DYNO TESTING APR PLUS STAGE 1 IN MY VW MK8 GTI!!! 

A little cold air, low DA, at sea level and some of that tasty corn juice helped spice things up! Solid numbers!

You're very welcome! Thanks for watching.

Thanks for watching!

Enjoy only ever going Stage 1 though

@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju TCU is uncrackable ....stage 1 low torque for us GOLF R DSG guys😪

Thank you very much!!!

I really appreciate you saying that. I put a MASSIVE amount of effort into providing step by step, detailed and accurate data to everyone wanting to purchase software or hardware on any of the builds I have done over the past 5 years.

I was too! Very impressive stuff.

Thank you

Thank you

Thanks Lee!

Me either!

Thanks! I'm super excited to see how all the other tunes compare to this one too!

And now Paul Jr has taken the reigns!

No problemo. As shown in my most recent fuel comparison video, our local fuel is WAY better than it used to be.

Ya, it's going be exciting to now see how well all the other tunes do in comparison to this one.

Yea im super pumped to see you doing all this cause i was leading towards 023 cause they require a downpipe for a stage 2 which is more traditional.. But i also read the mk8 has a bigger stock downpipe and thats why apr doesnt really call for one from my understanding which tbh would be sick if it really can run reliability on stage 2 with stock downpipe.Heard so many bad stories of shops fuckking up downpipe installs @@VancityAudi

​@dylan4119 not sure you've been informed correctly on that topic. APR stopped offering Stage 2 tunes years ago. They don't offer tunes that run and support modified performance exhausts due to wanting to comply with emissions. According to the other companies out there, you'll get more power out of an upgraded downpipe on a Stage 2 tune. When you said 023, I'm assuming you meant 034? I'm planning on testing the differences in performamce downpipes as well as the companies software offerings at those power levels.

Now putting that power down is the problem!

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93 gas is better on the engine. 87 causes more wear n tear. Some people say 93 gives better mpg but idk bout that. I have a 2021 Jetta gli and I ran both 87 and 93 and the responsiveness is much better and offers less tear in the engine.

​@ballinshotcollin23 please provide me any real evidence that 87 octane fuel causes more wear & tear. I don't believe that for a second. Perhaps more carbon build up, but that's about it. Premium fuel does not get any better mileage innthis platform. I've already tested that on this car.

@@ballinshotcollin23 wrong lol

By making those direct comparisons you're forgetting that every dyno reads differently. I made these power figures in very cold, dense air and at sea level like I mentioned in the video. You're also making the assumption that this car suffers from a 20% drivetrain loss. I'm willing to bet it is absolutely nowhere near 20% in a modern day FWD/DSG car. I'd put it at 10% or even less. Cars are MUCH more efficient than they used to be.

​@@VancityAudiI think I factored in 17%, but if the 10-11% from the RS3 is any indication then the GTI likely is similar. So roughly 367 crank, which is still great. I think the MK7R on APR 93 was advertised as 370hp and 380tq crank.

​@scottc78 my bad. Even 17% is way higher than you'd see in my opinion. With the RS3 being around 10%, this would be even lower. There is no power going through a driveshaft to the rear tires on this car, meaning it would suffer less drivetrain loss than the RS3

Why didn’t you go with the 93 octane? Is it tough to find in your area?

Nice! The best mileage I've seen with my GTI is 35mpg from straight highway cruising, and that was when it was stock.

2019 GLI full bolt on with EQT, this car still can get good mpg for the power it has. I don't know what is different from the gti but the 2022/2023 advertises 37 mpg on hw but ours 2019 advertises 32/34? Well that's a nice MK8 with light wheels, I'm at 100k miles debating on a upgrade bit boy I don't want to do another intercooler swap.

​@jorgerojas3424 the 2019 VW GLI comes with the EA888.3 and the 2023 GTI comes with the EA888.4. It's extremely similar, but not identical. Just the newer generation of the same motor layout. I would imagine slightly more efficient and definitely makes more power.

You won't have to wait long for that exact comparison! I'll be doing a direct dyno comparison very soon!

Sorry, I won't be sharing any logs with the public. That would be super rude of me and unfair to all of the companies that have put in a TON of time, money and effort creating their software offerings. Sadly IE didn't provide me an exact answer on why. I'm sure eventually they'll come out with something though!

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be rude, it would be nice to know if there's more timing correction one tune to another, don't even need to mention total correction. That's not a knock on the tuning company, I've loaded multiple tunes on the same car same fuel over the years and there can be differences and most of the time determines what I run long term.

​@oemtam neither was I! Haha. You can never tell tone via text. I totally get what you're saying but I won't be sharing logs or details on any of their software. They each put in a ton of money into making their software so I'm not about to go and share all of the details on how their software actually works. I'll continue showing my boost gauge so you guys can see the boost levels but that's about it.

I responded to your DM

I would if I could, but I can't. Track doesn't open for another 3 months, lol. By that time, I'll be at a much higher power level hopefully.

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There were little to no corrections running the 87 octane tune with 87 octane fuel. The graph would have been higher with a slight gain in whp & wtq, but the graph wouldn't have been any smoother. I proved this with the last run I performed.

They don't have the capability of tuning Mk8's yet with the Ultralink. It's coming eventually, but it's not available yet.

@VancityAudi I think they have it out now on apr website

​@philliprollman7421 unless this was released last week, their website isn't correct. I literally just spoke to them about it not being available for the Mk8 GTI platform yet.

@VancityAudi ok thanks I'm going to reach out too them and see if it's available because i got a email from them a few days ago about the ultralink being available but I will double check.

​@philliprollman7421 good luck! I know when it is available for Mk8's I'll be using it myself too.

I wouldn't be surprised for the JB4 to make the same power in these weather conditions as the 87 octane tune did. The JB4 was tested in significantly warmer weather.

@VancityAudi yah but isn't jb4 pushing more boost basically the 87 octane is the "meh" tune in my opinion vs jb4 baller 93 tune

​@dakotajones8010 not sure what you mean. Like I said in the video, I would have absolutely gone with the APR PLUS Stage 1 91 Octane Low Torque file right off the bat and skipped JB4 if I knew then what I know now

@@VancityAudi you couldve asked ur viewers, shit im sure several ppl would help including me im an autistic wealth of car knowledge

​@dakotajones8010 you knew that if I used a JB4, I couldn't then tune with APR PLUS software? You'd be one of the few that knew that. I did ask around. People said it was fine because it wasn't a tune.

Every time I've rested it locally, it has been between 7.5 & 10%

As shown in this video, the car doesn't require any additional hardware to run this software. I'm not sure APR has the software available for a 2024 yet though. I'd reach out to them to confirm.

As long as I can put the power down! Lol

@@VancityAudi Yea from a dig you need some good radials for sure. I think you got upper 11s in it as is with a good hook

​@@mqbr22 radials aren't even close to enough. I'll need slicks

Please watch the DISCLAIMERS portion of the video below to get a better understanding of why you shouldn't be comparing dyno figures like you're suggesting: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JKB73iMNnXY.html

Literally searched APR Plus Limited Warranty on Google, and this was the second result, lol. APR Plus www.goaprplus.com › ...PDF APR Plus Terms and Conditions v2.1 It's a PDF doc that won't link correctly in this comment, but just Google it and it's there.

@@VancityAudi thanks for the help

These are Dynojet dyno numbers. The ones before were Mustang dyno numbers.

Thanks for the reply. Crazy how much difference the mustang Dyno is. I am getting the 91 tune within the next two weeks and wanted to know what to expect. I appreciate it!

@@LoggusDoggus I stopped showing the Mustang dyno numbers in my videos because the general public couldn't wrap their heads around how much less power those figures showed. They always assumed something was wrong with my car, lol. Not realizing that all dynos read differently. Especially between the different dyno brands.

I provided that information in the video.

I was showing Mustang dyno numbers in that video. In this video I'm showing the Dynojet calibration numbers, seeing as they're closer to what is seen on APR's dyno.

According to what I know, it would have to be an APR exhaust to be eligible to run their APR PLUS.

@@VancityAudi I read the terms and conditions and they mention downpipes but not catbacks.

​@basslover352 nice! You should be in luck then! Catback exhausts just change the sound anyways. They don't change the performance.

Hopefully next week!!!

@VancityAudi looking forward to it!

What are you referring to?

@@VancityAudi cause I saw the lil orange lights on do those stay on after the tune is done

​@fxcet8361 ohhhhhh, lol. Those lights are on the dash because the car is in dyno mode. When driving on the street, none of those lights are on.

As I explained in the video both my car and the APR stock Mk8 GTI on their in house dyno made virtually the exact same power. I also explained in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-csg_qukwA9A.htmlsi=6TUnH_zi71VoRJaV at the 1:50 mark how stock Mk8 GTI's on 4 different company's dynos read from 223whp - 260whp in their completely stock form. These cars are very unrated for power from the factory as shown by multiple dyno results from multiple companies.

Absolutely. I've already proven that in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-StnFgrrNJ8k.htmlsi=H1xLjv08Wees0Rs4

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@@VancityAudi legend bro thank you I can’t wait to do that to my mk8

A 93 octane tune doesn't come with APR PLUS as an option. I highly encourage everyone to use their 91 octane option to keep a powertrain warranty if they're worried about losing their warranty from the factory.

Incorrect. There are Stage 2 options as well. This is shown on their website: www.goapr.com/products/software/ecu_upgrade/gasoline/4/20t_ea888_g4/parts/ECU-20T-EA888-4-LK2

Correct!

I covered that in the video

@@VancityAudi Sorry I see that now. I am a guilty jump-arounder. Kinda shocked you saw these gains with no TCU tune. Everyone tells me I need it or I will make nothing over stock :/

​@24Coup all good. Everyone you're talking to is a dumbass. You don't need a TCU to make more power. I made way more power than this in this video and I still don't have a TCU tune: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lTUH9yrH9SY.html

@@VancityAudi I want to throw 87 high torque tune on but I'm scared to throw a rod. That's so much more power than stock it's scary!

​@24Coup 😂😂😂 that's not a lot of torque. If you throw a larger turbo on these motors, you can safely make another 50wtq above what the 87 octane tune will make.

That's referring to a TCU tune.

@@VancityAudi so 2024 gti can get the 034 motorsport tune for ecu Van?

​@Osli1388 email or call them. Provide them your VIN and ask.

Than what the Mustang numbers read on this dyno, yes.

@@VancityAudi interesting, because Mustand Dyno’s are widely acknowledged as being the more reasonable reading dyno however, there are are several other factors that people almost never talk about such as corrected or uncorrected and the correction factor used. I can make a dyno say anything I want really. Sit on the weather station while doing a run and see what happens! Considering the factory Crank HP rating of the Mk8 GTi is 241 would it not stand to reason that perhaps making more WHP than the factory CHP rating would be a bit unreasonable? Yes, I know they’re “underrated” like EVERYTHING these days apparently. The reality of it is, they’re not underrated, they’ve fallen victim to the aftermarket’s desire to sell products by showing a big numbers. I see it all too often of people putting down insane numbers, so insane that they put down more power than the turbo is even capable of flowing, 450WHP from 300g/s of air mass, lol. What people should take away from this video is the percentage of power gain. That’s it. And I’m not saying that’s not impressive.

@@JordieG8 As much as I agree with you that people should be simply taking away the gains and not looking at the peak numbers being what they are (which is why I highlight the gains in the video), I disagree with almost everything else, lol. These numbers are uncorrected and that is why I mentioned the ambient conditions enabling the car to make massive power figures. I'll make sure to highlight that I showcase uncorrected numbers in the next dyno video on this Mk8 GTI. As I show in the video my car made virtually identical power figures when the car was stock, as APR did on their dyno with their stock Mk8 GTI. Not only that, I showed how much 4 different companies make on their own in-house dyno's on all their stock Mk8 GTI's to set their baselines power figures in this video at the 1:50 mark: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-csg_qukwA9A.html&ab_channel=VancityAudi They vary from 223whp to 260whp, a 37WHP DIFFERENCE! LOL. Those are STOCK Mk8 GTI numbers on a variety of different dynos from multiple different companies, in different environmental conditions, with different qualities of fuel and so on. As I'm sure you can agree, it would be to the companies advantages to claim their baseline numbers as lower numbers so that their tunes appear to make more power in terms of what they gain. As you can clearly see though they are all extremely high power figures when comparing what VW claims they make from the factory. This proves that this particular engine/transmission combo does make more than advertised by VW especially in the really cold air at sea level. Lastly, this dyno reads extremely low. If I showed the numbers I made via the standard Mustang calibration the general public wouldn't understand and be able to compare my power figures to anything else on the market (seeing as all of the companies out there show significantly higher baselines numbers) which then in turn throws everything out of whack for my comparisons.

😂😂😂 Helps to actually watch the video before making ignorant comments.