What really pisses me off is that the original victim of Dream's grooming to come forward, with actual evidence linking directly to Dream, months & months ago, has been forgotten underneath the pile of "drama" & controversy
@@Ebh55. I don't remember her name but she was 17 & had screenshots & videos of her conversations with Dream on his Snapchat & his personal Snapchat, going back over a year. In the videos/screen recordings she went through the steps from the convos she was showing all the way to his Snapchat etc, so there was no doubt it was him. In the convos he was asking her (a minor) for lewd/nude pictures, commenting sexually on regular pictures she was posting publicly, talking to her sexually & asking her to reply in the same way, etc. She also had screen recording of DM's with him on his Instagram, where he was the same way. He did respond to her on Twitter, stating he had believed she was 18 the whole time & therefore he did nothing wrong.
People disregarded her story because she was a groomer herself but that doesnt change anything? Even if it was confirmed that amanda was a groomer, that doesnt mean she cant also be a victim of grooming? 😭 ive never seen any evidence disproving her claims too its just dream stans trying to defend him but never actually proving anything..
If his videos had more depth I'd think that too but this is very surfaces level, he didn't even show half of what pyro did in terms of video and tweets, dream admitted to sending that moaning audio as well which he must have missed in his mess of strings and tweet print outs....smh
so glad you made this video. i've had friends ask me what i think about the Dream drama and i've told them "I have no idea" then they get mad at me for 'not picking a side, when someone's clearly in the wrong' i'm not saying that. i'm saying that i literally have no clue what's going on over there and there's too many people saying too many things for me to even try to untangle the mess. It's crazy.
If they are that hung up on some petty drama that was solved not even too long ago and are mad at you for not understanding should they even be friends with you? Just my opinion is all.
When your fanbase is entirely composed of quirky 13 year olds, you can't really expect things to be logical and factual. You can only run away as fast as possible.
The only exception is Markiplier. That dude can make thirst-traps, make a calendar with nude photos, MAKE AN ONLY FANS with the same fan base ages as Dream and still have everyone’s side with him. Halo effect
@@jahn77I think markiplier fanbase has grown up or aged up with the years passing also he is actually hot so I dont mind seeing a thirst trap, have not seen dream thirst trap but I feel like that would be a literal JUMPSCARE
maybe 'cause the majority of markiplier fans have grown up and are now either teens or early adults. his entire fanbase isn't composed of 13 year olds, and he's also not up here chatting them up either.@@jahn77
@@trashman11 The whole slur thing has always been dumb. They're just insults, no different than "stupid" or "idiot", just because some 16 year olds cry on twitter, people are afraid they'll ruin their careers so that's why everyone's scared of them. Not like there is a law against them that sentences you to 10 years for each slur. It's just people looking for things to worry about, fight others for since they have no problems in their lives.
The people making fake allegations are essentially aiding him by obscuring whatever it is he's guilty of. I trust you to update us on the facts that come to light
Yeah, I guess it's because are just naturally against him. Most people probably wouldn't even bother seeing the evidence and reading the argument, they'll just be against him.
That's cuz it's so trendy to hate on dream that even if courts rule him as entirely innocent, the internet would still want its witch hunt and would not care.
"Here's the evidence for that" Oh man, never in my life have I lowered the volume so fast... Like, my fuckin' lizard brain kicked in, pushing my conscious state down for a moment. My thumbs were Flash Stepping lol.
@@hoshi6539no by getting someone under the drinking age drunk and then filming a video with the intentions of using it against Nick one day instead of helping him out
It’s probably because everyone on all ends of the spectrum hate him so it spins out of control since basically no one is on his side and would love to spread news of him doing something bad regardless of whether it’s true or not lol Edit: like I don’t like him very much but I’ve learned not to believe whatever Twitter says about him because what lol
@@kx7500honestly it seems more untamed with Dream drama-- probably because of the young feral audience and Dream not shutting up and just making things worse
@@NGLSwitchyhave you heard what Charlie fucking said? Anyone can creat a “Dream Account” and post in moans and not only ontop of that, there’s no evident of his face or anything else. It’s hard to take this as solid proof and evidence
Because he wasn’t hurting anybody realistically, he’s a grown man a couple bad words being shouted at him isn’t going to kill him. He should be more worried about being a grown man who only surrounds himself with people younger than him
This situation is so bizarre. Once you read the allegations and the alleged proof provided against Dream, you come to realize that none of it is actually enough to even begin to make him seem guilty. However, his inability to just shut the fuck up has completely destroyed people's willingness to side with him, even if he is right in the end
The "allegations" are ridiculous. I only just found out about this man today, but let him live his life. If the young woman agrees to come over his house, then let them be. There's nothing wrong with 24 and 17 in most states, just like there's nothing wrong with 34 and 17, and we cant help it if younger women offer us more and aren't as compromised as their older counterparts. It's 2023. We're not trying to buy a Sega Saturn, ya feel me.
@@Zenigundam well if that ain't bait i don't know what the fuck is lmao. regardless, a minor is a minor, and it IS wrong in most states, so kindly shuffle your dumbass out the door my guy.
Seriously tho. Sometimes its best to just turn replys off dip off social media for like a month and just go on series of trips or vacation or sum. Seriously a month in the real world is like a year on the internet lol. Ppl will completely forget. This is how politicians and congressman touch children and shit and suddenly everyones talking ab something else within like 2 weeks lmao. That or if the scandals big enough ppl start dissapearing.
Not sure about that, there can be outliers. Take Boyinaband for example, he's been inactive for years and got many allegations against him, and no matter what he is going to do, his reputation is destroyed.
Can’t stay silent when the accusations are this serious though. Edit: although I’d admit there is a fine balance to be had, somewhere between staying silent and spamming twitter with long ass essays.
@@gergoretvari6373there are times to be silent and times to address things, I think. If boyinaband was able to completely debunk everything, for example what Kwite did when he had allegations made against him, that would’ve been a time to speak up and defend himself. In boyinabands case, there are a few things that do point to him maybe having done some of what was alleged against him, and since he’s been silent and hasn’t defended himself at all, it adds fuel to the fire and makes him a lot more ‘guilty seeming’. Now dream is different, dream is just a loudmouth dumbass and no matter what he did it would’ve been a failure.
Dream's presence on the Internet has to be the weirdest thing I have ever seen in years. Dude was the shit for about a few weeks, and then he just attracted the most brutal hate for the rest of his career. There is absolutely no way he can win Edit: Fucking jinxed it TL;DR: Quit dogpiling on this dude
To be fair, it was more like a few months. And he and the people around him probably got enough money and attention from that stuff to make it worth while. Thing is, when you're a super popular minecraft RU-vid with a whole bunch of kids who aggressively defend you, you're just gonna get hate. What he could really do, is handle it with maturity. And that is precisely what he failed at. At first I used to think the guy was a teenager himself with the sh1t he said. But it's actually wild when I learned the guy is in his 20s. He's my age but acts like my younger brother lmao
Tbf, he fed so much into it. Have you seen the tweet where some rando teenager with 12 followers called Dream's merch ugly and Dream retweeted it calling the teenager ugly and sending his entire fanbase after them. He's wild, absolute 0 self control or acknowledgement about what his insane fanbase does to the people he attacks.
Charlie not believing that some men randomly send moaning clips to people is quite wholesome. He has clearly never seen the sh*t people send on Snapchat and I respect that.
Holy shit people should be ashamed of themselves. where is the proof. no where. ' oh look a screen shot" so? that could be easily faked. it is amazing how people just grab onto things without anything
I’m not a fan of dream but holy FUCK it’s incredible to see, regardless of how many creators are falsely accused, that this many people will immediately disregard truth or his side of the story. Have we not learned enough from the dozens of situations just like this? Slazo? Pyrocynical?
I KNOW RIGHT?! like people really love to hop on the hate trains of people theyre jealous or spiteful of and dont even listen to their side even if they can prove it😭props to his legal team for working all of these months. kinda goes to show that no matter how hard you try you can still get fucked over by enough random people hating you for something you didnt do. humans are spooky
@@ahlogic5960 in a sense, it was. It was explicit material of another person used in a spiteful or vengeful manner, assumedly without that persons consent. That does not equate to him taking ownership of the audio.
@@tweenytwinkies He literally talked about this in his tweet, he was drunk and didn't mean to say those things, he knew what he did was wrong.. also he can reclaim the said slurs he said 😭 also apparently he was going thru a manic (?) episode ?
@@ColeCassidyishotbruh whooo cares that he was drunk, it was literally harassing a stranger. also, reclaiming a slur doesn’t mean you can just use it as a slur. that’s not the same thing. reclaiming insinuates that there is power in what you’re doing and taking it back from your oppressor. calling someone the f word and r word as an insult isn’t reclaiming anything, you’re just calling someone a slur
@@nagashtheundyingking4404this is why smaller kids below the age of 8-10 shouldn’t have RU-vid but parents these days are failures and rely on RU-vid to raise their kids
"Hire a Harvard professor to calculate why despite texting every twitch streamer in Austin nobody wanted to f*k you" - Gumball really pulverised Dream . 😂
I like how y’all say this and completely dismissed of how much of a piece of shit that guy is, just because he is against Dream and you guys didnt like Dream because your fav content creators says so 😂 in any other situation you would’ve ranted so much more about him but nope, not this time, he gets the pass, just like that your virtue signaling got flipped 180 degree 😂😂😂😂😂 also, you’re a pedophile and a groomer and I have screenshot of it, so just trust me okay regardless if a plain and simple screenshot is as easily editable as a youtube comment, but trust me okay, but it’ll probably not work anyway since people doesnt hate you enough, and in order for a pedophile to be taken accountability he needs to be a “narcissist” first, otherwise all pedo gets a pass by Twitter, 16 years old post puberty Minecraft childrens and the 13 to 15 years old Charlie viewers that he himself is just as narcissistic bipolar and a hypocrite as any of those he talked shit about 🤷🏻♂️
The first time I ever heard of Dream was because of drama. The second time after not hearing him for months was because of drama. The third time again is because of drama. He's like a controversy magnet.
@@MrUssy101are you trolling or literally just this slow? I see you’re just a troll now 100+ comments and one said “fist incel Charlie was against my favorite person pokimane now SSSniperwolf”
Honestly I’m kind of shocked there hasn’t been a part two to this video. Don’t get me wrong I don’t expect an apology video or for him to take back anything he said here, I’m not a fool, but Dream’s response video was a HUGE deal on the internet and that fact that Charlie never made a video on it after it came out is genuinely shocking to me. This is right up his alley in terms of content but he never touched it
Because then charlie would have to admit he was wrong lmao He did however watch it on stream. Well, he watched 1/3 of it, made a shitty response saying "yeah but im still right" then called it quits
Everything I've seen from Dream is like a giant lesson in knowing when to shut up. People throw these allegations at Dream to troll or whatever, Dream bends over backwards and addresses absolutely everything thus giving the accusers exactly what they want, and the allegations continue. He needs to get off the internet for like a few months at least if he wants to avoid insanity or jail time
Dream's downfall is literally because he spends most of his day responding to trolls on Twitter. He is obsessed with Twitter to an unhealthy degree and needs someone to keep him off the app for a whole month.
imagine the amazing world of gumball producers just casually drop the new season with that banger episode of him beating the shit out of a smiling image that can speak
As someone who is bipolar, one of my biggest fears is being recorded during a manic episode, because you cant really control yourself.. and the fact dream recorded him to use the video against him just makes it even worse..
Dream is a scumbag but he wasn't the one who recorded the video. It was a friend and gumball requested it be recorded. Still dream is a groomer imo and is disgusting but so is gumball
I have bipolar and BPD and I’m an artist and writer but I keep my life simple, stable, and out of the spotlight. I stay on my meds, stay sober, and I don’t worry 👍🏻 I was in a band for 10 years and realized the spotlight isn’t worth the risk to my mental health or reputation these days. Just create for yourself and take care of your mental health. Social media and the spotlight is terrible for mental health, especially for those who have mental illnesses. Good luck to you and your journey 🫡🫡
@@bhalterman30"dream is a groomer imo" what do you mean? /gen I haven't been keeping up with dreams bs,(because ew lol) but the way this was worded concerns me. The word "groomer" is another word for a pedophile, or someone 18+ who exploits people younger that 18 for sexual favors. Someone can't be a groomer "in your opinion." That sounds... wrong. [Edited for clarification. Also I'm aware of him posting thirst traps to a public account and a mostly-child audience, but while it's sus af, it *technically* isn't illegal. I wish it was though.]
You'd think a manipulative narcissist would be good at being that, but Dream has the worst case of verbal diarrhea I've ever seen on Twitter right now.
If you ever feel sad remember there are people online who actively harras some random ass adult all because he maybe faked his speedrun and has a LGBT fanbase that ships him with his friend Some random ass egotistical voice actor who only has one role under his belt called him slurs and assaulted him and they’re going after dream 😂
Some important context - Dream actually did confirm that those moaning audios were real. There’s no question on whether it’s a fake Snapchat account, his claim is that they were sent to someone of age.
The fact that "Sam Dream" is a listed contact in this person's phone does give some merit to the idea that they know Dream's ex. He claims it's revenge p. Anything that's connected to his ex needs to be taken with not a grain, but a mountain worth of salt.
Bruh, don’t know why, but heading Charlie say “Dream vs gumball” in a mono-tone voice made me laugh hysterically💀💀 it’s like the shitting unicorns taken to court debacle
Looking back at this vid after watching the response shows how wrong Charlie and his audience is. Including me, as someone who was sorta a dream hater For him being cringey and incredibly biased towards Charlie. I’ve gotta say Charlie is definitely wrong on this one and I hope he addresses it.
He did on stream never watched, but I've seen a clip of it. Also hopefully you didn't believe that dream was a pedo 100% bc this vid litterly says to me these allegations aren't 100%. He was wrong about the pics tho. Well I believe I can't remember the reaction mind you what I'm talking about is about the thirst trap pics. In my opinion dream should've been stoped texting that lady but I get it he was just trying to be nice which In turn made a weirdo that accused him of some fucked shit.
@@mrduck375 He watched a extremely tiny portion of the video about one of the more miniscule factors, made a comment on it when he has no place to since he didn't finish the video, and then has failed to address it since. If he isn't making a new video on the situation then frankly I'm disgusted.
If Dream would just keep his mouth shut about petty drama, he would not get nearly the amount of hate he does. Hating on Dream is a trend that would've died a long time ago if he would just ignore it and move on with his life. It's wild that his reputation is so bad that he can get randomly assaulted by someone he barely knows and he's still made out to be the bad guy in the situation.
Honestly regardless on if he is or isn’t guilty of all the allegations, him getting into petty drama doesn’t help his image and his reputation is going down.
Not necessarily related to Charlie's take, but I think if we're going to go after Dream for posting normal pictures of his face or even wanting to look good in his photos as problematic or it being weird because of his audience's age, you're going to have to dismantle the entire music and movie industry who targets pre-teens with attractive boys who are older than them. People like the Dolan Twins existed for years, whose target audience was solely teenage girls who thought they were attractive. They would of course play to this angle and provide some level of fan service for these underage girls, but they were never criticized or considered 'predatory,' yet Dream is because of the stigma around the Minecraft community and the deep hatred Twitter has for this dude, and he isn't even trying to thirst trap or look attractive for an underage female audience. Dream is a guy who grew up with a weight issue and immediately upon revealing his face to the public got called hideous, I'm sure he wants to also improve his image by posting pictures other than what is shown in his face reveal. Is it really unreasonable for him to post pictures in which he actually looks good? Does that make him a creep? I don't think so personally.
The guy's never gonna get the hint that he should just...turn off twitter. Time and time again he gets into trouble, and most of it was because he felt like he just *had* to reply to someone. Like a TON of the issues he gets into can be avoid if he just learns to ignore people and stay offline- this situation is so messy because of how many people are throwing things around, but regardless he's just making it look worse by actively screaming left and right. Log out, don't reply to fans, and for gods sake get a manager to handle social media if he physically cannot restrain himself.
@meganp8372 if dream never touched twitter 90%, of the hate he gets would simply not exist It's amazing how whenever he gets into some kinda trouble he consistently always makes it worse
Ahh yes, “petty drama” they had the whole internet calling him a pedophile from before he started responding. Maybe you shouldn’t be talking about things you don’t know
Not necessarily. If someone took random pictures of someone, put it through one of those deep fakes or ai generated programs to make a sex vid or naked pictures, and then post to the internet, I'd say that is a type of revenge porn. So I don't think it's that unreasonable for him to refer to it as revenge porn. Whether he did it or not, is still up in the air.
@@Irishxlily Not to mention if the audio was real, it could have been sent to a consenting adult party instead, which makes the moniker of ‘revenge porn’ make more sense. As always the waters get muddier
@@Irishxlily Does AI shit or an impersonation really count though? I always understood revenge porn as a shitty ex partner releasing private video/audio/images to hurt someone. His use of the term just rubbed me the wrong way here, not saying it's proof of anything. Also, like I said, it only implies the audio is him, not that he sent it to a minor. It's completely reasonable to assume he sent it to an adult who then leaked it to make him look bad.
If the conclusion relies on the individual's subjective definition of a word, we can't make any assumptions and as such any implication is meaningless@@notSignum
@@anattemptwasmade I wasn't aware there were other interpretations of the term before today. I just assumed everyone had the same understanding of what revenge porn is. Also I didn't make any conclusions, I just said I raised my eyebrow at his use of the term.
Charlie saying that people often tke the allegations at face value and just run along with them because they hate dream is so incredibly spot on and its backed up by all the comments in this video lol
Too bad Charlie and you haven't gone into depth about the topic at all Watching this video, its very apparent Charlie just saw some tweets, saw a video, and wanted to make a quick video for easy views. He even says he's confused multiple times in the video. Bro has no idea about this topic because he can't be bothered to put some actual effort into researching it
@reyalfa18 While there's no concrete evidence, there's definitely some evidence that's much more than just incredibly shaky that's surfaced recently But of course, Charlie didn't go over any of that because he simply can't be bothered to put effort into making a video like this
@@shaunduzstuffsor maybe because he knows he can’t accuse someone of something no matter how much evidence he finds. He’s not a detective just a guy. This isn’t a topic he can dive into and without creating his own stir of controversy. He’s smart and doesn’t want unnecessary drama plus he knows he doesn’t have the ability to deem him guilty or not. No one does unless they are actually involved and have real evidence to go on.
If someone told me Gumball and Dream would have fight, Gumball was drunk and beat Dreams ass and told me in one of the past three years.... I'd probably believe them because the 2020's have been wilde shit..... Like Olivia fucking Wilde
Happy Thanksgiving Even though we are only commentors or strangers on the internet, we can imagine we are eating and watching RU-vid together and united.
if gumball was still airing there would 100% be a episode of gumball getting into an argument online with a guy in a green hoodie saying "that's what the mask is"
