Don't be lied to about Company of Heroes 3 

Chaotic battle chatter xD I agree, tho i Kinda like hearing it during a large mess happening infront of me, hopefully they fix it soon.

can't let players play as fascist, Extra Credits said so, which is funny enough because the video has been taken down. This is why I don't play WW2 games this day and age. It has been overdone, and is being overcorrected for "modern audiences".

@@Marinealver I think these situations are completely irrelevant to each other seeing as how the Germans are playable faction in the game...twice

To be fair,the Italian tanks weren't as effective as their German Counterparts.The Italians fought hard but poor leadership and equipment hampered their effectiveness.It's part of History.Though It's okay If you want the Italians to be their own faction.

@@ahmadhadi177 Their air force sucked too right? They would be the weakest faction for sure and people would complain

​@@Marinealverhonestly at their height the fascist Italians were still a pitiful army. Reducing them to small extra units reflects the fact that they were a puppet state by the time Italy was invaded. Also "you can't play as fascist"? I suppose the literal N@zi army somehow circumvents that rule? Live in the real world for a minute, will you? Do you even know what game were are talking about here?

They already done thay back in COH1: some of the soldiers clearly speaks with Canadian accent or Welsh & Scottish accent

@@notamoonraker an accent is nice, but not nearly as cool as being able to change the ethnicity of your whole army

Yeah 100% - now that you mention it renaming the British to the Commonweath Forces or something could be a cool way to distinguish their COH3 appearance

@@notamoonraker It's not the same as having the Indians, Gurkhas or anzacs tbh - although I thought it was 2 not 1 that they were in, but it's been a while :)

@@nuttyjawa Yeah I'm glad they included the ANZACS & Indians though. Historically correct. Just wish they also add Polish doctrine/commander. All of them fought in Italian Front during WW2

Good observation, although the "refinement" is questionable. Still, even minor refinement is much better than poor redesign.

at what cost... Why there can't be any good Dawn of War RTS, beside 1...

Game is 50% score in steam lol

except, they really didn't, they learned a small bit but never really fixed the same things they completely ruined in CoH2.

@@draggy76 Still better than nothing. I am playing coh3, only coz I am hungry for a proper Dawn of war. I were playing a bit of coh1 and never coh2. DOW:Soulstorm us my favorite multiplayer game, but I am enjoying coh3, because it's new to all and you can play with tactics. There were great 3vs3, 4vs4 games, where in DOW only 1vs1 was good for me. I got game by buying ryzen.

well.. after AOE4 and COH3 i am not as hyped anymore for AOM2...

They will.

@@mdc3227 Doubt it. DoW3 was abandoned because it was shit. CoH2 was not shit, and they were still updating that a year or 2 ago.

@@Lord_of_Dread I disagree. I played CoH1 for 3000 hours. I played CoH2 for 10 hours and had no interested to keep playing.

Me too, me too....

@@michaelzomsuv3631 Well you definitely missed out.

Ah, thank you!

Gonna be honest COH1 doesn’t look any better than this game in graphics or gameplay. Also units shooting through solid objects has always been in the series so its not like its something the other games do any better

100%

Zade is a shill and a bootlicker. Get on with the program

I don't mind if the graphics only slightly changes. COH2 is already a beautiful-looking RTS and there is advantage with this: it can gain more players from COH2 fanbase since the PC requirement doesn't changed drastically.

What I think matters is its art direction though. I wish Relic still use the COH2-style painted portrait of each unit/commander.. instead of that seemingly cartooney 3D model as unit icon.

same with aoe4, 20+ years later and graphics dont do justice to the franchise, aoe3 looks better

@@SuperDomochan Could care less about graphics, both CoH 3 and AOE4 play well, and in a RTS that's all that matters to me honestly

@@SuperDomochan That's just not true lol

I am a veteran too and I enjoy it. albeit the game needs balancing (for allied infantry and mortars) and some graphical adjustments, but I wouldn't go back to playing coh1 and coh2 (manually reinforcing, stalemate tanky situations, slower game pace). As for the bugs, i only had the stuck unit stuff once, so I can't say it was buggy for me (30H until now)

Still think they should have done the Pacific theater. Expanding on the weather mechanics in 2 with Island warfare in that theater. Maybe in DLC?

Poland soldier to... In Monte casino

I'm still flabbergasted ITALY isn't a playable faction in a game set IN ITALY. That's like if the Soviets hadn't been playable in CoH2.

@@LAHFaust Or the French in a WW1 shooter........ *COUGH* BF1 *COUGH*

@@cryptthrasher2213 You can pIay as the french in BF1 in muItipIayer and the campaign

Thats what the overall game lacks for me. Theres no soul in it, its an empty shell. The graphics are just so.. bland. If you make direct comparisons with the previous 2 games this looks so much worse, because there is no art direction. Voicelines have vastly reduced humor and intensity. I could go on and on, but its not worth it. Its just a lesser game, in all departments.

I agree, but it doesn't border me, because I playing mainly online. AI is just silly spam, with cheese resource bonuses, map hack and soo on.

I never got into CoH2, but i spent a lot of hours in CoH1 with my friends. I thought it's great that they went back to the style the had going on in CoH1

Exactly Sega relic has no soul that moved to BBI blackbird interactive

The times of good storytelling in such RTS-games seem to be far away. Most studios try to get MP rolling. As I'm a COH-fanboy (singleplayer) I like COH 3 very much though storytelling is not comparable to COH 1. I've been very disappointed and angry when I watched the first preview-vids. After buying the game and despite some really brutal bugs, I'm actually having fun and I'm (as a singleplayer) very fond of the battle dynamic and the battle effects.

And yet it launched with mod/workshop support immediately soooo. Give the community a bit

I bought it...and I regret it. I loved the first 2 games...I wish I saved my money. There is nothing to admire really...I find myself just turning the game off...

i bought it and i like it. def a lot of QOL changes for pvp

dude I would've been SO DOWN for pacific theatre

The "sea battle" mentioned in the vid cooouuuld be a sign of what's to come.

I'm hoping CoH4 is the PTO with the dynamic map expanding from Burma to, like, Midway or even Hawaii.

haha, well now you know! thanks for watching :)

Same ... Im disappointed 😞

oh dude I TOTALLY forgot to mention the camera. It could do with being zoomed out another 25% or so

@@Zade_95 It's fine on some maps, but when you're playing on the mountain side you can't see the rooftops on some of the buildings half of the time. Don't get me wrong, the game Does have some improvements, a major one I don't hear enough is the cursor changing to show whether your units have to move to engage or can stay in their defensive positions, but it feels unfinished and while there is no shop yet, the battlegroup system feels tailor made for another host of micro DLC, while it feels like the only element really diversifying the factions even a little. It has the most content because every faction seems to have copy pasted 90% of their building options from the HQ to the engineers. And I'm sorry for ranting on it but I see the UI design and all I can think is: With my most barebone knowledge of menu design I can tell they must have had the intern make it, everything /feels/ like the first versions of the PNG files used to put the menu and UIs together. I miss the days of the early Age of Empires where the UI had some texture, there's a reason people got so frustrated at Warhammer 3 on the release with everything being a monotone red. And these are things that are usually the cheapest to fix if you keep your art team for longer than the first few months of development. It has the foundation to be a fun game but with how the factions are I doubt it'll ever be the best of the CoH games without a major overhaul to how the factions work and if by some miracle SEGA does not want to squeeze out some extra pennies out of what little goodwill is back. I know I've gone on a tangent, I want to be more open to these kinds of games but I also dread that the standards of what is acceptable on some elements of a game are being dropped

CoH1's mechanics were maddening. While an amazing game in its time, it's annoying to play these days.

@@dudeguybro That's why Blitz exists.

@@dudeguybro and COH 3 copied them...

@@dudeguybro No, i still enjoy CoH 1, especially Squad AI is missing in all newer CoH games. ps. please name a few mechanics in CoH 1 which were maddening?

@@DW_drums those are rather bugs than mechanics and some of them are still in CoH 2. This might be an essence engine thing.

They did.

Huh?. It's to early to tell. Lets see what happens in 6 months to a year.

Land-based campaign-wise, why not USA v Japan on mi pais The Philippines

me too man. super hopeful this is on the cards

Yeah i might do a big look back in a year or so, I've done some follow ups already if you're interested though!

Relic said it, they can't put factions with shit tanks in the game due to balance reason, so Japanese zerg rush or Italian tankette spam never ever

there was a coh1 mod japanese vs Chinese, not sure if official.

@@oc5058 it isn't and also is pretty unbalanced. Just like CoH1.

I'll keep an eye out!

It far superior to this trash 🗑️

Thanks - much appreciated!

That's just his way of reviewing, he has this style for pretty much every review

big second, he didnt even say one thing on the stuff left out in this game that was present in previous ones.

imagine actually liking a game

@@Zade_95 I'm a big fan of the channel; just this video in particular just comes across as "off", idk;

agreed

I wouldn't want CA's help after their own past fumbles.

AOE4 had a rough start. But is easily one of the best rts ever made.

oh man. if thats true thats a BIG l

I actually thought about going this route but I thought it might be too old of a reference!

I felt that way about the 2nd game so didnt buy this one . Just get men of war assault squad and mod it

would love a pacific theater COH 100%

That was relics initial plan, then the community asked for more of the same, then complained it was more of the same when it released🤷‍♂️

yeah i forgot to mention it rip, not the end of the world but would be nice

The problem rts has already pretty much died but we aren't seeing people chill out with their reviews. I think this hyper critical attitude is a problem for the wider strategy genre. Look at the steam reviews of any city builder and you'll see "at some point you build everything you can and there isn't much point playing afterwards" , which is particular unfair since it is a problem inherent in the genre. People hate on crusader kings 3 even though it contains almost enough content to be considered a side grade to ck 2 just because it didn't have all the features implemented in a game that was continually updated for 6 years. Civ 6 is still called dumbed down because of its art style even though at launch it was a more complicated game than civ 5.

@@camerontorrance1992 I wholeheartedly agree with you. I guess some of us rts/strategy/sim building fans are just too spoiled.

@Ryan Vetter haha no thats not what I was trying to address when i wrote that comment but more towards people who were to hypercritical of it. the other commenter sums it up. also you do you. we should vote with our wallets. Im saying to those that bought the game and expect that they were gonna be major changes when previously the major consensus is that no need for any improvements of gameplay. Just an upgraded(or downgrade depends on who you ask) in the existing way of play. In the end relic mistake was it wanted to satisfy both coh1 and coh2 fans but failed to do both. But I do respect they changing up a bit how the campaign played. I thought they wouldnt want to innovate anymore after dow3 debacle.

kaboom

Thanks, appreciate it! Yeah I don't quite get it either. Might make an extra video on it tbh :P

it always is :P

All the telent left when Sega bought it the are now at BBI blackbird interactive making homeworld 3

Yes but WHTW 3 has more depth via those factions, skill-trees, hero unlocks, unit compositions that actually change the meta, quests, fun stuff to do outside the main narrative, the battles are more engaging, you have magic, interesting over-map stuff like portals, diplomacy etc. The loop is the same, but the complexity and depth is on another level. There's a LOT of variety in each play-through if you choose it.

Grand Strategy is never repetitive. Thats why Total War and Paradox games have so much replay value. Unlike a regular campaign a Total War campaign is a Sandbox. Every time is different

Looking It like that even Doom Eternal is repetitive. You do some platforming, look for some collectibles and shoot demons, rinse and repeat.

I agree to an extent, 'Total War' style campaigns are inherently repititive due to how they're made, but I think in games like Warhammer 2 it take s a lot longer to get to that point thanks to how many goddam mechanics are in that game, whereas here it's stripped back quite a bit

couldn't agree more, me too

yeah i was surprised to read them. might do a follow up video discussing it

hard disagree here - you should put them side by side

@@Zade_95 Dude, coh1 is from 2006 and coh2 is from 2013. its been 10 YEARS! Where are the graphical changes. Can't believe that you dont see it. Did you ever play coh2 or coh1? Explosions were massiv.

@Zade sorry man, but you sound really biased. Just watched you're video again and to say "the game looks and sounds EXCELLENT" and people don't think so are high is just a damn lie and extremely biased. Very dissapointing.

Yup they are better in 1 &2

I haven't played multiplayer yet so I'm not sure but they do pop up in one mission in the campaign. "Canadian Shock Infantry" voice over and all that included.

yep, that's why i said it :)

yeah 6 million dollars

totally fair!

Well to be fair everyone should know by know that Zade isn't a competitive multiplayer focused person.

@@ryanvetter5852 well I guess that's how you see it. I rather see it that his review focused on the aspects he knows. Besides, most people who play rts don't even touch competitive multiplayer.

Ranked is coming soon after balance, surrender ability? you can quit individually if you want

The game doesn't look that bad, but it's really not a good looking game when you compare it to already release game

Thank you mate!

People like Hollywood bombastic bulshit.

Agreed! SEGA never made an RTS under its wings.. but Microsoft has tons of it