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It is one of the most debated aspects across the different denominations of Christianity - the practice of glossolalia, colloquially known as "speaking in tongues" or a "heavenly language." It is practiced predominantly by the Pentecostal Church but is it a belief that has a place in Greek Orthodoxy?
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@angelbonilla4243
@angelbonilla4243 Год назад
The Apostle St. Paul spoke mystically in tongues in his devotions, he himself said that he spoke in tongues very often but he taught that in the public meetings of the church, in the liturgy, glossolalia should be limited. In his epistle to Corinthians, he asked the church not to prohibit speaking in tongues, but to do it with decency and order. May God bless the Holy Orthodox Church and fill it with all the charisms of the Spirit. May God bless the Orthodox pastors and continue to anoint them to guide the people in these end times.
@trazeallreview7876
@trazeallreview7876 3 года назад
Glory to God. I am a Brazilian Pastor, I am very happy to see Orthodox Church teachings :D
@annunciationorthodox
@annunciationorthodox 3 года назад
Thank you and God bless!
@Mark-yb1sp
@Mark-yb1sp 3 года назад
I had an experience 20 yrs ago where I was overwhelmed during prayer and could not speak in English, and all that came out was a guttural language that was over powering. I continued with this language for 20 yrs in Pentecostal circles. But now, as I seek the Orthodox Faith, and study the true faith, I now realize that maybe what I experienced back then, and what I have BEEN doing is NOT from God’s Spirit, but from something either demonic, or just plain from me. Either way, I cannot keep doing it because I believe I’ve been shown the truth already.
@Mark-yb1sp
@Mark-yb1sp 3 года назад
@@peepeepoopopolous2288 Wow. Incredible. I’m having to relearn all the I believe ‘all over again’ while I walk this Orthodox journey. I’ve been a follower most of my life and I see now where it has gotten me.
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
The Pentecostal movement is rooted in prelest. I’m shocked by this video. Not helpful one bit.
@adisaargani836
@adisaargani836 3 года назад
@@ignatiusl.7478 you are ignorant but confidently judges other believers. there are thousands of people who have experienced deliverance from the bondage of sins and demonic oppression through Pentecostal churches, many Pentecostal ministers live in holiness and purity. but you arrogantly judge them all being prelest....
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
I was raised in it. I was deeply involved in Pentecostal ministry. I went to Bible college and worked for the Foursquare Gospel Church for years. The movement is heretical and dangerous. I repented of it and never looked back. I suggest you do the same. Is it all bad? No, but false churches are never all bad. There are wonderful people that are sadly being misled. I stand by what I said. The movement is rooted and shot through with Prelest (spiritual delusion).
@adisaargani836
@adisaargani836 3 года назад
@@ignatiusl.7478wonderful people ? shallow observations of Pentecostal movement. you have never met Pentecostals who follow the path of discipleship as described in the Gospels and live in true holiness and purity of heart. they are committed to sacrifice their lives for the gospel and live outside of the comfort and safe zone. I pity your experience. but what is most pitiful are the Orthodox christians in my country who are deluded, claiming they have the apostolic faith but they live their daily lives as LOSERS, chained to sin and worldliness, including the priests. even there are celibate priests here who are secretly involved in homosexuality. yet they dare to brag that they are superior compared to the Pentecostals I've described above. 👎👎
@vasileiosmorossidis6857
@vasileiosmorossidis6857 4 года назад
In orthodoxy there are occasions were foreigners visited contemporary saints, such as saint Paisius, and the saints were conversating with them for hours, without knowing their language. I believe it's common but in orthodoxy it isn't hierarchized in a high place, as a gift of the Holy Spirit.
@brettcopeland9811
@brettcopeland9811 3 года назад
@@vivian5361 I disagree. The Holy Spirit can work through the most sinful of men at times. The ability to speak in languages one has never learned is not a sign of sanctity or of salvation although the saints are probably more open to such experiences than most of us who live and often think like unbelievers. Saint Gregory Palamas in his "Triads" says it is possible to legitimately speak in tongues given by the Holy Spirit and not derive any spiritual benefit from the experience. Although the Gift is for prayer to God and operates through the body, it does not result automatically in prayer of the heart. One's heart can be far from God while receiving Divine Grace.. That's why many can receive Holy Communion and genuinely receive Christ Himself while at the same time eating and drinking condemnation upon themselves because of their flippant approach to the Holy Mysteries. If God gives unholy people the Holy Gifts to receive even though "Holy Things are for the holy," why wouldn't God give a comparatively insignificant gift like speaking in tongues to a person for spiritual edification and support and an encouragement on the path toward Theosis? We ought not to limit what God is willing to do for us by our theological presumptions, which are based more on our own impoverished spiritual experience than on the promises of God given to us in the Scriptures. The Christians in the Church at Corinth had a lot of struggles with sin and carnality. The Apostle Paul called them "babes in Christ" and "not spiritual," but rather "carnal" because of their earthly mindset rather than being in possession of the mind of Christ. Nevertheless, so many of them had the genuine gift of tongues that the Apostle Paul had to give them guidelines so as not to abuse the Grace given them in this particular operation of the Holy Spirit. It appears they were misusing the gift , either for exhibitionism or in an egocentric way, and that they would all speak in tongues at the same time in their worship services either to show off their gifting or to edify themselves without benefitting others gathered there. Saint Paul told them to stop this since it did not edify others and it would be an occasion for unbelievers to blaspheme and blame the genuine working of the Holy Spirit on insanity or on the kind of ecstatic behavior characteristic in the festivals of the pagan cult of Dionysius. Isn't that what happened when the apostles spoke in tongues at the same time on the Day of Pentecost? Many accused them of being drunk when they were all extolling the wonderful works of God in various tongues. What happened then on that first Pentecost and at the Gentile "pentecost" in Acts 10 is not meant to be normative for the Church. Those experiences of all speaking in tongues at the same time were not to be normative as Saint Paul makes clear in First Corinthians 14. Paul said he wished all Christians could speak in tongues (14:5), but he also says that such a manifestation is given by the will of God (12:7) and that not all speak in tongues (12:30). He also said that love should be the guiding principle, seeking the good of another, with respect to the charismata. He also said he would prefer that all Christians should prophesy and he seems to indicate that all Christians can prophesy (14:31). Moses had said, "Would that all the LORD’s people were prophets, that the LORD would put his Spirit on them!” And Joel prophesied that God would pour out His Spirit upon all flesh and that our sons and daughters would prophesy. Orthodox Christians are given this same Prophetic Spirit through Holy Chrismation, although it woefully lies dormant or only liturgically operative in many of us due to sins of pride and unbelief. Saint Paul encourages tongue-speakers to seek the gift of interpretation of tongues so that the Church may receive edification (14:13). Saint Gregory Palamas says that Saint Paul encourages us to seek this gift of interpretation through prayer and the persons Paul is addressing are tongue-speakers. By saying this, is Saint Gregory implying that he himself speaks with tongues? Perhaps, though he does not put the spotlight on himself the way the carnal Corinthian Christians did and the way Pentecostals often do, but Saint Gregory walks a path of humility to which the Church testifies. Anyone gifted with charismatic Grace ought to be very fearful of abusing such Grace for as the Lord said, "To whom much is given, much is required." If we use God's Grace in the Church as an occasion for pride, boasting of our sanctity, our spirituality, our Holy Mysteries, our Orthodoxy, or our whatever, we are condemning ourselves. It requires true spiritual discernment at times to distinguish between a genuine spiritual manifestation and a false one. An axiom such as "if the tongue-speaker is nothing close to a saint, the tongues are obviously demonic" is insufficient and may actually be plain wrong in certain circumstances. What ought rather to ask: what is the purpose of this particular tongue-speaking? What is it resulting in? Toward where is it leading? Is it leading the person toward humility or toward pride? Toward repentance or toward complacency? Toward penitence or toward foolish laughter? Toward the Church or away from it? Toward the Holy Chalice or away from it? Toward Christ or elsewhere? As far as contrived or demonic tongues, none of what I said above applies since such tongues are not from God and are therefore void of Divine Grace. One ought to desist from such a spiritual manifestation rather than trying to align it with the Orthodox Faith.
@nnamdichrisume9384
@nnamdichrisume9384 3 года назад
@@brettcopeland9811 wow
@molintsui7501
@molintsui7501 2 года назад
@@vivian5361 What makes the Saint a Saint? Before they were canonised by the Church, they're not Saints, but they could speak in tongues already while they're still alive on earth. I do not think it's justified for you to just write us off as possessed by evil spirits because we speak in tongues but aren't "canonised Saints".
@molintsui7501
@molintsui7501 2 года назад
@@brettcopeland9811 Thanks.
@INFJPhilosopher
@INFJPhilosopher 3 года назад
I really appreciate that Orthodox Christians are not quick to speak ill of congregations they do not agree with.
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
Actually we tend to be pretty blunt and call a spade a spade but when it comes to a persons heart we grow silent. We don’t pretend to know what God is or isn’t going there. We are taught to be concerned about our own struggle against sin.
@molintsui7501
@molintsui7501 2 года назад
@@ignatiusl.7478 No, you're not that blunt, at least, not tactless or uncivilised. Most Orthodox Christians do not seem hostile or disrespectful towards their separated brethren; unlike some of the Protestant denominations I know, which have quite a number of loud-mouthed, arrogant leaders and public figures.
@bernicesanders3148
@bernicesanders3148 Год назад
@@molintsui7501 no they have arrogance and sit back and talk about other faiths but invite no one to their churches but family members. He talks about love but they only give love to each other and point fingers at protestants. At least protestants welcome everyone to come to their church.
@bernicesanders3148
@bernicesanders3148 Год назад
@@ignatiusl.7478 Why don't you use that bluntness and call out so many of the orthodox that don't attend church. Pointing at the issues of other church to set yourself above them while ignoring your own problems is the height of arrogance. Jesus said why talk about the speck in your brothers eye when you have a plank in your own
@bernicesanders3148
@bernicesanders3148 Год назад
You must be joking😊
@JoshuaCookLibertyIsRising
@JoshuaCookLibertyIsRising 3 года назад
Coming from a Pentecostal background this is so good to hear!
@molintsui7501
@molintsui7501 2 года назад
Amen
@snowps1
@snowps1 Год назад
I thought the whole speaking in tongues thing meant they were given the ability to speak in many different languages. So they could speak the language of whomever they were speaking to.
@Unpluggedx89
@Unpluggedx89 Месяц назад
That's exactly what it is. It comes from the Greek word glossar which nowadays means languages. But the Protestants and charismatics tainted the whole thing and now use it for their own gain. Nothing more. Read 1 Corinthians.
@robertclark2240
@robertclark2240 День назад
You only read Acts II. Read I Corinthians.
@danieleriksen1130
@danieleriksen1130 4 года назад
With respect to the Pentecostalist congregations, I have met a few people who would talk of their experience at these large gatherings. However I was disappointed that this talk did not speak of the problem of 'discerning the spirits'. There are many sources of inspiration that we must be careful about. In India the Hindu mystics have many 'powers' and experiences that are impressive. If we read St Paissios' book on the 'Gurus' of India, (he was monk at Mt Athos, Greece who I met in the 1980's) we definitely need to 'discern' what is happening very carefully, without judging, given our own small bit of wisdom. God alone knows what is happening, as this video suggests also. As the wind, the Spirit blows where 'He' will.
@Babahashish
@Babahashish 3 года назад
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@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
It seems prudent to stay within the confines of the Orthodox Tradition. The vast majority of us lack the discernment to always know what experience or miracle is from God and what is not in the Church let alone outside of it. Regarding the Pentecostal experience of “tongues”. It is foreign to the Tradition of the Church and appears to be a cheap counterfeit of the biblical gift of tongues. Does that mean there aren’t instances of the legitimate gift of tongues? I don’t know and I don’t worry about what God is doing outside the Church, that is his business. We need to be concerned with our own salvation if we are going to be any help to anyone.
@allenmorgan4309
@allenmorgan4309 2 года назад
I know that it is not of God. The Hindus are lost as well as everyone that believes, practices and teaches false doctrines which are lies of the devil and demonic in nature. There is only salvation in Christ through obedience to His Word. There is no other way the scriptures as well as the church has made that very clear. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3‭-‬4 KJV
@asto5767
@asto5767 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, even pentecostals will agree with you and tell you that you can receive the gift of tongues from the Holy Spirit or from demonic influences, and there's a gift of discernment as well. I've ran into both the holy and unholy tongues. It's just a mystery of the faith at the end of the day. God is just and he reads our hearts; our zeal and righteousness is the currency of us reaping our blessings or curses. Orthodoxy liturgic and adhering to early church traditions definitely gives them a reward of understanding Christ's divinity in a deep level, but Pentecostals worship God in energetic, powerful way; adhering to psalms 47:1, psalms 33:3, psalms 150:5, etc... That is why you find the common pentecostal man or woman experiencing anecdotes of miracles a lot more than the orthodox. Their worship is ACTIVE. tl;dr we all worship God and we're rewarded for it
@andys3035
@andys3035 Месяц назад
Having been raised in a Pentecostal church and now Orthodox, I think there were many problems with the focus on tongues. For one, it was seen as THE spiritual gift in Pentecostal circles when Paul says it's the least of the gifts. He also says not all speak in tongues and uses an analogy of a body and its parts and how each person is gifted to serve the body of Christ rather than all serving the body as an eye. I also believe that most of the people who said they spoke in tongues, don't actually have the gift. Not that I know that they did or didn't have the gift, but that if the Bible doesn't give credence to the idea that this is the sure fire way to know you have the baptism of the Holy Spirit, then we shouldn't focus on it either. I think while people are sincere, it can be dangerous to risk mocking God by claiming you have a spiritual gift when you don't. Lastly, I'd add that how this is practiced in Protestantism has deviated from the Acts 2 recording of the events. Those gathered weren't seeking tongues, they were seeking the Holy Spirit and to be empowered and the sign they received was miraculously being enabled to speak other languages and share the message of Christ.
@carolineboenig8069
@carolineboenig8069 4 года назад
One of the best explanations I have heard.
@annunciationorthodox
@annunciationorthodox 3 года назад
Thank you!
@thegamethemovie9605
@thegamethemovie9605 2 года назад
Related to language: I grew up with Latin services, but then permission was granted for localized language services. Understanding is important. I've attended mass in many languages since, and recently my local mass is often conducted in several languages at once. I'm just happy to be among Catholics. No matter our country, culture, or race, we are in communion. It's comfortable. I appreciate the reminder here also that human-created languages are limited. None are better than any other.
@xxFairestxx
@xxFairestxx Год назад
None are better than any other? He didn’t say that lol. All are limited but there are varying degrees of limitation.
@natnaelwondem8364
@natnaelwondem8364 3 года назад
Orthodoxy is the right way ጌታ ሆይ ቤተከርስቲያንን ጠብቃት አሜን
@Dudemanbro1577
@Dudemanbro1577 3 года назад
Lord, protect the church. Amen. Love from the Armenian church :)
@mrspencer9999
@mrspencer9999 3 года назад
Jesus is the right way
@Dudemanbro1577
@Dudemanbro1577 3 года назад
@@mrspencer9999 He's also the left way... hehehehehehe....
@devonjosiah7308
@devonjosiah7308 3 года назад
@@Dudemanbro1577 😂
@iamchristian5735
@iamchristian5735 2 года назад
Amen amen amen wendime lek Neh bro
@LK_Ireland
@LK_Ireland Год назад
Thank you!
@davidbraun6209
@davidbraun6209 3 месяца назад
I think what you had stated made very good sense.
@elainakosmidis8657
@elainakosmidis8657 4 года назад
Euxaristo Pater. 🙏
@nurainto1906
@nurainto1906 Год назад
Orthodox teachins say when Holy Spirit touches one's heart, he experiences the serene joy when you're so deeply joyful and full of love in your heart but you don't feel the need to exteriorize that in any way, no shouting, no speaking in tongues, God forbid, no jumping, nothing outside, everything inside
@titianmom
@titianmom 4 месяца назад
I agree with all you say as a Pentecostal; it certainly isn't a requirement. But it is a blessing for prayer. I will be praying that Mt. Athos' monks are blessed. And yes; may God have mercy on me, a sinner.
@birthing4blokes46
@birthing4blokes46 Год назад
Helpful thank you. Paul did say that he spoke in tongues more than them all?
@annatolipashalidispalombo7905
Beautiful
@JayRedding-cd7fb
@JayRedding-cd7fb Год назад
I remember that word Glossolalia. The last protestant church I was a member of was pentecostal. I was always trying to grow in holiness so I thought maybe God was calling me to be a prot pastor so I went through a pentecostal ministry network. But they weren't going to "ordain" me because I don't speak in tongues.
@brettcopeland707
@brettcopeland707 4 года назад
Thank you, Father, for your learned response which contradicts a preponderance of ignorant statements I have heard from other Orthodox commentators on the topic. Your words are more in line with the writings of Scripture and of the Holy Fathers than many other Orthodox opinions I've read and heard. I was raised in a Pentecostal church (the Assemblies of God) and in my late 20's I was received into the Holy Orthodox Church. I cannot deny many of the things I "heard and saw" within Pentecostalism the way many cradle Orthodox flippantly dismiss the whole lot of Pentecostal experience. In my own local assembly, a woman well-loved in the Church spoke in tongues at length on two occasions in which she was understood by speakers of foreign languages. In one case, she spoke in Hebrew and was understood by a visiting missionary to Israel who explained what she had said. In another case, she spoke in a Native American language and was understood by someone visiting the church who also told the congregation what she had said. In both cases, her words were in praise of the Lord. I also have first-hand knowledge of similar experiences. So it is lunacy to me when Orthodox monks, deacons, priests, or bishops lambaste modern Pentecostal experiences as being either fake or demonic. We cannot put God in a box. Surely there is fakery, mimicry, social conditioning, mass hysteria, and the demonic, but even all of that cannot discount that miracles do at times occur both inside and outside the Orthodox Church. Christ Himself acknowledges that miracles do occur outside of the Apostolic circle. I have heard some Orthodox clergy seem to take comfort in an opinion not favored by Saint Gregory the Theologian and other Holy Fathers, preferring to believe that the miracle of tongues at Pentecost was an auditory miracle or something limited only to the Apostles rather than miracles of utterance under the direction of the Holy Spirit in all of the 120 disciples gathered. Saint Gregory of Nazianzus, the Theologian, says regarding the 120 disciples gathered at Pentecost, that the preferred interpretation of the text is that the miracle was not in the hearing of the crowd, but rather in the mouths of the disciples because the Holy Spirit was giving utterance to them, not changing the sound by a miracle in the hearing of the foreigners that heard them. The Theologian says that that is why "they were reproached for drunkenness" (On Pentecost 15). By saying all of this, I am not excusing the fallacies of Pentecostal and/or Charismatic doctrines. Their excesses and unorthodox teachings and practices are clear to anyone taught in an Orthodox way of understanding Scripture. Even if some of the monks of the Church did speak with tongues during their private prayers, they, out of humility, would probably keep it a secret. Having read many writings of the Holy Fathers, I am convinced that the gift of speaking in tongues operates through the body (Gregory Palamas TRIADS) and can even do so in those whose hearts are prayerless (ibid.) So speaking in tongues is not necessarily "prayer of the heart" as Fr. Alexis Trader claims. John Chrysostom describes the phenomenon at length, stating the tongue of those given this gift would move under inspiration of the Spirit and they would speak in a language unknown to them. But, as the Apostle Peter and Saint Irenaeus say, genuine gifts of the Holy Spirit are not subject to the will of man and are given at whatever moment as the Holy Spirit wills. One given such a gift may of course refrain from or even resist its use. The clergy can quench the Spirit and despise prophesying and the exercise of other spiritual gifts. The Holy Spirit can be grieved. The Church must stop condemning speaking in tongues and forbidding speaking in tongues and zealously desire to prophesy. These things are sought in prayer and Paul wished all the Corinthians could speak in tongues outside of the Church, even though all do NOT speak in tongues. But, whether they spoke in tongues or not, he wanted them to prophesy. The Church should command those displaying genuine miracles to be joined to the Church as Peter commanded the house of Cornelius, but not demonize the miracle with some kind of undiscerning knee-jerk reaction as if all spiritual phenomena outside of the Church are counterfeit. Again, thank you for your gracious and educated words, Father.
@andtou1342
@andtou1342 3 года назад
Wasn’t the lady at your church speaking real languages? Most people who try to speak in tongues only speak gibberish.
@thecomforterhascome2031
@thecomforterhascome2031 3 года назад
This is really thorough and well-researched! Thank you for quoting and citing so many sources!
@sidpan8218
@sidpan8218 3 года назад
Read Fr Seraphim Rose
@brettcopeland9811
@brettcopeland9811 3 года назад
@@andtou1342 Yes, on two occasions, the language she was speaking (which she did not know because she was a monolingual, English speaker) was recognized by another person present. On one occasion it was a missionary to Israel who spoke Hebrew and on the other occasion it was a Native American man who recognized his native tongue being spoken by her. She was speaking praise to God. It was in a small church in a small town that these two occurrences happened. She was a good friend of our family. She was not a charlatan and she had no prior interaction with the people who recognized her tongues. Although she was not an Orthodox Christian in the formal sense, her life was characterized by love and a desire to please Christ.
@brettcopeland9811
@brettcopeland9811 3 года назад
@@thecomforterhascome2031 Thank you. I added more detail below also.
@gabrielgabriel5177
@gabrielgabriel5177 Год назад
So most churches, orthodox, catholic, protestants do not speak in toungues although they say that this gift exists. Some protestants like some babtists even say it is not anymore available. But pentecostals actually have this gift and use it.
@petervorias8621
@petervorias8621 Год назад
Speaking in tongues was when the Holy Spirit came upon the Apostles of Jesus, so to go out into the world to spread the Gospel in the language of 'said' country that each Apostle travelled to, not the demonic babble of the pentecostals.
@gabrielgabriel5177
@gabrielgabriel5177 Год назад
@@petervorias8621 apostle paul himself said that no one does understand tongues. There fore there are two kinds of tongues. Why do you call it demonic? Orthodox do not say it is demonic. Orthodox say that there is tongues but most do not speak in tongues. You need to repent and open your heart. Who told you that you need to call other christian demonic? Isnt that close what pharisees did when they claimed that jesus was demonic?
@benjohnsamuelkutty4751
@benjohnsamuelkutty4751 3 года назад
perfect 🥰
@jamesfoureight9879
@jamesfoureight9879 Год назад
Curious about orthodox beliefs on tongues. I’m new to orthodox views. Wasn’t Paul addressing tongues in context of church assembly for the edification of all, which is why he said he would prefer prophecy? My understanding is that tongues is of huge value, specifically for personal edification which Paul described himself as doing more than them all. Obviously in context of being gathered with the saints tongues is not the best for edification unless it’s interrupted which in that case it’s equal to prophecy. 1 cor <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="748">12:28</a> Paul describes what God has places in the church, and tongues is on the list. So if god placed it in the church it should have it’s function as god has desired right? Just being curious with an open heart.
@kaloyanivanov2801
@kaloyanivanov2801 2 года назад
I myself i`am pentecostal christian,and can confirm what the ortodoxy brother say is true indeed. I can add mach more on the subject,if someone is interested. God bless Shalom
@maricelachavezruiz620
@maricelachavezruiz620 Год назад
Yes! Thank you Father! We can trouble all over the Wonderful Universe! It is amazing
@DrKal-qd1ls
@DrKal-qd1ls 4 года назад
👍 very good
@david_porthouse
@david_porthouse 2 года назад
The point of the miracle of speaking in tongues is that an audience made up of people from many different lands will all hear their own language being spoken. Presumably a genuinely bilingual person would hear whatever language he or she chose. That would be impressive !
@jamesfoureight9879
@jamesfoureight9879 Год назад
Is this referring to Pentecost? I’m curious about this. Acts ch2 was a fulfillment of Joel ch2 which talks about sons and daughters prophesying. Could it be that the reason they spoke in human languages was because it was actually prophecy. Because Paul also says that one who speaks in a tongue speak to god and not to men for no one understands him. If no one understands him, doesn’t that prove that tongues is more than just speaking human languages?
@sonjahorn6235
@sonjahorn6235 2 месяца назад
What a wonderful explanation of speaking in tongue! I’m am Church of God - Cleveland, TN affiliation but I am interested in the Orthodox Church . I need further explanation of this orthodox belief in tongues. You quoted scripture but did not finish . The remaining part is …UNLESS someone is present that can interpret so the whole church can benefit from it. There are other scriptures explaining how it is to be done in order and three at the most but I’m positive you know this . Also, if orthodox believe that there is a heavenly language why do they not practice it ? In 1 Cor.14 Paul says do not forbid speaking in tongues and in Acts <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1146">19:6</a> Paul asked under what baptism and the believers said John’s then Paul laid hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit, spoke in tongues, and prophesied. Orthodoxy is the oldest Christian belief system and I just want to know if the early church spoke in tongues why doesn’t the Orthodox Church. I am genuinely trying to learn and I really liked listening to you speak! In Christ’s love Sonja
@annunciationorthodox
@annunciationorthodox 14 дней назад
Thank you sincerely!
@jeanj3890
@jeanj3890 4 года назад
Il y a 2020 que l'ESPRIT parle à Son Église. Voir les écrits des Pères, la Liturgie quotidienne, la présence des Gerondas du XXe.(St. Éphrem d'Arizona...)
@calitamarian7169
@calitamarian7169 Год назад
"While the Disciples were in the pavilion, on the day of Pentecost, about the third hour of the day, there was suddenly thunder from the sky, in such a way that it went through the crowd gathered in Jerusalem, from all over the world; and the Holy Spirit was seen in the form of tongues of fire, descending not only on the twelve Apostles, but also on the seventy disciples; and they began to speak in foreign languages, each of the Apostles speaking the languages ​​of all nations. Thus, not only did the other nation hear the Apostle speaking in his own language, but the Apostle also understood and spoke the language of each nation. For this reason the crowd thought that they were drunk, that not understanding how each Apostle could speak to everyone in everyone's language, they considered that one drunk. Others, however, wondered, saying: What does this mean? The crowd, gathered in Jerusalem for the feast, was from all parts of the earth: Parthians, Medes and Elimites, who had been enslaved a little earlier by Antiochus."
@markbrown6978
@markbrown6978 4 года назад
I became a Christian after calling out to God and received the gift of speaking in tongues. That was 29 years ago, I've grown in Grace as I've drawn closer to Jesus. I've been exploring Orthodoxy and am also a Charismatic Christian, when Praying the Jesus prayer , obviously as a beginner! It felt as if it was coming from that same Spiritual well. In terms of 'extasy' that's the first I've heard that before, I suppose we come from different spiritual traditions, however I'm attracted to Orthodoxy mainly because it seems to exude the heart of Jesus. Bless you precious brother
@jojotusmaximus1268
@jojotusmaximus1268 3 года назад
Kinda in the same situation brother! I actually visited a monastery here in Finland and as a theology student I ofc look how people view things, but I have to tell you that orthodoxy fascinates me. I really enjoy the services. As a pentecostal it feels like there is so many useless things and practices, but they carry such meaning and purpose! Also the differences in thinking about life after death are interesting. Orthodoxy seems to leave a lot of room for the mystery of God and the spiritual life itself, that propably excites me the most.
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
As much as we want you to become Orthodox. You need to really take the time to understand who we are and what we believe. I’m telling you right now Pentecostalism and Eastern Orthodoxy are not at all compatible. If this video gave you the impression it is that’s unfortunate. This video is not a fair representation of how the Orthodox Church views the Charismatic Movement. Read Fr. Seraphim Rose’s book Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future. Then decide if you are still interested in Orthodoxy.
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
Our eternal destiny is not sealed until the final judgment. All who truly seek God will find him. In this life or the next. Those who truly love God will never be lost. God’s mercy is beyond measure and his love endures forever.
@nnamdichrisume9384
@nnamdichrisume9384 2 года назад
I prayed in tongues a lot before I became orthodox. Attimes for 48hrs without pausing locked up in a room. I was a hungry soul. From the moment I became orthodox and was chrismated I began to pray the Jesus prayer and wept so much for my sinful condition, I couldn't speak or pray in tongues again. It just left. I have never experienced anything remotely close to orthodox Spiritual sobriety in all my years of "pentecostal life "
@orthodoxrocks9644
@orthodoxrocks9644 Год назад
@@ignatiusl.7478 right but he is but one father and does not represent the college. You are strawmanning the discussion in your response! I agree that certain beliefs in the Pentecostal movement won't fly in Orthodoxy. But to intimate that tongues don't in general should be examined further too!
@nsixvl
@nsixvl 10 месяцев назад
I've been Eastern Orthodox for over 25 years but was once in Pentecostal churches. I've never heard any of them saying speaking in tongues is necessary for salvation but rather for a subsequent blessing called the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. So I was surprised to hear the presenter say that. Perhaps the teachings in Pentecostalism have evolved since my time in the movement?
@hgfirestarter2k3
@hgfirestarter2k3 8 месяцев назад
There are some Pentecostals (mainly Oneness/non-Trinitarian Pentecostals) that teach that receiving the Baptism in the Holy Spirit (w/ the initial sign of speaking in tongues) is necessary to salvation. This view, however, is a minority view, as the majority of Pentecostals do not believe tongues to be a salvation issue.
@dialmformowgli
@dialmformowgli 2 года назад
Amin.
@schwartzkm
@schwartzkm 14 дней назад
Question: the Corinthians were called "carnal" by the apostle Paul yet spoke in tongues. Are the Monks on Athos not carnal enough for this gift? I word the question this way because it doesn't seem like extreme asceticism is required for any of the gifts listed in 1 cor 12-14 when one considers the carnality of the church the Apostle was writing. Thanks for this video.
@annunciationorthodox
@annunciationorthodox 12 дней назад
Father Angelo will be answering your question in tonight's live Orthodoxy Questions Answered!
@hotlanta35
@hotlanta35 Месяц назад
Someone invited me to their church a long time ago, after the service she felt compelled to make a scene and speak in toungues with her hand on my head😂 man it was so embarrassing
@annunciationorthodox
@annunciationorthodox 14 дней назад
Father Maggos will be answering your question during one of our upcoming Orthodoxy Questions Answered Summer Specials. Keep an eye out for those episodes Thursdays nights in July!
@amerikaansnieuws3248
@amerikaansnieuws3248 4 месяца назад
Wow i never thought about this in relation to the Orthodox. Very interesting and surprising. This does sound a lot more reasonable than those Pentecostals who claim that everybody has to speak in tongues. I always thought that they seemed to read a lot into speaking in tongues in regard to salvation which i found a little strange.
@FREEMAN....
@FREEMAN.... Год назад
Who said Latin is the heavenly language?
@zzzzppppooooo
@zzzzppppooooo Год назад
But wouldn't it be a gift imparted by the spirit? How could it be imparted to a Sekt outside of the "true" church? And why doesn't the orthdox church seem to put a greater emphasis on performing the liturgical worship in the language of the people, when understanding seems to So important to paul?
@johnnyd2383
@johnnyd2383 3 года назад
Yes they do... speaking Greek is just fine and sufficient.! Russians, Bulgarians, Serbians, etc. are fine with speaking their respective languages too... :o))
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
How is this explanation not confusing to people. If the Orthodox Church is affirming speaking in tongues as experienced in Charismatic Churches and yet he admits that it is not practiced by Orthodox Christians even on Mount Athos. The only logical conclusion from his perspective is that the Eastern Orthodox Church is lacking the fullness of what the Holy Spirit intended for the Church. Am I the only Orthodox Christian that finds this completely unacceptable? I’m sorry I stand with Fr. Serephim Rose and his analysis of the Charismatic Movement in his book Orthodox and the Religion of the Future.
@sidpan8218
@sidpan8218 3 года назад
Amen bro I finished Fr Seraphim’s book recently its very eye-opening
@brettcopeland9811
@brettcopeland9811 3 года назад
The gifts of the Holy Spirit are given as He wills--that isn't based on whether or not someone "practices" something. If God wills to give a gift and His will meets with our will, people's ideas about whether or not it happens or did happen or can happen are irrelevant. If the Orthodox of nowadays are unworthy of various spiritual gifts or believe they don't or can't happen or shouldn't happen, does that mean that the Church is not the Church? We are all afflicted with sin, from the most sinful to the most holy among us these days. None of us has perfect knowledge of theology or of God. The gift of tongues is a gift of the Holy Spirit and, as such, is a gift of the Orthodox Church, whether or not that gift is in manifestation since such manifestation happens according to the will of God. If Father Seraphim is making a blanket statement about the operation of the gift of tongues, he has gone ahead of the truth. The gifts of God are subject to His will (and the will of the one so inspired since it is a synergetic operation), but they are not necessarily subject to any blanket theological statement made by someone who "knows in part."
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
@@brettcopeland9811 are you Eastern Orthodox?
@brettcopeland9811
@brettcopeland9811 3 года назад
@@ignatiusl.7478 Yes, my whole point is to be open to the greatness of God's Grace, not limiting it by our preconceptions and unbelief, but judging spiritual experiences by the Light of the True Faith we have in the Holy Orthodox Church as we worship the Holy Trinity and grow in the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
@@brettcopeland9811 that’s what I’m do doing. That is what Fr. Seraphim Rose did.
@lancehiltbrand7811
@lancehiltbrand7811 10 месяцев назад
Nope. There was no mention of Prelest at all.
@felixguerrero6062
@felixguerrero6062 3 года назад
That's was a incorrect translation, of 1 Corinthians. St Paul says that that "Prophecy" is greater than tongues, not simply "proclaiming God's word." Its important to use accurate translations.
@patricklee8088
@patricklee8088 3 года назад
That's a difference without a distinction. The role of a prophet was not always to declare the future but to declare God's word to the people.
@felixguerrero6062
@felixguerrero6062 3 года назад
@@patricklee8088 False, it's an important difference as the future oriented, predictive aspect of prophecy is central to its verification and validation, Deut 18:22
@patricklee8088
@patricklee8088 3 года назад
@@felixguerrero6062 Again, to be given the gift of prophecy is not exclusive to only predicting the future. While person with the gift of prophecy may foretell events to come, the ultimate function of the gift is to declare the word of God. Thus Moses was acting as a prophet in telling Pharaoh to release the Hebrews, "Thus says the Lord, let my people go!" Same with Elijah who condemned the actions of Ahab and the priests of Baal. Jonah himself is a good example of a prophet whose ministry was not future oriented but declaring God's condemnation of their sins. To be a prophet is to reveal God's message or will to people.
@Tradition75christian
@Tradition75christian 11 месяцев назад
I go to pentecostal church but I love divine liturgy I wish the pencostals did it I want to become orthodox I'm scared of the icon kissing I don't know if I'm in violation of the commandment but I love eastern orthodox y I live stream english coptic Orthodox all the time
@antoniosvidakis
@antoniosvidakis Год назад
This was a gift given by God wherever there was a purpose, so that the Gospel would spread. Not something to show off in times where it is not needed. Because then devil finds a chance to fool people with fake miracles.
@Mike-hr6jz
@Mike-hr6jz Год назад
Paul said I speak in tongues more than you all mine are gift or not. It is a gift from the Holy Spirit, and, as scripture says, seek the gifts most of us today, do not understand it as it was understood in the first century, but it definitely is to happen until that which is perfect has come, which is. Jesus second coming, there is no doubt of this. Those who would try to convince us that it was the accumulation of the New Testament is denying that spirit would have not been functional for hundreds of years. Until the entire New Testament was canonized, forgetting that Jesus says I will not leave you comfortless there was no gaps and still are non-it’s not an either or it is a both, and scripture is the Holy Spirit at a rinse, written down and speak in tongues is many times, direct personal revelation to an individual. If God feels they need this type of revelation. The problem has always been other Christians, being jealous of God, revealing his personal word too. And individual and they feel they were left out. God does not leave people out, but those who have a jealousy issue will most likely not exercise any gift because of their pride. John, the apostle was called the beloved if God through Jesus happened to like John it’s not our concern. The fact is we get upset with our brothers and sisters when we see that they love Jesus more than we do and some actually do give 110% to the relationship. While others may give 80%, but not that 110 and they start screaming egalitarianism when the fact is, God doesn’t change we do our level of commitment is not the same and each of us and we are not to judge our brothers or sisters, but when we see God using people because of their humility, and giving their whole hearts to him many get jealous, so they claim this gift or that gift doesn’t exist anymore because they do not have it and someone else does.
@work7844
@work7844 2 года назад
Of all the people to show, he chose Robert Tilton, aka "The Farting Preacher." Lol
@robertclark2240
@robertclark2240 День назад
Now that we know what Greek Orthodoxy thinks about it, what does scripture actually say about it? Oh, wait. That’s secondary to systematic theology.
@sevastiaslanidousevosanisa6165
@sevastiaslanidousevosanisa6165 3 года назад
😇🇬🇷💙
@Englishkin
@Englishkin 11 месяцев назад
Human languages don't appear to be "man-made" but were, rather, given to Man by God (Genesis <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="667">11:7</a> KJV). "I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying. (1 Corinthians <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="845">14:5</a>: cf. Acts <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="121">2:1</a>-18 KJV).
@brettcopeland9811
@brettcopeland9811 3 года назад
The high degree of spiritual discernment among Orthodox Christians is not found outside of the Orthodox Church. No Orthodox Christian doubts the statements of Jesus Christ regarding the possibility that some outside the Apostolic followers may perform legitimate miracles in His name. Legitimate miracles lead people toward the unity of the Orthodox Christian Faith, but miracles which scatter people, leading them away from the spiritual unity found only in Christ are not of Divine origin. Christ also warns that miracles, casting out of demons, and prophesying (whether in the vernacular or in another language, i.e., tongues) are not signs of salvation because many who have done these things in His Name will walk away from Him on Judgment Day, going their own way into perdition because they are workers of iniquity (Matthew 7). Many wonder why the gift of speaking in tongues is rarely mentioned by the Church Fathers and why there are so few accounts of it in the lives of the saints, but why would there be many accounts of it if it is a gift whose primary purpose is to speak privately to God in prayer, and not publicy to other people (1 Corinthians <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="842">14:2</a>)? The saints do not tend to boast of spiritual giftings nor do they engage in charismatic exhibitionism. The sign of tongues initially confirmed the efficacy of the Sacrament of the Laying on of Hands for the Gift of the Holy Spirit, which was the normative means of the communication of the Holy Spirit. The sovereign act of God, apart from human intervention, which occurred at the first Jewish Christian Pentecost (Acts 2) and the first Gentile Pentecost (Acts 10) did not become normative. Rather, the Holy Spirit was given through the laying on of Apostolic hands (Acts <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="498">8:18</a>; <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1146">19:6</a>; 2 Tim <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="66">1:6</a>-7). In the early days of the Church, tongues was a sign to those who doubted the efficacy of the Apostles' laying on of hands. As the Church grew, the Apostles drew distinction between the laying on of hands for the Gift of the Holy Spirit and the laying on of hands for commissioning and ordination by the inclusion of a special Anointing for the Gift of the Holy Spirit. This would further distinguish this sacrament from the sacrament of the laying on of hands for ordination and thus help reduce any possible ambiguity in the Church regarding who was ordained by the Apostles, which ambiguity could be used by people with a penchant for power to lay claim to ordination when, in reality, they had only received the sacrament for the Gift of the Holy Spirit. To clarify and distinguish the sacrament further from Holy Ordination, the Apostles took the sacramental sign of Holy Chrism from the anointing of prophets, priests and kings in the Old Testament, seeing its connection with the Holy Spirit (1 Samuel <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="973">16:13</a>) and made use of Holy Chrism to communicate the Seal of the Gift of the Holy Spirit, not simply thru their administration, but at the hands of the bishops and presbyters whom they appointed. Now we require no manifestation of tongues to confirm the efficacy of Holy Chrismation, but we trust in the God who appointed the Apostles, and bishops and presbyters and imparted to them this Mystery. So there are no accounts after the Apostolic era of converts receiving the Sacrament for the Gift of the Holy Spirit and, consequently, immediately speaking in tongues. Such an outward manifestation is unnecessary to those who believe. But does that mean that the gift of speaking in tongues has ceased from the Church? Not necessarily. We know from Scripture and from Saint Irenaeus that many spoke in tongues in the early days of the Church prior to the advent of the Montanist movement with its imbalanced, aberrant eschatological ideas and strange forms of ecstatic inspirations which seemed not to be subject to the prophets (those thus inspired) contrary to the Apostle Paul's description of legitimate prophetic inspiration (1 Corinthians <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="872">14:32</a>). When the bishops of the Church rejected the Montanist movement the public display of prophetic gifts such as tongues, interpretation of tongues, and prophecy as is described by Saint Irenaeus and in the "Shepherd of Hermas" seems to have decreased sharply within the context of the worship gatherings of the Churches. Bishops certainly have the authority to "quench the Spirit" and to "despise prophesyings," even legitimate prophesyings. If they could not do that, Saint Paul would not have commanded us not to do so (1 Thessalonians <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="319">5:19</a>-21). Nevertheless, even though the literature indicates a marked decrease in the manifestation of prophetic gifts within the public gatherings of the Ekklesia after the clerical crack-down on Montanism, the hagiography throughout the centuries and even into present times shows how the prophetic charismata have continued in the life of the Orthodox Church, not so much in worship gatherings, though at times, perhaps, during the homily, but mostly in the lives of the saints, in their encounters outside of the worship gatherings with others in need of help, encouragement, admonition, healing, encouragement, etc. Also, when we look at the writings of the Church Fathers and other saints, Orthodox Christians discern the inspirational operation of the Holy Spirit, working through the saints, and the Church has "held onto that which is good," and these things have become part of the Tradition. Tongues, of course, is absent from such stories, because speaking in tongues is for the edification of the speaker, not others and Paul encourages silence in the assembly in the absence of one gifted with interpretation. With the squelching of Montanist excesses and aberrations and the consequent cessation of public manifestations of the Prophetic Spirit in the corporate gatherings of the Church, the public exercise of tongues with its requisite companion gift of interpretation would have largely or completely ceased. Once the public exercise of such gifts was a relic of the past, what would be the point of the manifestation of tongues and interpretation, unless it were in the private, prayer lives of the saints. By interpretation of tongues the saints could still benefit the Church, not immediately in the context of the public assembly, but, later, through teaching, writing, and personal conversations outside of the context of the worshipping assembly. After the public manifestation of prophetic gifts in the corporate worship of the Church had ceased and with the incorporation of written prayers inspired by the Holy Spirit, judged to be good, and held fast, into the liturgical worship of the Church, the need for such public displays lessened greatly, perhaps to the point of being unbeneficial. When those who are spiritual listen to the liturgical prayers of the Church, they recognize the inspiration of the Holy Spirit as the source of these prayers and the chanters speak "as the oracles of God," and, truly, they are. When Christians listen to these prayers they are edified in the faith and when unbelievers hear them, they are convicted. The same Prophetic Spirit that inspired spontaneous prophecies in the early days of the Church is still in operation in the liturgies of the Church. Furthermore, spiritual discernment has been sharpened because of the intensity of the liturgical prayers among the Orthodox faithful. Speaking in tongues would be strange and out of place in the context of the great decency, order, and reverence of the Liturgy, but it is wrong for Orthodox to say that speaking in tongues is not for today, that it is not possible today, that God is bound and cannot grant such a gift to anyone today, or that such a gift could only be operative in a highly-sanctified Orthodox saint. The Orthodox serve a living God and, as Saint Cyril of Jerusalem says, "Faith is a large matter." We ought not to put limits on the possibilities of Faith while at the same time, judging all things, discerning the spirits, holding fast to that which is good. Whoever is not from God does not listen to the Church and that is how we discern the Spirit of truth from the spirit of error (1 John <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="246">4:6</a>). The one who does not gather others into the unity of the Church, but rather scatters abroad, is not with Christ , but rather against Him (Matthew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="750">12:30</a>). We must beware of "prelest," spiritual pride, pride in so-called charismata, because such pride is a clear sign of alienation from God. Saint Gregory Palamas, in his "Triads," discusses the possibility of a genuine charismatic manifestation from God not benefitting the recipient spiritually. Better we not have any such gifts and be humble than be puffed up with pride and far from God with our "gifts." Such a gift could well become a curse to us if we are condemned by being lifted up with pride. When we truly benefit from a gift such as speaking in tongues, our hearts are afflicted with contrition and fear of God and joyful gratitude in the Holy Spirit, but if we are lifted up with pride or the complacency of laughter we ought to cease the speaking of such tongues. Bishop Kallistos Ware says no less in his excellent book THE ORTHODOX WAY.
@aeolus5849
@aeolus5849 2 года назад
Silence of the age to come
@billybenson3834
@billybenson3834 3 года назад
Just say "I should've bought a Kia" really fast if you want to speak in tongues.
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
Back in my day it was”shoulda boughta Honda car”.
@adisaargani836
@adisaargani836 3 года назад
your spiritual ignorance is obvious. it is the Holy Spirit who inspires glossolalia and because of that the Presence and power of the Spirit is manifested in authentic speaking in tongues
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
You have been duped by a cheap counterfeit. The true Pentecostal experience is found only within Holy Orthodoxy. Taste and see that the Lord is good.
@adisaargani836
@adisaargani836 3 года назад
@@ignatiusl.7478 you have been fooled by LIARS who presumed to have apostolic faith while many of their teachings and practices go against the clear Word of God. and only religious bigots and fools who claim that the Spirit of God can be confined in a religious system
@nnamdichrisume9384
@nnamdichrisume9384 3 года назад
@@adisaargani836 orthodoxy is not a religious system. Orthodoxy is the body of Christ. And God who was pleased to confine himself in the womb of the blessed and Holy Virgin was born a man and lived within the body, died and resurrected with the body and ascended into heaven in the body and formed the church and now the Holy Spirit is pleased to confine Himself within the particular body of the Holy orthodox church and His grace cannot be found elsewhere.
@richruggiero750
@richruggiero750 3 года назад
Mother Mary spoke in tongues!
@abanobshehata1481
@abanobshehata1481 2 года назад
Where on earth did you get that?
@richruggiero750
@richruggiero750 2 года назад
Just read from acts chapter 1 verse 14 to the end of chapter 1 then go to chapter 2 and read the first 5 verses
@abanobshehata1481
@abanobshehata1481 2 года назад
@@richruggiero750 acts 2 verse 6: When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken." This was speaking in tounges meant speakinh in different languages that they had not learned. This type of tounge all Christians can agree truly occured. It's the random gibberish protestants scream in their churches that we have a debate over
@richruggiero750
@richruggiero750 2 года назад
So like I said Mother Mary spoke in tongues.
@abanobshehata1481
@abanobshehata1481 2 года назад
@@richruggiero750 but not the tounges this video is discussing
@rigas333
@rigas333 2 года назад
Speaking in tongues is not speaking in an Angelic language. When the apostles received the Spirit and started speaking in tongues they spoke in the various languages of the people who were present there and the people understood what the apostles were saying. Speaking in tongues means actually speaking in foreign languages, Saint Porphirios and Saint Paisios had that gift. For example, when a German man visited Saint Paisios, he would speak to him in his native German language and the Saint would reply in Greek but the German man would hear it as German or if he was French as French. What the pentecostals are doing is demonic.
@iamchristian5735
@iamchristian5735 2 года назад
You are absolutely right Rigas that’s exactly my point thank you.. You have great wisdom God bless you keep it up I am orthodox Ethiopian Christian Love to all orthodox faith believes and all Christianity in the world and all nations ✝️✝️✝️✝️❤️🙏💕
@theodoremarinis5583
@theodoremarinis5583 2 года назад
Exactly Rigas. The Greek word glossa means the tongue but it is also the word for language. So glossolalia in the historic context was the Holy Spirit descending on the Holy Apostles and allowing them to speak in languages they had no prior knowledge of. This glossolalia, the ability of them to speak in different languages allowed them to preach the Gospel to all nations, as instructed by Christ. This glossolalia can not be removed from this historic context. It is the allowance of the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, so that the faith may be preached to all nations. No, the Orthodox do not believe in random babble as Protestant “Pentecostal” sects refer to glossa, as fiery tongues of made up gibberish. Such a practice has never existed in the Orthodox Church, nor will it ever.
@ibrahimemmanuel4780
@ibrahimemmanuel4780 2 года назад
So you're suggesting that God can not give the Gift of Tongues to the Pentecostals
@petervorias8621
@petervorias8621 Год назад
@@ibrahimemmanuel4780 . NO. Because scripture states it was given to the Apostles to spread the Gospel throughout the world.
@petervorias8621
@petervorias8621 Год назад
100 % CORRECT
@pinamartins213
@pinamartins213 Год назад
Jesus
@pinamartins213
@pinamartins213 Год назад
to those Christians who don't want the gift of Tongues don't edify themselves
@rykellim
@rykellim 4 года назад
Hi, did you say, near the end of the video, that the Orthodox Church believes in speaking in tongues and yet does NOT speak in tongues?
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
Yep, that’s what he said. This video creates more confusion than light.
@gordygourlas879
@gordygourlas879 3 года назад
@@ignatiusl.7478 not really They prefer you to only believe and not practice. The reason behind this is because we are weak and not wise enough to understand what spirit we allow to enter us to speak in tongs, snd since we are this and can’t recognize if it’s the Holy Spirit or just a lost soul spirit is were a person can become possessed with a different spirit as suppose to the Holy So for this reason to prevent such things they say don’t do it
@work7844
@work7844 2 года назад
They leave open the possibility, but don't focus on it as the other gifts are more important. In many Pentecostal circles, it has become the defining feature of the faith, thus elevating it to a place where if you don't do it, you aren't truly 'saved.' It has brought division into the Church, which is exactly Paul's point.
@Dlee-eo5vv
@Dlee-eo5vv 4 года назад
I deny it, God won't validate errands teaching and doctrines.
@alexandrasymeon5893
@alexandrasymeon5893 10 месяцев назад
St. Paisios said speaking in tongues in today's day and age is gibberish.
@nikoseufert3187
@nikoseufert3187 2 месяца назад
Of course it is just look at the pentecostal church all heretics
@adisaargani836
@adisaargani836 3 года назад
the monastics at Athos do not experience the gift of glossolalia because they don't care about the subject and they have never studied comprehensively the nature and function of glossolalia.
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
Your right they don’t care about it because it is completely foreign to the Church’s experience. It is not the gift of tongues in the Bible. It’s a counterfeit. It has more in common with the kingdom of the cults than the kingdom of God.
@adisaargani836
@adisaargani836 3 года назад
@@ignatiusl.7478 you are ignorant of the Scriptures. book of Acts are filled with stories of FIRST century believers (not merely apostles and elders but also lay people) being filled with the Holy Spirit and speaking in foreign tongues. the Messiah Himself promised in Mark 16:17-18 that those who believe in Him will speak in other unknown tongues. even Paul himself stated that in 1 Cor 12 that glossolalia is one of the gifts operating abundantly in FIRST century congregations and that Paul himself DESIRED that the congregation may experience this gift. who are you and your arrogant monks and elders, claiming to be above the Messiah and His apostles, saying that the gifts and promises of God is not important ? you people are LIARS and religious fools, you dare to contradict the Word of the Living God ! no wonder your so-called "orthodoxy" is in a pathetic condition worldwide, splitting and division from time to time, fighting among your church leaders for power and position, weak sinful and worldly church members....
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
Your a goofball
@adisaargani836
@adisaargani836 3 года назад
@@ignatiusl.7478 you are a religious drunk
@brettcopeland9811
@brettcopeland9811 3 года назад
Adisa Argani, your first statement regarding the monastics on Mount Athos is probably true. It seems to be particularly true with respect to Father Alexis [Trader] of Mount Athos, whose book IN PEACE LET US PRAY TO THE LORD has several problems in terms of logical consistency with the Scriptures, with the Holy Fathers, and with itself. The focus of the monks is not speaking in tongues or receiving any of the charismata, but rather their objective is the primary purpose for which the gift of tongues is given...to lead a person toward the experience of the unceasing prayer of the heart and communicative connection with God within the unity of the Church. One can speak in tongues and not have love. One can speak in tongues and cause division. One can speak in tongues and not benefit from the Grace being offered in the gift. One can glory in the gift and be displeasing to the Giver. One can speak in tongues and proclaim false doctrines and the teachings of demons. One can speak in tongues, genuine tongues as the Holy Spirit gives utterance--and be puffed up with pride due to the way one responds willfully to the gift. One can speak in tongues, work miracles, prophesy, cast out devils--all through the Power and Grace of the Holy Spirit--and yet be judged by Christ to be a worker of iniquity, not carryinig out the will of the Father, and being unknown to Christ. Not all speak in tongues, but all may attain the Grace of unceasing prayer of the heart, and that should be our focus. When we are in communication with God in prayer and not limiting God by our pride, our unbelief, or the preconceptions of our impoverished spiritual experience hitherto, God can give any of the charismata to us as He sees fit. May we be made worthy to walk in such a condition of Grace, Power, humility and love together with all the saints.
@leftcoastcvmn
@leftcoastcvmn Год назад
It’s man made
@Jacquesfluore
@Jacquesfluore 3 года назад
JESUS SPOKE ARAMAIC
@minajkreys8295
@minajkreys8295 3 года назад
Yes and the new Testament was written in Greek whats youre Point
@Jacquesfluore
@Jacquesfluore 3 года назад
My point is that he is counting different languages and yet didn’t say the most important one of them. The Aramaic language
@Jayce_Alexander
@Jayce_Alexander 2 года назад
@@Jacquesfluore Don't you think discussion over which languages were or weren't mentioned or should have been mentioned is kind of moot when the point of the message is that any man made tongue falls short of the language of Heaven?
@Jacquesfluore
@Jacquesfluore 2 года назад
@@Jayce_Alexander no i think there is very important lessons forgotten because of this over all historical amnesia we suffer from.
@nikos39
@nikos39 4 года назад
Glosolalia is one of the gifts that stop to exists and that is what Orthodoxy believes. Is writte in the New Testament. No more glosolalia.
@brettcopeland9811
@brettcopeland9811 3 года назад
When Saint Paul wrote that, he said, "Tongues shall cease. Knowledge shall pass away." Has knowledge passed away? We are a faithless and perverse generation seeking after signs and, perhaps, no sign will be given to us at all...no healings, no weeping icons, no prophecies, no visions, no apparitions...nothing at all. But that doesn't mean that the gifts of God in the Kingdom of Heaven have all passed away, never to be experienced again on earth. We limit the operation of God's Grace in and through us by our faithlessness, our unbelief, and the false theologies proceeding out of our ignorance, unbelief, and impoverished experience. Lord, have mercy.
@aesop8694
@aesop8694 3 года назад
Speaking in lounges is but an other way saying the "White man speaks with forked tongues "
@David-ky4xz
@David-ky4xz Год назад
Lies tongues mean languages stop deceiving gods people
@godhascomeintomybodyasanan
@godhascomeintomybodyasanan 3 года назад
God has entered imy body, as a body. my same size. this is holy spirit baptism. God attacks me. rips my face, shoots into my mouth, gum disease. JEsus appears laughs.
@markferguson6194
@markferguson6194 4 года назад
If greek orthodoxy is a Christian faith and they believe that the bible is the inspired word of God then they must believe in seaking in tongues, 1 cor14v4, Jude20 would suggest we need this gift to build up our spirit man and faith. Paul did not see this as a minor gift he boasted that he did it more than anyone else. It is not meant to be expressed in public unless u operate in tongues and interpretation. Proclaiming Gods message is prophecy and yes it's a greater gift as it builds up the church and its powerful and if u build up your spirit man then u better express both the gifts and the fruit of the spirit, particularly Gods agape love. The bible is not supposed to be a book for the purpose of knowing theology but is supposed to be lived.
@hac7817
@hac7817 3 года назад
The bible is merely a liturgical tool belonging to the orthodox church. One tool amongst many. One ingredient in the pie, important but of little value without the rest of the Ingredients.
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
So if we really believed the Bible we would interpret it the way you do. How about we don’t and instead we hold to what the Church has always taught.
@markferguson6194
@markferguson6194 3 года назад
@@ignatiusl.7478 h Hello. With all dur respect...Reformation is not new to the church and has saved billions from hell and left the Church with a lot of blessings if people want to receive from what the Holy Spirit has restored. Its not my church, its run by the Holy Spirit and we all need to seek him, find out what he wants and do that...every drop of Jesus blood was shed to save mankind from death and its way to precious to be wasted on our own personal beliefs ( mine or yours) let his will be done on earth as it is in heaven
@ignatiusl.7478
@ignatiusl.7478 3 года назад
My belief are not merely my opinion. They are grounded in what the Orthodox Church has taught for 2000 years. Pentecostalism is a movement with a wide verity of teachings that is a little over 100 years old. I do not accept their interpretation of scripture or their experiences uncritically. You need to understand something. We confess there is only one Church like the Bible says and we are that historical Church. So everything happening in Pentecostalism is happening outside the Body of Christ. I realize none of this probably makes any sense to you and sounds crazy. That’s fine, I’m okay with that. I hope to see you in heaven. Keep seeking truth.
@markferguson6194
@markferguson6194 3 года назад
@@ignatiusl.7478 I hope you see u in heaven 2 brother...I get told hhe same thing by yhe Roman Catholics. You wil be pleased to know that I'm not a pentecostal. The truth of speaking in tongues was restored in the Welsh revival and azuzu Street revivals in the USA in 1905. Im more about the coming Kingdom of God movement, part of that is a realization that Jesus precious blood wasn't spilt to have a divided Church.All Christians everywhere agree on one point and thats the cross and thats the central point of the next move of God.
@Dudemanbro1577
@Dudemanbro1577 3 года назад
"Armenian is the language to speak with God." - Lord Byron
@minajkreys8295
@minajkreys8295 3 года назад
Then why wasnt the Holy scripture written in armenian
@Dudemanbro1577
@Dudemanbro1577 3 года назад
@@minajkreys8295 because it wasn’t a widely spoken language at the time and still isn’t. There’s only ~12 million Armenians in the world and less than 2 million in the country itself. Armenians = The people of Ararat or Urartu... Where Noah’s Ark landed. They consider themselves descendants of Hayk, which I believe is Japheth’s grandson. Armenians are an ancient people with a rich culture and history, yet are forgotten/discarded because they don’t have political/economic leverage like their hostile, neighboringTurkic countries. They recently lost more of their ancestral land [Artsakh]. A This land has many ancient Christian churches, monasteries, and relics which are being destroyed or whitewashed by Azerbaijan. In case you didn’t know, Armenia was declared the first Christian nation in 301 AD. The Armenian Apostolic Church was founded by Jesus’ apostle, Jude or Thaddeus. Armenians also suffered a genocide in the early 20th century under Ottoman rule. The Armenian Genocide commemoration day is coming up in a month. 4/24/1915 is when the Ottoman government rounded up Armenians in power, intellectuals, influencers, etc and murdered them. They then moved in to rounding up and killing 1.5 million Armenian Christians over the next few years. This genocide is still denied by the Turkish government and most Turkic people today. This genocide led to one of the largest diasporas in history. There are also many people living in modern day Turkey who are Armenian and don’t bene know it since some families hid their identities or gave away their children to Turkish families. People who have been finding out their true identity are converting from Islam to Christianity... I know this answer was long winded and a bit off topic but it’s important to share this information. Armenia is a cradle of Christianity and is under the threat of being wiped off the face of the earth.
@minajkreys8295
@minajkreys8295 3 года назад
@@Dudemanbro1577 yes But same happend to greeks under the rule of the ottoman empire the point is that jesus Doesnt love a special nation or a language
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