Down the pub with Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey 

good discussion - the internal market in the NHS is awful - much of the time you see buildings and staff wearing NHS badges and its just a logo with a private firm behind it

Pity Mick Lynch isnt PM.

The only reason the conservatives are going so far to the right is because every institution has decided to go left when they should be behaving politically impartial.

@@fedyno4reviews hmmm….. nah, I don’t think so.

@@fedyno4reviews give me 3 examples and I will consider changing my mind.

They would never try to run for office. Why give up a cushy union pay packet and almost zero scrutiny for a job that pays less and non-stop scrutiny.

@@0w784gThey earn every penny of their salary. Nothing cushie about battling to provide all workers with a decent wage and working conditions. There is plenty OK Jack's. Nothing worse when good people do nothing. I would like to think there is enough good people that do something. Sadly workers have to take on this battle and win.

@@lindacurrie8817 Hear! Hear! Well said!

@@lindacurrie8817 Lynch in top 1% of earners. More than the PM. More than the leader of the opposition. Sitting down in a pub on a thursday afternoon drinking and chatting with people who agree with him and half-heartedly spectulating on the revolution is graft? Not much better than the beret-wearing French academic plotting La Republiques union with the Soviets. I wonder if his next brilliant act of solidarity will see him campaign that his members are as well off as he is? Unless you think union leader is more worthy of high pay than cleaner or factory worker? How very Tory.

@@0w784g What are you on about you nut bag? He's not on any where near at much as the corrupt Boris. Even if here were, which he's not.. I would far rather a good man fighting for the majority of working people on a lot of money, than a corrupt scum bag of a man who works against almost everyone in this country everyday, on less.

In fairness msm won't have 1hr to talk to Mick.

@@everready800 fairness... lol!

Well they were interrupting and talking over each other (but in a cordial way)

@@everready800 ….MSM don’t want to talk to Eddie and Mick!

@@pex3 Its called conversation, regards.

that mate

And....... Did they say he supports Millwall!? It's a winner 🦁

Where I from, would have been a minute.

@@terryfinnie2146 Calm down big man. Its not a competition.

@@PH5221 That's called humour 👍🍺🍺🍺

I wonder will this union make it a policy that white people are fired before POC.

Each working class hero such as Mick and Eddie learned their craft and absorbed knowledge the hard way, through working, sweating and suffering hardship. No politician since Attlee (worked as a social worker in the slums) has first hand know,edge of real work, although l believe Angela (deputy leader) worked as a care worker. Not Johnson, Mogg, Truss, Sunak et all. Get them all out digging holes, etc., no, not for that reason!

@@elaineedgar2913 Very well said, I think there's a real solid foundation to that theory (no pun intended) and we BADLY need men and women like this in politics.

Yeah that's cos there's Irish people talking the English spend oh best part of 600 years trying to kill every Irish they come across and when they stop the voice is still there reason that dreadful voice talking circles of sense in its own language back at it. and England has no sword or gun England is trapped down a well oubliette now they're stuck forever we're coming out of the walls we have come to overwhelm the red dragon overcomers white yet again surely anybody with an eye to history knows all of this happens go Bragh. To the English their history is a ripple of conquest turn the Celtic Vision it is simply an asteroid hitting the Earth it's time to clean up the mess and carry on with history that is why a couple of Irishman can so easily disarm the entire British government as the kids would say built differently.

@@elaineedgar2913 To be fair, Truss and Kwarteng are definitely digging some deep holes now.

I've ordered a RMT hoodie and I'm not even in their union! Lol

Comment of the day

@@xxxxOS If there were ever a union to bring together every union I'd want them to be the ones to make it, I agree that when crap hits the fan we need to stand together

Totally agree there.

Exactly, that's like perfect description lol

Thanks for nothing, this bald twat has cost my business thousands and thousands of pounds in lost revenue. And there will be more to come.

@@bobstar6837 your lucky you have thousands and thousands of pounds the people they represent need to be payed a decent wage I hope you are paying your employees decent wages and that they are not having to go to food banks for help or take tax credits to top up their wages

@@bobstar6837 You've still got lurpack in your dish though?

@@bobstar6837 Blame the thieving Government!

@@bobstar6837 reading that your company has lost thousands and thousands of pounds has made my week.

Sadly if he were to run, the full force of the media would crack down on him and demonise him, just like they did with Corbyn. Until people wake up to the realisation that their "consent is being manufactured" by the corporate media, it is hard to make real changes in our society.

I'd happily vote him in over Keir Starmer.

@@aries6776 Totally agree and the fact Sir Keir Starmer is even the leader of the Labour Party, is incontrovertible proof that our political system is controlled by large corporations, as the man (and many in the party) have zero labour values.

They're not doing that because they'll get absorbed, and overthrown by the corrupt system. C*rbyn broadly had the same message (Lynch endorsed him, after all) but mainstream parties function as proxies for corporations and foreign powers, and simply won't allow radical reformist programs to flourish. They've learned they need to build a consensus with workers outside of the rotten system, then pressure the parties from outside of it. UKIP was never going to win an election, but they produced enough pressure to move the Tories further right, and towards a harmful version of Brexit, designed to allow tax avoiders to escape the closing of EU tax loopholes. This is strategically similar, but for real people, real prosperity, not the pretense of representing ordinary people.

@@karlwilliams2703 Did you have a point?

wonderful - but they are correct....

A problem for the establishment? Is that why they’re constantly interviewed by the establishment? And is that now why the liberal establishment are now trying to take down Dempsey because he supported leaving the EU?

Has to be said (as great as Mick and Eddie are) there are still thousands of other trade unionists who are just as exceptional and committed to improving conditions of British workers. Sarah Woolley for example is a fantastic General Secretary of the Bakers Union. You just don’t see them in the media as much since their unions are either not on strike or are but getting a fraction of the media coverage that the RMT has had.

Total solidarity with you. Most people support the action you're taking; keep it up!

I was going to but the same thing. Will be on the picket line and will show everyone this comment because of how ture it is. Sandwell and Dudley NWR

I just want my train to turn up so i can travel, so get on and do the job you signed up for

@@roaming.spectre. prick, there is people in the graveyard who give me my term's and conditions, health and safety, I'm not going to give them up with out a fight.

“Out of the blue”? They’ve both been around years. They both supported leaving the EU, too.

@@deepzepp4176 The good fortune they have as union reps is they don't have to be right about everything. They can be wrong about some stuff, and they're wrong about that, then. Doesn't mean they're wrong about what they were talking about here.

@@fang_xianfu Woah. Genius alert.

It'll never happen the left has to much of a problem with straight white males.

Time for a general strike. If that doesn't work, time to riot. The people at the top (bosses, shareholders, politicians) need a reminder about who holds the power - the working class. They also need a reminder that peaceful protest is the alternative we worked out a long time ago to breaking down the doors of bosses and beating the shit out of them in front of their family, and/or getting the guillotine out.

Exactly how I feel. We're finally starting to represent ourselves, and telling our paternalistic middle class keepers we don't need them or their misguided opinions about us.

Clocking off time?

Absolutely, they're a breath of fresh air.

That would require a revolution. But you're right, they should.

they already are.....

New party ‘New Labour’ and put these guys on top.

@@PastaSauce. A new ILP...an Independent Labour Party. How many Labour members would 'change platforms'?

@@uttaradit2 No they aren't

Yes but you've got these guys who are great and then you've got the nutty woke Labour Party. Gawd, what's the solution? Answers please? I'm begging you.

@@mistermerlin8917 What is "woke" about Labour? Do you even know what "woke" means? Because I do. So enlighten me.

They are absolute clowns they want the strikes to go ahead🤦‍♂️🤡🤡😡

@@FCBayernGaming21 They don't want the strikes to go on, they want a settlement that doesn't shaft their union members in favour of profits for rich shareholders.

@@FCBayernGaming21 Did you even watch the video?

@@owenoastler101 yes

@@FCBayernGaming21 Must’ve hurt

Thats because you have. 🫂

What Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey are doing isn't that remarkable; they're providing clear and articulate explanations. It's an indictment of our media and politicians that a couple of union leaders actually answering questions has become groundbreaking.

Stalinists

@@flannelsykes0 You are a neoliberal. Which is the western economic philosophy, neoliberals are literally robbing the working and middle classes blind and funnelling our tax money into the pockets of nationless global corporations and bankers. Nothing is more pathetic than a neoliberal who isn't a billionaire. Are you a billionaire?

@@xxxxOS So go move to a socialist utopia and stop pushing this dinosaur ideology on everyone else. I'm as working class as you can get and I've seen enough bullshit leftist agenda to last me a Soviet Union lifespan. Unions are as capitalist as the capitalists they so despise.

We needed them

thanks to tony blair youll never see them in the labor party

Yeah get labour in see how long it takes to bankrupt Britain

@@jeremywestern7067 lmao britain is already bankrupt with or without labour

Yes but what are we going to do with that hope? Just chat and carry on with our lives? We need to join as a community (a dirty word according to the not missed Thatcher) to bring this government down. It doesn’t matter that the opposition is useless.

However the Union leadership advised it's members to vote for brexit, they argued brexit would give job security, better pay and working conditions, that it was better the for the British government to make its own decisions!! So we can assume that a large proportion of the workforce voted for Boris and stabbed Corbyn in the back. The same argument applies to the sacked P&O workers. The soon forgotten sacked P&O workers. Why didn't the unions call a national strike back then?

@@DrMontague It is the one issue I would love to question them about,Corbyn made a speech prior to the referendum ,saying he believed that staying in the EU was the right thing to do ,but it needed progressive reform .That speech never got much of an airing,the lies and misinformation did, so I assume they were duped like many others in this country and once the majority accepted the flawed referendum result, there was precious little anyone could do to stop the appalling mistake.

@@janehale4402 Corbyn argued for a second referendum because there were so much misinformation by the brexiteers . i argued with nugget head working class that capitalism was the real problem not the EU. I argued with them that they should vote for Corbyn because socialism was what we needed, that Corbyn would come down on the capitalist scum like a ton of bricks. The arse holes including many of my friends mocked and jeered at me, I told them if they voted Boris they were making a rod for their own back. They have.. Now when the arse holes whinge I mock them. I tell them you voted the scum in , you take the fcukin consequences. What have they got now Tory Starmer. I am enjoying watching them squirm. My god I hope they have sense frozen into them this winter.

@@DrMontague you keep posting this copy paste under every comment, tory bot.

@@DrMontague leaving the EU has given you the possibility of nationalizing the railway, which is illegal in the EU, The European Union is just a way to push neo liberal politics onto it’s members

However the Union leadership advised it's members to vote for brexit, they argued brexit would give job security, better pay and working conditions, that it was better the for the British government to make its own decisions!! So we can assume that a large proportion of the workforce voted for Boris and stabbed Corbyn in the back. The same argument applies to the sacked P&O workers. The soon forgotten sacked P&O workers. Why didn't the unions call a national strike back then?

@@DrMontague they had valid reasoning to do so. Tony Benn, perhaps the most prominent and inspiring leftist in british political history, opposed EU membership because of the ease that businesses and employers can outsource to other employees who take temp contracts because of the strength of the pound (at the time) and the chokehold that unions have had placed on them since thatcherites put them in one. The points they list on the website are pretty much what was promised by vote leave and if you look at their position objectively then you can see that they do have increased leverage post-brexit due to the lack of outsourcing to migrant workers. I personally don't and didn't support brexit but I can see their reasoning and beliefs behind supporting leave.

@@lukemullan636 Their reasoning was flawed from the outset. capitalism demands the exploitation of human labour to make profit. Whether it's a migrant from over seas of an Englishman (who could be your own brother) agrees to work more hours for less money then you, then you still have the same scenario i.e. capitalists want cheap labour to make profit and not just make profit but to increase profit. Working class fucktard cannot see this, they simply want to hate, kill, watch the foreigner drowned in the channel. Now imagine you are working on the trains and you are doing reasonably well. Your brother is unemployed and scrimping and scraping each week to make ends meet. He that fcked off with his life he decides he will work for 50p an hour less than you, from his perspective it's better than dole money. The employer is quite happy with this as he sees that he will increase his profit. You are enraged because your brother is putting you out of work, you want to kill your own brother., want to drown the bastard in the channel. From your perspective your scumbag brother is the problem. The capitalist has you two hating each other. He laughing his cock off. Conclusion When we were in the EU we were in a capitalist EU. We are no longer in the EU but we still live under the yoke of capitalism. So when the fcktard leadership of the RMT were advising their member to leave the EU they were simply cutting the cloth at one end and sowing it on the other , believing this was the solution to job security, better living standards, better working conditions etc. I argued for socialism, I voted for Corbyn who wanted to come down on the capitalists like a ton of bricks. The RMT leader ship were pro brexit,.pro Boris. They had the chance of electing a good socialist PM and fukin blew it. The P&O workers I can infer were pr brexit, pro Boris. They found out the hard way that Bojo is pro the capitalist exploiters and that bojo only gave them crocodile tears when P&O bosses sacked the lot of the cunts. the story could have been very different if they had elected Corbyn. so let us cut the shit of how wonderfully intelligent union leaders are.

@@DrMontague watch the last two minutes of the video, it explains very clearly why a general strike cannot be called.

@@alexarosa632 Watched they are full of shit. This is what I have commented to them. From what i have read the RMT advised their members to vote brexit, arguing it would give them job security, better pay, better working conditions, pensions etc. Well this has turned out to be a sick joke! I can assume therefore that many of your members voted for Bojo GET BREXIT DONE! and stabbed Corbyn in the back! Nurses and care workers cannot strike for ethical reasons i,e, people would die, operations cancelled. I very much doubt that the RMT and other unions will strike in support of nurses and care workers. At the end of the day your union members are only concerned about themselves. If you won't strike to support nurses and care workers then stop bull shitting you are for the workers. Break capitalist laws. Nurses and Care workers have to pay high energy prices too.

However the Union leadership advised it's members to vote for brexit, they argued brexit would give job security, better pay and working conditions, that it was better the for the British government to make its own decisions!! So we can assume that a large proportion of the workforce voted for Boris and stabbed Corbyn in the back. The same argument applies to the sacked P&O workers. The soon forgotten sacked P&O workers. Why didn't the unions call a national strike back then?

That's why they gave thatcher a state funeral. Class is everything in Britain, but they made it a taboo word.

@@DrMontague why are you trying to muddy the water here do you not agree the situation is dire at the moment?

He is not too keen on Ukraine .

@@ConCon75 be a neoliberal remainer who thinks they are convincing as some kind of supporters of trade unionism. Might as well be getting criticised by out and out Tories.

We're in the fight of our lives.

Leon , respect,most people are so blinkered or scared stiff, they think a union is a bad thing ..I think we've been so divided since fxxxxxx Thatcher, where we went from Love thy neighbour to...Shop thy neighbour ☹️

I've always been a left of centre person but I'm drifting and fully believe for a host of reasons that nationalising is the only way out. Mick and Eddie are spot on. Eddie also touched on strike action is not the only way as will probably be the case in my profession. Up the workers!

Automatic response for those dickheads is: "Do you enjoy your weekends? How about not being forced to work when you're pregnant? Or being made to slave away for more than 8 hours a day? How about that sick pay (assuming you have any)?"

You have my greatest respect

Shows what a pisspoor state our politicians are in that these two working class blokes can do a better job explaining their political views. Since watching these two speak I notice more and more that so many politicians, especially Grant Shapps and Mark Harper but lots of others too, just don't say what they believe in. They do believe in things, you can tell from what they do, but they won't own up to it. They seem to treat every conversation like a game that they win by saying the most words and making the fewest actual points. Whereas Mick and Eddie just say what they believe in. And you can take or leave that, agree or disagree, but you know where you stand with them and I have huge respect for that.

They are the Brian Cloughs of political life and for those that do not know what I mean imagine the England mens football team if it had been manged by Brian Clough exactly.

This is the real sickness that runs through this country. We keep looking towards posh Eton boys and the upper class to help us when it's never in their interests to do so!

But we need good outside pressure. Government means assimilation

They won't! The political system is designed in such a way where people like these two will get hushed out the backdoor!

I'd also love to see informal banter interview over a G&T with Grant Shapps. 🤣 He'd be a rabbit in the headlights.

I'd love to see Grant Shapps stuck between a Gorilla and a Tiger too!

I hope they come to parts of Central Scotland. I'll be there to support 100%

It was the Euros.

Gold ,

However the Union leadership advised it's members to vote for brexit, they argued brexit would give job security, better pay and working conditions, that it was better the for the British government to make its own decisions!! So we can assume that a large proportion of the workforce voted for Boris and stabbed Corbyn in the back. The same argument applies to the sacked P&O workers. The soon forgotten sacked P&O workers. Why didn't the unions call a national strike back then?

@@DrMontague Which still doesn't diminish what they're saying. Billionaires, the media and Tories are scum 🙂

@@iiwii8622 What about the scum working class who put the scum in power? Most working class arse holes I tried to debate with would fight tooth n Nail to protect them. I never forget workers queuing up to buy Rupert Murdoch's SUN tabloid. Those selling the Socialist Worker couldn't give their papers away! I wonder how many RMT union members and sacked P&O workers bought the Sun on their way to work each morning? Even after the Hillsborough football disaster and the lies the Sun tabloid wrote about the Liverpool supporters the arse working class continued buying his tabloid.

Their whole evil agenda is to drive the masses into poverty ? That's their plan ,surely we cannot deny this ,? So that we will all have to rely on the State , which suits them fine it's about control , but United we stand , divided we fall is was the Labour Party mantra ? If we stand together they brick it , safety in numbers ?

Socialism seemed to work for nearly 12 million when they sat in their gardens for best part of a year on ' free ' money. Only when it suits....

It's up to the members to push the RCN and unison.

Bless you, I'm sorry to hear you had to leave. I'm a carer, am fortunate to have regular night shifts currently but I am constantly worried if I loose that call/patient (I'm in the community) There's no way I could live on the wage doing the general rounds, especially on foot and public transport. I often bitterly joke about our pay rise in the form of applause so it was awesome to hear Eddie make a comment on that. Solidarity, I hope you find something you love doing.

Thank you Dan. What a comment on how one of the richest countries in the world is run - and who it's run for.

Dan truly wish I could help you guys in healthcare. God knows l and my husband are going to need people,like you soon as we are both in our 80s. Thank you for everything you have done. Wonder if you could work privately or as a self employed care worker? Think about it.

The govt has launched a survey across Care Homes for older people and Domiciliary care to identify 'the fair cost of care' due for submissin in October 22. But if the councils aren't then allocated sufficient funds to pay it, we are back to unsustainable services that cannot recruit or retain staff. Then what?

I feel very strongly that carers should have been given above inflation pay rises for at LEAST the last 10 years. Disgusting the way society is upside down in this regard. Wishing you well in the future mate.

Linda Currie - tell the brain cell deficient, the old people who have the Daily Bile as their bible, not to let the media push them into having their perceptions manipulated and when they take notice do,please let me know and I will double my subs to UNITE. These people do not want to THINK about their children and their grand children’s futures. They don’t care.

Rather a Tory than a gulag supporter

@@flannelsykes0 please define ‘gulag supporter’

@@elaineedgar2913 In the big book of internet trolling it comes under "Use ad hominem remarks". They're to be used when curtains are drawn and darkness doth hide a veil of solitary tears that indeed, moisten the redden cheeks of an unwell individual. Although it may also cometh under "Claims of a fondness for Stalinism" which could lead to Gulagism from the Gulaggers who dwell in the towers most Ivory. The free marketers who market most freely could claim to market their freedom in the duplication of goods arriving from the Jupiter staircase recently built by Sir Winalot Pie and his slave labour brought in from a Tesla manufacturing plant. In essence and very much in keeping with the digital age, words, slogans and their very meaning have a negative capability to ensure the non progress of a cat with extra furry ears.

@@flannelsykes0 um…..pardon?

AND Labour. Labour is essentially a second tory party at this point. Both parties serve the same economic agenda which is ruining our nations on behalf of global corporations and billionaires. They control our governments, democracies, media, intelligence agencies and now most of the internet. Labour no longer supports Labour, it supports Wall-Street. We shouldn't give either party our votes until they give us something to vote FOR. 💪

Mick Lynch for labour leader

absoloutly

However the Union leadership advised it's members to vote for brexit, they argued brexit would give job security, better pay and working conditions, that it was better the for the British government to make its own decisions!! So we can assume that a large proportion of the workforce voted for Boris and stabbed Corbyn in the back. The same argument applies to the sacked P&O workers. The soon forgotten sacked P&O workers. Why didn't the unions call a national strike back then?

@@DrMontague don't know 🤷‍♂️

@@lincslegend6936 This is the reason I don't jump on the band wagon and state what a fantastic job they are doing. That they are so intelligent. If only they were MPs etc. The RMT will not come out on strike to support the nurse of care workers who cannot strike for ethical reasons i.e. people would die, operations cancelled etc. If they win the depute they will simply say thank you to those who have supported them. They will simply turn around to the care workers and say' you really can't expect us to come out on strike to support you, but we do wish you good luck!'.

If that were true, there would never be a tory government.

Wont happen bro ,the wastemonter govt wont allow it , pity tho cause these two guys say how it is for real in workplace britain , more power to them

Well done guys for your honesty decency and integrity.❤

However the Union leadership advised it's members to vote for brexit, they argued brexit would give job security, better pay and working conditions, that it was better the for the British government to make its own decisions!! So we can assume that a large proportion of the workforce voted for Boris and stabbed Corbyn in the back. The same argument applies to the sacked P&O workers. The soon forgotten sacked P&O workers. Why didn't the unions call a national strike back then?

@@DrMontague If you are lied to every single time you put your head above the parapet to ask a question, then it becomes incredibly difficult to tell your membership anything other than what you were told was going to happen. Even though 'though project fear' was the one telling you the truth.

GB News like Mick and Eddie, they're based hard brexiteers

@@J4CK4L7 trust me I know that they are but what I’ve noticed since 2016 this is the first and only time I think the working class on both sides of the political isle have come in sync. Fuck it. Let’s take advantage of it.

“As long as you went in early on” 🤪

Me too, it's so nice to hear them talk about the care industry with passion. The best we get from most of the politicians is vapid sound bites and rounds of applause. I definitely buy them a round!

It's been here all along, but the tories have sidelined the trade unions, and they are starved of publicity.

The 70s were a disgrace. Why the fuck do we want to return to totalitarian Unionism?

thats a normal irish man.

​@richmondexcaxley😊ene0413

No it wasn't

@@FCBayernGaming21 aww...its a shame you didn't see the funny side.

This is subtle working class pub etiquette that the elite would never understand lol

He really wanted a pint 🤣🤣

Spotted it immediately

Eddie was chugging them down 3:1 vs Mick… he had a proper thirst on

He did his first in 6 mins lol. Great to see xd

That's the least I would expect earing six figure salaries.

However the Union leadership advised it's members to vote for brexit, they argued brexit would give job security, better pay and working conditions, that it was better the for the British government to make its own decisions!! So we can assume that a large proportion of the workforce voted for Boris and stabbed Corbyn in the back. The same argument applies to the sacked P&O workers. The soon forgotten sacked P&O workers. Why didn't the unions call a national strike back then?

brilliant the only way for change is for everyone to share this and stand together we are a lot more powerful than we think thankyou for this

Another RM worker here.✊

A whole load of what they're talking about is just uninformed, opinionated whining, not actual FACT.

@@Dynasty1818 oh f off. Your empty putdowns aren't going to work

@@Dynasty1818 We all have the opportunity to research whether what we believe to be true is actually true. In the words of Bertrand Russell “ the whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves,and wiser people so full of doubts”.

@@Dynasty1818smarmy middle class people and class traitirs not welcome here. Read your tory graph or something.

I 100% agree with your sentiment here mate.. but in a world where the right wing media use communistic terms to trigger people,, language like "brothers and sisters of the motherland" probably isn't gonna help....

Sounds like a religion

@@Dionysos640 Nationalists usually talk like that lol

You really think unions are in it for the common folk?

I thought the actual discussion was much better .