Doctor Who Season 3 Episode 12 Reaction | The Sound of Drums 

Have you seen my breakdown of episode 10 - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OYJXNLQFrRQ.html Deep Dive of episodes 11-13 coming 5/13/24

Martha is the GOAT. She may have been a bit poorly appreciated back in the day but she gained a shit ton of love ever since, and deservedly, she's awesome.

Probably one of the darkest and most hopeless cliffhangers the show has ever done

I don't think it is really true that Martha was hated, just that people were still reeling from losing Rose. The same thing happens whenever the Doctor regenerates - most people hate the new one at first until they get used to him, then they just get over it.

My favorite shot is the dancing feet of the wife “Here Come the Drums”

The actress whom portrays Tish Jones, Gugu Mbatha-Raw, later went on to portray Ravonna Renslayer in the Disney+ Loki series.

12:26 this one is actually an inside joke. In the 90s, they planned to reboot Doctor in USA. One of the things in a show bible was to reveal that Master is Doctor's brother.

This Master is total madness, enjoy the ride!

Freema did her own stunt driving for this episode and smashed it. Her flat blowing up was mostly practical too. And Saxon has been mentioned as far back as Tennant's first episode with him being the one behind the strike on the Sycorax. Simm described himself as wanting to have a character who uses the Doctors best attribute, ability to talk/charm situations, against him.

Nice mix of Time Lord costumes in the flashback. The young Master is wearing the gowns introduced in The War Games (1969) and the older Time Lords are dressed in the robes from The Deadly Assassin (1976).

Are you planning to wstch the Timecrash minisode after ep13 ? The Teletubbies scene is an easter egg reference back to a classic Master story.

Your comments about jessica Jones are exactly right for me! I'm glad I'm not the only one that loves tennants portrayal of the villan....

I downloaded the last four videos to watch offline on airplane. I have really enjoyed your last reactions. The return of this classic Who arch nemesis was such a delight when it happened. The Doctor should always pause to consider consequences. Harriett Jones was supposed to have three terms but he toppled her government.

Two great things in this episode, the first appearance of Murray Gold's glorious Gallifrey theme, and the correct use of the word "decimate".

Please don't forget before the end of Tennant's run that he also shows up in a two-parter on The Sarah Jane Adventures, entitled The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith.

John Simm's breakout role was in Human Traffic, an awesome film from 1999 about a bunch of friends partying on a typical weekend. Very funny, worth a watch.

We are loving The Dr Who reactions 🧡😍 The Master is a sublime psychopathic enemy and played brilliantly by John Simm. The Master has many incarnations, exceptional, surprising and all mesmerising. You are in for a wild bonkers ride 🔥👌

Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons' 'Cloudbase' was back in the sixties and more likely what RTD was thinking of.

If you want to see more of John Simm dealing with 'time travel', you might enjoy reacting to the original BBC "Life on Mars". He's good in that, and it has a short two-season run.

This is one of the strongest runs of back to back to back episodes of the modern era, although the latter half of series 4 is probably even better than this 👀

Quick moment of appreciation for Adjoa Andoh. She was originally cast as one of the Cat Nuns in New Earth and RTD and the production team liked her so much they wanted her back for a bigger role.

When you said that about not fitting . . . I felt that. I get anxious at theme parks because sometimes I’m not gonna fit. Sometimes I do. But it ain’t fun to find out until the end.

I like how you called them little upgraded Daleks because originally the BBC couldn’t get an agreement with the Terry nation estate (the original designer) to use the Daleks image in the new series so they came up with a toclafane in place of the episode “Dalek” was probably gonna be used as a stand in. But of course he got sorted out so the spheres got used later.

Fun fact: Mister Saxon. is an anagram of "Master No. Six" he's the sixth face of the master.

The music over the car escape is called All The Strange, Strange Creatures, and I love it. One of my favorite pieces of music in NuWho.

13:08 Oh so the Time Lords are like the ancient Spartans and the Halo Spartans. They indoctrinate their kids into the ways at the age of 8. I missed that when I first watched this.

Like David Tennant, John Simm is a really wonderful stage actor too. I've seen him in Hamlet and Elling and he was fabulous. There's a terrific TV thriller mini series from 2003 called State of Play, in which he's one of the leads, and it's something I rewatch every few years because it's so so good - only 6 episodes and worth checking out if you see it streaming anywhere! The last few years he's had his own detective show called Grace, which has been pretty successful and I think the fourth season is later this year. And then there's a pair of shows from around 15 years ago called Life On Mars and Ashes To Ashes, which I can say nothing about that isn't spoilery other than - definitely worth checking out!

People say this is the most hopeless for The Doctor, but think of the fact that The TARDIS, previously described with the quote, "The TARDIS. MY TARDIS. The best ship in the world." Was basically abused by this madman for a third, maybe even fourth time. No doubt a paradox machine for her feels like waterboarding with a time vortex.

The Master is Moriarty to the Doctor’s Holmes. The Blofeld to his Bond.

I would love to see your reaction to Life on Mars which stars John Simm (the Master here). It's about a British detective who gets hit by a car and when her wakes up finds himself in 1973. Soon after it finished, John Simm was chosen to play the Master. BTW Like many British actors, John Simm sometimes gets lead roles, in British shows but not in American ones, He also does a lot of theatre...he's not a "bit player" in the UK. BTW I agree with you about David Tennant in Jessica Jones; he was the only reason I watched that show. I'm looking to seeing your reactions to Ncuti's new episodes and glad you will continue to series/season 4.

The comment about secret brother was deliberate as was the answer "you've been watching too much tv" as that WAS the plan back in the 70s but the original master actor died and so it never happened....

If you ever want to check out a classic who episode I would always recommend one of the Master series. John Simm plays him wacky but he has always been a bad guy’s bad guy.

When Doctor who was must see tv with a small budget

19:38 is a re-quote from the Master in a classic serial from 1980, Logopolis. "Citizens of the Universe, please attend carefully..."

Oh, now we *rollin'!!!!* THANKS for this!!!! Let me go get my breakfast while I celebrate this nine hours before #NcutiGatwa!!!!

This incarnation of the Master is so much fun to watch!

Glad you’re enjoying this set of episodes. After the next episode, the finale, can you react to the 8 minute mini episode Time Crash? It’s a funny nod to old classic Doctor Who that will get your viewers explaining so much to you, and what it meant to David Tennant as a child, growing up watching and loving Doctor Who back in the early 1980’s.

When the Master was offering his wife Lucy "Would you like a jellybaby?" which is a british candy is a call back to the Fourth Doctor (Tom Baker) who would often offer his friends even enemies a bag of jellybabies. The Second Doctor (Patrick Troughton) and The Eighth Doctor (Paul McGann) would also occasionally do it.

I really hope the new season doesn’t spoil anything for series 4- 13 for yall

Congrats guys, nearing the end of 3. And good to hear you’ll be following 15 on his new journey, looking forward to it. And just know when you come back to Season 4 you’ll be entering what many Who fans consider to be the best season of the show…. Personally 4 of my top 10 and 2 of my top 5 favorites are in this season. You guys are going LOVE it 👍🏾

PS In season 1, when the rights to use the Daleks were in dispute, the Toclafane were going to be their replacement. Once the Dalek rights were secured, the Toclafane were moved to series 3.

Season 3 is awesome, but wait until the both of you guys get to Season 4. So many (many) revelations will be revealed. I can’t wait to see your reactions to them 😊 The Master is (in my opinion) the greatest enemy of The Doctor ever. I’m so excited that you guys are learning about him and his relationship to The Doctor. At some point, you two need to watch and react to my favorite movie 4.3.2.1. This movie was directed by Noel Clarke (who portrayed Mickey Smith). This movie has a lot of actors and actresses who were in Doctor Who (with the exception of Emma Roberts). It’s awesome that Noel Clarke casted some of his Doctor Who cast mates, and it’s also awesome to see the cast members in this film being portrayed as regular people with no sci-fi experience attached. #whovianforlife

The master in classic who was famous for hypnotising and controlling people....

As others mentioned here, John Simm played the lead in 'Life on Mars' (2 Seasons x 6 Episodes in 2006 - 2007), Stephen King tweeted in 2021 after watching it again: "One of my favorite shows of all time. The kind you go to when you’re feeling sad". Just saying ....

The Master watching Teletubbies and thinking they're real is, I think, a joke that refers to the old show. It's a dim and distant memory, but the Master in the old show was watching The Clangers and shining they were real too. (The Clangers was a kids show about puppet mice who live on the moon). And yes, Season 4 is great too. This season maybe has greater highs, but Season 4 is more consistently great.

Unfortunately William Hughes who played the younger Master in that flashback died of self-deletion at the age of 20.

Sure, this episode predates the Avengers movie by nearly 5 years... but flying aircraft carriers have been prominent in sci-fi for a while. The SHIELD Helicarrier first appeared in Marvel comics in 1965, and the British sci-fi show _Captain Scarlet and The Mysterons_ had the SPECTRUM Cloudbase (a similar design) back in 1967. A lot of these things have existed in parallel for a long time - Doctor Who started in the same year as the first Avengers comics.

28:00 actually, Kristen Ritter is so the opposite of Jessica irl, this take caught me off guard a bit. I know a lot of action/super hero actors end up playing a fantasy, high morale version of their real life personalities, but Kristen is like a stereotypical valley girl in actuality… bubbly, high pitched voice, def not the alcoholic doom and gloom emo investigative journalist she is in the series😅 Not to take from Tennant’s performance as indeed a great villain is an essential, but the villain wouldn’t hit so hard if we didn’t care for the protagonist in the first place!

LOVE your reactions to Doctor Who!!

THE MASTER is the arch enemy of the DOCTOR and every time an actor is picked to play him he is a good actor almost as good as the actor playing the DOCTOR

Absolutely loving these doctor who reactions!

Of the back of this great season, the Xmas special that u will watch turns out to be the most viewed episode of Dr who in the modern age (around 13 million from memory) and arguably, with adjustments one of the highest viewerships ever.....

This is a bleak and terrifying cliffhanger. In the 2000s John Simm was well known as the lead in the series "Life on Mars", about a modern day police detective who somehow falls back in time to 1973 and discovers that the past really is another country. A very different role to this one. He is clearly having fun with it.

P.S. to Rekkai: you think you doing (pre-)MCU comparisons now..... :) [CENSORED] :)

This particular arc with the introduction of The Master is a GOOOOD few episodes. Now you are Dr. Who-ing. You're in it now!

I was on the edge of my seat as a 13 year old when this episode first aired and as a 28 year old I still am 🤣

It’s been a pleasure watching you guys enjoy what we’ve all loved for years. :)

There is a huge 4th season spoiler . . . In Ruby Road. . .

Purple man is coming back to the shows on Disney

"Funny? No? Little bit?" WHY did I never catch that before???

If you like John Simm (the master) in this episode, you should check out a show he played the main role in called "Life on Mars", it aired at around the same time in 2006 and 2007 and is a psychological police drama with a twist, i HIGHLY recommend this to anyone

I'm with you on the tight spaces man! Whatever you do, don't watch the horror movie "the descent".... a horror movie set in claustrophobic cave tunnels.... horrific!

AAAAAAAAAAA🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩 IM SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!

8:25 Surprise! 👀

YEAH!!! Now we're talking. So happy you guys are lapping it up. Great stuff? Keep on keeping on, you'll not be disappointed 😁👍

Glad you are enjoying it. For me and several of my Whovian friends including my daughter who was 12 yo at that point, it definitely went off a cliff after Capaldi the 12th Doctor. Such a shame. Even some of the writing in his last season was atrocious.

Just curious, have you though about watching Classic Who? You would learn so much of its history.

Ignore the 'President-Elect' bit. RTD had no clue what that meant.

Great reaction ❤😊 One of my favorites 😊

Hell yeah great reaction 💯👍👍👍👍

Life on Mars is a series where John Simm is the main and it is another great British series you could watch.

Love your reactions ❤

It's funny you refer to the Toclafane as upgraded Daleks, cuz they were originally concieved to replace the Daleks as "The Enemy" of the Timewar if they couldn't secure the rights to use them. Also, with regards to your dual journey, that's strangely appropriate for you to do. Very timey-wimey.

A thing i love about the Master as a antagonist is that where the Doctor has spent hundreds of years wandering and helping people. The master has spent hundreds of years going around finding ways to gain power so you never quite know what he will be able to pull out when facing the Doctor.

The master has always been one of my favourite doctor who villains and John Simms (life on Mars, check it out) has done him so well!

The Master is a crazy bad guy that's been around since the 1970s. This season is good but the next is fantastic with the greatest companion ever and you probably know who she is.

I am so glad you're enjoying these episodes ao much, the hype for the second half of season 3 is well-deserved, the storytelling and acting just does not slow down! I absolutely agree, the Master is a superb villain, and a really good choice for the Season 3 finale story. We needed a villain who would make things personal for the Doctor. Season 1 has the iconic Daleks, who are indeed threatening and scary, with their one-track drive to exterminate all other life in the universe. And season 2 upped the ante by adding Cybermen to the mix. But if season 3 was just the Toclafane, it would start to feel boring, have an enormous arm of metal monsters terrorizing humanity again. But with the Master, he is specifically doing this to mess with the Doctor, messing with his Tardis, targetting his companion and her family, and rubbing the Doctor's face in his failure to protect the planet. The fact that the villain is another Time Lord is another aspect that twists the knife for the Doctor; finally he's not the last of his kind...but at such a cost. Cannot wait for the next episode! The next episode is the one that truly cements Martha as my favorite Companion, she's brilliant throughout but as Rekkai noted, right now everything comes down to Martha... I feel like the two-parter of Hunan Nature/Family of Blood serves as a bit of foreshadowing for this story, that Martha finds herself on her own again, the Doctor needing to rely on her to save the day.

SO Tinnitus can turn you EVIL!! 🤣 I'm so excited to see you guys so excited for this one! Glad to hear you're gonna do the new series too, I really hope there are no spoilers in that for Series 4 to 13+. Will be an adjustment though not seeing you 3 times a week, but I'll find some Copium somehow. You guys help me get through long work days, I do most of my watching on my Rsenal's Arsenal account and make comments with that, but today you get the main channel cause I was off work, I'm recovering from oral surgery. I told you all about 2 weeks ago I had a toothache and that's gone now! Don't forget you have a Christmas Special after the next episode, so if you wanna take your hiatus after that, that would be cool 😉 Just for a reference for you going forward: Episode 3-13 (obvi) 2007 Xmas 4-1 to 4-13 2008 Xmas 4 2009-10 Specials 5-1 to 5-13 (there are 2 cool minisodes from DVD extras) 2010 Xmas 6-1 to 6-13 (3 minisodes came with the DVD so you can watch after if you want, they're just for fun. They also did 5 mini-prequels to episodes for DVD too) 2011 Xmas 7-1 to 7-5 2012 Xmas 7-6 to 7-13 (6 more optional minisodes to slot in if you want before the last ep) 2 Minisodes (1 is important) 50th Anniversary Special 2013 Xmas 8-1 to 8-12 2014 Xmas 2 fun Minisodes 9-1 to 9-12 2015 Xmas 2016 Xmas 10-1 to 10-12 2017 Xmas 11-1 to 11-10 2019 New Years Special 12-1 to 12-10 2021 NY Special 13-1 to 13-6 3 2022 Specials 1 Minisode 3 2023 60th Anniversary Specials & now for Doc 15: 2023 Xmas Special you saw and now... 14-1 to 14-8 OR as they're starting over numbering 1-1 to 1-8 but calling it Season instead of Series. But then the original 26 outings of Classic WHO were called Seasons too, so yeah, confusion and consternation abounds. If they wanted to be original they should've called the new soft reboot Serial 1, just my opinion. Hope this is helpful. Take a screenshot and use as roadmap!

Martha was a great character I just wish they didn't write her mooning over the Doctor, such a strong person except for that.

Yes the Doctor is an alien scientist atleast in Classic Who that's how he describes himself NuWho however kind of lacks that at times but also loves exploring the universe while The Master is the opposite he wants to conquer and rule the universe.

I love your reactions, so I'm really glad you are going to do reactions for the new Ncuti Gatwa series.

I like the “99, 98?” from the Master.

Man there's so much for these boys to look forward to. Y'all have been loving season 3 but you have an absolute S-tier BANGER season in S4 coming up. Can't wait for y'all to get to S8/9/10 too

Okay. Let's try this again, shall we? At the end of this season/Series (right after the finale), there is a so-called "Minisode", like there was after the Series 1 finale. This one is 8 minutes long, is called "Time Crash", and is well worth watching. It can be found under this RU-vid "watch code" (the bit after watch?v= in a RU-vid URL): 4I76p1cZbq4 (can't post direct links to RU-vid comments). That is, if you don't mind watching it in 240p, although I suspect that was the original quality when it first aired. The Christmas Special, on the other hand, is called "Voyage of the Damned", and is 72 minutes long. As such, the Christmas Special and the Minisode are NOT the same thing. The Minisode goes before the Christmas Special, right after the Series 3 finale. I really do hope you guys watch it, as (in my opinion at least) it is brilliant.

Great plan with Ncuti. But you need to watch series 4 asap!!

Prepare yourselves for a insane ride! 🙏🏽💪

No spoilers but you think you love Martha now ???? Next episode is why she's still myfavourite companion after all these years ❤.....River comes a close second ...Spoilers

a lot of stuff about the doctor and his past, the show has purposefully only hinted at over the years-what's the show’s title again? but his name is an interesting one. though more recently it's been suggested the doctor chose his name way back, back in the classic series the show played it for years that even the name we do have for him was all a misunderstanding that he just rolled with. in the very first story, the doctor's new companions-to-be mistook who the doctor actually was-but then lacking anything better to call him, just went right on using "the doctor" up until they left. but before they went, they introduced him by name to the next companion, and so on. all through the original black-and-white era, the writing is very deliberate so that people who know him just introduce "the doctor" into new situations, without his usually needing to say anything about who he is. in the rare occasion he identifies himself, he says something like "they typically call me 'the doctor.'" it's not until deep in the second doctor's era that we ever in so many words see him say "i am the doctor," and unambiguously self-identify by the name everyone had been assigning him for like five seasons already. it was like, "all right, everyone keeps telling me i'm this 'doctor' person and they keep assigning me all these attributes that they think 'the doctor' has-so why not just embrace it? okay, fine, i'll be the doctor then; from the way you describe him, he sounds like someone worth being." i mean, it's subtle-but if you watch closely, the writers really went out of their way for years, across several production teams, to keep up this thing of, "no, people just keep calling him 'doctor,' but we don't really know anything about who this guy is beyond what people accidentally project onto him." like, the character was a total enigma even in dialogue almost until the show moved to color. again, it's still... vague, but these days the implications go a slightly different direction, with the doctor having chosen their name well before leaving home. even then, the show barely does more than suggest that, so a definite statement could just as easily swing things back the other way and put us back with him shrugging and eventually just leaning into this persona that had been sculpted for him.

Btw she can’t realistically go back in time and change it, it will create a paradox(preventing the things that causes you to go back) especially since this is likely a fixed point

You two need to watch the classic era from Doctor Who. Probably starting with Spearhead From Space.

6:22 👀

The Master's wife is crazy like all my exes, and I love her ❤❤ I make some bad choices...

marthas going to time hop and fix this...if only the writing had that much thought lol

Are you ready to react to the new season!

are u planning on watching the whole show?

You're selling John Simm VERY short. Simm is one of the UK's finest actors and has had many starring roles over the last 30 years. But not that many genre shows, so you may not have had much exposure to him.

If y’all gon react to new who be realllll careful there’s definitely some spoilers ahead so be careful about that

Please don't do both at the same time

You think this villain is good? wait for M******

Nope. NuWho is not Doctor Who. It's woke garbage, and I'm not even going to touch that with someone else's stick. Even before Disney got involved. What they did to The Doctor, rewriting his history and legacy, is unforgivable. And if you don't see that, I don't know what to tell you.