ELAC Debut 2.0 Review: A Good Budget Speaker

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@ErinsAudioCorner Год назад

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@EchoBaseNetwork Год назад

I love you.

@HawkFest Год назад

Thank you man! I fumbled onto a link to your Website then this clip, while reading a thread on Reddit: _"How to chose model of Elac speakers for front L&R?"_ (misspell included). And glad I did: as things are meant to change, for now you're my number one RU-vidr in the category "rigorous audio analysis" - "model branding analysis" is another story 😁. Very useful for those who already have an idea about how their actual hearing tastes relate to the underlying "science" - at least it'd be enlightening, in order to then discover such correlation. Thanks 👍

@1337sim1 Год назад

You are now officially my favorite audio RU-vidr! Thank you very much for your great work. Keep it up! 😎🤘🎶

@keepingupwiththejones2933 Год назад

Does anybody else love the beatbox when the speaker is spinning in all of Erin's reviews!!!?!? It always tickles my fancy 😅😭

@avnut5517 Год назад

Thank you for testing and reviewing these speakers. I love your explanations of what you are hearing in the test data

@joshcatstream Год назад

I wasn't prepared for that straight fire beat boxing Erin

@GB-je5tc Год назад

Erin, I LOVED your intro b-roll music when the speaker was rotating 360 degrees... the old school human synthesized beat box riff was very a propo... LOL Nice touch. Again, another VERY user-friendly review done in VERY understandable terms... pointing out many of the variables that can explain the resultant data. I really appreciate how you specifically conduct your reviews (and intros LOL). Excellent science. Keep it up, THX.

@acemacgruber6593 Год назад

Great review. I really appreciate comparing the data with the listening experience. Thanks.

@damayor9559 Год назад

Outstanding as always Erin. Your measurements and thoughts are always appreciated. I bought a pair of these last month and even while breaking them in they quickly jumped to #1 in my budget bookshelf speakers collection. Surpassing the Wharfedale D320's, JBL Stage A130's and Klipsch R14M's. I also noticed the bass drop off but since I live in a condo and don't crank up the volume it's pretty inconsequential. Thank you and keep up the great work.

@nerwin 8 месяцев назад

This is good to hear. I was using M-Audio AV40s for a long time that only go down to 85hz if you're lucky. Surely these Elac 5.2 must sound better? I was very very happy with the M-audio setup...so hopefully I am not disappointed.

@TheBassallyear100 Год назад

My son just moved to his first place and with it decided to get the HT bug. I hooked him up with a spare yamaha AVR and surrendered an LG 65 OLED that had been in my master bedroom (yeah i'm still crying! lol). He bought the speakers and sub. I found him a killer deal on some Elac Debut 2.0's and he (for him) splurged on an HSU VTF2 Mk5. All in all a great foundation for a first HT.

@okay1904 Год назад

Erin - The video quality of this - is fantastic, your lens, sensor and lighting and post production was nice - and the audio was ok - You looked superb in this video.

@christoofart Год назад

Thanks for the workup on these, I would agree with all of your findings. I'm using mine with an SR6010 w/ Audyssey and 2 subs @ 80hz, speakers toed in, and am pretty happy with the result. For music I tend to prefer the Flat setting. I switched out the matching MTM center w/ a Paradigm 3 way center I had sitting around after seeing your center channel clip, and that also really made a difference. For their price point these are great speakers.

@angelmelo350 Год назад

Hi, I am very happy with mine for over 2 years, this speakers likes power, good amplification

@Mark-ro5zg Год назад

I just came across this channel and appreciate the detailed information you give. Thank you. I purchased the Elacs about 4 years ago for $150. Also have the Klipsch RP600M for about 3 years. I've used both with a Reisong A12 tube amp connected to a Rega P2 turntable, Schitt Mani Preamp. I have mostly used the Klipsch, but can be a bit harsh on the higher frequency range and can be fatiguing to listen to sometimes. I recently hooked up the Elacs again and listened to several hours of music and found them to be easier on the ears but lack the high end, cymbals are hard to make out compared to the Klipsch speakers. I like the 600's more than the Elacs but as you mentioned they need some equalization.

@ilmatanela1816 Год назад

What's your experience with the Klipsch 's bass?

@DearSX Год назад

Wish I saw this before I got Jami S803, still all good. Thanks for the review and data

@juicebox853 Год назад

Pretty good looking measurements on this speaker. The Elac's I have seen, seem to be intended for moderate volume listening and compress a little early. I have the Unifi UB5s and like them, but they are volume limited. The Klipsch RP-600 on the other hand, have their flaws, but will play loud.

@davidniquot6423 Год назад

I like your technical way of doing things ... we can have a "physics" view of the performance and then your personnal feeling. All good .. thanks.

@DSRT888 Год назад

I've still within the return window of my Encore B6. I'm thinking of trying out these guys.

@glennh7297 Год назад

Sounds like a good budget 2.1 setup crossed at 80hz to clean up the compression in the low end. A good 12 inch sub, should make a good number of people happy for the cost. Great review, as always, Erin.

@nextari Год назад

So you are saying to set the sub crossover to 80hz for a 10" sub? vs 120hz I think is normally recommended? $250 Klipsch R-100SW 10" . Thanks!

@glennh7297 Год назад

@@nextari I would start with mains and sub placement first, then play around with your crossover to see what sounds the best to your ears. The lower that I can crossover usually sounds best to me, but you may like it at a higher frequency, and your room will play into the equation. If your running off of a home theater amp, you should be able to go to your system menu and find the crossover frequency setting and sub level, and either a crossover frequency setting for front speakers, or a large/small setting. You can find out what the frequency is for the large/small setting in the manual and go from there if your amp doesn't have a sweepable frequency adjustment for your mains. Good luck and have fun!

@poisoncobra7 Год назад

picked up the b5.2 as my first passive set of speakers and I'm very happy with the sound, they do well with whatever i throw at them and i love the neutral and balanced sound. i got them on Amazon for 209 euro which is a very fair price imo. now i don't know what to listen for as I'm just starting out in this hobby so for me as a someone who's listened to headphones and Bluetooth speakers my whole life i can't hear any shortcomings, it just sounds amazing and detailed to me. The design has grown on me, it's the stereotypical speaker, it doesn't look amazing but they are minimal which i like and it's possible to remove the tweeter mesh which improves the appearance a bit.

@rosswarren436 Год назад

Picked these B6.2 up a few years ago for use in my computer room for $250 on open box special at Crutchfield. Some reviewers say the smaller B5.2 has better bass ironically. But I am running some tone controls on it. I play them at relatively low volume most of the time. That compression is good to know about, but I don't think I encounter it in my small room too often. Some say you can remove the grille around the tweeter and get a better response, but I've never tried that. Great review with data to back it up. Thanks! If I had to do it over again, I might save up and get the DBR version for $699 (or less when on special) instead, but overall, I'm happy for the price. If I add a small sub in there, I'll take your advice and match them around 80 Hz. Cool.

@thomosburn8740 Год назад

Erin didn't talk about soundstage presentation, but everything else was well covered!

@UncleKarlito Год назад

I have an Elac Debut 2.0 bonanza going on in my HT. Four of the in-wall versions and two in-ceiling versions along with the DB62 and C62 for LCR. I even had two Elac 3010 subs lol. The center is definitely the weak point, it gets the job done but it sounds kind of "boxy". Will be replacing LCR soon with something a little more high end but keeping the in-walls for a long time as they get the job done very well. I like how neutral they are. I don't have a huge room so keep everything at a moderate volume.

@GrandHeresiarch 2 месяца назад

I've had a pair of these for years. Never saw a measurement. I think I agree - also they're nice enough speakers as-is. Love 'em. Mine rest on studio accoustic pads to avoid surface vibration.

@welderfixer Год назад

Great review as always. Thank you!

@JoseFerreira-zb7wh Год назад

It'd be really nice if you could review some more Elac speakers 😀 Specially the b5.2s and the ub52s. Keep it up!

@sdtx1112 Год назад

I've had a pair of these for a little over 3 years and have been happy with them. Spot on about the upper mid-range brightness. Depending on the source and music it can getting very noticeable and a bit fatiguing (for me) pretty quickly. But like I said, I've been overall pleased, especially at the $150/pr I paid for them at the time. I am looking to upgrade though.

@sergivaschenko Год назад

Thank you! Good objective review, as always.

@trog69 Год назад

I have a lot of bookshelf speakers. From the first gen Elac b6's to the Vienna Acoustic's "Haydn". I would never give the VA's away, but I will likely give the Elacs to someone since they're mostly set and forget. The only bookshelf's that beat the Elacs are the aDs L810s, which are much larger and with dual-8" bass drivers.

@andrewforsythe7240 Год назад

Erin, I agree with your review. I have owned these for 3 years now, grew up on silk dome tweeters. But maybe it is my age, I needed more in the highs, so I bought the Klipsch RB 81ii's, better highs but yes I gave up some midrange for sure. One note, you and Cheap Audio Man are opposite on the Jamo 93ii's and this speaker which he did not like at all. However your reviews is in keeping with most reviewers for sure, they really like these speakers. I do too, however they are sitting in the box they came in. Thanks, great review as always.

@themastroiannis Год назад

Erin, great review! my favorite budget speaker, period. musical and neutral. i still own a pair and use it in my garage. it upscales well with fancier amps. how does the elac compare to the emotiva B1+ you also like? i must admit i have issues with ribbon tweeters. have owned Quad S2 and Elac Carinas and did not like either. both lacked vertical space/depth. time to explore the best $500-$600 speakers??

@kobush18 Год назад

great review as usual

@zer0dave 8 месяцев назад

Great channel, like your review style!

@ErinsAudioCorner 8 месяцев назад

Much appreciated!

@wzywgwzywg Год назад

awesome review. lines up perfectly with my experience with this speaker as well.

@danielcarlsson615 Год назад

So. Now I subscribed =) like technology and all you put into it. So. Keep on going 😃🎵👌🏻

@zzt231gr Год назад

Hey Erin,you should try the Carina floorstanders!They are excellent speakers for the money and Andrew Jones designed them!

@kevinbehnke7149 Год назад

I've had 2 pairs of the 6.2's over the course of the past 5 years. I did enjoy them but always wanted just something a bit more. I have been curious of the 5.2 since some reviewers preferred over the 6.2. Been on the lookout for a decent used set .

@commanderrussels2612 Год назад

I hear you have some Triad Gold LCRs in? Really curious how those measure. Thanks for the videos as always!

@tk45440 Год назад

Try a review of the on wall version of this!

@swllz Год назад

👍👍👍, data speaks by itself, would you compare this with Emotiva b2+?

@intenttoinjure Год назад

I just heard a demo of the Paradigm Atom SE. They sounded pretty damn good.

@joelopez7459 Год назад

Woot, had these and the 1.0

@snakedude61 Год назад

I'm trying to find 3 towers for lcr behind an a.t. screen. That can also do 2 channel for my vinyl. I'm trying to stay around 1500 to maybe 2000 or less for the 3 speakers. I have 2 feet behind the screen. That has open insulation on the walls and ceiling of the small "room in a room" behind the screen. Think walls made of diy absorption panels. I tend to prefer a more smooth laid back speaker if that helps. Any thoughts would be super helpful.

@Boxkerp Год назад

Do you have any plans to review any SVS speakers, such as the Ultra Bookshelves, prime bookshelves, or Prime Pinnacles?

@OOnti-dz4jd Год назад

Great video. What speaker would you recommend between the Elac b6.2 or the UB5? The UB5 is selling for around the same right now as the b6.2. The UB5 was highly rated 5 years ago when it came out. Which would you recommend? Please answer.

@officialchill1706 Год назад

So how do these compare to Emotiva B1+? I saw you have just reviewed Wharfedale 12.1 too, perhaps there's going to be a three way shootout? Would be interesting to also include JBL 530 when they go on sale for $240 again!

@RdandTrk1 Год назад

Please do the SVS Prime Bookshelf!

@StarcraftGT500 Год назад

You think one would be able to mount this on the ceiling using the screws that have plugs on the back screwed in?

@BhavikPatelhr Год назад

Thanks for your review. It's great. Can you please review Polk ES20 and ES60?

@stevenholt5484 Год назад

see the review on ASR re the es20's, you'll be pleased.

@TheDenix8 Год назад

I wish it had a bit wider soundstage (by looking at the graph)

@nextari Год назад

Do the charts tell you everything about the music, for example the feel? I don't mean a U shaped response with strong bass/treble, but the definition of the sound, etc? In other words, how is the chart applicable but limited to judging a speaker?

@vicg5323 8 месяцев назад

Interesting review

@Julian-Willemsen Год назад

need your help. Can you recommend a pair of bookshelf speakers with a very detailed and open sound, especially at lower and mid levels? My budget is up to 300€, they need to be active . Thanks 👍👍

@trevorbartram5473 10 месяцев назад

Does anyone know the cause of the 700Hz resonance & have simple passive/practical cure for it?

@kiv9431 Год назад

Hey Erin, what’s your opinion about Q Acoustics 3030i?

@theboatyboat Год назад

I run a pair of DB5.2's in near-field on my desktop. Yes I want a sub. No I don't need it. They sound great - way better than I originally thought they would. I have enough room I could run the 6.2's - but anybody questioning if these are decent for a desktop and Chi-Fi amp - go for it. A give Deadmau5 - Strobe a listen here and there just to tune up my ears. Definitely satisfied.

@daijoubu4529 Год назад

I would be interested in your review of the budget ELAC BS41

@DougMen1 Год назад

It's actually very similar, in that it uses the same tweeter, and is voiced very similarly too. Of course, it will have less bass extension and output level. It's very good for $149 a pair, and even better when it's on sale

@BL-yj2wp Год назад

For 235€/pair these would make decent rears or the like, sometimes cheap and cheerful is just the right ting.

@michaelwyckoff7593 Год назад

Hey Erin

@-MarkWinston- Год назад

There are some fools over at that site bitchin about why you are measurin speakers that already have been measured there like you owe them somethin. Without you being to be able to defend youraelf there, I feel pissed. I really wished that fella would come and talk like that outside of that site without the protection he gets from there. As for you Erin, I hope you establish your own database and not rely on that place. You are coming up with more data than that site because of your open mind, measurements and science arent stagnant. Thank you so much for ushering us measurements folks into the next phase.

@gregorymorrill7558 Год назад

Howdy, say on the webpage where you posted a PEQ example you have one filter that is @89.5hrz, -5.6db with a Q of 2ish. That seems very out of place. Might want to double check in case anyone emulates that example. Anyway thanks for the review!!

@ErinsAudioCorner Год назад

Just ignore it if you want. That’s to target a particular roll off. Don’t recall what it was, though. Sometimes the auto EQ on REW works better when you change that rolloff especially when you have upper midbass areas you want to target.

@keepingupwiththejones2933 Год назад

10:47 the looks of it!!?! Leaves something to be desired. 😭😅

@TD05SSLegacy Год назад

Yes. So ugly. Girlfriend thumbs down

@keepingupwiththejones2933 Год назад

2:57 The data can tell you which speakers are really bad and which speakers to flat out avoid all together. These speakers are not those speakers 😅😭

@hiu35 2 месяца назад

Deep & Clean Info 🔭🧪🌍 Hi from India 🇮🇳

@Gamez4eveR 11 месяцев назад

looks like an excellent option for budget surround/height speakers

@steadisteve Месяц назад

Vs the 5.2. Worth the extra $30?

@castro619a Год назад

My new Dac revolutionized my headphone system, I didn’t hear any difference in my Ub5 though the receiver from Dac. Do I need a separate amp?

@castro619a Год назад

@Douglas Blake there’s no difference between a good Dac and bad Dac? If I heard a significant/night and day difference in headphones, I shouldn’t expect any difference through my speakers? Great advice, keep up the good work! 🙏

@conchobar Год назад

Every speaker deserves the BeatBox treatment.

@nerwin 8 месяцев назад

Now I'm a little concerned...did I make a bad purchase? I been using M-Audio AV40s for my general music listening at my desk for the last 13-ish years and I been extremely happy with the way they sound and yesterday they unfortunately died so I saw these Elac 5.2 on amazon for $199. I also picked up a decent amplifier to powered them...I can't imagine these sounding worse? I don't listen to them extremely loud but just want full sounding music while I'm working at the computer. I hope these do that, I don't have them yet,. ordered them yesterday....I don't understand much about audio but your review kinda has me worried 😅

@ErinsAudioCorner 8 месяцев назад

See how you like them when you get them. If you like them then no worries. If not, my review may give you a better understanding why.

@hbg70 7 месяцев назад

Your intro is intriguing, then you appear 😮

@ld4974 10 месяцев назад

They are great speakers. I have a pair in my garage. Not the look I want in my living room.

@anaxa4883 Год назад

I used this speaker for several months before selling it years ago. The highs were very subdued making it a very boring and soft sounding speaker speaker to me. I now have the Emotiva b1+ which is MUCH better. I wonder why both speakers sound so drastically different and yet both measure pretty flat.

@NosEL34 Год назад

Might be the 2 different type of tweeters they use. Emo's have that ribbon type.

@anaxa4883 Год назад

@@NosEL34 Nope. I had/have plenty of soft dome tweeter speakers that did not have this problem like the Polk monitor 7a (have), Micca rb42 (had), and Polk signature s60 (had). I've been into hifi for a long time and had many many others too. The elac b6.2 were soft and boring sounding. Not good for exciting sounding music like rock or pop.

@TheDarius1968 Год назад

Thanks for steering me in the right direction, away from the Elac, towards the Emotiva B1+! What are yoh using to power the B1+s?

@purpasmart_4831 Год назад

The B1+ has better low end response. That alone makes it better then the 6.2's.

@DougMen1 Год назад

From what I've heard, the B5.2 and B6.2 are some of the best in their price range, but they are a bit on the bright side. Andrew Jones did that intentionally, because one of the main complaints people had about the previous generation of these is that they were a bit too soft on top. That resonance is pretty narrow, which will make it less noticeable. However, being where it is, it's right in an area where a lot of musical information exists and where our ears are most sensitive.

@word2RG Год назад

👍

@McMaxW Год назад

Could someone please tell me what would be a good option for powering these speakers?

@bbfoto7248 Год назад

It would depend on your budget and the features you needed. There are too many options without knowing that. Would the speakers be used for 2 channel listening only, or with a HDTV for a home theater type setup? Do you want a remote control for volume?

@McMaxW Год назад

@@bbfoto7248 As I would use them in my desk to listen to music (as 2 channels), I would like something relatively small. A remote would be a nice addition but not necessary. Of course, I am looking for something not too expensive as I would use it for these speakers. Thank you!

@McMaxW Год назад

@Douglas Blake thank you!

@DougMen1 Год назад

@@McMaxW The Cambridge AXA35 and Yamaha A-S301 are both good sounding and affordable amps. Others are the Denon PMA600NE and NAD316BEE

@McMaxW Год назад

@@DougMen1 thank you very much, I’ll check them out.

@nagumaninagu9368 Год назад

Hi sir

@harryburnett7086 Год назад

I just wonder all these speaker manufacturers how does number of high and super hi end speakers get passed and sent out for sale knowing they are not perfect , they are definitely not clueless and their engineers are smart , but why I just want to know

@PNWDad Год назад

I think you're missing a link to the web page review (unless RU-vid is acting funny for me)

@ErinsAudioCorner Год назад

Thanks for the heads up. Just added the link. 👍

@chinmeysway Год назад

Your beard is, good

@SimpMcSimpy Год назад

No longer "budget" speakers :)

@chrisb5986 Год назад

Most budget speakers don't suck. Don't believe audiopile garbage.

@ErinsAudioCorner Год назад

Of course not all. Unfortunately, many do. Thus, the delineation.

@thedude3423 9 месяцев назад

Now at $400 a pair! No way are they worth that now. At $250-$300 sure, highly recommended. But now? Nope. Way to expensive for what they are. The hype is over and the cost way too much...

@JukeboxAlley Год назад

These are a terrible speaker, have em a shot, and real proper shot thier disappointing, my old dcm cx-07 walk all over em, not even close, that's sad because they look good. Just bad port design with lots of noise at 60+ db, cabinets thin and garbage, tweeter is decent though, woofers glasses out way too fast.

@JonHunter80 Год назад

well this was most enlightening, kinda bummed me out as I was just about to order them, so anyone have other brands in mind that have about the same specs, 6/5'' speakers, around 40hz-20khz, under $1000. I might just save up more and buy the buchardt audio S300 MK2 SE at $1077 usd, or the ELAC Carina Bookshelfs at $1000