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Dragon Ball Z: Dragon Box VS. Funimation Single DVD (Episodes 172 and 173) 

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I chose to compare episode 172 with each other on these releases for one main reason: The Funimation single actually uses footage from the Dragon Box! (Kinda.)
The Dragon Ball Z Dragon Box came out in Japan in 2003, this single DVD was released in America in 2004, and the US Dragon Boxes were released from 2009 to 2011. You might think Funi received the Dragon Box masters around the time they came out, but that's actually not the case. If you look closely, you'll notice that the Funi single has scratches on the footage as well as the tape marks between frames at the top of the screen, while the Dragon Box does not. Toei restored the original footage and cleaned those up from the footage (mostly).
It seems that the Funi single uses the Dragon Box transfer before any sort of remastering was done, not the finished Dragon Box masters , since they likely didn't have those yet. That's pretty intresting, and I'm not sure why they didn't use this footage for the rest of the single DVD's they have yet to release. Episode 172 is the only episode of the single DVD's to have this oddity. I also compared episode 173 to show you the usual difference between these releases.
It's worth noting that the North American VHS as well as the Australian DVD counterpart of the single DVD both use the standard digibeta footage that the rest of the single DVD's used, as both of those were released in 2002, a year before the Dragon Boxes even released in Japan. The North American DVD came out in 2004.
Fun Fact: EVERY EPISODE OF GT ON THE SINGLE DVD'S IS LIKE THIS! They also use the Dragon Box transfers before Toei fixed up the footage, which makes them look really sharp, despite having a low bitrate. That's pretty cool if you ask me. The Green Bricks also use that footage as a base, but Funi blurred it making it look soft, and then added a sharpening filter over it, giving everything weird halos.
It's hard to tell in this video due to compression and RU-vid, but the Funi single for episode 172 is actually more grainy, and seems to be slightly sharper in person compared to the Dragon Box. Truth be told, the saying that the Dragon Boxes have no DNR is a total lie; almost everything re-released that was on film as some degree of DNR applied, it's just the Dragon Boxes use it more rationally than say, the Orange Bricks. The Funi single lacks it for this episode because again, this was before the remastering process.
In both episodes, I used the audio from the single DVD's, since I imagine most people watching this are more familiar with the audio from the Dragon Boxes.

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@Supersayainpikmin
@Supersayainpikmin Год назад
I'm not sure why the footage is off from each other by one frame, while between other shots its fine. This was also like this while I was editing. I do know the Dragon Box does have a one frame audio delay, so thay might be related, but this was more than likely a mistake on my part. I'll be more careful about this next time. Sorry for any inconvenience.
@atomic_xfire
@atomic_xfire Год назад
It may or may not be. There is actual extra frames in the US DBox which aren't even present on the Japanese version. When my team produced the "merge" set online in 2020, we ran into technical difficulties at first because of these extra frames. It's a strange oddity and can affect any episode from 1-3 frames.
@Supersayainpikmin
@Supersayainpikmin Год назад
@@atomic_xfire Wow, that's fascinating, I didn't know that. I can understand the raw Funi master being different because it was before any remastering, but that's just wild. My theory before was that they simply cut the frames with tapemarks out and held the frames before/after for longer to prevent audio desync. Not sure if that's the case though. Also, awesome job you guys did on the merge! It looks amazing, it really does.
@atomic_xfire
@atomic_xfire Год назад
@Supersayainpikmin thanks! Our color corrected version of Dragonball is due out this year. Seed of Might has been hard at work since October 2021 and we are really looking forward to it. It's funny you mention desnych. It's really hard to say why those extra frames exist but they actually caused the desynch in the first place. It's subtle but we had to fix that too before injecting the broadcast audio.
@StarcatMkV
@StarcatMkV Год назад
Ya know, to be honest, they each have their own charm that I wouldn't shy from.
@GabePickles3837
@GabePickles3837 Год назад
They’re both similar, but the Funi Singles have darker colors. I kinda like it better.
@Supersayainpikmin
@Supersayainpikmin Год назад
I agree, I definetly prefer the colors to the Funi singles over the Dragon Box's.
@GothicDamien666
@GothicDamien666 3 месяца назад
The crop still bugs me you can tell krillins right arm wasnt in the scene Yamaha hair is cropped and also Gohan's hair lines
@JonesDylan874
@JonesDylan874 2 месяца назад
Both of these look good.
@dblibruary
@dblibruary Год назад
When I usually watch that I tend to just change the Hue on my Polaroid DVD player from 0 to 3 and that makes it look like the funi single, it did wonders on the Goku VS Vegeta episode and the Beam Clash one afterwards though my preference is Hue 4 for that one as it still looked too green sadly after those episodes nothing really looks different.
@anameraucana1688
@anameraucana1688 Год назад
Zoom aside Funi’s single looks alright, somehow a bit more accurate to the Japanese broadcast color wise, but the Dragon Box has the better picture quality. (I actually own this specific single, and yes it was for the Dragon Box episode)
@samuel-wankenobi
@samuel-wankenobi Месяц назад
I prefer the colours of the funimation singles but the picture quality of the dragon box if we could somehow have the dragon box with the colours of the funimation singles that would be perfect
@daviddeltoro1808
@daviddeltoro1808 Год назад
so the funi singles dvds have the highest quality with no digital retouching? Both use high quality sources that ended up on the dragon box right?
@Supersayainpikmin
@Supersayainpikmin Год назад
For every episode of Z except for episode 172 on the single DVD's, they use third, possible fourth generation transfers on tape. So yes, while it's not digitally remastered or altered, its not exactly the highest quality source. Episode 172 uses the Dragon Box transfer but not the final master, before Toei edited out stuff like tapemarks and scratches in the film.
@tvhuntermkd
@tvhuntermkd Год назад
Just to be more clear, all the episodes from the DBZ Funi singles use the rough tape transfer pre-dragon box footage, except episode 172? Right?
@Supersayainpikmin
@Supersayainpikmin Год назад
That is correct.
@EmptyEmpathy
@EmptyEmpathy Год назад
pretty interesting video
@MelloWyatt
@MelloWyatt Год назад
Do the original Dragon ball singles use the Dragon Box footage as well or is it only the Gt singles along with this random Z episode.
@Supersayainpikmin
@Supersayainpikmin Год назад
Of all the Z singles, this is the only episode AFAIK to use Dragon Box footage, and even then its only the North American version. All of the GT singles use Dragon Box footage (in North America; not sure about Australia).
@MelloWyatt
@MelloWyatt Год назад
@@Supersayainpikmin Yeah I was wondering what footage the OG series with Kid Goku uses. I think it’s called the Saga or Madman sets. I have a few of the Z singles and on the trailers of original DB series the footage looks pretty good with a lot of grain and solid colors. But idk if they got it from the dragon boxes or something else.
@Supersayainpikmin
@Supersayainpikmin Год назад
@@MelloWyatt The single DVD's for OG and Z used third, possible fourth generation copies of the original prints that Toei sent them to create the English dub. You are right, for whatever reason they do have better colors than the Dragon Box's, but they're also grainier. The Blue Bricks look more or less the same as the Saga Sets for OG Dragon Ball.
@kekethetoad
@kekethetoad Год назад
What exact resolution do they output? 480i? I imagine either would look incredible on a quality CRT.
@Supersayainpikmin
@Supersayainpikmin Год назад
Either 480i or 480p. I tried it at 480p on a VGA monitor and both looked pretty darn good to me.
@kekethetoad
@kekethetoad Год назад
@@Supersayainpikmin Awesome. They're both still the best ways to watch (unless if u want ocean dub then it's rock the dragon). CRT works absolute magic with DVD and really brings it to life!
@chasen432
@chasen432 7 месяцев назад
​@@kekethetoadHow do you think they would look on a modern tv? Im currently wanting to track down the Funi singles. All the blurays have flaws I cant overlook. Sucks the level sets didn't get completed which is why I am looking for the singles plus I gotta have the Bruce Falconer music.
@MTMfilms2
@MTMfilms2 6 месяцев назад
The Funi Singles look amazing on a CRT, pretty much just like how they aired on Cartoon Network. The Dragon Boxes look nicer overall and are more at home with modern flatscreens (that is until AB puts out their Blu Ray set in the future).
@chasen432
@chasen432 6 месяцев назад
@@MTMfilms2 What do you mean when you say AB? I have a crt tv but its tucked away and mainly use my a90J oled.
@theposer
@theposer Год назад
How were you able to get the dvd singles in 1080p?
@napasensei133
@napasensei133 Год назад
They just uploaded it in 1080p and exported it on 1080p they didn’t have it in 1080p you just need a editing program like adobe premire
@Supersayainpikmin
@Supersayainpikmin Год назад
Basically what Napa Sensei said. Any video player on PC will automatically scale it up, as well as any Blu Ray player (unless you select Original Resoultion in the settings).
@Ejaz100
@Ejaz100 Год назад
They look pretty much the same, the colour pallet is a bit different
@atomic_xfire
@atomic_xfire Год назад
Its because DBox uses film positives and the US version was third gen film negatives. They each have faults. On film generated negatives, the images lose some of the darker range. This is known as "crush." Film positives though retain these features but are more prone to deterioration. We are finishing up our color corrected versions of the dbox now. So shortly there will be a pinultimate release by fans. Keep an eye out of "Seed of Might" or "iKaos" releases
@samuel-wankenobi
@samuel-wankenobi Месяц назад
I heard that the funimation singles are based on the same tapes the Latin American Spanish dub used is this true?
@Supersayainpikmin
@Supersayainpikmin Месяц назад
That rumor was debunked a while ago.
@CanadaFlo
@CanadaFlo Год назад
mhm... ok
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