Dogfighting A Real Rafale Pilot Mig-29 Fulcrum Vs Mirage 2000C | DCS | ATÉ.

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@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

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@SledgeHammer43 3 года назад

Come on you are better with the Tomcat than you are with the Mig 29.

@baatarmunh 3 года назад

Hi Growling Sidewinder, can I BFM with you? if so how do I go about it? I am a real airline pilot with acrobatic experience and DCS experience.

@itaiperes9635 3 года назад

Can someone tell me how i can watch a replay from different camera angle like he doing ? when i watch a replay i can only see the exact original camera view (the F1-F10 keys do nothing) i am using DCS 2.55

@songsarkro7233 3 года назад

I have almost watch all ur videos.. from India. My town doesn't have an airbase but the sky above my town is filled with fighter planes every day..and theres a loud sound blast every day from above shaking the ground... Why?

@AFNBarbosa 3 года назад

Man, that Mirage pilot was really aggressive, now that felt like a real dogfight

@scowler7200 3 года назад

Yeah, that was scary.

@SupaMan2122 2 года назад

He’s a real pilot

@turcenoarthurjamil4364 2 года назад

dude he's a real lofe fighter pilot, maybe its their instinct to just be agressive because in real life you don't really have a 2nd chance, its life or death.

@frankbittner6947 Год назад

Schwachsinn! der Spieler der die Mig geflogen hatt, hatt keine Ahnung, wie man im Nahkampf mit einer Mig steuer! Die Mig s sind für den Nahkampf ausgelegt, u. nicht wie die US-Falter für den Fernkampf.

@Null24 Год назад

@@frankbittner6947 let's see you do it then

@vivekkaushik9508 3 года назад

That Indiana Jones reference was hilarious. It's shows GS is humble.

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

Thanks buddy I try to stay humble sometimes it’s nice to get a reminder like fighting a guy like ate.

@MateusVarandas_ 3 года назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder Funny enough, in that scene Indiana was supposed to actually fight the swordsman, but Harrison Ford wasn't feeling good at the time, so they let him just shoot lmao

@vivekkaushik9508 3 года назад

@@MateusVarandas_ lol

@TheMelbournelad 3 года назад

Mateus Varandas I love that story. I heard it was something like “Delhi belly” from the local food. Apparently it didn’t agree with him.

@jdmozee12 3 года назад

🤣

@dstavs 3 года назад

Dogfight between GS and Ate?! - clicks “like” even before watching -

@raakeshsingh7852 3 года назад

Same buddy

@burtpilon1735 3 года назад

I always do with this guy... he’s the best.

@lonniebailey4989 3 года назад

Same here. I started watching Até after seeing his engagements against Growling Sidewinder.

@ryzentie7646 3 года назад

I thought it was just me that does that..

@timsullivan4566 3 года назад

How fortunate for this channel to have such a relationship with so valuable a resource as Ate - and how lucky we all are that he is so generous in sharing his expertise. Good fight and GREAT talk. Thanks!

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

Thanks Tim glad you enjoyed man.

@CoolAnimals69 3 года назад

This is the best DCS channel on RU-vid (Change My Mind)

@SteviePonder123 3 года назад

GrIM rEaPeRS

@jeanyonsei2318 3 года назад

Grim Reapers bombing competition is fun too.

@farhaanalam8214 3 года назад

@@SteviePonder123 SuperCapTV

@rickmasseur2008 3 года назад

Comparing Grim Reapers to Growling Sidewinder is like comparing Ace Combat to DCS. Half of what the Reapers do is for shits and giggles, or just to see if something can be done - entertainment. Don't get me wrong, those guys have me laughing a lot, and their vids are decent. But IMO GS brings a whole different level to his vids.

@sebastiaomendonca1477 3 года назад

Ralfidude is pretty good too

@rickmasseur2008 3 года назад

GS, the post-interviews with Ate are getting better and better. I like how you get him engaged in conversation around current events. It's like watching baseball and having a former player commentating - it gives the viewers an inside look at what goes on behind the scenes and the mindset in place during certain scenarios. Well done, brother!

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

Thank you rick I’m glad you enjoy the videos makes it worth making just knowing people like you are out there enjoying them. Thank u as always for ur support brother. All the best.

@zcomme 3 года назад

if you like that you should go to ATE's channel, ther are lot more vids in English version too ;)

@joelangley7974 Год назад

Your Indians jones comparison was spot on 😂😂

@sanjayjaiswal1531 3 года назад

I almost spat my drink out when I saw that Indiana Jones meme Man you are humble and funny at the same time Ate is person of principle and he is helping a lot to build the interest of youth in combat aviation including me Thank you GS and ATE Stay blessed and happy always BTW congrats on 100k subs

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

Thank you brother very kind of you grateful to have subs like you in my corner.

@sanjayjaiswal1531 3 года назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder It's my pleasure dear to be with you and learn I was watching the meme again and again it's lit man :)

@adamswift3197 3 года назад

Last time I was this early Ate was still in the French Air Force

@hamiltonshangar 3 года назад

Lol

@MarshallBananar 3 года назад

He never was though, he flew the Navy Rafale!

@CaptainDangeax 3 года назад

Actually the French navy

@DrRyan82994 3 года назад

The mig 29’s hud that refreshes with your display is a pretty good advantage lol. The mirage gunsight feels like 20hz.

@HauteGameFR 3 года назад

The worst part is that the real one is way more fluid, but Razbam decided to reduce drasticly the frequence of the 2000's hud (particulary the gun snake) because of performance issues.. :/

@JorgeOrtizIII 3 года назад

I must say, I don't have the game but your content is amazing. Having an actual fighter pilot doing combat maneuvers will work wonders for growing the community here, and his input on actual incidents (like the intercept) really helps with context and the "ground truth" on that matter. Keep up the great work!

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

Thank you very much man I appreciate the support.

@Galinjins 3 года назад

How much dogfight have you made with ate? Growling Sidewinder : YES

@brunoks6951 3 года назад

5:05 Dude, I think Até baited you hard. He knew that he can hit you eventually with the guns, but when you tried the vertical, he was saving the missile for that moment. Amazing as always. "Someone please take that pointy triangle away from my six!!" - GS

@davidsapir3764 3 года назад

Man are these videos addicting, especially on a big screen. They're so visually stunning and action packed, and it's so cool the way GS explains and breaks everything down in real time. And these videos featuring ATE' are epic.

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

Glad you’re enjoying man thank u for watching

@madfury3179 3 года назад

You should make a call out for any Russian pilots that want to engage in a virtual dogfight.

@MalfosRanger 3 года назад

"I know what you're thinking. 'Did he fire six shots or only five?' Well to tell you the truth I kind of lost track myself in all this exci- No, just kidding." -Ate, round one.

@ashaide 3 года назад

I love the psych warfare Ate does on you. Head on fights with guns blazing in your face? That impacts your thinking if you're not used to such aggression. And even if you were, your brain can't help but worry and that's going to affect your performance. And that gunning you while still having a spare missile. Nice one.

@djviperx 3 года назад

Man, you can't imagine how much I'm learning and how much I'm enjoying seeing this dogfights with this 2 great legends!!! ATE is such a cool guy!

@level30boss27 3 года назад

You should do a tournament with ATÉ. In the mirage vs you in every other plane .

@HuyV 3 года назад

Would be interesting to see how quickly Ate can adapt to other planes too. As in him trtying other planes I mean

@alje311 3 года назад

It'd be hilarious if ATE even smokes GS in the A-10 haha

@lonniebailey4989 3 года назад

@@alje311 Can't hear you over the BRRRRRRRRRTTTTTT!!!

@Youeatbabies 3 года назад

But not the F22 Or the SU57 because he’d win anyway. So let’s not mind the 2 aircraft for once

@chrislinn64 3 года назад

That moment you realize...”I forgot he had one more missile, man” (chuckles).

@landonstreamsnipez2531 3 года назад

Fun fact about that Indiana Jones scene Harrison ford was feeling sick when they filmed it and originally was not going to just shoot him but he did that and the director liked it.

@Raz.C 2 года назад

re - 6:10 GS's attempt to evade Até reminded GS of the Sword vs Gun fight in Indiana Jones - Raiders movie. I think it also reminded me of a Firefly episode called The Message. Wash, the pilot of Serenity, is trying to evade some Federal Alliance Marshalls and so he takes a DANGEROUS, winding and torturous route through some mountain valleys. He expects that his pursuers will follow him through the valley and that they'll give up if it gets too dangerous for them. Instead, the pursuers don't bother following Serenity into the valley. They are still following Serenity, but they're doing it from 2,000 feet above them, outside the valleys that Serenity is insanely flying through. Anyway, 6:10 here reminded me of that scene from Firefly. At 6:10 GS is dancing around, trying to be evasive, expecting that he's making himself more difficult to hit. In reality, Até is sitting comfortably behind him, watching him do this crazy, funny stuff. Sure, the encounter here ends with a missile being sent to GS, whereas the Firefly scene ends with Serenity surrendering, but it's not the ending that's similar, it's the bit where a highly competent pilot does his best to evade pursuit, only to find that nothing he did had any effect on the pursuit and he may as well have just been flying in a straight line...

@michaelbotkin7671 3 года назад

Love seeing Ate on the channel. He always has great information and makes for great air combat. You both rock!

@alwayzurboy 2 года назад

Two years and i still come back to watch your Ate dog fights. They were some of your best videos.

@trav1971 3 года назад

Another awesome video. Having Ate give his input is priceless. Any other pros coming to this channel 🙏?

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

If I find any willing I will deff bring them on

@andrewcena 3 года назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder I know you probably get this a lot but your knowledge of ACM is pretty in-depth it seems and in line with tactics that I've heard former pilots discuss on podcasts etc. Can you point me to some good resources for beginners to learn more about ACM?

@andrewcharlton4053 3 года назад

@@andrewcena plenty of manuals from air forces out there if you look on the Internet. Most non BVR stuff is open source.

@blackandyellow87 3 года назад

Awesome having Ate` on the channel, hopefully this becomes a regular thing.

@Dulakx 3 года назад

I didnt thought that your content could still improve. This video prove me wrong. Thrilling, informative and funny.

@shadowkercaine9694 3 года назад

Love the new intro GS. I learn so much from your videos and it helps me out a lot in my dogfights etc. Keep up the good work!

@williamgorham7339 3 года назад

ATE! ATE! Keep the dogfights coming! You both seem to be one of the most interesting dogfights to watch in DCS especially when ATE does stuff that has you saying “I don’t even know what he did there” “look at that!” In the TACView. Edit: The Indiana Jones reference was priceless!

@sauron9759 11 месяцев назад

It's so cool to see how far you've grown from your videos while staying true to yourself. Genuinely wishing you nothing but success. You'll never know how much I appreciate your content, it was genuinely something I'd look forward to after coming home. Thanks for being awesome G.S.

@lonew0lfclaw859 3 года назад

Loved the new intro. Its really cool. Plus that first dogfight and its end and the apt comparison with that scene from indiana jones was gold man.. Its great watching these fox 2 dogfights between you and Ate'. Awesome stuff. Keep it up bro.

@rbnblus4 3 года назад

Holy crap that intro made me jump out of my seat. In a good way though! Overall I've enjoyed this format of videos you and ATÉ have been collaborating to make. It's a great mix of your well narrated DCS gameplay with a follow up interview/discussion about various aviation stories. It really works well. Thanks for this.

@jonpirovsky 3 года назад

I'm really impressed. I'm not used to seeing you on the ropes like that, but Ate is incredible...

@adbell3364 3 года назад

Man! I never get tired of these! And in Ate', you have a very worthy opponent.

@carltanner9065 3 года назад

I'd like to see the designers model a rafale, just so Ate can get a chance to fly one in the game. That would be scary!!!!

@duncanstevens2631 3 года назад

I love these videos with ATE!! Keep them coming!

@dylanshannon5875 3 года назад

these fights with ATÉ are amazing and very thrilling i love them so much

@verfugbarkite 3 года назад

Kudos to you taking on a pilot. He's so aggressive.

@therocinante3443 3 года назад

I learned more about dogfighting watching the fights with Até than I even knew I didn't know.

@DarkOperationman 3 года назад

That comparing with indiana jones making me laugh even harder than what already happened 🤣

@vidhansingh8670 3 года назад

You are like the best game pilot I've ever seen on youtube and I learned how to do the pugachevs cobra maneuver in some another game by watching your videos I understood the concept and try to do it and I was successful so thanks teacher lmao

@OmerMazaltarim 3 года назад

I just love those memes drooped out of nowhere in your videos, if there's one way to learn something is with humor. Awesome video, I really like seeing you dogfighting with the 29. I hope to see some more videos of WVRs but with the F-15 and the F-14, knowing those old lady's don't have any fancy high-off-boresight shooting capability or a good nose authority at low speeds.

@nofearsheenhere 3 года назад

This is the most intense visual range combat I have ever seen in DCS. Boost those pilot respirator sounds and slap on some tense music in there and you got a brilliant short film

@UkraineStar77 3 года назад

That Indiana Jones meme haha. Great vid, bud!

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

Loool thanks buddy

@konfuzon4270 3 года назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder Funny I thought about exactly the same thing moments before you mentionned that Indiana Jones scene. Awsome content quality as usual. Keep it that way!

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

@@konfuzon4270 lol thanks buddy much appreciated.

@gijoe775th6 3 года назад

Great video with ATE, hope he does a D-Brief of this video like he did with the other one. Keep up the great work guys.

@navinsawesomeanddivineacco4221 3 года назад

I love your videos with Ate, it feels amaxing to watch

@SGTJackMorgan 3 года назад

Love seeing your fights with Ate as well as getting his take on the B-52 intercept that happened recently. In the future perhaps you could get this awesome pilot into a 1v1 in a Warbird. Keep up the great work.

@akmorf6609 3 года назад

You made me laugh with the Indiana Jones scene comparison. That was funny

@craiggallagher4461 Год назад

That was so weird, at 6:02 as you’re talking about your fancy snap roll jink while he’s just sitting there watching it and then fires his Fox2 I had the thought it reminded me of the Indiana Jones scene which you then literally say the exact same thing not moments later 😂

@tepes22b 3 года назад

He's like a pit bull who won't let go of the rope. I love these videos with you two!

@Skimmer767 3 года назад

I love the dogfights with ATÉ keep up the good work!

@GorrilazWarfare 3 года назад

gonna pre-emptively like this when I see ate in the title

@man_vs_life 3 года назад

Very interesting, both the dogfighting and the discussion.

@kylestickley8096 3 года назад

I'm so glad you brought up indiana jones when you did that jink. I thought the same thing! Lol

@icecold9511 3 года назад

So much for fox-2 being over quickly. Just watched yesterday the gun battle Oh, thanks to that gun battle, I finally learned what the 18 corner speed is. Wouldn't believe how closely guarded that secret seems to be. And your tutorials were great. Helped figure out a bunch of tasks the in game tutorial didn't cover.

@ASJC27 3 года назад

Its all aspect high off bore sight fox 2 fights that end very quickly, not legacy fox 2 like in this video.

@bclarg3248 Год назад

I really enjoyed Ate's commentary on that international incident.

@cambellschunky704 3 года назад

@5:49 the first time I saw this I says to myself, 'sidewinder is all over the place and Ate just kinda shifted his nose. Then you come with the Indiana Jones ref. good stuff man.

@rumdonkey7826 3 года назад

I love this stuff with Ate! Hope you can collab with Mover on something too, then you'd have two fighter pilot guests!

@henrymann8122 3 года назад

Wow! Growler, good stuff here. Thank you

@deadshot4245 3 года назад

You deserve a lot more subs bud killing it on these videos I’m just now learning dcs properly with both the fa-18 and F-14

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

thank you man, really appreciate that.

@deadshot4245 3 года назад

For sure was in the server last night with you splashing bandits. Look forward to flying with you or one day dogfighting you as well as I get more proficient with the jets

@avramnovorra 3 года назад

I'm digging your battles against Ate dude! Looking forward to you matching up against him again soon 😁👌

@Y.M... 3 года назад

Good on you for taking things easy and having fun. The Indiana Jones comparison is hilarious. Great fights! Thanks for these videos. Thanks to Até too!

@fredericcadillac1414 3 года назад

I always love your videos with Até!

@kasperwittrup1288 3 года назад

Another reason for the whole "flex muscles" is that you fly towards the other country's airspace and record how long response times they have. The Russians does that all the time along the baltic countries, to test how long our scramble times are.

@eggrevolver 3 года назад

@@gort8203 totally agree. Even though I'm russian, I don't see any reason of that sort of maneuvers. Pretty sure (at least, I hope) the pilots are warned not to do silly things again wherever the interception takes place. I don't watch TV, hence do not know much about the official russian point of view except "it happened somewhere above the Baltic Sea", but by my opinion behaviour like this may only be justified only in case those bombers were really-really close, were silent and were going straight to the border ignoring everything.

@ayrnovem9028 3 года назад

Let's look a bit deeper into relation between Russian and NATO airforces. Here is a quick sample of what it generally looks like for Russians to work in the same airspace with NATO "partners" (Syria). "Don't shoot them with combat weapons - that's the rule both sides will stick to. Aside from that, "partners" will make your combat mission, given that they don't like what you are doing, as uncomfortable as possible by any means. There's a million ways to do that. The most typical way is jamming your communications and navigation. Jamming is the most "soft" and "polite" of these. They can cross your combat course at minimum intervals and distances, knocking you off the route with engine stream. They can dump fuel on you, they can bombard you with flares. They can lock you with all they have and simulate attacks, turning away at the last moment. Can, on your altitude, run a couple drones in your face. And as soon as the radar-warning station is on, it will keep yelling at you all the time, no avoiding that." Hence, I am at no surprise that Russians wanted that B-52 pilots to feel certain mild discomfort.

@mydlear4238 3 года назад

Ayr Novem pretty interesting, never seen that this way. Can you link the source ?

@VisibilityFoggy 3 года назад

@@ayrnovem9028 - The issue, however, is that the planes could have crashed had the B-52 pilot accelerated or moved even slightly. Then you'd have a downed B-52 but also a downed Su-27. That benefits no one and really has the risk of escalating things. Who's to say an American F-22 pilot, seeking revenge, wouldn't do the same to a Tu-95 flying near Alaska? Practicing professional intercepts is a good way to maintain readiness and stability for both sides.

@ayrnovem9028 3 года назад

@@VisibilityFoggy 1) Actually their relative speed is quite low, so a collision would not 100% result in a crash. Still pretty dangerous, of course. 2) You and Ate are right about professional intercepts. But the issue is that since USAF has chosen to play rough in Syria, Russians have no reason to stay polite over Black Sea.

@nickgrey582 3 года назад

Very interesting video. Many thanks GS and Ate. Kind regards Nick

@mitchjames9350 Год назад

The Mig29, Su29 and there variants are such beautiful planes.

@justinsublett5880 3 года назад

Love, love, love having a real fighter pilot comment on this stuff.

@stevenborgogna 3 года назад

Ate is one of your best adversaries.

@louislochner5713 3 года назад

Such great content - Thanks Até 🤘🏻🤘🏻

@CNCTEMATIC 3 года назад

Great video. Dude I cracked up when you showed the Indiana Jones cut.

@itdepends8103 3 года назад

Intro was too goood !!

@ericblankenship8299 3 года назад

X-WING yeah it was

@jc3132 3 года назад

Thank you for the great video and discussion, really appreciate the insight by a real fighter pilot.

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

glad you enjoyed JC thank you for watching

@animalmother556x45 3 года назад

....5:38 he was literally sitting back there saying “whhhhat the hell is this dude doing...fox 2”

@nyambe 3 года назад

This is so good!! You both are. ATE is great!

@markusdresden6640 3 года назад

Man i LOVE the bass from rocket hit on replays........

@maddoxhill1369 3 года назад

yooo that new intro looked dope!!

@krostouin 3 года назад

I love those turns at 7 or 9G during a minute. Good tactic :D

@jackreacher007 2 года назад

Oh man you cracked me up with that indiana jones reference!!! Thanks so much for laugh ^^

@Jag683 3 года назад

Man I love your videos, you inspired me to try and fly even though I don’t have a hotas

@minimummoimeme9774 3 года назад

lol _ i ve seen video from both sides ^^ and i love that moment when you say "i will need luck" when in the same time ATE is saying "raah he is too fast i cant reach him" ^^ morale is important for sure ^^

@anaesthesia3571 3 года назад

Loved the intro 🔥🔥🔥

@BadAtWarThunder2006 3 года назад

Cool new intro dude! Great vid I’m still stuck playing gunship 3

@frankdrebin1023 3 года назад

Thanks, Ate~. Awesome insight.

@storsenderchannel 3 года назад

Nice fight with the MigG29, it's one of few the modern era jets in DCS that needs full hands-on attention for control input(which is really rewarding when winning a dogfight). Wish you opened the little control input window to show your rudder input on the 29 at low energy states. Also with managing energy in the MiG29, be aware of the faster energy bleed when maneuvering. The front leading edge flaps only fully lower and stays fully deflected even if you ease on stick pressure. Makes for a really draggy configuration, but the unloaded acceleration makes up for that :)

@Luis-hm5rm 3 года назад

hollyyi love these videos man keep it up :D

@ambravirlebreton 3 года назад

Great to see ATÉ again!

@MattH-wg7ou 2 года назад

You and Até should do a WWII same vs same guns fight in the Mustang or Bf109, etc! Maybe it could level the (familiarity and experience) playing field some and see how much knowledge of the real fundamentals helps in a fight like that!

@MrShoryuken1 3 года назад

These videos with Até are fantastic.

@sekured9950 3 года назад

Oh damn! New intro! I love it!

@dmutant2635 3 года назад

Excellent episode. Ate' is a hoot.

@blueberrypie1296 Год назад

I was thinking about that scene from Indiana Jones like 5 seconds before you mentioned it! 🤣

@01ahmadhachem77 3 года назад

You should do more dogfights with the su-27, they are a bit rare compared to others on your channel, just a recommendation :))))))))

@chrissinclair8705 3 года назад

Thank very much for service. I was in Armour so I'm extra dumb. :-) Didn't want to walk. God bless you all.

@kingskid6705 3 года назад

The new intro is lit.

@marcoscasado8698 3 года назад

New on town! Love your vids

@gizmophoto3577 3 года назад

Regarding the danger of crossing in front, I’m reminded of the XB-70/F-104 collision back in the ‘60s. Not the same thing, but it illustrates the danger of such close maneuvers.

@555_Kochi_STi 3 года назад

6:09 That is exactly how it looked. I'm sure Ate's expression was just like Harrison Ford's.

@testboga5991 3 года назад

I bought his book, can recommend!

@jeanyonsei2318 3 года назад

"ATÉ" is a portuguese word that means "See you". Makes sense... LOL

@mindtraveller100 3 года назад

Yes.

@archosauropre-historico8708 3 года назад

I can conffirm

@burtpilon1735 3 года назад

I just recently commented on a older mig29 video where you did a slow rudder spin and got a insane fox2 kill... hoping you try it are. Now back to the video. This is gonna be good !