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Easy tuning with INAV | The Ez Tune 

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INAV get a new feature. It’s called the Ez Tune and it’s designed to greatly simplify the process of tuning your FPV drone with INAV 7. Instead of changing dozens of setting like PID gains, filter frequencies, etc., you have 8 sliders. Yes, it’s similar to Betaflight Simplified Tuning Sliders, but it’s more than that. It not only sets PID gains, but also multiple filters, rates and expo.
The Ez Tune will be available in INAV 7 that will be available in November 2023. All pilots are welcome to test the new feature and report their experience on INAV Discord server in #ez-tune channel.
INAV Discord / discord
0:00 What is INAV Ez Tune?
1:02 Where to find it and how to use it?
2:45 Ez Tune vs Betaflight Simplified Slider tuning
4:07 The pilot feedback is required
4:34 Outro
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@user-rl8ck2oq2x
@user-rl8ck2oq2x 7 месяцев назад
Let's just thank Pawel for what he is doing.
@Sonic_Ox
@Sonic_Ox 7 месяцев назад
The guy is a genius. And so generous with his expertise.
@materia79
@materia79 7 месяцев назад
Ez Tune is indeed the next level of tuning a Multi-Rotor. Big thanks to the INAV devs for this! Unfortunately the stick command menu is still showing PID tuning manipulation even after enabling Ez Tune on a Flight Controller. It would be better if Ez Tune would be configurable via the stick command menu instead when it has been enabled. It would make tuning your drone SO easy as you could just run through the tuning process without ever taking off your goggles or having to remove the battery and/or connecting your flight controller to a PC between every change.
@Videolinquency
@Videolinquency 7 месяцев назад
I used to configure flight controllers to be able to do the flying that I loved. Now I fly to be able to use the iNav features that I love. Thank you for what you do, and for keeping the hobby relevant!
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Very cool
@Tonynux
@Tonynux 7 месяцев назад
...and now we need a real example of tuning using blackbox and EZ Tune.
@adilsongoliveira
@adilsongoliveira 7 месяцев назад
One interesting thing that could be added is a selector to give a starting points based on the quad size. The presets now cover the majority of the builts with 3, 5 and 7" options but would be nice to be able to select 10, 12 or even larger frames.
@ghostdogfpv
@ghostdogfpv 7 месяцев назад
are you using inav7 on a large quad? i just configured my 10" with it and tomorrow will make a maiden flight and was wondering if you could share your eztune settings if you have such a big quad..
@ImperialArmour
@ImperialArmour 6 месяцев назад
I used the preset for 7" on my 8" and it flew better than betaflight defaults!
@sergiirizvan4669
@sergiirizvan4669 3 месяца назад
@@ghostdogfpv I am now in the process of setting up a 10-inch quad on Inav. Could you please share your eztune settings with me to start from something?
@petrweigl8282
@petrweigl8282 3 месяца назад
someone tried inav 7 with 12incher or bigger? need some advice where to start with pid tuning. P and D should go to bigger values and I to smaller? Is that true?
@ufuksandalci5188
@ufuksandalci5188 2 месяца назад
@@petrweigl8282I built a 15" and still fighting for the fast movement oscillations. The final values I am using are p=60 I=20 D=50 for roll and pitch, a notch filter for 45 hz. Higher I values almost always lead to oscillations where increasing P did not help. POSHOLD and angle modes are life savers.
@IanMacKenzie_IIsWe
@IanMacKenzie_IIsWe 13 дней назад
I'm excited to try this! I haven't flashed to iNav yet, was unsure about how to get it tuned. Now less worried!
@richardburrows1610
@richardburrows1610 7 месяцев назад
Was thinking of trying INAV, but will now do it for sure!
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
go for it
@RubyS.1
@RubyS.1 7 месяцев назад
One of the best parts of EZ tune is the description of what does what. Also really like the filter slider just makes it EZerrr
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
yeah, it for sure makes is simpler
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 7 месяцев назад
Brilliant, Pawel! Really interesting idea indeed! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Thank you! Will do!
@mab4195
@mab4195 7 месяцев назад
amazing! it 's what I was witing for!
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Glad to hear that!
@gabrielthecolorblindsoul6994
@gabrielthecolorblindsoul6994 3 месяца назад
Many thanks!
@dronauticaltech-fun3485
@dronauticaltech-fun3485 7 месяцев назад
Best Best Best🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥, INAV releases never disappoint, always gives new features in every releases😀😀. I just love it❤.
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Glad you like it!
@dronauticaltech-fun3485
@dronauticaltech-fun3485 7 месяцев назад
@@FPVUniversity not only like, I love it. Very simple to tune and many features, specially VTX power changing during flight is amazing I like that most 🔥🔥
@cesarcueva
@cesarcueva 2 месяца назад
Soy un entusiasta de los drones y mi primera barrera luego de aprender el armado y configuración, fue sin duda el "Tuning". Ésta nueva herramienta facilita ese engorroso episodio e incentiva a muchos a atreverse a volar en este apasionante mundo.
@teejay777
@teejay777 7 месяцев назад
This is great news! Ilove to try it!
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
remember it's still experimental
@cliffcosynerflight5253
@cliffcosynerflight5253 2 месяца назад
I have just use this function and amaze how easy to tune compare to the old PID method makes it more understandable for the rest of us . hope it works on fixwings and VTOLS as well
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 2 месяца назад
on fixed wings you have autotune, so it's a little different
@cliffcosynerflight5253
@cliffcosynerflight5253 2 месяца назад
@@FPVUniversity I only notice recently when applying it to an Align 480 Quad with 16" props . I have difficult using EZ tune to configure. and have to return to standard tuning process. how ever for small drones upto 250 mm 5" size works
@Rc.Clr4Tkf
@Rc.Clr4Tkf 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for the great work and progression of Inav, making it simpler. As I am a "Lame Duck" when it comes to understanding the logic that is encompassed within the architecture of tuning.... 🦆 "Quack... Quack... ~ All Smiles now"
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Glad to help!
@h2o40fpv
@h2o40fpv 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for this vidwo
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
My pleasure
@Mupshot
@Mupshot 5 месяцев назад
Giving it a try now. I converted my 7inch deadcat to INAV 7, where my intention was to load INAV 5.1 when I was planning the build. I had problems getting my walksnail working last March/April when INAV6 was released, so I put BF back on it and it flew fantastic on 4s and 6s. I would love to see a real demo on applying the easy tune sliders on a similar build.
@tachyonpost1472
@tachyonpost1472 7 месяцев назад
Great stuff man. Please make it available to OSD in-flight tuning of these 8 sliders/values. I hate fly, land , change, fly , land , change etc ;-) ;-)
@danjensen9425
@danjensen9425 7 месяцев назад
Looking forward to Inav 7 . Having issues with my S800 in Inav 6.1 I didn’t have any with my first S800 in Inav 5 it flew slow fast and very noticeable flight control between modes. Auto launch is a dive into the ground but could launch it without auto launch. No change in ailervons travel in modes. Acro angle horizon and manual all the same and when it gets in the air even though there is plenty of travel it won’t fly well unless I go fast. I’ll move the control horn rods for more travel and use stiffer rods before I shelve the build . One other person had same issues with same wing. Thanks for your efforts in being part of the Inav team.
@alexandrpanov9110
@alexandrpanov9110 7 месяцев назад
I think its a good step forward to do FPV user friendly. How ever, of course, we need to test it.)
@uavtech
@uavtech 7 месяцев назад
Good stuff. I'm working to code up two tweaks to make it perfect. 🙂
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Perfect! BTW, are you on INAV Discord?
@uavtech
@uavtech 7 месяцев назад
@@FPVUniversity yeppers! 🙂
@kikicwok
@kikicwok 7 месяцев назад
Keren mr pawel
@user-ez8kx3zw4g
@user-ez8kx3zw4g 7 месяцев назад
Great job! Wery hapy now. I always think that user not supposed to understand what is under hood. Now i'd like to see a bunch of presets for remaining 8 sliders. Something like 7 inch quad, 8 inch quad, and so on (i know, that is alredy here, when configuring from zero), and one more group of presets, ilke: aggresive, mild, full beginner, and so on. Like presets on equalizer on music players: rock, pop, classic. One more time: you are awesome!
@woutvanwetswinkel
@woutvanwetswinkel 5 месяцев назад
NEED TUTORIAL ON THIS ONE!!! 👀
@bertbeinaaf8314
@bertbeinaaf8314 7 месяцев назад
Looks like a great feature. Always struggled with some simple pid tuning. Just wonder if it works well for a 7” as for a tiny whoop? And it would be nice if the navigation mode parameters/tuning would be better documented
@thegps7197
@thegps7197 7 месяцев назад
Looks great, thanks. Does this work for planes aswell?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
only multirotors
@quetiano
@quetiano 7 месяцев назад
Excellent work ! My question is about custom frames/3d printed frames and using EZ Tune....I dont suppose EZ Tune will compensate for custom or 3d printed frames that are more flexible than carbon frames ?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Nothing is that advanced :) You have to find a good balance
@N8904V
@N8904V 5 месяцев назад
I implemented Easy Tune and it's wonderful. Way way easier...
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 5 месяцев назад
exactly!
@ImperialArmour
@ImperialArmour 6 месяцев назад
New INAV user here, I did miss the gyro calibration from betaflight. I didn't quite get a very good gyro setup in INAV and the angle mode didn't stabalise so well.
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 6 месяцев назад
I'm not sure what you mean? There is no gyro calibration procedure that user should do in either INAV or Betaflight
@importon
@importon 6 месяцев назад
Very cool! but what happened to your autotuning efforts?
@itzikronen5295
@itzikronen5295 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video and iNav work. Why is there no auto tuning process?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Because auto tunig on a quad is super hard. It's unstable by design and if autotune messes up anything, it will fail and crash
@fpvkabo
@fpvkabo 7 месяцев назад
pull in ardupilot auto-tune code for quads?
@NaiahYabes
@NaiahYabes 7 месяцев назад
I have a good understanding on all aspects of fpv drone except tuning. This helps a lot. Suggestion: auto tune? hehehe
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
if that was so simple :)
@NaiahYabes
@NaiahYabes 7 месяцев назад
@@FPVUniversity maybe at inav 10 hehe
@David-ty6my
@David-ty6my 6 месяцев назад
Is there a tutorial somewhere? With blackbox and stuff?
@user-en7oq7fo8m
@user-en7oq7fo8m 2 месяца назад
Hello friend, inav supports more sensors than betaflight. This is nice. Does the inav 7 version support the dshot esc protocol? If not, it would be better if it was added
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 2 месяца назад
yes, DSHOT works
@user-en7oq7fo8m
@user-en7oq7fo8m 2 месяца назад
@@FPVUniversity Then it's very good. When I go home, I will flash the esc software to my Inav 7 F4 motherboard. Is there a problem with bluejay? I changed the blheli s software to bluejay software.
@NaiahYabes
@NaiahYabes 3 месяца назад
how do I tune my Navigation PIDs when EZ tune is turned on?
@technicalsupport6983
@technicalsupport6983 7 месяцев назад
Is it similar tor auto tuning like ardupilot?
@naddwasdays9671
@naddwasdays9671 7 месяцев назад
plz add option in next firmware. Soft landing for beginners.
@Sleeperknot
@Sleeperknot 5 месяцев назад
I recently migrated from Betaflight to INAV7 and replicated the PID values, throttle limit (scale), and motor output limit settings from Betaflight. While these settings yielded excellent results in Betaflight, the same configuration in INAV7 caused serious control issues. The throttle stick became overly sensitive, making altitude control incredibly difficult. Additionally, the drone barely responded to sideways (pitch and roll) inputs in angle mode. Pitch and roll inputs in Horizon and acro modes exhibited exaggerated exponential responsiveness, leading to overall control responses that felt alarmingly unpredictable. Frustrated, I pushed through a few rounds of tuning, hoping for incremental improvements. Even though I managed some marginal improvements for the Angle mode experience, each tweak felt kind of insignificant, and the objective of replicating my Betaflight flight experience seemed to fade further with each attempt. Long story short, I am back in the Betaflight 4.5 firmware version, which fixed the GPS issue that was there in 4.4.3. Flying is fun, even though I miss the Alt-hold feature at times. I plan to re-attempt INAV7 tuning yet again when I will have more free time in the coming weeks.
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 5 месяцев назад
BF PIDs can not be migrated directly to INAV. Both PID controllers work in a different way. I have a viedeo about this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jgqjhSxd9EA.html
@Sleeperknot
@Sleeperknot 5 месяцев назад
@@FPVUniversity Thank you Pawel! Will check it out
@emmanuelsab1095
@emmanuelsab1095 7 месяцев назад
hello from france, im a beginner in flight controller and use Inav for wings, and betaflight for quad; why i do not know, i guess betaflight was more simple to use ; i was waiting for a new inav to swap all BF quad to Inav; i wait a little that you launch official inav 7 to to try; but well done! it smells very very very good. my main pb is to stop using horizon, switching to acro is far too difficult to master; any chance to get a parametric acro mode? i mean acro mode with a litlle "horizon mode" behind...able to make safer acro mode
@blueskyfpv
@blueskyfpv 5 месяцев назад
Hiya. Basically horizon mode in quads is 'acro with a little stability'. Learning to fly acro is not really that hard. You can easily get the basics in a few hours on a simulator (up/down, forward flight and basic turns). You don't need to become a full freestyle or racing pilot, but being able to fly acro will make you a much better pilot overall, and is well worth the effort. Coordinated turns, flips and flops and crazy moves take a bit more time to learn, if that is what you want. I learned to fly basic acro in an afternoon on a simulator. My first real flight after that was so much more fun and comfortable. I'd highly recommend learning to fly in acro mode sooner rather than later. You don't need to fly in acro mode all the time, but being able to is an important skill.
@Viseo3dp
@Viseo3dp 8 дней назад
what size motors should be used for inav 7.1 im having high throddle osolations with stock tune and my motors are rcn power smoox 6s 1880kv and i dont get it with 1750kv motors do you know why.
@aviphysics
@aviphysics 6 месяцев назад
RPM filtering needs a way to enable within eztune
@jackoneill8585
@jackoneill8585 7 месяцев назад
How bout automatic tuning just fly and enable it via switch etc it will hover do a test etc then save with no input from user
@crash_lander
@crash_lander 6 месяцев назад
Hello Mr. Pawel, I want to ask you, should I use INAV for autonomous micro quad build or should I go with arducopter? It looks like INAV has come a long way very quickly. Please let me know your opinion.
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 6 месяцев назад
INAV is much simpler to setup and flies as well. Sure it lacks some advanced features, but you need them only when you need them
@crash_lander
@crash_lander 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the opinion. I am very interested in autonomous flight. I want to learn about it and try it. Coming from betaflight background I feel INAV is a great platform to start. I want auto take off, perform autonomous waypoint mission and auto land at origin. I hope I can do this with INAV.
@nuddin99
@nuddin99 4 месяца назад
Is Ez Tune for quads only or can I use it for fixed wing as well? Thanks
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 4 месяца назад
it's for multirotors only. On fixed wings you have Autotune
@DugDiamond1
@DugDiamond1 7 месяцев назад
It would be nice to be able to custom assign motor positions 1, 2, 3, and 4 (and more) on multirotors, and their direction [as you can in BF and AP}
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
You don't need to change motor order. All you need is custom mixer and INAV has that for years now. Effect is exactly the same
@DugDiamond1
@DugDiamond1 7 месяцев назад
@@FPVUniversity a short video tutorial on how to do that would help 1000s
@senseisecurityschool9337
@senseisecurityschool9337 5 месяцев назад
​​@@DugDiamond1 Click on "mixer wizard". Choose whether motor 1 is mounted at the top right, the bottom left, etc. Continue in the same way, specifying the location where you mounted each motor. Then click Apply, then save. You're done. If you are using an INAV version before 7.1, do NOT expect the "mixer presets" illustration to change when you use the motor wizard. They are two separate things. The image shows what the preset will do if you load the preset.
@DugDiamond1
@DugDiamond1 5 месяцев назад
@@senseisecurityschool9337 - thank you for your reply. I have already tried this many times, and it does not work. The FC/ESC combo is a MAMBA F722 MK4 APP + 65ESC. The firmware installed is MAMBAF722_2022B (dec6 stable). The boards are rotated 180 degrees, so that the capacitor does not impede the air unit. I have since moved this build back to BF, and everything works great. I am currently making another INAV7.5LR quad with a different FC+ESC combo (iFlight Blitz F7 E55 Flight Stack) [currently in their chimera pro v2]. This time i will attach the motors whilst in the configurator, and wire accordingly. thanks again. happy new year.
@seregakriuk7954
@seregakriuk7954 Месяц назад
Добрый день. Помогите решить несколько проблем. Исходные данные: inav 7.1, 10 дюймов, режим круиз. 1) При опускании стика газа в 0 через 2-3 секунды моторы останавливаются. 2) при полете прямо с небольшой скоростью останов квадрокоптера происходит почти сразу, если максимально отклонить стик и разогнать до установленной скорости 40 км/ч, то при отпускании стика в ноль квадрокоптер продолжает лететь прямо и останавливать необходимо вручную. Как это побороть?
@aemarkov
@aemarkov 3 месяца назад
That's a great feature! But it's not clear for me how filter tuning works. EZ tune has only one filtering option: cut-off frequency. It looks like a LPF, but INav has a bunch of filters with different options: two LPF filters (with dynamic LPF option), Matrix Filter (2D/3D dynamic notch), Unicorn Filter (Kalman). How does the single slider work? I guess there are Matrix and/or Unicorn enabled by default with some typical settings and this slider configures LPF2. Or it's something more sophisticated?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 3 месяца назад
This one slider sets all the relevant filters based on predefined ratio. Once you enable ez tune and set main cutoff everything is handled. Imagine there is only one uber-filter and you set only this one
@nguyenducquocanh4341
@nguyenducquocanh4341 6 месяцев назад
Does it not work for Fixed wings? For example a fixed wing using the Matek F405 Wing FC?
@nguyenducquocanh4341
@nguyenducquocanh4341 6 месяцев назад
The last time I tuned my sailplane in iNAV 6, after autotuning, I flew again, select ANGLE mode and then then bird nose dived immediately from 50m to the ground in a couple of seconds. 😢
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 6 месяцев назад
No, it works only for multirotors
@rakr9334
@rakr9334 7 месяцев назад
can you use EZ Tune ans still apply your 'good-old' rates?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
There is a rates preview with EzTune
@GuyA
@GuyA Месяц назад
Is there an explanation somewhere what is each of them meaning?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity Месяц назад
In the Configurator itself all of the settings is nicely described with examples
@GuyA
@GuyA Месяц назад
@@FPVUniversity yes, thank you. this i saw. i tuned my 7" quad kind of good. but with some wind, there are twiches i cannot get out of the quad.
@FATSNAIL-FPV
@FATSNAIL-FPV 7 месяцев назад
discord link leads to an invalid invite on discord?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Hm, seems to be working. But which exactly? On release notes?
@FATSNAIL-FPV
@FATSNAIL-FPV 7 месяцев назад
@@FPVUniversity I clicked the link in the video description.
@BogHopperFPV
@BogHopperFPV 7 месяцев назад
Same link works for me
@FATSNAIL-FPV
@FATSNAIL-FPV 7 месяцев назад
@@BogHopperFPV cool. I'm the guy that always has trouble connecting to the wifi at work/school/etc. Must be me I guess 😂
@jelmerhemstra826
@jelmerhemstra826 7 месяцев назад
Add way to change these sliders in osd or wit a lua script (lua preferred!)
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Not yet
@WinstonSmith1984
@WinstonSmith1984 7 месяцев назад
Is it available in an app?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
what do you mean? In INAV Configurator? yes. Any other app?
@WinstonSmith1984
@WinstonSmith1984 7 месяцев назад
@@FPVUniversity i mean a mobile phone app
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
@@WinstonSmith1984 Speedybee App? It's managed by Speedybee
@SmudgeFPV
@SmudgeFPV 7 месяцев назад
so simple than BF
@MuhammadALI-bk8zi
@MuhammadALI-bk8zi 6 месяцев назад
Maybe next year the ez tune will be automatic
@Viseo3dp
@Viseo3dp Месяц назад
it needs presets tab that would complete inav 7.1 easytune is okay but no good enough
@Rothammel1
@Rothammel1 20 дней назад
you may have put a lot of work into it, but it doesn't work well. i have a 10" phantom 3 set up with speedybeef405mini. Toiletbowling on GPS position hold. Oscillation and a slow tuning. even pidtoolbox didn't help. then i installed ardupilot and the drone flew stock better than with INAV after hours of tuning. then autotune and now it flies better than the original phantom 3.
@Chillin-fpv
@Chillin-fpv 7 месяцев назад
Are you the creator of Inav?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
I'm the mainteiner of the project
@Chillin-fpv
@Chillin-fpv 7 месяцев назад
Thats awesome!!
@DevilSnake59
@DevilSnake59 7 месяцев назад
Good to ear that, i've done my first tuning with them on betaflight and it was so easier. I followed this tuto : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3DQDz6ko_C8.html I think i will put inav on my 7" quad instead of betaflight because i prefere to soft flight and get gps functions to rescuing ^^
@noramas.
@noramas. 7 месяцев назад
I will never try inav for drones until the compass will vanish from a basic rth requirement for drones 😂
@thirtythreeeyes8624
@thirtythreeeyes8624 7 месяцев назад
Inav is more of a nav software hence the name and if you want good nav as well as position hold etc. you need a compass. I even add compass to my Betaflight drones for better RTH performance.
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
compass stays as it's waaaays more safer and precise than what BF is doing
@f2bcnc74
@f2bcnc74 6 месяцев назад
nope ... sorry but i did not like Ez Tune ... when you try to tune with PID Toolbox, you need other sliders (indeed same slider from Betaflight) I prefer to modify directly PID FF values than use the slider (in fact it's more accurate with Value than slider...) So please put a P/D balance and a master Multiplier. "this is the way" :) Chris Rosser and DZARO made some tutotials and explain the method to tune and Ez Tune is not a helper. Other thing : could you explain how to set "filters" and "mechanics" tab ? I did not find a "how-to" and did not find also how to see noise in Inav Betaflight... Keep going ; I like Inav for other things ;)
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