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Does The Sherman Jumbo Beat the Tiger 1 In War Thunder? 

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The Jumbo 75 and Tiger H1 are both the same BR in War Thunder, and are quite comparable, one has great armor and the other has great firepower, Here I am doing a quick comparison between the two.
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@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
This is quite an interesting comparison as both of these tanks are strong, and both will struggle to kill each other from the front unless you aim precisely. I have a discord community, you can sign up for it through my website here by singing up for my email list: www.seanfickengaming.com
@artiarora2883
@artiarora2883 Месяц назад
Tiger E is definitely better than the Tiger H1 as it doesn't have the cupola weakspot.
@guywithpotatoes8266
@guywithpotatoes8266 2 месяца назад
If you face semi-decent players, you will get obliterated in the jumbo, but if you go up against bad players the jumbo is definitely better
@awagwa
@awagwa 2 месяца назад
What if the Jumbo player is semi-decent?
@aztkshorty9138
@aztkshorty9138 2 месяца назад
Nah I run around the entire map and get 15 kills on average with a jumbo, you reload faster then most tanks and you can track, hit barrels, turret rings, cupolas or just flank them. The only thing you wont bounce at that tier is a Panther or IS2 (obviously a few others but those are the most prevalent). I specifically bought the Cobra King to farm silver lions and have a talisman on my other Jumbo. The Jumbo is especially deadly in any Urban map nearly unstoppable even, plus the stability to fire on the move against all other tanks is really funny. (I play RB, I doubt it'd be very good in arcade.)
@wallachia4797
@wallachia4797 2 месяца назад
As a French player, American mains cope a lot about the Jumbo. It's very busted and I never get under 6 kills per life in it.
@MilMI-24
@MilMI-24 2 месяца назад
If you fight against bad players, both are good
@FriedDerickqw
@FriedDerickqw Месяц назад
@@wallachia4797 i'm french too player too our ARL-44 is just one shot them
@zakkyun
@zakkyun 2 месяца назад
Something to note, the 8,8cm on the Tiger H1 have access to the other round Pzgr. with a large enough TNT that is enough to "overpressure". While might not work well extenerally but internally it is a guranteed 1 hit kill. Similar to how HE works but if it penetrates. It does lack a little bit of pen compared to the Pzgr 39. It does have a bit more velocity. The M4A3E2 Jumbo, has STAB. Which makes firing on the move much more easier and aiming to your reticle much faster if it is misaligned due to bumpy terrain. The RoF on the 75mm is pretty fast which makes this lethal in CQC/CQB. IMO, Tiger rules in distance engagement while Jumbo would tear anyone in tight urban combat.
@cactusskeet
@cactusskeet 17 дней назад
All it takes is an uptier or panther to make the jumbos gun AND armor obsolete.
@kylemartin1166
@kylemartin1166 2 месяца назад
One of my favorite weakspots in nearly the whole game is actually the turret neck of the jumbo, but because of volumetric the tiger's 88 cant hit it, but the panther's 75 can, and its really not that hard to hit at mid-close range. Aim just under the mantlet right underneath gun and the 75 will usually sneak right in. This is a good trick to know about when fighting jumbo players that are hull down or side-straffing you hidding the mg port.
@n1ght1ngal3
@n1ght1ngal3 2 месяца назад
False, the 88 is absolutely capable of hitting the turret ring, that's the easiest way to deal with the Jumbo in a Tiger. And no, there is no point in going after that weakspot in a Panther since you can lolpen Jumbo's upper front plate anyway.
@michaelvigil5321
@michaelvigil5321 16 дней назад
Why would you go for the turret ring when the mantlet is 20mm less than the panthers penetration?
@arlensmith7273
@arlensmith7273 2 месяца назад
One more thing: The entire perimeter of the jumbos front plate is a weakspot. Even though armor analysis says its like 300-400 effective, just about everything will go through, especially the russian 85
@imchromeplayer3310
@imchromeplayer3310 2 месяца назад
ngl the sherman jumbo gun isnt too bad,it has fast reload and u can just shoot tracks and barrel easily
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
It's definitely not a bad gun, just not quite as good as the 88 on the tiger.
@imchromeplayer3310
@imchromeplayer3310 2 месяца назад
@@SeanFicken yea
@ProbablyAutisticMaybe
@ProbablyAutisticMaybe 2 месяца назад
American strategy
@kupieckorzenny5093
@kupieckorzenny5093 2 месяца назад
And then what? You wait for the IS-1 to do the job? Or you rush towards tiger to get his side armor but you get annihilated by his teammates? Imagine US vs Germany + Soviets battle where 75 mm shermans fight tiger and IS xD
@harunuluadam2876
@harunuluadam2876 Месяц назад
​​@@kupieckorzenny5093you say that but the IS series tanks I find are an easier matchup for the jumbo because a 75mm shell to the cupola nukes the turret crew which is always a one shot. Whereas with the Tiger 1 I find the breach tends to protect the loader half the time and they still have two in the hull.
@S1su
@S1su 2 месяца назад
Great vid! No BS and straight into point
@mateusz92380
@mateusz92380 2 месяца назад
tiger 1 is a better tank, but jumbo has 1 advantage, its idiot-proof
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
Jumbo is definitely easy to use when spaded. (stock ammo sucks)
@Mightybunyip
@Mightybunyip 12 дней назад
IMO I prefer the jumbo (mostly due to the stab, RoF, and the .50) yet all my friends that I play with have a deep hatred for the jumbo (and by extension all Sherman’s)
@EamonOLeary
@EamonOLeary 2 месяца назад
Nice video, I’m a tiger player and my friend is a jumbo player and I’m going to share this with him.
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
I really like comparing these two, as they are both quite strong at the BR they are at.
@EamonOLeary
@EamonOLeary 2 месяца назад
@@SeanFicken one disadvantage of the tiger H1 is I feel the cupola is way easier to hit than the mg port on the jumbo (especially if it is bushed up) however the tiger E gets rid of this weak spot making an angled tiger E the true king of this BR.
@bushboi
@bushboi Месяц назад
The last while Panthers have been knocking me out whilst playing the jumbo by shooting the gun mantlet and turret ring. I don't remember this happening 2 years ago
@michaelvigil5321
@michaelvigil5321 16 дней назад
Reminder than the Panther has a cupola of 100mm meaning it is completely impossible to penetrate it frontally at close range without apcr. Not to mention and other german heavy you might encounter. Meanwhile the Tiger 1 can easily kill US 6.7 with LFP shots, MG ports, and the massive cupolas on the T28. With the unlocked APHE shell it literally overpressures after penetration, so guaranteed one shots even on light vehicles since the fuze sensitivity is also way more sensitive.
@maximilian8594
@maximilian8594 Месяц назад
Good comparison thx
@agustinquiroga9541
@agustinquiroga9541 2 месяца назад
If you experience the jumbo as France, things change a lot, many light tanks from 5.0 to 6.3 have the same penetration of 104mm, this forces you to have to study all possible weakspots in the long run and know how to fight and disable enemy tanks. Most of the times i played it on a support role or even surprising the enemies with a good flank, no one expects a jumbo flanking
@user-jh4cq2rn8b
@user-jh4cq2rn8b 2 месяца назад
If you also compared the jumbo 76 to the tiger the tiger still hold it's place the only advantage the 76 have is the quick firing firing gun after that the angled tiger still the worst tank to face at 5.7
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
The other thing the 76 jumbo has against it is that it is a 6.3 vehicle as well.
@I_have_brain_damage
@I_have_brain_damage 2 месяца назад
@@SeanFickenit used to be 5.7 I believe
@cycodragon2412
@cycodragon2412 2 месяца назад
Biggest problem with this jumbo is that its always 6.0 which makes compensating for a very short barrel a chore
@Mr.Beantown
@Mr.Beantown 2 месяца назад
you demonstrated with the 76 mm cannon that the tiger is hard to pen angled, but the jumbo only has the 75 mm, for which the apcr has less pen the aphe of the 76 mm, which is about 190
@Alex_White2010
@Alex_White2010 Месяц назад
0:17 the Sturmtiger shell 💀☠️💀☠️
@elnewbie2611
@elnewbie2611 2 месяца назад
I take the tiger any day, i have both and the Tiger is just better because of the gun can actually do something unlike the jumbo and it's non pen which happens often.
@agustinquiroga9541
@agustinquiroga9541 2 месяца назад
after playing a lot with the french jumbo i started to study the weakspots of every tank that i faced, and one good thing about the short 75mm is that it reloads pretty fast(a lot of french light tanks in 5.0-6.0 share a similar pen so you have to always look for weakspots)
@wallachia4797
@wallachia4797 2 месяца назад
American player having to aim:
@garry4187
@garry4187 2 месяца назад
I don't know if I would say the Jumbo is beginner friendlier. You stay longer in the game because of your armour but the gun really holds you back and I feel like everybody knows the hull weak spot. Just keeping to long range in your Tiger if you haven't figured out angeling yet still works very well and worked way better for me when I started playing Warthunder. The Jumbo might actually stats-wise be one of my worst tanks.
@zobrettino4532
@zobrettino4532 2 месяца назад
dont forget my this sentence there is a no bad or no good tank there is a good player or bad player thats the point. same in the planes
@crazyadam9281
@crazyadam9281 2 месяца назад
If you're in a jumbo(75) make sure to keep your front to the enemy and be careful when going around corners because the lower side armor that's behind the tracks is weak as hell.
@aztkshorty9138
@aztkshorty9138 2 месяца назад
Most people automatically try to aim for the side of the turret or the upper side armor. I also honestly can't even count the amount of times I've been shot in the ass while driving in a Jumbo and them bouncing off the back of my turret and then me spinning it around to kill them.
@Brozikel
@Brozikel 2 месяца назад
I feel like you must take into account reload speed and the Stabilizer too. with those, I feel as the Jumbo would come out on top, as it can shoot on the move and doesn't need to stop to get its armor situated or its gun working. Also German Mains are notoriously tunnel vision, and suck as teammates.
@christopherchartier3017
@christopherchartier3017 Месяц назад
Morgan Freeman Voice - “this all changes with the Sherman Jumbo 76mm”
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken Месяц назад
Now if only the jumbo 76 wasn't at 6.3 br, I honestly prefer the 75mm jumbo because of the lower BR.
@christopherchartier3017
@christopherchartier3017 Месяц назад
@@SeanFicken Yeah, fr. It shouldn’t be that high that’s abysmal. Honestly the 6-7br range for the US ground tree is an absolute compression mess. The Pershing’s are the best example
@domoneanon6129
@domoneanon6129 Месяц назад
*laughs in 6.3 BR*
@lllIIlllI
@lllIIlllI Месяц назад
In my opinion the tiger is more beginner friendly. One of the hardest things in the game to learn is armor weak spots. When you have a good gun, you don’t have to learn as much.
@kingwein89
@kingwein89 Месяц назад
Something being overlooked is the maps we play on. Far in a way they cater to CQC playstyles because most maps are urban for whatever reason. Typical range of engagement is less than 300 meters. Reaction time matters. That equates to turret rotation speed, acceleration, and rof. I firmly believe thats why german players struggle against tanks they should theoretically beat on average. Mobility in conjunction with map knowledge is the meta of war thunder. Its why i can take a puma into 6.7 battles and consistently outplay most of my german comrades
@natethenotsogreat8349
@natethenotsogreat8349 Месяц назад
In situations like these the jumbo’s stabilizer gives it a huge advantage compared to the tiger
@Terence911
@Terence911 2 месяца назад
Tiger h1: excelent heavy great in any scenario Jumbo 75: Dumb proof
@lawrencecirunay8581
@lawrencecirunay8581 2 месяца назад
I have tiger E and ive been playing germany for almost a thousand hrs and i just and then wiggle my turret after shooting at a jumbo and they will have a hard time hitting the gun and penning me
@nicke5325
@nicke5325 2 месяца назад
Jumbo should be 5.3. You'll the tigers and panthers plus other heavy hitting tanks still, and you won't be sucked up to 6.7 almost every game and be useless.
@tankdood329
@tankdood329 2 месяца назад
Yeah like wtf am I supposed to do to a king tiger in the 75 jumbo
@P3S4R
@P3S4R 2 месяца назад
@@tankdood329 Shoot the gun?
@alexmurphy6574
@alexmurphy6574 2 месяца назад
@@tankdood329 no jumbo should be 5.0 cuz you cant do anything to a jagpanther, or even 4.7 cuz you cant do anything against tiger 1 E , oh sorry you cant kill the panther frontally so yeah max 4.3 br could be good. that some BS analogy there my friend.
@name18745
@name18745 2 месяца назад
@@P3S4R gl with that at range
@guywithpotatoes8266
@guywithpotatoes8266 2 месяца назад
@@alexmurphy6574 should be 1.7 cuz what am I supposed to do against an Angeled Churchill gun carrier.
@aurorathearcticwolf4243
@aurorathearcticwolf4243 Месяц назад
Tigers when they angle 0.0000000001% are immune to even the US 76mm with how gayjin logic works these days
@voltaire1296
@voltaire1296 2 месяца назад
I’m assuming this entire discussion if for realistic because in arcade it’s a joke how much better the jumbo is
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
You are correct that this is for realistic difficulty
@haesung2148
@haesung2148 17 дней назад
As the players get better, the mobility is more important than the armor.
@God-lq8by
@God-lq8by 2 месяца назад
As a Geman I love your name😂
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
How lucky was I to have that last name lol.
@God-lq8by
@God-lq8by 2 месяца назад
@@SeanFicken Hihi.. very
@user-in2cc4mj5c
@user-in2cc4mj5c 2 месяца назад
The KwK&Pak 42 can pen jumbo front armor
@Nz-ry4lc
@Nz-ry4lc 2 месяца назад
You can angle with a jumbo and tiger💀
@CowboyCrab2
@CowboyCrab2 2 месяца назад
Is there any website to do this? I only have war thunder mobile
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
I'm not certain if there's a website for it, and from what some people say mobile is a bit different as well.
@CowboyCrab2
@CowboyCrab2 2 месяца назад
@@SeanFicken when i use this at tier 5, i start with ap shells with no explosive or high penetration and its hellish to use it
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
I didn't mention it, but that is one of the reasons the jumbo just isn't as good as the tiger.
@CowboyCrab2
@CowboyCrab2 2 месяца назад
@@SeanFicken yea and the fact that in war thunder mobile tiger h1 is in tier iv and jumbo in tier v
@Orodreth888
@Orodreth888 2 месяца назад
I prefer the Jumbo for my playstyle. I don't like how easy it is to destroy Tigers. While the Jumbo is not a KV1, you can harass the enemy a lot better imo
@cherrypoptart2001
@cherrypoptart2001 2 месяца назад
Somehow i still think its bs that the Panther D is 5.3 when these tanks are 6.0
@bassbusterx
@bassbusterx День назад
Slow turret traverse, paper thin sides and abysmal reverse speed. It's a good tank and 5.3 is a good br for it, strong but has plenty of counterplay
@fierceassassin4763
@fierceassassin4763 2 месяца назад
you also have to remember the fact that German teammates
@FriendlyNeighborhoodPrgrammer
@FriendlyNeighborhoodPrgrammer 2 месяца назад
As a USA main that got bored of the 8.3 grind, this was nice to see. I'm about to get the Tiger 1, and I don't think there is anything scarier than a USA main playing Germany.
@bassbusterx
@bassbusterx День назад
When the german player is not oblivious to surroundings
@Superawesome043
@Superawesome043 2 месяца назад
The jumbo is better but as soon as the tiger angles it’s over
@Flak_Dancer
@Flak_Dancer 2 месяца назад
APHE to the coupola bye bye tiger.
@itsjeepyo
@itsjeepyo 2 месяца назад
You can still angle it and hide all the weakspots on the Jumbo. I do not Fear Tiger H1 The only one I'm careful about is the Tiger II P
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
This is true, thing about the mg port is that due to volumetric armor it is quite difficult to hit at longer ranges.
@myreactiontothatinformatio6344
@myreactiontothatinformatio6344 2 месяца назад
everyone knows it's IS-1 (Im suffering of being uptiered by Tiger 2 and T34 heavy)
@erviplayer
@erviplayer 2 месяца назад
If you know your shots the jumbo slaps (i also have no life so i put bushes everywhere to make it look like a sherman)
@friedyzostas9998
@friedyzostas9998 2 месяца назад
Tiger is better, but Jumbo is more fun. And games are supposed to be fun. Jumbo ftw
@sghsdhdkfh
@sghsdhdkfh 2 месяца назад
So why did the Sherman jumbo did not saw battle in Korean war?
@user-qj6xs4cv6c
@user-qj6xs4cv6c 2 месяца назад
Because korean is in 1950 where t34 and super pershing
@elite_panzer2958
@elite_panzer2958 2 месяца назад
It wasn’t used in Korean war because the Pershing already took its place, the Jumbo was only made because the Pershing tanks weren’t deployed yet until late WW2. Why use a slightly heavier tank with a worse gun and worse mobility when you use a Pershing.
@infinitystormsafire2425
@infinitystormsafire2425 2 месяца назад
Because there was no point of using it in the Korean war because they already had m26 pershings and regular sherman's sent there.
@papadad1116
@papadad1116 2 месяца назад
I love the jumbo, but it falls victim to American heavy tank syndrome. That being situationally good armor, ok mobility, and a gun that’s barely competitive in a down-tier. t29 t30 and t34 being exceptions in firepower, but even they need to hull-down to survive anything at their BR range.
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
I really like the jumbo 75, excellent tank really, while the 76mm jumbo may seem like an upgrade I don't think it is because it sits at 6.3 instead of 5.7.
@noahsawesomevids422
@noahsawesomevids422 15 дней назад
I’ll take the jumbo both jumbo
@AGENTtoaster-eg4ju
@AGENTtoaster-eg4ju 13 дней назад
76 jumbo would be better to be compared to, I know it’s not the same br as the tiger but it would have been if german mains weren’t so dumb
@GainBrains
@GainBrains 2 месяца назад
Dude you should become a Austrian Citizen and run for presidency.
@Random_Man58
@Random_Man58 2 месяца назад
Its the jumbo
@long88mm
@long88mm 2 месяца назад
how can u compare a tank from 1942 with a tank from 1944???
@Gage-nt
@Gage-nt 2 месяца назад
Because it's a game and they're both at the same br for a reason.
@long88mm
@long88mm 2 месяца назад
@@Gage-nt historical brainwashing game by russians commie jews.
@long88mm
@long88mm 2 месяца назад
@@Gage-nt maybe few years people gonna think is-2, or m-51 participate in kursk , lol.
@P3S4R
@P3S4R 2 месяца назад
In most situations, you'd want to be in the jumber, sure you can't snipe but like, they can't pen you either, and in CQC you obliterate everything because of your stabiliser, Jumbo > Tiger H1 simply because of the stabiliser Anywho, IS1 and T-34-85>>>>
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
I honestly really like both tanks and you make a pretty good argument for the jumbo.
@alexmurphy6574
@alexmurphy6574 2 месяца назад
I guess its just come to different play styles, both tanks are good. a competent angled tiger 1 sniper, a rare sight indeed , but scary as f**k
@SeanFicken
@SeanFicken 2 месяца назад
I am very scared of Tiger 1's that are used by skilled Tiger Players, they will get you quickly even if you are in a jumbo sherman...
@LackofInfoOrSomething
@LackofInfoOrSomething 2 месяца назад
tiger is better in almost every way
@JS-bk7bt
@JS-bk7bt 2 месяца назад
Nah IS-1 on top.
@RDdddddd_lolXD
@RDdddddd_lolXD 2 месяца назад
That's one of the easiest kills at that BR, with T34-85 and PT76B. even in real life it's not that good, clearly overrated.
@JS-bk7bt
@JS-bk7bt 2 месяца назад
@@RDdddddd_lolXD well those are normally in your team and it's not an easy kill if you know how to use it.
@RDdddddd_lolXD
@RDdddddd_lolXD 2 месяца назад
@@JS-bk7bt I never struggled agaisnt an IS1/2 when I dont get flanked by it. these are very easy to pierce with the panther's 75 and they generally struggle to pierce back, same with angled tiger
@JS-bk7bt
@JS-bk7bt 2 месяца назад
@@RDdddddd_lolXD well the people you faced must suck because I have penned angled tigers panthers and even jumbos with the is1 and specially with the is2 I have no issues fighting a panther with the is2.
@JS-bk7bt
@JS-bk7bt 2 месяца назад
@@RDdddddd_lolXD but you can think whatever I just think the is-1/2 is better than tiger and jumbo because I prefer it all the way.
@LightskinCat
@LightskinCat 16 дней назад
A good tiger 1 player will usually beat a good jumbo player, the armor and firepower difference are so massive it's not even a competition. The tiger can angle the jumbo cant without exposing weakpoints. The only problem for german mains is that they are so stupid that it's not even worth playing the tiger.
@scadiekman
@scadiekman 2 месяца назад
IS-1
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