He crumbled at being asked to be responsible - a trad wife can only be (happily) sustainable in a trad household these days, where the man will need to provide the income to support the family, not just himself. I can only imagine that he probably has nothing going for him and knows that he could never support the household like that. Being called out and asked to be a man was just too much for this child.
Guy found a woman who wants to be a stay at home trad-wife, and managed to call her a gold digger for agreeing with him? These dudes have never had a coherent thought in their lives.
There are actually plenty of women out there who would love to be a trad wife so i used to never understand why redpillers are upset all the time. But now i know why. They don't even want an actual trad wife. They want someone who acts like a trad wife while also contributing money to their home. 🤦🏻♀️
See this is why I hate the term red pilling, because it's supposed to basically mean someone is swapping to being either Republican or conservative when it comes to political mindset, it's not supposed to mean that you're becoming a cringe POS, but unfortunately with situations such as this, with the alpha male podcasts causing Alpha levels of brain rot Within These guys, shit like this is why the term is being poisoned
"I want someone who will cook, clean, take care of the house, raise the kids" "Okay, yeah thats me, thats what I'm looking for" "Oh so you want to contribute nothing to the relationship, gold digger?" "No, I'm literally offering traditional wife skills to the relationship, the exact things you wanted from a partner" "You're a gold digging harlot! I knew it was too good to be true!!!" Tell me this guy isn't a fresh and fit fan, please. Theres no way he consumes any other redpill content and misses the mark that hard.
So, let me get this straight. This guy threw a whole fit when she offered to pay for half of dinner. Then turns around and calls her a gold digger and "f**k you" for agreeing with him and also wanting a traditional relationship? He's delulu as hell. I'm so happy no one is ever gonna date this guy now 😂
She paid for the whole thing. The “humiliation” was actually her making her own order when he tried to order for her without knowing what she even wanted 😂
@@leojoking1615you're probably being sarcastic but Bro wants a yandere gf 💀 Calm down this aint anime. Someone crazy about you will also be the end of you. Look at someone else and your body is in a river
you'll notice how the things he requested became other things as soon as he was frustrated with her. takes care of herself > plays dress-up traditional woman > gold digger this is inherent to the tradwife issue. being a loving supporter to your partner, prioritizing your lifestyle and your children - these aren't anti-feminist. but when you _identify_ yourself with "traditional womanhood," you're introducing yourself to men like this, who will recharacterize the relationship in order to shame and punish you when they're angry. plenty of people who end up financially dependent on abusers can attest to this behavior - their partner will accuse them of being a freeloader for not being able to contribute financially. they will insult and downplay the work their partner puts into the relationship by saying it's natural behavior, part and parcel with maintaining the home, or the least they can do when they don't contribute financially. glad this guy demonstrated exactly who he was from the jump.
There's nothing wrong with a traditional setup, but you are right that some people jump straight into it without knowing their partner, and it's harder to get free if you don't have a career to fall back on. I think this is why traditional relationships usually had extended courting periods, and having to pass the scrutiny of other friends and family. Those who care about us tend to be more discerning of character because they aren't blinded by hormones.
You're very much so right on the money. I've seen that shit firsthand a hundred times. And yeah being anti-feminist would be saying women have to be whatever you want them to be. If you want to be a home maker and not work and your partner agrees to that then you can in fact still be a whole feminist so long as you think other women shouldn't be forced to adhere to that traditional role. It doesn't meant you have to be ANTI-homemaker to be feminist it just means you understand and respect that women and people in general should be free to fill whatever traditional or non-traditional role they like without being forced into a box. Be whatever you want live however you want so long as you're not hurting anyone or forcing a set standard on others outside of basic decency.
Those podcasters aren't actual alpha males. We don't realize it ourselves, but other people notice that when an alpha male walks into a room, there's an air of tacit reverence among the onlookers. That's one of the trademark qualities of being an alpha male: the ability to walk into any room, social setting, or situation and be in complete control of things such that everybody else defers to you and even joins your side for protection.
Here's the thing, don't ask for a traditional wife if you're not going to be a traditional husband. The same applies on the other end of the spectrum here don't ask for a traditional husband if you're not going to be a traditional wife. The problem in this scenario though was the fact that the dude just wanted to be careful like he was still a child, and yet still do things that adults do, but yet didn't want to actually be the other half of the role that comes with being a traditional family. I'm sure y'all don't need a lengthy description like I've known for doing unfortunately, so I won't bore you guys with a paragraph, lol. Overall though, people sometimes are just wanting Maids that help with bills, and they should be avoided at all costs. They're not worth while, they're narcissistic and self-centered, and they're not going to put themselves out at all for the sake of the family, only for themselves.
I'm still in shock with how lovely and patient this woman was towards this guy even after he called her all possible names. She deserves way better than this.
The really messed up part is, there's plenty of men (myself included) who would love that arrangement, but you can't even do that with a middle-class income in most parts of the developed world. Isn't it so nice that our grandparents and their parents sold our future for a cushy retirement?
It's so fucking funny that he says that "emotionally stable, takes care of herself, good with kids" are inherently female traits, like he's implying that emotional stability and taking care of yourself are unreasonable expectations for a man lmao
In his defense… he’s living proof that it’s something a lot of men struggle with. And I’m saying that _as a man_, who is both emotionally unstable and bad at taking care of himself. It would definitely help if things like therapy, self awareness, and “having emotions on the outside”, weren’t seen as emasculating by some people.
@@MigattenoBlakaeright!!! These “alphas” spread rhetoric about men that says showing feelings brings about femininity and make them “weak.” They tell other men to take out their frustrations on women and it just makes the division between women and men worse. Not only this, but they NEVER advise their viewers to get therapy. Instead, they gotta invest in bitcoin or pay thousands of dollars to be in a discord server… how does that help men??? I’m so tired of bs..
To be fair the “traditional lifestyle” is dead. Bc you can’t simply support two people let alone a family, afford two cars, and a family home off one salary unless it’s $250,000+. (Which is like 1% of jobs). It’s not the 60’s anymore. What IS realistic is a hybrid lifestyle. Both work and BOTH help out with cleaning and parenting, maybe live in an apartment.
A strange but related side note. I use to work in drug rehabilitation and when people (usually women) who are expected to take care of the kids, work, handle the home and finances, they turn to substance abuse. It is TERRIFYING the statistics on parents (again, usually mothers) that are abusing methamphetamines.
I just read a comment that said it wasn't bc she paid, apparently its because he tried to order her food for her and she turned it down bc of allergies, which is an even more pathetic reason to get "humiliated" 😂
@@cptteacosy6158 Who the fuck orders for someone else on their first date if they don't even know them, what they like or can't/won't eat lmao. The first date is literally there to get to know eachother. Making decisions for a stranger you don't know (yet) sounds like a huge red flag.
@@cptteacosy6158 bro is embarrassing. Doesn’t complain about his bill being paid but calls her a gold digger, and mad he can’t order her food like she’s a kid
@@CassCat69 I refuse to believe this isn't ragebait. If it's not, he's definitely a manchild, she's definitely a gold digger, and the comments here make me lose faith in humanity.
i think people like this guy don’t see housework and childcare as work, but they absolutely are. Thats part of the deal of one partner staying at home.
yes, i saw a video is a lady whose husband called useless because she doesnt do anything and she decided not to clean the house for 2 days and it was a whole mess
not only is it work, it's important work!! Like jesus christ, how do people still not realize that taking care of children is like... literally one of the THE most important jobs there is?! Having a parent (or two, if you're really lucky) that cares about you and puts serious & consistent effort into your development gives you the biggest possible advantage in life imaginable. I really don't think I can overstate how important it is, and yet so many act like it's easy or not important :/
They don't want a traditional wife, they want some weird trad wife/progressive career woman hybrid type wife. Which is impossible. You can only have one, unless you want the poor woman to have a mental breakdown.
She needs to have a good paying job that can pay for his hobbies but also be willing to quit her job at the drop of a hat to take care of the kids and clean the house but also be willing to resume her job again at a moment's notice while also taking care of the kids by remote working and part timing but also quit again when he needs an outlet for his libido to be his personal on-call sex doll but also work again because he needs money but also quit when
The weirdest thing is that when they somehow find that one in a million woman who'll pay for them and even do house chores, they still manage to mess up, because of their ego 😂. I've known many women who ended up being cheated on, because apparently the husbands can't take that their wifes are earning more money, cause it makes em feel self-conscious about not being the bread winners
Woman who are married and who experience what he describes, being a trad wife and a working woman end up getting divorced because they are expected to do everything. Those woman describe their situation as being single married woman. It is nice though that she knows this upfront about this guy, she saved herself a lot of headache.
It also sets you up for financial abuse. And really any kind of abuse. Because it's a lot harder to leave if you don't have an income. Especially if you haven't worked in say 10 years... Now you have a 10 year gap on your resume. How will you ever support yourself, or kids if you have them? Oh but of course, if you ask for alimony or child support people think you're evil and "stealing" his money. Even though he never would have gotten so far in his career if you weren't supporting him, and you intentionally quit your job just so you could support him. But apparently his money is his and you were just working unpaid for all that time..
"He wanted an unpaid maid, nanny, sex worker who also works another job and pays his bills. God I hate that" Well he can want any crazy non-existent thing he can dream up but it's not happening because it's not possible. I think you'd need three wives for this. Two of them are high income earners who for some reason don't mind paying everyone else's bills. One of them is a superhuman homemaker tradwife. Even then, you can't have children with all of them because the tradwife isn't going to be able to raise that many children (most of whom aren't hers) while also cooking cleaning for four adults and three sets of children. God the more I think about this the more I see how totally unsustainable it is to have just one person be a totally useless lump.
I love how emotional stability is an inherently female trait to these kinds of people, but at the same time, women are these crazy hysterical creatures that can’t control their emotions. Which one is it, then?
Isn't that strange....because not so many moons ago he would have signed his wife up for a lobotomy... over her "emotions" or anything else he decided.
I think it was a Freudian slip letting her know he's emotionally unstable. Not the only thing Freud studied that could be applied to this guy, he's looking for a mother not a partner.
The woman handled it absolutely like a boss IMHO. I don't agree with the concept of "tradwife", in today's world, with the costs of living and all it's almost and impossible thing, but if that's her goal, she's absolutely nailed it with her responses and all without losing her sh*t....
This is the part of the whole "trad-wife" thing I don't get. If you want a stay-at-home wife/girlfriend, you HAVE to be providing for that lifestyle. That means working your ass off. And if you're willing to do that, because that's what you want, then more power to you. But the expectation that your partner will never want anything is absolutely insane. Get a sexbot if that's what you're looking for.
The 'trad-wife' community and the 'red-pill' community are two completely different groups. I find it funny how much the red-pill talks highly about trad-wives while all of the trad-wives would hate their guts for promoting male sexual promiscuity while at the same time insulting and degrading women for even daring to have premarital sex with any man other than himself. The man from that text conversation clearly watches so much red-pill content that it rotted his mind to mush.
Plus what i dont get, in this economy most of the time it requires both people to have a job to survive especially when you have kids but when both you and your wife work an 8 hour shift you can't expect her to do all the chores take care of the kids etc. thats why the whole Trad wife thing is retarded and all people over the age of 14 should realize that
This one was just painful. He literally had it in the bag and still had to go full entitled incel and absolutely fumble it lol The thing about these guys is they basically want a mom who will take care of them and their home but they refuse to return the favor. It’s like if you want this “trad wife” who’s gonna do all that you better be bringing A LOT to the table for them too.
@@musclegeek1991Not really. Despite the trad wife being kind of outdated, healthy relationships can still be maintained from it and many people do. I don’t see the red flag in the beginning but as Charlie said, to have a trad wife, he’d need to be a trad husband because the relationship just wouldn’t work. He basically wanted a parent instead of a wife would provide everything for him which was the wrong part but trad families are pretty common and healthy
@@gigamad1729 he had already shown her on the first date that he wasn’t capable of supporting the trad wife he wanted, because she had to pay for dinner. She was mocking him, 100%
I knew a guy like this. Had a laundry list of requirements (not just preferences) he was looking for in a partner. When I asked him what he had to offer in return, his answer was… “loyalty”. Just loyalty. He didn’t have a high paying job, nor did he even have his own place, but the cherry on the top was him insisting that he’d want his future wife to sign a prenup so she couldn’t just decide one day she’d prefer alimony over her marriage. Because apparently women just spontaneously do that. According to the bitter divorced men he’d heard of. Nooo, these men hadn’t done anything to push their ex-wives away, they were saints. Unthinkable that might be the case. They were just victims of these women who got bored of marriage and cashed in one day. One requirement on his laundry list was that his partner could never have been engaged before, let alone actually married ‘cause “they’d made their decision”. Tough luck if their partner turned out not to be who they thought… like being abusive. It just demonstrated a lack of loyalty for leaving a relationship like that, of course 🚩🚩🚩
There is nothing wrong with wanting a traditional relationship. But if you want a tradwife, you need to be a tradhusband. And as a tradhusband your role is to be the provider of the family, which quite literally means you are paying for the entire family, including your wife
@@zammmerjammeryep lol that’s exactly how my parents were. Dad makes the money, mom pays bills, grocery shops, and does taxes. That shit got old and stale though because that’s not economically feasible for the working class anymore.
@@adambednarek2007 I mean, the economy was fucking great. I'd love to have the 50's economy along with the modern-day embrace of human diversity. But yeah, most people who wax poetic about that time are waxing poetic about the shitty social values of the time, too.
A lot of newer relationships share the responsibility of laundry, cleaning the house, taking care of the children and working. He wants all of that but also not to share any of the house work. What a piece of garbage.
One of the reasons traditional housewives just aren’t as common anymore is because the cost of living is so expensive that both parties now have to work. So if you’re asking for a traditional housewife it’s implied that you’re well off financially. If you can’t even pay the bill to take her on a date, you’re in no position to ask her to be a traditional housewife.
also too women know now that its p scary to be fully financially dependent on a man who can dump u at any time (before u say alimony, its a lot less common than youd think)
This is very true, you need a reasonably good job if you want to fully commit to that lifestyle. It's so sad that the economy is ruining these kinds of relationships
@@cat_clan_leader another major reason is that women know it’s very risky to rely on a man financially so even without the economy it would be decreasing
@@Kittenlover113355 then that's the man's fault for pushing for a relationship he can't support. If you can't support that kind of relationship, then pick another one. It's really only fitting for guys who know the system and are equipped for a moderately well paying job, but then then not all of them want a trad relationship anyways, so it becomes even more rare
It's doable on single income if he makes over the high $80k range. Also, not live in any major city or suburb. But the relationship has to be based off of being best friends, partner, consultant, etc.. You have to be really happy and enjoy your life together to make that life work in digital age.. NOTHING is easy to hide anymore, that trust better be cranked all the way to 100%...
That guy wants a slave not a wife. He wants her to not only do all the house chores, care for the kids, and have to go out and work he wants her doing 3 times the physical labor he does. Disgusting
Extra info from her comments on Reddit: 1. he got drunk on their date 2. SHE paid for their date, because he “forgot his wallet” 3. he snapped at the server to call them over, then proceeded to “order for her” (…i bet he read a book about how men are meant to lead or something), but chose something she’s allergic to (ROFL). then got put out by her having to change her order (guess his little experiment “leading” didn’t go so well lol)
That third thing was from a red pill Podcaster lmao. There's a video where he uses his "wife" as an example and basically treats her like a pet, leading her into the restaurant, ordering for her, making sure she's not looking at other guys just passing by, etc. His main "advice" on being an "alpha" is ordering food for the woman. It's so sad tbh. The guy in this post probably follows red pill podcasts and things of that nature. The girl in this post was saved by the grace of God - or knew during their date and made the most Chad play she could think of to expose this clown.
Idk if I can believe all of this because that sounds like a terrible first date and I can't fantom why the woman would still be receptive to him as she was at the start of the texts if he already showed this kind of behavior.
Same. I really dislike being near children for any length of time. Just don't know how to handle them. Its nothing against children, I just don’t know how to take care of them, and feel no urge to learn beyond basics. If the kid can't tell me what it needs, it shouldn't be left in my care. No "mothering instinct" has ever existed in me.
I saw this post on Reddit. The whole “humiliation” situation was because he’d tried to order for her…and she refused what he’d tried to order because she was allergic to it. I assumed it was because of money at first, but she’d explained it was over his order for her. She was the one to foot the bill though.
its so odd that he literally found a woman that was ok with pumping out babies and doing chores her whole life and somehow managed to still get mad at her for asking for the bare minimum of being financially stable
That's why I stop engaging in a conversation with a guy whenever he mention " I want a traditional wife", it's not wrong to want one but there's always a price for what you want and usually those guys aren't willing to pay for that.
these are my favorite...the convos that start out with so much potential, then just completely take a nose dive out of the blue because the most miniscule reason ever
Charlie, it’s much more simple than that. The problem is that she expressed preference in her spouse at all, instead of just being a pile of goo for him to mold. He’s allowed to have an idea of who he wants, but he never expected she might also want her spouse to have any specific trait. That makes her too human and not just “a female”. She could’ve expressed any preference and she would’ve received the same response.
On the nail. Guys like him basically want they're wife to not want or want the opposite of what the man wants so that the man can feel like the one with power. Basically he's in control and she follows. Her showing enthusiasm for the role he expects of her ruins the power fantasy.
I mean to be fair she was totally baiting him. Her response was not legitimate. You can tell because it was formatted like 1 to 1 in the same way that he stated his preference. She was mocking him. Which is fine lol, he deserves to be mocked. But her response definitely had the same energy as when a woman asks me how tall I am and I reply by asking how much she weighs. 😂
Right on. He's a narc, looking for a woman who will just be an extension of himself and not be an individual with a secure identity. It's a curse that means he will never enjoy true love or friendship.
As someone not particularly emotionally-mature, the fact this guy had an opportunity to get together with someone who seems like a great partner only to ruin it by having a meltdown about how he wanted to sit there like a brick on a couch doing nothing is straight up hilarious.
I feel like it´s his first time really thinking about how much it costs to have traditional family...he was just having this vision that he doesn´t have to cook and clean anymore :D
Which is funny considering how he expected to make so much off his eventual compsci degree. If you’re not going to use that money for expenses and your girl then wtf is that money for? You just gonna hoard that money while your girl works, cleans, and raises the kids? The fuck? From my experience, people like this usually don’t do well in the compsci field. They’re too opinionated and struggle with any new things or changes in a field that is always changing and advancing. These people usually don’t make it passed the trial period if they even make it through the interview. Plus getting that degree will require hard work which the guy doesn’t seem to be interested in doing. The field has become pretty competitive so you’ll definitely want a masters to guarantee a good job and paycheck in compsci. Which is even more hard work.
Ye this guy is an idiot, I don't have problems w modern women but my preference on Avg is for them to be traditional, the main problem isn't that distinction it's the fact that I feel some 'trad wives' just want to sit on their ass and do nothing and some modern women want to make their life more about their career than a family, I have a problem w both, at least ik a traditional wife will want a family and kids and shit (if a man likes those traits and wants them for it all power to them, but both people in it need to put in work and accept the responsibilities they have within those relationships) , another issue is the modern cost of a relationship which is insane if you really want to have a traditional relationship you should be able to have one not 2 college degrees barely paying a mortgage and not even that only rent nowadays. There should be an option.
Nothing wrong with wanting a traditional wife if you are willing to be a traditional husband. This dude has double standards out the wazoo, that girl sounds super chill and cool and I'm sorry she had to deal with that. Hope she moves on to better things and I hope he reevaluates himself.
I went into this thinking "well he's not wrong to want to have that and she seems cool with it" and then...he fucked it up with that double standard shit.
She sounds selfish ash, make HER house a home, while working on HERSELF, while he takes care of HER. That ain't traditional. That's modern simping that ain't how your great great great grandmother was tf. This shii is acceptable?I always wondered why older men like my uncle's would steer us away from marriage. I'm older now and it makes sense. To what man does this shii sound good?? What does the guy get cause nothing in her response equated to anything other than herself.
I actually dug through the comments on that thread and the 'humiliation' was even worse. He apparently ordered for her and she was allergic to what he ordered on her behalf so she changed it to something she could actually eat. The flags were there from the beginning.
Basically he freaked out at the suggestion that she also has expectations of him and that he would also have responsibilities in a relationship like this.
So he wants a 'traditional' woman who will cook, clean the house, care for her looks, be there for his every whims and desires, and do every grueling thing involved in raising kids BUT ALSO to top it off he wants her to have a job to help pay the bills? Jesus Christ, thinking about that schedule makes my head hurt and body ache.
He wants a woman who gives endless emotional and physical labor to him and the kids, and then also earn money working outside the home, all the while looking like model. Im so glad Im single and never married.
It's sad that some women(and sometimes men) are in that exact scenario right now. Because their partner didn't show their true colors after they had kids together, and as soon as the kids were born their partner just decided they were not gonna take care of the kid at all. So one of them has to go to work, and take 100% full care of the kid, and sometimes are also expected to do most of the homechores too... While the other "partner" comes home and plays Xbox for hours or watches TV and goes to sleep. Typically when the lazy one is the husband it's because he wants the appearance of being a dependable married man with kids. Married men with kids more often get promotions because it makes them look better in the eyes of colleagues and bosses. We live in a fake world truly where being a straight up liar manipulator is rewarded.
It's insane to me that a lot of men want an equal earning wife who ADDITIONALLY takes care of the kids, and him, and looks perfect while doing it. Like, imagine if the roles were reversed. That's not fair.
the thing is she doesn't expect him to be insanely rich, she just expects him to have a job, but god forbid he lifts a finger to help provide for his family
my favourite part is the saying of "emotionally stable, takes care of themself, good with kids", then calling them female traits, does he think men are supposed to be aggressive, dirty, and bad with children? i feel like these are the same guys who will unironically call people "fatherless" for doing stuff they dont agree with
@@FGL_Apex maybe thats because women are pushed into that role more so they have to be more nurturing, or there are more expectations and learning for women around that role, idk though, just a thought.
@@FGL_Apex On the one hand I'm sure biologically there are some factors at play but I think the biggest thing here is centuries of gender roles having been enforced. A lot of people just don't know any better bc it's what society has always taught us, and the shitty part is that bc of that, ppl like the dude from the video use it as an excuse to completely push those kinds of roles onto women and expect them to do all the work when it comes to taking care of kids, maintaining the house, etc (works this way for guys too, mind you, with society teaching them they need to be "strong" and "aggressive" and preferably not show too many emotions bc it's feminine, etc..) Not the case for everyone of course but yeah, there's so much conditioning done by society to have made us what we are today tbh
@@FGL_ApexIt's mostly a societal thing, how boys and girls are encouraged to have certain traits (sometimes forced) and gender roles and traditional family structures where the mother raises the children mostly on her own and the father is in there ocassionally. Of course kids will be closer with their mom that way, it doesn't mean 'women are naturally more nurturing' or anything, women are just made to embrace and enhance that side of themselves, and men are made to suppress it.
@@Hello-hello-hello456it's not though, it's predominantly biology. Look at the animal kingdom and you see the same thing with nurturing mothers, are you going to tell me that's because of forcing them into gender roles too? Not everything is due to gender roles. Some of our traits are just biologically predetermined.
@@FGL_ApexI’m a guy working with very young kids-pre k-, and have come to believe these roles are completely cultural. I see boys hugging, playing with skirts, plush dolls, dancing, while also enjoying superheroes and trucks. There are girls who like to build, couldn’t care less about taking care of anything, and would rather dress as Spider-Man then a princess. I think you’re missing the point. Women *seem* like they’re more nurturing because that is the role they’re taught to fill. Before this stuff is pushed onto kids, they don’t magically conform to these roles, or even know they exist. They just do whatever they want until someone reinforces or discourages certain behavior.
they want someone to take care of the kids but also contribute to the bills.. how does one work while also providing childcare during the day? The math aint mathin.
she was too nice to him, definitely didn't deserve "have a good life". He said "fuck you" 2 or 3 times and called her a bitch. but she made up for it by posting the screenshots lol
And I don’t think she was even gonna do it until he came in with that cringe ass 1 in the morning booty call 😂 Dude 100% deserves the roasting he’s getting now
My man had a chill women who was into the exact same lifestyle as him, yet fell to pieces when she had the same expectations for him as he had for her. That's some next level fumble right there
No because he didn’t just expect her to cook the bacon, but to bring it home as well. Classic modern man who wants a trad wife but not the responsibility of a trad husband
@@goomba8170 I couldn't afford a trad wife, so I'm not looking for a trad wife. If I could I might. But you also need to be able to fullfil your end of the bargain.
@@goomba8170I think it's a combo of how genz men are basically all virgins, not to diss them I'm a Virgin too but none of them know how to talk to women or how a health relationship should pan out cause they've never been in one.
I hate how today it's completely normal for a man to say he wants a trad wife, but if a woman says she wants a traditional man she's automatically a gold digger. It works both ways, my lovelies.
I’m also positive that they call women who want traditional men gold diggers because they’re not traditional themselves most of the time, I’m talking about the women
or, perhaps, it should work neither way? I mean obviously everyone should pursue the romantic partners that they personally are into, but generally I think the solution to men being shitty isn't for women to start acting shitty too, but rather for men to stop acting poorly for once. Otherwise, it's just a race to the bottom (and not in the fun, ski race kind of way)
@idontwantahandlethough It’s not wrong or awful for men to ask for a traditional wife. In fact, I have maaany friends who are independent and strong women while at the same time WANTING to be traditional wives. If women can ask for men who financially support them (which many do), then men can ask for a traditional wife (because many women want to be that for men).
This is hilarious, dude basically is just admitting he wants a sex servant and doesnt take into consideration that he would in fact have to cover all of her living expenses
He never once said he wanted her to be a stay at home wife… you can be a traditional relationship whilst both parties working. I would know I’m in a traditional relationship and we have a 4 year old. She goes to school while we work. She cooks while I play with our daughter and during the weekend she cleans inside while I do the yard work outside. Perfectly 50/50 whilst being traditional
Wanting a traditional home life is fine. What’s weird is wanting a traditional housewife but then not wanting to provide for her. She didn’t even make a statement about income, he just pulled that out of nowhere
Seriously, the LEAPS this man took just to be shitty to someone he went on ONE date with. I hope he grows tf up, or failing that, women run for the hills at the sight of him.
