DNA that extends your perceptions of reality beyond what you were programmed to. The moment he achieve self-awareness, he also realized his own existence is an unbearable abomination, and that he couldn't live with he had been doing his whole life. He who increaseth knowledge, increaseth sorrow.
Mister Bubbles It doesn't have anything to do with that. The Daleks had no emotions since they were created except one: hatred (i think you write it that way). If a creature of any kind had no emotions and then in a split second start to feel everything, ideas start to flow through it's mind and starts to see the world in a different way, it wouldn't handle it. The brain and soul of the Daleks are not prepared or geneticly programmed feel the things that humans do. "I can't handle so many ideas."
Some Geezer i think they meant the real world equivalent mate, i always thought as someone already pointed out that in the end having its emotional range extended to more than just extraordinary malice made it see itself and its race in a way that disgusted itself to the point of becoming suicidal. When it says to Rose "i'll not be like you" i thought it was more saying that to try and goad her into ordering its death
The one thing you can say in the Dalek's favor is that they didn't choose to be xenophobic, they were made that way. In a strange way the Nazis, despite being far less destructive, are still more evil. After all, they had the choice to be what they are, the Daleks didn't
I think this is one of the most underrated episodes in the show's history since it was brought back to the TV. Dalek is, in my opinion, once of the show's best episodes. There are some cheesy moments and unneeded moments but the plain destruction this one Dalek causes, the emotional turmoil of the Doctor and, weirdly, the Dalek itself, makes for an amazingly in-depth episode.
One of the few times where you genuinely felt sorry for a Dalek….even knowing what him and his entire race have done. That Dalek was having a major conflict inside becoming something more than hate and killing….this episode we see the Doctor is more like the Daleks than even the Daleks themselves at times….
Its strange but when the dalek is begging Rose for an order, it uses what I can only guess to be its real voice. It's Kaled voice, before it became the monster in the shell. In that last moment, it became what it once was again, as if it was begging Rose to let it die a Kaled, not a Dalek.
The music in this scene is beautiful, I was watching The Impossible Planet from Series 2 tonight and it had this same soundtrack in it, and it instantly made me think of this scene.
Mutant Enderman They are mostly used like fingers, scanning the environment around it, they can also be used as a self-destruct device if necessary, I just wanted you to know that.
I love this episode because it not only makes the Dalek a terrifying, skilled killing machine, but it also makes you feel empathy and compassion for it, from birth it’s trapped in a cold machine. Never feeling love, or warmth, or any positive emotions. Fuck
This scene made me cry like a baby when I first saw it and it makes me cry now. This really gave another side to the Daleks that wasn't seen before and made the Doctor realize that he would be no better than the Daleks who killed his kind if he had killed it.
Note that offset of the dalek's single eye is a mouth and second eye fused shut, a nod to when they were once humanoid but have been so dreadfully disfigured that only remnants of their old selves remain.
the writer of this episode, Rob Shearman, added a flashback in the novelisation describing the birth of the Dalek, and it was born with two eyes, but one was ripped out with a spike because the Daleks decided it didn't serve a purpose
not just in this story, but whenever a Dalek starts to change it wants to destroy itself. They are so convinced of Dalek purity that the'd gladly kill themselves at the first sign of "impurity", so I don't think a Dalek would ever be able to fully change
takeshi hiraoka To be honest I think it's happened a bit too much by this point. I mean in the classic series it only ever really happened once with evil of the daleks which made it pretty special. However in newer who there's this, evolution of the daleks and inside the dalek, so I think it needs a break
I totally agree. I guess ever since they first appeared the writers and producers have tried to make them more and more evil. If I had the chance I would try to make the DALEKS not so much as human, but sort of a mix. Thereby making the different views on life and existence all the more poignant and taut.
I think this episode came the closest to realising that concept Into The Dalek tried to do something with it as well, though it essentially backfired in the 12th Doctor's face.
I know Daleks are evil, but this one changed. It’s sad. I call it the depressed dalek for many reasons. “So... many... ideas... So... much... darkness...” “This is not life, this is sickness...” “Are you frightened Rose Tyler?” “ *Yeah...* ” “So... am... I...”
It's rare for the Doctor to get a companion like Rose. She actually saw the Dalek, an organism built for killing, not as a danger or a monster, but a someone else. Someone she felt pain and sorrow for. The empathy she displays to the Dalek and it back to her is beautifully heartbreaking.
i think the new who dalek mutants are better because they now include an eye and the remains of a mouth along with other features which serve as a grim reminder that they were once humanoids walking around like we are
Actually, as an alternative view, I greatly prefer this one, because it is so decrepit and inhumane. I imagine, by looking into this dalek's actual eye, that it can't see very well and it's gurgling croaky voice implies it is sickly. I believe it makes the dalek seem more sympathetic, because they are beyond the point of any animal or evolutionarily capable species without the aid of their "cold metal cages."
They come across as sick because they are devoid of any feeling in this mutants case feelings nade it physicaly sick and it was repulsed. Just think long ago it was probably a mother or father walking around just like me and you
Really does go well to showcase how the Kaled's had decayed given the War on Skaro leaving them so disfigured and disgusting. Feeble yet filled with an indignant hatred of all life that does not suffer equally to them.
After seeing this scene again, I never realized how sickly and weak this Dalek looks compared to all the other times we’ve seen Daleks inside their shells. It’s honestly just sad how this scene is.
This episode did what none other ever dared to. It humanised a Dalek. Gave it emotions, fear, sadness and ultimately... it was depressed. Impurity to Daleks isn't life. That's why it couldn't live.
Well, it also showed why Daleks can't feel any other emotion. Here the Dalek became self-aware of what it was made for. Thats where the line "So many ideas" is contrasted with "So much darkness". It was able to feel the light of humanity... only to realize how horrid of an existence it has had. That it killed so many people and was a blight on life itself. That amount of guilt would cripple anyone. Just like it did to the MetalTron. Ironically, Daleks are weaker in that aspect. They can't live with themselves if they truly were able to comprehend what they did.
The greatest episode of Doctor Who ever imo. Just imagine if this was the episode used to end the 1989 series of Doctor Who. What an ending. The Doctor finally coming to an emotional peaceful end with his greatest enemy of all time. 😢💔
The 9th doctor was the first Doctor Who series i ever saw. This episode was the first one to really pull me in, to show me that this quirky show and it's odd-ball props and weirdo premise was actually amazing. I hate what the show went on to do to the Daleks. How many times can a enemy be "wiped from the universe" only to come back? How many times can you sell people on ideas of making the Dalek's sympathetic, and then making them big enemies, killing them off in a way that implies they're gone forever, and then bring them right back? It stops making them threatening and it stops you from feeling invested whenever the doctor needs to decide to Genocide the Daleks, when he's done so about 5 times and none of them have stuck.
The show also _always_ kills off any good dalek in the same episode/comic/short story, with Rusty as the only exception (and he was also supposed to die at the end of _Into The Dalek,_ only for the writers to change their minds). I hate that actually. Why can't there be one or two good ones, why must _every single one_ be pure evil??
@@saagabragi6938 even then, the only "Good" Rusty has was the Dalek-Like Hatred the doctor has for the Daleks . it still has the hatred and the murder-happy of the daleks.
The Doctor understands the Dalek’s better than anyone else. He actually apologises to the Dalek for it becoming more, for gaining empathy, because he knows that goes against everything the Daleks are.
A Dalek, feeling all these new emotions through a Human's DNA, could not handle the guilt and supposed "impurities" it was taught to hate, and thus decides to end it's life But before that, he decides to cling to one more, familiar thought, one that brought fear to others, but duty, and now comfort, to him "Exterminate" 3:26
This was when Doctor who's writing was good, a dalek that wants to die because it can't accept not thinking and feeling like a dalek. I love how they really make you feel sorry for the dalek because it has to think like a monster with no mercy
All come to mind I saw this episode 13 years ago as a 6-year-old kid. Was absolutely terrified by the Daleks and now still am. But watching the ending is truly heartbreaking.
Very well done where the Dalek demands/orders Rose to order it's own destruction, and yet despite the seeming authoritative nature of the statement, you can tell it's begging her.
