Doug Demuro is Wrong about the Lexus RC F 

Doug is wrong about a lot of things. He and Steve Hammas seem to have a dislike for Toyota Motor Corp.

I drive an RcF and it’s the best car I have ever owned. It’s way to cool for Doug!!!

Doug Demuro and Jeremy Clarkson have done a ton of bad publicity to this car. They gave to the enthousiast community a somewhat unappropriate view that became glued to them, even if a lot of this is simply subjective judgment. This has, still now, catastrophic effects on the used price value of those cars. But, in the other side, it is allowing the RCF to have a shadow existence of its own ; away from the streetracer and jocks community. Making this car a hidden gem for car enthousiasts.

I love Lexus v8 I don’t care what people think is the most reliable fun to drive and not worrying for break down...

BMW is overpriced and overrated as a luxury brand. I'd definitely save on a RCF, especially on service and repair costs. A Lexus are for owning, a BMW for leasing.

Doug is wrong about a lot of things

Sometimes Doug simply just talks a lot of shit 😂 Honestly... if I needed to buy a car in a pinch and the only car available at lot X was a BMW. I would leave. Either that or it must come with 100 year 10, million mile warranty, a roof rack and a bicycle on the top with all season tires.

I have an RC F so am admittedly biased. That said I agree with you about many of your observations on Doug's review. The biggest thing I agree with about your comments is that the mission of this car is luxury and performance. It's not the best of either but it is a good combination of both. People that worry about the weight make me laugh unless they are truly going to the track as a primary use. If anyone is THAT worried about weight then they shouldn't be buying a luxury car with electric windows and seats, power steering, AC, carpet, rear seats, cruise control, infotainment, radio, etc. for track use anyway. In real world driving, the RC F is essentially too powerful and plenty comfortable and the shifts are startlingly fast and strong, not lazy at all. I like BMWs but they are everywhere, I wanted something I didn't see every day. This car is rare to see. Some love some hate, I get it, it's a polarizing car but I love it.

Doug is very biased . I don't support his channel. That car is amazing, BMW's unreliable money pits.

The car is an icon that will be the last NA V8 and I like bmw but don’t hate on a car company with its first sports car because bmw has had 30 years to improve there sports cars

Doug is not a Lexus fan that sums it up ,,,, or Toyota period ,, look at which one depreciates faster a bmw or Lexus

Doug is annoying as hell. Thank you for your take on the RCF :)

Sadly I've never driven the RC F, but I've admired it from afar and would seriously consider getting it over any of the German brands...despite my general preference and affinity for German marques. Doug's preferences and bias aside, I agree that he missed the point of the Lexus in his review. The RC F is not intended to be tracked; it is much more suited for grand touring duty than the BMW is. On a long road trip, that M4 would beat you up, while the Lexus would deliver you to your destination comfortably. I feel the RC F to M4 comparison is akin to the Aston Martin to Ferrari comparison. The two brands stand for different things. Yes, Aston has its track-focused hardcore vehicles, but for the most part it produces grand tourers that are comfortable with a touch of sportiness. Why can't the RC F do the same?

If you want a honest and good review on the RCF . Watch savagegeese review on it

I feel like Doug only scratches the surface of what a car is

Doug, the type of guy who eats cereal with a fork

Doug is just rolling through car reviews to make videos for the money, don’t feel like he genuinely care for the cars.

Watched that video couple of months ago, I completely agree with you with all the comments you made. That video was made just to make Lexus look bad..I unsubscribed him after that video

Just got my RCF 2 months ago, love it. I agree with the stock exhaust it's conservative but I have a Borla exhaust on it and my god i love it! the shifts sound so good! Have a friend with an RCF and has a GT haus exhaust and its loud AF.

Years ago I was a BMW fan. Yet I test drove a BMW and was disappointed so that I went down the street and test drove a Lexus. Now I am a Lexus fan and don't know how I would go back.

Amen to your comments on balance! I like having a car that I can go have fun with, but 99% of the time I’m just tooling around town or commuting. Most people can’t afford a stable full of single-purpose cars. I want a car that’s comfortable to drive, reliable, luxurious, has some cache, and occasionally can tear up the corners. The RC F seems like a great balance of every day comfort and power.

Hahahaha I remember when doug did the review of the LFA, he only give to it 65/100. Guy dont know shit about japanese craftmanship

How could he compare a Lexus to a Cadillac, Lincoln ,or Acura. How ist he doesn't know what a luxury car is .

The rcf is way more appealing than the m4. I’m keeping mines

Of course you're right. Doug doesn't know anything about a Lexus. They do hold their values way better. But like you said, those other "premium luxury" brands are pushing it and overdoing it.

If Lexus is that bad why do it sell more than bmw???

I agree with all your points. BMW won at the performance category on paper, but the RCF more then makes up by being reliable comfortable and more affordable

This is me with every Doug video that comes across my recommended tab. I dont know if he plays dumb intentionally but it pisses me off.

yes you are correct, i saw his review about the RC-F yesterday. I would pick lexus over any of the germans any day, you can still drive that RC-F after 20 years and enjoy it. but you would probably look at the old photos of your German cars after 5 years and maybe if you are lucky you would drive them with the christmas tree looking gauge cluster with 3 quarts of extra motor oil in the trunk.

The one dislike is demuro 😂😂

My wife said to me, “Babe, they just updated the new Supra, you know you’ve been waiting for it forever what do you think?” Me: “No thanks, It’s a BMW, I’d rather have a Lexus RC-F”.

Lexus is a philosophy, Doug is just a BMW or Range Rover Fan which are not reliable than Lexus, so .....

Recently bought a 2017 RC F, thought I did my research but there is one thing that i somehow missed in reviews and discussion forums...the lack of a spare tire...I understand the staggered tires being the reason for no spare...but I personally have very bad luck with nails and screws so I'm currently looking for a solution...I bought a refurbished OE wheel and am getting some rubber put on it...but now I'm wondering if that was a good idea as per the owner's manual the jack points seem very hard to access/use...now i havent actually tried, I've been working crazy hours at work since buying the car...but it at least seems like the jack points are "hard to hit"...actually might not have bought the car if I knew all this...not gonna lie I have major buyer's remorse because of this...hopefully when i get a day off I can see just how hard it is to access the jack points and change a spare while on the side of the road...

Thoughts on the M340i? Is this a balanced vehicle? Confort vs performance.

Hey, great video. Random question, have you ever driven an LFA?

Thank you for this review, Doug was a Lexus hater. Ive owned BMW's, a Porsche, G37s, 350z, and other great cars. The Rc F is the highest of quality, tied with BMW for fit and finish, Faster than my Porsche, but the number one thing that you touched on that should be over emphasized is..... RELIABILTY. That is a major characteristic about the Lexus that hands down makes is a better car to own. A faster car that is in the shop here and there with $3000 repairs to get it back on the road, is not a car anybody wants. i sold my 6 series because my friends were dumping 2 grand here, 2 grand there on repairs on their 6 series. Anyway, thank you for blasting his review just like he blasted that fart!

Agreed, I was debating on a m3 awhile back and after doing my research I went all in for a isf and loved it. I would still do the same, rcf over m4 any day.

Has anyone done heads and cams for the 5.0?

The part about the farting had me cracking up, I remember hearing it when I watched his stupid video months ago. I agree with everything you said, one observation though with the launch control, it is now standard on ALL 2020 RC F's, not just the track edition

Doug is loyal to the Germans. I think we all have figured that out. I wouldn't pay him any attention honestly. Lincoln has surpassed Cadillac in every aspect. Look at Lincolns lineup and look at the Cadillac lineup... I rest my case haha!

Doug Demuro has the credibility of a kid, and that's why I blocked him long ago.

I 100% agree with the weight and stability. I had an ISF fully bolted on with intake headers and exhaust and at 130 i always felt uneasy. I have the RCF now also Fbo and feel much more safe going over 150. I love Duog and every car reviewer hating on the RCF because it gave me a hell of a deal on mine because no one wants it, until they drive it of course. Also keeps our car rare

Doug doesn't like Lexus. Most of his videos on Lexus he give a bad review. He loves German cars. I unsubscribed from his channel.

2015. Almost 3-year ownership. Aside from maintenance and recalls, the only problem I have had was a dead battery. Which is partly my fault, the battery sits a lot.

The M4 was going for 2019 $700 no money down.

BLESS YOU FOR THIS VIDEO🙏🙏🙏

Kirk you said you would own an acura for luxury and daily driving. Would you own a Lexus for the same two things and which lexus model would it be?

Lexus IS a great car. Full stop 🛑

I’m dreaming for an LC 500, driving an NX at the moment and it’s VERY comfortable😊 had it for 5 years now and not a single break...

OK, I just test-drove a 2016 RC F in a very similar spec to the one he had, just 3 weeks ago, so it's pretty fresh in my mind. Regarding the steering being light... While it's not the lightest steering, I also wouldn't say it's heavy. And, in Sport+, the response from the steering is very quick compared to my IS 300 I have at home. I also just drove a Camaro SS this past weekend (rental car), and found its steering to be notably heavier than the RC F's steering, so take that for whatever it's worth. I'm not saying Doug's right, because he's not. The RX is probably the last thing I think of comparing the RC F's steering with. However, it's not overly heavy either. I sorta agree on the transmission being lazy... but only at low revs. If you really stomp on the gas, the shifts are quicker, no doubt. In more sedate driving, it's not worth using the paddles, but the transmission is very smooth and Lexus-like. I personally like the dual personality of the transmission. Regarding the part about it being half-hearted... here's the other thing driving that Camaro made me realize. That Camaro is faster than an RC F. No doubt about it. However, it's just not nearly as quiet or refined on the inside - the ride seemed a bit firm, and its exhaust was pretty loud - both a good thing and a bad thing depending on the timing! I started to wonder if I would want to drive something like that every day. I didn't have that conundrum with the RC F - it felt every bit as comfortable as my IS 300 F Sport, in spite of it being obviously more capable. That versatility is what you are paying for with the RC F. You get a car that handles extremely well but is still something you could use to take your significant other on a weekend trip in comfort. (And I mean, the RC F is still fast, especially if you rev it all the way out.) Unfortunately, I was only testing out the RC F to test the waters, since my lease has about 6 months left, still, so I am pretty sure someone already bought the Infrared one I drove. But I loved it. Hopefully there will still be some around in a few months.

Your completely right. The RCF is a better all around package then the M4 by far. More tech and more luxury comfort AND performance with reliability

i love my rcf lol

I had a BMW E90 & traded it in for the new 2018 Camry XSE. My BMW kept that engine light on almost every month. Barely 80k miles. My dads 97 Toyota Corolla has 167k miles with no issues. My moms 09 Camry has 80k miles no issues. My gf’s 07 Camry has 200k miles no issues...should I keep going? My little sisters 08 Camry has 170k miles no issues. My Camry currently has 33k miles so it’s too soon I think for issues. All I’m trying to say is that I thought I’d give a BMW the benefit of the doubt but it let me down. I kept it till 130k miles but lost a lot of money trying to keep it on its last leg, definitely was not worth it.

I just subscribed to you. I noticed Doug has more than 3 million subs, but why? Maybe he has been here longer. Keep up the good videos.

Nail on the Head, Kurk DeKreifo! (Kidding) Even though for my own reasons I still watch a lot of Doug’s videos but like I’ve pointed out in the other one, I can disagree with him and yes just because he says something doesn’t mean he’s right. It’s like any other RU-vidr I watch. With every vehicle, it’s placed in a class, and in that class it’s placed in a spot where there are cars that are worse and better than the one you are targeting. In this case the RCF. I’m OK with other cars being better than it, but I also love that this car is better than so many others. It has an absurd amount of horsepower and with easy aftermarket upgrades like superchargers, exhaust, etc. to get even more. They are VERY reliable, and has the ability for every day drive. Anybody that I know with BMWs (have or had), mainly has had a lot of issues after the warranty or have experienced horrid resale value. Many others I know that have them say do not handle AT ALL in any condition other than bone dry ground. Once the BMW gets in rain of any kind there’s no grip at all and you’re holding on for dear life. While the RCF isn’t a saint in rain or sleet or snow, you’re going to feel a lot better and at ease when you see and hear the amount of complaints I’ve seen and heard with BMWs in weather conditions. Like you said, the power, the style, the features, and the reliability is very important to me. I don’t want an uncomfortable dedicated track car. Many of these specific dedicated track handling cars when you had a slight bump in the road it’s bone shattering. No thank you! Both of these cars have their areas that they are perfected in. And that’s what makes them both unique and OK for the purchaser for whatever they’re trying to accomplish. I’d NEVER buy a BMW unless I had unlimited money. Horrible resale and terrible money pits. Not because Scotty Kilmer said so... because that’s what I’ve known my whole life.

I purchased an RC as a second vehicle and it's my first Lexus. I feel like the car has soul when I drive it. The complements and gawking from others is pretty crazy considering it's a 2016. BMW's look nice but tend to be more understated and bland. Not saying the M series isn't a blast to drive but I wouldn't want it as my daily.

All great points ! The Lexus RC-F provides the driver the best of both worlds, speed, sound, comfort, looks and quality. He did an excellent job explaining the difference. Some car reviewers don’t have a clue about what some cars are all about, and why they build them as they do. I happen to own a 2015 Lexus RC-F and love it !

I work at a carwash and the new bmws with the ugly ass knobs make it so hard for customers to put their car into neutral lol.

I do really appreciate this video. Because you describe my exact feelings about the car. I think it has been misunderstood in many ways. I could also imagine that a political judgements are going on. Auto motor und sport, a german legendary automotive journalism company revied the rc-f and also the track edition. Being germans, you could expect they would roast the lexus. Wrong, the recognized what this car is standing for and gave it a good and quality judgment. So don't let your self intrigue by some self made self opinion videos and go drive it and test it yourself. I hope to drive this rcf one day because i lovr the looks, the sound, the interior and the idea and courage daring to be diffrent! Thumbs up from me

RCF is for daily driving. In most situations, putting down the full torque will me very hard to drive and can be dangerous. I personally like the balance because I can use it as a daily driver and when I want to have some fun I can go to spot or sport plus and each setting is distinctively different and each has their use cases.

Love doug’s content, but it seems he has a hatred towards jdm brands especially lexus and toyota

Bro, I could give you a great handshake for this video. You speak for the general public unlike Doug who speaks for himself. These comparisons have ALWAYS been crazy to me. I dont get why anyone would want a harsh, stiff sports ride over a comfortable, smooth performance car? What the heck? How many people track race on a daily basis? Who the heck are these so-called ' car enthusiasts ' and how many of them are there? If the target market is race drivers then these comparisons will make sense to me. Who in the states is going to use 450 horsepower to the max on highways that have speed limits without negative consequences( speeding tickets, accidents etc). How many people race to work? So what if a German car is faster than my Lexus. What does it matter? All the public need and want is a car that is quick enough and can handle decently ,with reliability as a factor as well. That Doug score rating is hilarious but I just watch him because he does review a lot of cool cars. LEXUS by the way built their reputation on quality ,reliability and comfort. It makes sense why they would blend performance in WITH those other aspects These reviews are always so stupid to me. SMH! Thanks for the objective video. .

You said it so right. I like Doug's videos to show us some new cars or cars we could never said... But then again... If you watch the videos and realize the statements are his take and opinions.. Nothing else

You're right about Doug Demuro driving the RCF in Normal mode, which is why he said the steering was too light. When you put it in Sport + mode, the steering gets a lot stiffer. I bet most RCF owners don't drive it in normal mode.

Performance Or Performance + luxury. No brainier. Nice upload 😎🇬🇧❤️

The misconception is that people compare this with the m4. But actually it was a Mustang competitor.

Doug said the wing wasnt big enough for the price of the car. Which I agree with. Like does it make that much of a difference? It's like an inch lift. U could slap a lil ducktail on there and it would probably save weight and get the same amount of performance

Well, according to that blond on Girl on Swiss Roads that I watched just before you, this Lexus is a very good daily driver. In the cabin , it sounds very throaty like a racing car when she got on it. I would say it has a bit of personality. I would buy one.

You're so right they're great, Doug got this so wrong its an uber reliable GT with great performance and reliabilty; who by contrast is going run any of the BMWs with their hot v turbos past warranty (or even within it).

I think he was off base (Doug). His video almost made me not want a Lexus RCF. I keep looking around and feel the M series BMW is a track focused coupe. The Mercedes doesn’t excite me when sitting in it. Although it’s sound is just 😘 *perfect. This Lexus IS different in styling. It’s luxurious as ever. The power and weight is so that it’s more comfortable to drive over longer periods in my opinion. I haven’t tested an RCF but if it’s what I think it is, I’d buy it first.

LOVE my 2020 RCF! I never even consider an m4 because to me it's not even comparable. Plus I want to keep the car 10 years. With a BMW, not so much, and if I do, I can't imagine what it would cost to maintain...

I still watch Doug's videos. Who else makes car reviews on "quirky" cars? I just take everything he says with a Grain of salt.

How can anyone dislike Toyota, Japanese is superior engineering... Anyone that's previously owned a BMW, knows how bad the quality of the car is. I have an Rc350 F sport, getting an RCF soon. Takes an acquired taste to love Lexus.

My friend. You have turned me into a subscriber.

I remembered when Doug said he thinks the styling of the car is really amazing, yet when he was giving his Doug score he gave it 6 out of 10 in styling.

That is why I unsubscribed from him.

I have purchased 10 brand new Lexus cars since 1997. Every single one has been perfect. Quality in a vehicle is just as exciting to me as any other attribute.

Great review Kirk

He is WRONG about many other cars too. I unsubscribed Doug’s channel long time ago, now I’m subscribing to yours.

I like Doug’s videos but I gotta agree with you 100%! I felt the exact same way!!

Perfect points. a lot of people don’t get the experience of lexus’s cars. if you want fast get an electric car.

He is wrong with the points you have highlighted and I am 36 and would love to own a RC-F since it was debuted! However his LC500 review seems more honest about the Lexus brand, has he changed his perception?

One thing he did right: possibly affected the price and the car gets cheaper and easier to buy

I’ve always wondered about a possible bias towards Toyota/Lexus with Doug. I’m just not sure what the opinion is lol. From watching all his videos, we know his parents drove/drive Toyota’s and Lexuses so does he have a distaste because it’s what he grew up with or currently is used to, or maybe does he actually like it because of the same reasons but also because of that, he’s more hard on it than other brands. Who knows lol. Honestly, he’s downright disparaged the RC-F, The LX, The Corolla, the 4Runner (I think), and probably others, and right in the video titles too(!) but has been GLOWING with reviews of multiple LS models, the LC, and the practical cars like Highlander & RAV4, and older Previa, and not to mention his love for Japanese only cars like the Crown and Century, so yeah. It’s a guess at best haha!

I think the problem with the RC is just doesn't have the history that the Mustang, Camaro or Challenger have and looks wise it just doesn't have that wow factor like it's big brother the LC, Lexus would've been better off building scaled down versions of the LC, if possible. That being said I might have to buy the next gen RC.

Excellent take. U can have it all…so accept it and be happy AF

Bro, people have hated Lexus with a passion since they dared to challenge the luxury market in the 90s You're totally correct about zero to 60 because back when I had a sportscar I did a 0 to 60 run maybe two times because I thought that was just too much of a tax on the engine IMO And I took my car to the track exactly 0 times because I thought that was also too much of a tax on the engine Some of these reviewers assume that we are going to be doing 10/10 on our cars but honestly I mostly took my sportscar out to the mountains for a reasonably fun drive and that's where I think the Lexus is the most fun

Kirk > Doug

Hey kirt..toyota lexus is the real sound gets from d engines.not fake like german autos.were the sound is play in a speaker in the car to sound good..

I think the only bad thing about the RC F is the speed honestly, its a very very slow car for what it is, but hey if it means I'm getting luxury and power that's better than avg I'm happy! I just Love the way Lexus looks on the interior compared to every other company and it's a big deal-breaker, only other one I would love to be in would prob just be a Mercedes but they kinda everywhere.

I agree with everything you have said 100%

Owned a 2006 BMW 325 Ci for 16 years. Purchased a Lexus 2018 i300 F/S & noticed immediately how much “ easier” / comfortable the Lexus IS!

Kirk thank you !! You are way opened minded than Doug .He does not understand what most vehicles where built for .

Doug was also wrong about the LC200 also. Have a look at the Video

Lexus knows exactly who they are and what their customers expect, and that is this: cars that never push the edge of performance or the most cutting edge electronic gadgets. What they do is comfort and luxury with more performance than most owners will ever need, and do it in a quality way thats more substance than surface bling and bragging rights to you office bros.

These guys are just upset that the Lexus 5.0 in the F models is literally a bulletproof, reliable 300k mile track and daily driver monster with little, little maintenance through out its whole lifetime. The tranny is old, but it works. It can hold reliably 1000 hp. No issues. Don’t fix it if it ain’t broke. Still shifts fast as hell in manual at red line. It revs high. I think it’s the greatest induction sound ever in any production car and even modded that’s na. Lexus interior is one of the best quality pieces out there in the automotive industry. You can daily drive this 365 in every season and weather condition, go to the track everyday, throw down competitive times and still be able to go home and go to work the next day and get your groceries after and repeat. For 100s of thousands of miles. People need to quit comparing these cars to others. Nothing can compare to Lexus F models. There’s nothing out there like them hands down. They aren’t the best cars in the world at all but that’s not the point. The point is everything I said above.

To me, if your going to spend the money on an RC F, move up and get the LC500 w/ performance package.

Doug needs to do another review of the RC f

I have an RCF and love it.

I thought Launch Control became standard equipment on all 2020 RC F, just not the Track Edition? I refuse to ever watch one of Demuro's videos ever again due to his whiney, idiotic, unprofessional, RC F hit job review.