***** Exactly. It's like doing number 2 on the first date, a no no. Once you are established as boyfriend and girlfriend for at least a couple of months, then I'm sure he wouldn't care. On the first date however...
***** lol. I just like to compare it to that. I don't do number 2 at a random person's house, but if I've known them for a while, I'll be able to do it. lol. Weird analogy though;
Kera Ashley You should never be a sloppy eater period tho! There are several ways to eat ribs without looking like a 6 year old with BBQ sauce all over your face.
All these ladies making it seem like if a guy ate like an animal on a first date with them, they wouldn't be turned off. Tamar's right, they can each get their life!
+Natalie Oo You have to realize that at this point all of them, except Loni (maybe) were in a long term relationship. So they feel comfortable being comfortable and eating how they want. My mom has been married to my dad for like 29 years, and she pigs out in front of him. She can afford to do that because they been together for so long. However, someone like me can't do that. I'm single now, though when I date a guy, I can't pig out on the first date with them. I would also leave if they pig out with me. First dates are your best foot forward. If you don't come at your best, then I will not accept you and I have that right.
Nobody is saying eat like an animal lmao. They’re saying eat what you want and be comfortable. If you eat like an animal, you’ll eat a salad the same way. The conversation is not about HOW you eat, it’s about WHAT you eat. And me personally I’m going to eat what I want.
Tamar is the only one being real here. Let's be REAL...none of them where acting sloppy on the first date....that's like saying if he don't like me farting on the first date then he ain't the man for me...
Lol that's right.I know they sayin one thing but they're gonna do another .if you're with a guy you like on a first date,you 're goin to act cute and all that without even knowing it.comes naturally
Destiny Franco.....where would you get a box of ribs from? Tamar is right on , no matter how much a guy likes you, shows interest or whatever he DOES NOT want to do there looking at you with the greasy mouth...it's not called elegance it's called, I would say class & showing yourself as presentable...no one wants a slob on the the 1st date, 2nd or 3rd....ijs & sometimes who knows what Jeannie is thinking, who says that a person is not meant for me if he can't accept who I am on a 1st date or in the beginning of something new? would you pick your teeth in front of someone new for the 1st time with your fingernail, or pick your nose, or sick your teeth, spray your breath in front of them if it's not fresh? should I continue? there is more & if anyone answered yes to any of these questions, you are lying to yourself (lies)...& the truth ain't in you...now have a great day everyone😤
I totally get what Tamar is saying. On that first date you notice everything about that person, from the way they look, dress, act, speak, etc. Anything can turn you off about that person. As silly as it sounds, some guys do get turned off by how a girl eats. Sucking on barbecued ribs on the first date is just messy and it doesn't involve much table etiquette. It also gets in the way of having a conversation with your date. I personally can't eat ribs and talk at the same time lol. But Adrienne said it best, it all depends on the guy, and of course the setting.
Totally get it. I use to think the way the other girls think but first impressions involve a lot and so we need to work to maintain a standard. Tamar, we get you.
I don't get how Tamar's wrong. Most people's "real selves" are a bun, some sweatpants & netflix. Why don't you just go out on your date in sweats then? Tamera sits up there talking about "accept me for me" but she probably spent 3 hrs in the bathroom before that date. In an idealistic world, sure Tamera "wins". In a no front zone, We ALL try to put our best foot forward on a first date.
Then he ain't the guy for you. Tf. Simple as that. He don't want to marry you then if he can't even look at how you eat. Ain't nobody about to be putting on no front for the rest of they life. Better go find you a guy that likes/loves you for you.
Tamar sounds like she comes from an old fashioned family. I agree that on the first date you probably shouldn't be a sloppy eater (that goes for BOTH genders). Maybe don't eat something thats gonna cause a huge mess. But I sure as hell am not gonna hide my appetite! I'm not gonna be afraid to eat more than him. That just sounds stupid.
+MissSweatpants I agree that you should probably not be a sloppy eater on the first date but idk about the eating less than him thing... if I'm going on a date to eat then I'm gonna eat lol I'm not trying to stay hungry the rest of the date just because I don't want him to know I might have a big appetite.
I loved Tamar's tenacity in being determined to explain to the ladies/audience the correct etiquette for women on a first date. That's what makes a great discussions, expressing from different angles and opinions. 😃
I totally agree with Tamar. Its a first date. The argument isn't trying to prove to your man you eat, its trying to be ladylike and putting your best eating manners forward on a FIRST DATE. I don't know why the ladies and viewers are jumping to the conclusion of 'proving that you eat messy/every food'. Like why not go to church dressed in a bathrobe...you know cause God know the true you....or go to a job interview in gym cloth...you know cause they called you in so you must be getting the job...NO. its about being presentable and having manners to show a guy that hey, you can be proper and as time goes on be free to eat a whole cow in front of him.
Yeah I agree with this but one thing lots of girls do is the whole "eat less than a man" act, and I think it's so childish and insecure. It's not bad manners to eat more than a man.. And don't order a light salad only to ask if you can have some of your date's food. That just makes a girl come across as vain and inconsiderate. Just be yourself with the table manners, but the polite, considerate version. I personally think it's fine to order like a burger for instance. But be polite, don't lick ur fingers and chew with your mouth closed, etc. Ordering ribs or lobster would be just be going to far with the messiness in my opinion lol but idk I think it just depends on the girl, the guy and their relationship.
See this is why they need Tamar. Before Tamar started talking, you could see where the direction of the conversation was going. It was going to be a feel good, politically correct "he should love you for you" conversation. Even if you don't agree with Tamar, she allowed them to talk more in depth about the situation beyond just that cute stuff. Now the show has no depth or diversity because they're all so careful and politically correct instead of being REAL.
+Meggy P I agree with you it just seems like she gets extra upset when everyone doesn't agree with her. not everyone is gonna agree with u and ur word isn't bible
MsRockstar013 I like Tamar there because even if I don't agree with what she is saying, I still get to hear a different side. She adds a nice diversity even if she is a little loud.
Nope. I agree with Tamar! Sticky barbecue fingers from some ribs, or corn stuck in your teeth. Buttery crab hands.. That's not cute. We are talking FIRST DATE though & I think they're missing the point.
tamar being real. i get what tamara and jeannie are saying but most girls don't wanna eat a burger or ribs on the first date. just to feel "presentable" or whatever. same way if the guy was chowing down, in my head id be like "damn bruh"...
What the hell wrong with yall women! Look, I'm 24 years old woman, from New Orleans, we chow down out here!! Maybe them West Coast girls like that but I'm from the South, cuz guess what our men love to eat and they love to see us eat!! Order what the hell you wanna order! Shid I love Chili's ribs an yes I've ordered that on a first date! Yall must be crazy! I bet Tamar fat husband ate like a dog on their first date! lol
I think Tamar and Tamera both have points but I mainly agree with Tamera here. I get wanting to look classy and to eat proper, but the last thing I want to do is order a salad knowing damn well I want a rack of ribs.
Bebe Heart But I don't think Tamar meant a salad I think she just meant get something that you can really finish without compromising how you look (for example sauce on your face) or you won't be able to eat the way you want to (like licking your fingers)
Bebe Heart I think it's more about her thinking that certain dishes can't be eaten without being classy. You can eat ribs and crab legs while keeping it cute, so I don't get her dramatics.
Bebe Heart You don't HAVE to order a salad. Tamar even put steak as an example. Steak is filling and it's clean to eat. You can also order pasta, grilled chicken, fish, etc. You don't have to starve, but keep it cute. I know I personally don't want a guy eating sloppy.
We are talking about the FIRST Date tho. Like i prob have only meet you once and talked to you on the phone once or twice. Your basically a stranger. I'm not going to go on a FIRST date and order a rack of ribs and 4/5 drinks. This is a time to get to know a person and have great conversation. idk how you can talk to someone while they are eating a rack of ribs. You don't go on a FIRST date with someone with the intention of marrying them. NO one goes to the car dealership and buys the car right then, they comparison shop. They visit other places, come back ask more questions, try to customize etc. Its taking TIME. like you will need TIME to get to know someone before you marry them. On a first date YOU DON"T KNOW THEM & they will talk about you to their freinds both women and men. Of course it depends on the guy and the setting. I'm not saying dont be yourself, order what you like but dont DO THE MOST. crab legs and a rack of ribs are the most.
***** EXACTLY! 100% agree with you, if it's a FIRST date which I think Jeannie and Tamera were missing that. If it's FIRST date and your FIRST impression of me I'm not going to order a rack of ribs or buttery crab legs or something messy, you can't eat something like that and get to know a person, you're going to be too busy eating your food that the conversation will be lacking. So I agree with Tamar and I'll order a small steak, chicken, pasta, or fish something I can eat and have a conversation at the same time. Now if it's a second or third date then I'll order ribs, a burger, lobster or crabs because by then we've gotten to know each other, had that initial FIRST date conversation and I'm not nervous around you.
You could get ribs or something just use your fork and knife and honestly id depends on the guy some guys actually like a girl that eat like they can and worry about being pretty. If you be too pretty on the first date that can turn off some guys too
I think Tamar is putting emphasis on the FIRST DATE. First impressions are everything, and eating ribs on the first date it not romantic or cute. As you get more comfortable with the guy then eat all the ribs you want, lol!
I'm with Tamar... first dates are awkward enough, you don't need messy food making things more awkward lol. Once you spend more time with each other and relax, by all means order the spaghetti, burgers, salads and other messy foods lol
I understand Tamar though. I went on a date with this guy, we went to the movies and it was perfect and cute and all that. Then we went to dinner and he grabbed the biggest burrito I've ever seen in my entire life filled with all sorts of roce, beans, chips, meat (the burrito took two plates of space people!) and he chowed down that in like, 10 minutes. All messy, mouth full of gravy, hands all greasy with sauce... It was not cute, it was gross. First impressions are VERY important and they last a long time. I still talk with him but I can't get the image out of my mind *shivers*
Keisha Millz If hes a great guy then he can be a great friend lmao I’m sorry but if your first impression causes disgust, I can’t see why she would want to eventually kiss him when she can’t get the image of burrito out her mind
I agree with Tamar if you like someone you want them to think the best of you. I am not going to order a salad and starve, but I am not about to have rib sauce on my nails, and be all sticky while I use 40 napkins to wipe the table,my hands, and mouth.I like the table looking nice and neat when I get up and leave.
I actually agree with Tamar. The difference between finding out about what a person really eats like, is that once youre that far down the line, you most likely have developed some sort of feelings for them that enable you to simply look past the way they eat. Tamar is just saying don't do it on the first date because he does not love you yet. AND I also want to point out that if what the other hosts are saying is true, why put on make up? A nice dress? You aint lookin like dat all the time now do you, but you sure are gonna present yourself the best way possible on that first date. PS: Tamar's look is everything in this video, from that skirt to the make up to the wig, just gorgeous! :)
i agree with tamar ALL THE WAY! its the first date! you gotta act like a lady and have manners. diggin into a burger should be your netflix and chill date lol
Adrienne was HONEST! She actually kept it real. It depends on the guy your with! Some guys make you feel super comfortable to do that (go in and enjoy yourself) while others make you feel like you have to be prim and proper. My first date with my man was a buffet. I remember getting Lomein and small ribs. It was fine but I wasnt as hungry.
whinter86 It's so true. I love to eat, but on my first date with my boyfriend, I never ate . I did not want him to see my sloppy habits, except it bothered him that I did not eat.
I was told order a salad a man don't want a woman that eats a lot. I did this on dates but felt deprived and not myself. So with one guy I ordered what I wanted....steak covered with shrimp and cheese, loaded baked pptatoe and string beans. He said I like you you know what you want and by the way your appetite is I'm sure you can cook. We have been married for almost 7 years and together almost 9.
Rose M nobody trying to make it looks like that she's wrong are we watching the same video? she's the one trying to SHOVE her opinions to other people. she get so defensive when the audiences' start to clap. WTF is that?
Are you kidding me? Im with tamera. If you dont like the foods I EAT or, the WAY i eat it. Then get up and leave. Why should i suffer trying to impress a man?
I normally don't agree with Tamra but she's very right! Don't be fooled out here ladies thinking feminism is changing men's minds. Hell no! They want us dainty and delicate as before. Eat a rack of ribs and see if he calls the next day lol!
I think you can eat a rack of ribs and still be dainty and delicate....you don't have to eat it like a pig. Remove the meat off the bones with a fork and eat it. Adults should know how to eat with manners.
It's possible to eat ribs and some bbq w/o making a mess... but I still wouldn't take the chance. Meat can get stuck b/t the teeth, greasy lips... it's not my cup of tea. To each her own.
Tamar is all the way right with this one. A guy wants a well put together lady that will make him look good period. The guy is thinking if you're being sloppy on the first date(out in the public especially), imagine how you'll be later down the line. First impressions are very important and anyone who tells you different is not your friend.
100% agree with Tamar. First date has nothing to do with love. After you've gotten to know each other a little better, then you'll naturally start accepting each others flaws...or not lol.
I don’t think Tamera was pressed. I think that she felt that if she can’t fully be herself on a date and the man can’t except her for her than she doesn’t want a future with him, which I agree with. I also believe that Tamar was being a hypocrite because she stated that eating ribs and hamburgers on a first date is unacceptable or in your words a "mess," but on her first date with Vince she ate a chicken sandwich, which is the similar to a hamburger.
I'm naturally a messy eater. food just drops on me no matter how I eat. it can be a salad or a burger doesn't matter lol. On my first date with my love I realized i forgot to lotion my feet, from rushing. I last minute decided to wash my hair and was running late. me being me I brought it up as we were walking to the threatre. he asked if I had any lotion, which i did in the car. we turned back around and insat in the car gettin ready to put lotion on and he grabbed my foot, took off my sandal and massages lotion into my feet right there. 10 years later were having a baby in June. That's what happens when you're not trying to be so perfect with a man. You find the right one.
I think Tamera, Jeannie, and Adrienne are really good when it comes to hearing someone else's opinion but Tamar is like "if you don't agree with me you're wrong." lmfao
No I don't think that's what she intends because she really does listen to everyone's opinions but I think when they don't seem to understand where she's coming from, she stresses on her point a little more which can come off to some people as not listening to what others have to say
Man I always agree with Tamar. And it's funny because I didn't like her from the first episode but I swear she's saying everything I'm thinking all the time. Tamar girl, I love you. Keep being real.
LMAO TAMAR IS 100 IN THIS ONE... I don't believe Tamera she always puts a prim and proper appearance and don't believe she actually goes all out when she eating on a first date
I disagree with Tamar and i'm a GUY. The fact that most of the girls in the comments agree with her just goes to show the kind of control men have over your heads, making you think you gotta live a certain way and do things like this or that to please them. Be yourself because no man is gonna worry about "eating pretty" in front of a girl. EAT; like jeannie said, I love a girl who's not afraid to eat.
But the point wasn't to be prissy or whatever, it's the fact of manners. It's like going to a business dinner with your someone important like your boss perhaps. Your not gonna start eating like a pig in front of them.
It's common courtesy and table manners. Control?? That's not control, it goes for men too, manners are important, how are you gonna know if they can handle themselves in life that's why first impressions count, you're basically saying hey, I can conduct myself if the situation arises.
+Kashief Mc I agree with Tamar tho Im the first to usually agree with "what you see is what you get" but if you come into a 5 star restaurant and you go and buy crab legs or ribs (food that is MEANT to be messy) and you expect your partner would be okay with that?... It's like, neither time nor place. It'd be different if we went to a picnic or BBQ because then it would be more appropriate and then YESSSS, don't pass on them ribs.
100% behind Tamar first of all when you buy a car obviously if it has flat you won't buy it because it's out there but when you find a flaw three months you won't return it you will service it. So my point is he won't know how you eat ribs on a first and he won't dump you three months down the line because the source gets all over your face
The overall message that Tamera is saying is - don't put forward a false perception of yourself. This is why relationships fall apart, because people are pretending to be something they aren't instead of working on their character. Act as lady like as you want, but if that isn't who you really are, it'll show
Only real one On This one is tamar. Sloppy eating in general looks disgusting when you don't personally know some one so let a alone on the first date. When u catch feelings for each other u except more and don't see it as disgusting I guess
AND this is why Tamar is on the show. This was a great clip, nice level of tension and disagreement. Love all the different opinions. Respect them all, but I am with Tamar. The first date is time to keep it a lil more refine. Get to the chitlins later.
Tamar was right on this one. I'll have the "filet 'mig-non ' please and a glass of wine"😊. Staying cute. Wait till I eat the whole box of pizza down the line😁
I can agree with both sides on this. I think there are definitely some things you don't want to eat on a first date but there is something special about feeling comfortable enough to do so with someone so early on, and if the other person accepts that, it shows a lot about their character.
Lol, Tamar said "oh yeah that's that lil greedy girl u went out with" Ha thats true though. she always have me rolling. I'm telling Tamar is gorgeous iCandy.
I agree with Tamar to an extent, I don't want to eat anything too much like sloppy or stinky 1. Yes we are out to eat but I want to talk and get to know each other, you know how hard it is to talk and eat some good ribs, and all them napkins you need. Meat all in your teeth. No ma'am! 2. I try and watch anything with too much garlic, or onions etc. I went out with some guys who are like you better eat don't be shy lol so it's up to you.
Refusing certain dishes to eat pretty? Please. My s/o and his boys don't give a f* about that. They like girls who don't pretend to be a pretty eater. I mean, don't eat like we're still in caves or eat like you don't have hands, but a slab of ribs? That's nothing to worry about. And telling the audience not to clap when Jeannie says something, but not when Tamera says the same thing... she's so obviously petty.
I gotta agree with Tamar on this one. Unless your first date is with someone you've known for a long time, you gotta keep it neat, at least in the beginning. Manners are important guys.
YES Tamar I'm on your side with this one. For the very FIRST date.. have some manners.. And this also goes both ways. If I was on a first date with a guy and he is slamming some ribs, with sauce all on his hands/face, sucking his fingers, etc etc.. I would be disgusted! I think it's rude. Especially if you don't know the person
I actually agree with Tamar , it's the 1rst date, have fun but still be yourself, cute(good manners) and interested in the conversation. don't starve yourself but save those ribs and crab legs for an other time.
I agree with Tamar, it's a first date, first impression you have to be multidimensional as a person, know how to eat properly with a knife and fork but also be able to chow down when needed. A first date is kinda like a job interview to see if you are compatible with the other person. I wouldn't want to be with a guy who didn't have any home training and I couldn't go with to a nice restaurant with. Point blank and the period. (:
I totally agree with Tamar on this one! It's great to love and enjoy food ... but someone being greedy is a huge turn off and it's unattractive. Me and my hubby both LOVE food but nether of us are overeaters. I don't think I ever could have dated someone that was greedy or has bad table manners, because for me, it just always makes me think they don't take much pride in themselves and I'm sorry but it makes them look like a slob. Also if someone is eating too much you're never going to get to have interesting conversations or go interesting places because everything will be about food with them.
I agree with Tamar, On the first date, you guys don't really know each other so ANYTHING can set you off before you even get to know each other... They were making her seem fake and kinda ganged up on her.
With that being said, I agree with Tamar in a sense. There's a balance in being yourself and being polite. I wouldn't eat a messy meal on my first date but I'm definitely gonna be me in all other aspects. That way there are no surprises.
I understand what Tamar is saying. She's not saying front as in you're hiding who you are, she's just saying have some type of etiquette in public. Let's cut the crap, y'all know good and well everybody's guard is up on the first date. Stop pretending like you're 100% open and your entire history and life story is known on a first darn date. And y'all know darn well you're not ordering a messy slab of ribs, getting barbeque sauce on your hands, mouth and clothes. Y'all in the comments section need to quit lying LMAO.
And why can't Tamar ever voice her OPINION without making everyone else's opinion seem like their opinion is wrong. Everybody's different girl I'm like Tamar voice your opinion and keep it moving. Agree to disagree and move on. So damn extra!!
AUDI2014 She did try to keep it moving and was like "ok watever"....but she is jus a strong minded and strongly defensive person and easily offended person as well...but once u get that about her personality it's easier to accept her
Tamar is being very specific about the first date, when you are first meeting someone and she's right. Most of ya'll won't even eat a hamburger with your hands on an outing with your friends. I would definitely not order wings or ribs because I can get quite messy trying to clean them to the bone lol. I wouldn't order a burger because I hate those people that eat it with a fork and knife and I am not trying to be one of them. There are a bunch of meal options that don't involve a salad (not sure what restaurants you all go to). Third date and beyond, let's head over to crabshack hehehehe
I’m with Tamar here, first impressions are everything, I had icecream on the first date with my husband as with all of my previous first dates. I was not about to look a hot mess lol but after a year we stuff our faces together so it's okay lmbo
Tamar is so right and realistic in this segment 😭. Like if roles were reversed if the guy slobbish it up like that on the first date with me? I promise you … he won’t hear from me ever again.
I really miss Tamar she really did bring that sassy diva with attitude!🤣. She is so right here first impression is the only impression and eating slab,crabs hell any seafood is no how you look sitting there with a bib on trying to be cute enough to get a second date
