Does Ronin Hold Up? - Movies with Mikey

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Does Ronin (1998) hold up? The title is a rhetorical question. Welcome to the mini-show within that other show we call Movies with Mikey! Enjoy some retrospection on classic 90's films, and explore some history and details we probably haven't thought about... at least not for a long time.
John Frankenheimer, David Mamet, Robert De Neiro, along with the entire cast and crew, make an entirely practical action-spy-heist-car movie with a level of care and detail that will likely never be matched.
(Okay, maybe John Wick - #BecauseKeanu - but they still use a little CG in that series!)
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@ingwerschwensen8115 5 лет назад

Ronin's car chases had weight, and mass, they were real, and younger me was feeling like life was good, because I had been allowed to see them on the magical screen.

@zombiepete 5 лет назад

The thing that always gets me about Ronin is all the civilian casualties. It's one of the few action movies I can think of where they actually show what would happen to innocent bystanders in a Hollywood shootout.

@mapnotterritory 7 месяцев назад

And they just drop, which is far more realistic

@MalloryMovies 5 лет назад

"We are better than we think we are" is such a succinct and beautiful message. I hope to bring that same ethos to my work as a filmmaker. Thank you for making work that speaks to that message!

@filmjoy 5 лет назад

[T] Thanks, we are humbled to know it's affected you, and hope it serves you well!

@AnonymousFreakYT 5 лет назад

Somehow I have never seen Ronin. Just watching the first four minutes of this, I am now going to pause this video, and go watch Ronin. Holy crap the cast! The crew! How the hell did I miss this movie!?

@sleepyjones3339 2 года назад

Many people missed this amazing film. It was so good that it took me four days to watch it. I didn’t want it to end, so I would watch minutes and then pause.

@photoscotty 5 лет назад

I love Ronin because it's a film where the characters don't develop, instead their true selves are revealed over the course of the film.

@eclipsewrecker Год назад

Nicely put.

@EliseVeltmanvanReekum 5 лет назад

Thank you patreons for being many. We get more catawampus because of it!

@vargasprime094 5 лет назад

Shoutout to Jablinski Games, that kid's going places

@mathieuleader8601 5 лет назад

he's certainly tenacious

@ForgottenCharacter 5 лет назад

I wasn't even thinking Fight Club, but now that you've demurred, I'm starting to see the appeal. . . Great videos, by the bye. Super psyched every time I see a one

@CaesiusX 5 лет назад

*THIS* is why I love RU-vid. Creators like *YOU* are why I love RU-vid. Thank you for these videos and all the time and effort to make them so enlightening and entertaining.

@bjaarki 5 лет назад

Never clicked on a notification so fast. My dad showed me Ronin when I was a akid and we both loved cars. Blew my lil pea brain at the time and now I'm an adult I can appreciate it even more. Thanks Mikey ❤

@phaedrus4931 5 лет назад

"Everyone talks like heavily educated thesaurus machine guns." Love this sentence as much as I love movies where people do it.

@hollandscottthomas 5 лет назад

I really want a Mikey deepdive into THE ISLAND OF DR MOREAU now pleaseandthankyou

@kerrychristensen7204 5 лет назад

Ohhh~ That would be cool!!

@mightygregdoge 4 года назад

If you wouldn't mind a podcast instead, check School of Movies out. Alex and Sharon go DEEP. schoolofmovies.podbean.com/e/the-island-of-dr-moreau/

@MikeSmith916 5 лет назад

I've seen Ronin at least 20 times and now I need to go watch it again. Thanks for the great episode.

@oerthling 5 лет назад

Seen it only 3 times,but it's time again. And I don't even like car chases in general, an overused, often boring - to me - part of too many films. This is one of the exceptions where the chase scenes were impressive enough to be a good part of the movie.

@mbbartleson 5 лет назад

Mike Smith I own this on VHS. Really the only format worthy of this film

@cameltrophy3 5 лет назад

@@mbbartleson VEEEEEEHAAAAYYYYCHESSSS? Wutsat?

@tgriff317 5 лет назад

This channel deserves so much more views and credit. It has quickly become one of my all time favorite channels and I eagerly await each new episode. Thank you Mikey, you are simply amazing.

@Ball1501 5 лет назад

Thanks, Mikey. You've given me a deeper view into a movie I've loved since the first time I watched it. Simply love your videos, man.

@davelee6002 5 лет назад

one of my all time favorites. rich with symbolism, beautiful cinematography!

@captare Год назад

I developed a love for movies made in the late 90's and early 00's. The environment, the clothes, the technology. It brings me a feeling of nostalgia. I was born in 1990. I watched Ronin as a kid, right when it hit movie stores. I remember that the last scene impressed me a lot. With Rober De Niro's character leaving on one side and Jean Reno on the other, after saying goodbye. The thought "They never saw each other again", came to mind, as if it had been spoken in the movie. It impacted me because there were 2 guys who got very close to each other, as much as their way of life would allow, and they would never see each other again. This movie is good because the characters are good. You believe they know what they're doing, without being forced. This is shown naturally throughout the film. They are not invincible, sometimes one of them escapes death, because there are so many people involved, that some get in the way of others. I keep watching this movie from time to time. Calms me down and entertains me. I've been saving it on my PC, along with other movies that have the same effect on me.

@MichaelBerthelsen 5 лет назад

I once caught this as a kid late at night on TV, fell asleep before it was over, and it took me YEARS (as in, almost a decade) to figure out what the movie was. Loved it ever since!😊❤

@willrunels5148 5 лет назад

I just want to say I have watched so many of your videos....in such a short period of time that i have adopted both the tone and meter of how you speak. Thanksss

@zachgaskins3731 5 лет назад

If you visit Paris it's incredibly easy to find Le Zenith as well as the monstrous flight of stairs outside the cafe, which is in Montmartre.

@tsakibubis 5 лет назад

Loved this movie in my teen years, and you just made me want to watch it again! I haven't met too many people who know of this film, and it's a real shame since it's a gem. The car chase scenes are simply fantastic (and the rest is great too). Thanks for another quality video and the interesting in depth info - i've subscribed not long ago and have been immensely enjoying all the content ever since. May i suggest making a video on "Children Of Men"? I finally watched it a couple of days ago and it blew my mind!

@FearEngin3 5 лет назад

I was just thinking yesterday I needed more Mikey in my life, and he delivered!

@FL3TcH_A_SkETcH 5 лет назад

There is a great documantary on the making of The Island of Dr Moreau that Frankenheimer took over from 2014 : Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau. I caught it on Netflix a few years ago. Stanley wrote and directed a great little movie called Hardware from 1990. Cheers, Mikey! You da best!

@johnnychopsocky 5 лет назад

That documentary is fantastic. So much madness for one single production.

@woodrowjang 5 лет назад

i wasn't expecting tears during this episode but then you came and hit me with that last line.

@Rhaenday 5 лет назад

So, do we get Leon as a follow-up through a Jean Reno tie-in?

@nathanparis3573 5 лет назад

Please!

@evilspoons 5 лет назад

Yeah, and none of the silly "The Professional" business. "Léon: The Professional" or bust.

@andresasturias772 5 лет назад

Yes! Leon please.

@YagiChanDan 4 года назад

Was totally thinking of Leon watching this. Awesome film.

@nicholascross3557 5 лет назад

Do Leon, if for no other reason than it's Natalie Portman's best performance, well, I think so. Plus it has the "EVERYONE!!!" people are still using to this day.

@2345allthebest 2 года назад

really nice to see the appreciation for this work as late as 2019.... I just watched it for the umpteenth time last night, New Years' Eve 2021 (first time in 3 or 4 years) , and yup... it still holds up

@carpemkarzi 5 лет назад

Sweet vid as always. Love ya man

@justsemantics2278 5 лет назад

An ever humbling presence in the field. An always refreshing messenger of bittersweet pleasantries. I shudder to imagine a future in which your brand of unapologetic charity of hope and introspection is left behind as novel. Thanks for the work, Mikey.

@bakuwinthro8926 5 лет назад

"Happy Seven Month Anniversary" was a reference to the Deep Dive on Speed 2: Cruise Control. the snacks in that you guys made looked great. Anyways love the new series Mikey keep it up dude!

@christopherlane5238 2 года назад

Out of respect to you, your talent, and the patrons, I will watch all the credits to all the videos you produce. The least I can do as a thank you for the most entertaining channel on youtube. Also, its entertaining to watch the credits with you lol Thank you for all the time and work you put into these!

@whatchmemovies 5 лет назад

90s british films? shallow grave, lock stock and two smoking barrels, trainspotting, snatch (and i know snatch is 2002)

@TheEloheim 5 лет назад

Snatch is 2000 actually. I happen to know that cause I watched it for like the first time in like 15 years last night.

@Wearywastrel 5 лет назад

Trainspotting was a real wake-up call.

@OsirisMalkovich 5 лет назад

I was 8 minutes into this video before I realized _Ronin_ and _Heat_ aren't the same movie.

@markzambelli 5 лет назад

@@blacquejacquesshellacque6053 A fiiiiine improvement... sort of... of 'L.A. Takedown'... (Mr Mann, your 'The Keep' is amazing!)

@ericamestuzzi2945 5 лет назад

Wicked. Still remember the first viewing! Love your approach and would so appreciate you taking some time to explore "The Fisher King." Another flick oft mentioned but seldom explored. Keep going Mr. Mikey. ,

@taxibullheat 5 лет назад

BRilliant. I remember my dad watching this when I was younger. Maybe now I can truly appreciate it.

@jordanbaruch3629 5 лет назад

Haven't seen Ronin, but I did in part learn screenwriting from my professor JD Zeik. I didn't know that his contribution to Ronin was mostly in story and not script, but I guess I'm not surprised since he hasn't landed much work since the 90s, and that's also because he's been busy teaching and raising a family. But he's still writing! He showed my class a few pages of a script he was writing at the time to teach us about craft (this was back in early 2017 I think) so he hasn't given up!! Anyway this video has convinced me to give Ronin a shot, so good job!

@dwc1964 4 года назад

I love how you conveyed the parallel themes to the Sergio Leone / Clint Eastwood Man With No Name spaghetti westerns by simply playing the Ennio Morricone score and not saying a word about it.

@marshallboice4629 5 лет назад

Another home run. Thanks Mikey! Quick mention, there is a cool reference to Alan Watts and Alfred Korzybski spoken by Deniro before he went to scope out the hotel.

@tonzillaye 5 лет назад

This aspect ratio makes my phone happy. I love you mikey

@LithmusEarth 3 года назад

I read film credits, been doing it since I was a kid, but I've always been the outlier, and I could never read every single one, there are just too many. I have too many commas and not enough semi colons. I'm glad you told me what your channel was about in this episode, I never knew that I've been watching your stuff out of order for a while now.

@TheSionThomas 5 лет назад

I remember watching Ronin when it came out. What stuck with me was, not the car chases, which I’ve come to admire in more recent viewing, but how much of a let down Sean Bean’s character was - I ambushed you with coffee. This is only because I’m from the same town as Bean. In when you see Sheffield on the screen you want a representation you can be proud of. It’s not all Full Monty. But did you know the narrative device used is called a MacGuffin (suitcase). Great video and great film, and next time I watch it it will have a sad swan song vibe about it

@livingbeing1113 3 года назад

The good old days, Ronin, school, and the PS1 with Metal Gear Solid or Resident Evil 2. Jean Reno and De Niro still in their prime. Certainly holds up, one of my favorite movies, a masterpiece. And you just can't beat the classic 90s atmosphere.

@jordanrodriguez7502 5 лет назад

Its such a good movie!!!! especially when compared to the lack of quality car chase movies before(Bullit is perfect) and after(Drive...but its more style...)

@yanicyoda4762 4 года назад

there was no quality real life like car chase movies after it either

@fardeenhaider7978 5 лет назад

Everytime I watch a new MWM, I remember that youre one of the best RU-vidrs on the platform.

@rudrabanerji9594 5 лет назад

Thank you for this. Frankenheimer was absolutely one of my heroes and Ronin deserved this kind of angle. Long overdue. just lovely.

@martinminkov143 5 лет назад

Your comments about the credits reminded me of some credits-related humor in the lyrics of Super Cool - a song from the Lego Movie 2 soundtrack.

@BlueLionNotOfPercy 5 лет назад

I now have to dig out my old DVD copy of this.

@backlandlands5793 5 лет назад

Everyday I open the subscription page for youtube to see what's new. I literally haven't seen any of your videos listed since "Let's talk about Thanos" 5 months ago. I've missed 11 videos. Come on RU-vid! Am I going to have to check each individual channel I subscribe to for new videos? Side note , your intro music has really grown on me. First time hearing it I didn't like it but the more I hear the more joy it brings.

@comieodor 5 лет назад

Love the new aspect ratio!

@gregmize01 2 года назад

Stellar cast !!!!

@OsirisMalkovich 5 лет назад

Dat aspect ratio tho! You're spoiling us Mikey.

@CaptainFirefred 3 года назад

Back in my teenage years this movie was a go to for Shadowrunnners - well planned and executed run. Add some Orcs and Fireballs and we have a Shadowrun Franchise to go for.

@peterstewart7332 5 лет назад

I adore Ronin, but didn't think this was your best work, both from an entertainment and an explanation standpoint. The references to random things I usually so adore seem instead to simply break up your narrative and case every time you start to build it, and the video never seems to build up the momentum that so many of your 'Movies with Mikey' videos do. Hope you're well. Still excited to see what you do next!

@EggBastion 5 лет назад

6:44 - Ayyy. Thanks! Also, SASboy? Nice.

@ididthisonpulpous6526 5 лет назад

I honestly believe there is extra magic in the reading of the Patreon credits... I don't often read them, but I do listen...

@producerdave4252 5 лет назад

Ronin is my all time favorite driving movie. Great video!

@patrickfoster9906 5 лет назад

A great movie. And terrific commentary to match it.

@Shadowman4710 5 лет назад

"...he read Shogun when he was uh, 15." Yeah, didn't we all?

@Plaguuuu 5 лет назад

Watched it again yesterday and now this pops up in my sub box :D

@JefferyBlue 5 лет назад

Press F to pay respects to Fight Club. HA! got'em.

@Dorian_sapiens 5 лет назад

Was looking for this comment.

@lord6617 5 лет назад

@sol20006 5 лет назад

BEAUTIFUL edit at 12:27

@TheMalleges 5 лет назад

So u make an episode about Fight Club! ? Nice!

@arklytte 5 лет назад

DO FIGHT CLUB!!! :D Also, thank you for this. Deniro is one of those people that you just associate with some of the best movies ever made, and the ones in the 90's are some of my favorite: Ronin, Heat, GoodFellas, Casino, even silly ones like Analyze This (and Analyze That, which wasn't *as* good, but still good). Pretty much anything on his entire filmography is worth repeated watching (well, ok, not Dirty Grandpa...that was a dumpster fire, but even the best actors have a couple of those). I would love to see you do a commentary on something like GoodFellas or Casino...classics of the Gangster genre, and not so far back as something like the GodFather movies, which are brilliant, but they're too old school for most modern moviegoers to appreciate).

@mumdangerous 5 лет назад

I just bought this on Blu-ray for $3 and watched it. I gotta say, I forgot the car chase is half way through and feels like they moved from one movie to another one. But regardless it was still dope. Great vid!

@jj112499 5 лет назад

Thinking about 90s classics, Trainspotting? That movie is great and still holds up, but is still represents the era of the 90s so well.

@Navywalrus09 5 лет назад

@9:30 Yes Mikey. That is, most definitely, my bag.

@racewiththefalcons1 3 года назад

Ronin, The Manchurian Candidate, Seconds, Birdman of Alcatraz, Grand Prix, Black Sunday, The Iceman Cometh, Seven Days in May, The Train - John Frankenheimer is better than we think he is. And if you think the driving and stunts in this movie are good, watch Grand Prix from 1966 in which actors like James Garner are driving their cars batshit crazy fast _for real_ and was shot with every single 65mm camera in existence at the time. THAT is filmmaking.

@clussylove 5 лет назад

I thought this was a show to show your appreciation for movies. Even if the movie is widely seen as a bad film. You made me cry tears of joy with the force awakens video, and you cemented my love for the last jedi. Which I was already saying was my favorite Star Wars film before seeing your video. Which is how I found your channel. I was looking at videos of peoples opinions on the last jedi.

@infctdppt 5 лет назад

In the 90's I wore a steel ball chain necklace with jnco jorts, payless shoes, a looney tune kriss kross shirt and a beeper clipped on my double ring belt.

@grimrenaissance 5 лет назад

The car chases in this movie are nuts 👌

@Maniacbob 5 лет назад

Im digging the aspect ratio change. Just wanted to say that I noticed it.

@rubixqoob8601 5 лет назад

Love Ronin. One of the coolest DeNiro roles ever.

@OrKkTeKk 3 года назад

Fight club is my all time favorite film, you broke my heart dude.

@henryglennon3864 5 лет назад

What if I was going to say "fight club" in order to invite you to mine? There's not much fighting, but there are snacks.

@filmjoy 5 лет назад

[T] Oh... well we're always fans of snacks! :D

@irosencrantz882 5 лет назад

"The first rule of Snack Club is: You don't fight in Snack Club!"

@irosencrantz882 5 лет назад

"The second rule of Snack Club is... umm... no double dipping!"

@LandRunProductions 5 лет назад

Mikey----The Abyss would be fairly incredible. Easily the most disturbing drowning scene I've ever seen and the mix of insane practical sets with groundbreaking special effects were a great marriage in a movie that ultimately underperformed at the box office but most definitely found its place in Cameron's Mt. Rushmore.

@alanpapercuts3717 5 лет назад

Saw the title and shouted MIKEEEY!! MY BOY! I LOVED RONIN! NOBODY KNOWS RONIN! ...and wrote this before clicking play hi Mikey

@Sebanisu 5 лет назад

Ronan is so good. I didn't realize it was a 90s movie. I got it from blockbuster on dvd because it had Robert de Niro on the cover. But it was like mid to late 2000s when I got it. :)

@colinbooth531 5 лет назад

Thank you for pronouncing Hereford correctly sir 👏🏼

@Daremo6969 5 лет назад

I really like how you give different viewpoints of movies that I generally don't think about. I almost always watch Ronin when it comes one, and the shout out to Enemy of State makes me want to watch it again (which like Ronin, I usually do when it's on the cable channel). I really liked your take on John Wick 1 & 2, never really thought about the Greek Gods for 1 and video games for 2. I really liked 1, but was meh on 2. Great action, but the story was slightly dull because of the infinite spawn aspect of the bad guys. Will be waiting for your take on 3, which looks like mindless action, but good nonetheless. It'd be cool if you did one for Mr. Right (Sam Rockwell and Anna Kendrick) but I'm not sure if there is much hidden meaning in that movie. It's pretty silly but I always enjoy watching it. Anyway, thanks for these, they make me think of movies differently. I'm currently struggling through a re-watch of "American Gods" but there is so much there that it's difficult to grasp the full meaning, or if that any even exists. Lots of myth along with a lot of WTF.

@ryanengelstad2066 5 лет назад

One of my favorites, funny how many people I watched with said not knowing what's in the case ruined the movie for them

@filmjoy 5 лет назад

[T] Wow, don't tell them about Pulp Fiction, I guess. ;)

@zachgaskins3731 5 лет назад

If that isn't a marker for the demographic change in the film-watching audience...

@ryanengelstad2066 5 лет назад

@@filmjoy I agree, it didnt matter, this and long kiss goodnight were my movies every week for a long time

@whentherainfalls9331 5 лет назад

Hey Mikey, would love to see an episode on the 100 Foot Journey!

@ScotHarkins 5 лет назад

We read film credits. To the end. Some of the names are really cool. Where was that shot? That kind of stuff. Plus end credit scenes are becoming more common.

@tomsauce6102 5 лет назад

Can't wait to see your ep on ight Club!

@filmjoy 5 лет назад

[T] Points

@CappnRob 5 лет назад

Damn. This made me sad, drawing the parallels between it, its creator's backgrounds, its theme and title, and the future of the movie industry. Visceral realism will never be the dominant element in action movies anymore, and that's adamn shame. At least it got one hell of a swan song.

@whiteicedragon84 5 лет назад

Aaron Paquette at the very end made me laugh harder than I should have

@danielbloomquist9810 5 лет назад

If ever there were a year to revive Daria and Jane's favorite tv series "Sick Sad World", then fuckin oath, 2019 is it.

@dwc1964 4 года назад

2020 has entered the chat

@JHannah-sl2iy 5 лет назад

Mikey, please talk about Brother Bear, and if you haven’t seen it then watch it and see what you think - it is the most under-appreciated piece of animated cinematic art EVER made. Seriously it’s good, keep up the awesome work!

@megavega282 5 лет назад

I’m just very glad to see a MWM upload :v

@filmjoy 5 лет назад

[T] We're always glad to upload them. :)

@TheMightyPipe 5 лет назад

Yes!

@GRIMEYtheFATMAN 5 лет назад

Yes, he mentioned walrus in the credits! Apparently, there was also a video of the expected level of quality and entertainment preceding that...

@vincevigil8933 5 лет назад

Do fight club bro! Lol great movie...lol but also great video man

@aikighost 4 года назад

Ronin (re-watched lat night) made me discover this channel :)

@dimcabbage 5 лет назад

I enjoyed the addition of Aaron Paquette from 16:23 at the end.

@TheTahoeGinger 5 лет назад

Hit me with that ULTRA widescreen

@andrewzach1921 5 лет назад

I could have used another half hour of this review. This is an underrated movie that I enjoyed quite a bit when I saw it.

@SmokePinchesBack 5 лет назад

JD Zeiks teaches at my school as a Screenwriting professor. He teaches the upper level screenwriting courses. I've never had him personally but I hear he's very tough.

@ReligiousFanboy 5 лет назад

good job

@unsuccessfullyjari 5 лет назад

God, Mikey.. I love you! Nuff said

@madkowgawd 5 лет назад

Seriously though, love the show :)

@Redwolver111 5 лет назад

i don't care if Ronin holds up or not, "I just ambushed you with a F***ing cup of coffee" has stuck in my head since i first heard it. that is without a doubt my favorite line and scene in my personal movie watching history.