[ENG CC] Seeker EG6 vs. RE Amemiya RX-7 Touge battle HV77 

Lol forgot about that car

lmfao agreed

Hold the fucking phone...

Hot Sauce Haley Another AC fan? Even here? We're spreading!

Been an Ace since Air Combat, and looking forward to AC7!

Honda owners

@@evanmastermind Said a typical Honda hater

All for crashing twice

Power_of_R you make it sound like that's rare. That's what happens when you lock up any brakes. They probably removed ABS which isn't uncommon for a ton of high spec built cars.

From outside i thought it was just understeer. Just when they show the inside view I noticed the brakes locked.

Why would they remove something that would cause the brakes to get locked?

@@robertvuitton maybe wheight reduction or idk Maybe the didnt remove it. Maybe it was an issue with the car's ABS setup

@RantaAnders he did

Thank you miroshi keep up the updates

+miroshi Thanks for the videos. Me and a bunch of my friends would always try and find Best Motoring videos in Highschool (2000-04). Now the only places that give near the detail are MOTIVE and sometimes MotorTrend, but they still don't come close the track battles. I mean the wheel to wheel racing is just great to watch.

La Channelloto yis

3:48 - What is this? Handbrake on lol..

SlickRickOne habit probly

I mean it's a good habit, it's better to have the wheels locked rather than to have the car roll farther into the ditch, regardless, still funny how you pointed that out lmfao

You don't want to roll the car down the cliff before the towing truck comes, you know gravity will work in this case right

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確実に織戸さんは悪くない…

brake reduction.... yikes...

+Isaac Moody subtitles are available :)

LOL!

yup use the CC

Maybe because this was filmed in the 90s?

Even the newer videos are poor quality.

+aclark092 Because they're usually ripped copies and then compacted.

aclark092 hahaha so true 😂

Maybe they rip the videos using a tape recorder? The old original DVRs, then transform to digital

2回目のコースアウトの足元カメラ見ると完全にオリダーが一瞬ブレーキ踏み遅れてドッカンブレーキしてブレーキロックで真っ直ぐ行ったように見えますがね

@@alicehartz2247 あーごめん、そこまで見てないかったわーw 後でよく観てみます でもそーとしても、何人かが指摘してるようなドアンダーマシンとは違い、操作ミスによるブレーキロックという事になるねw

織戸さんはアロンソみたいに悪くても乗りこなしちゃうから…セッティング駄目出ししなかったんだろうな

@@はる-n2y3m せやな

I suppose it's bad tie rod/steering rack/anything down there.

+Travis Faubel That EG is fastest EG&FWD i ever saw around touge track, Orido messed up 1st crash 100% and for 2nd good driver should create ABS brake if car dont have ABS like this EG and why no Ebrake before 180R corner he went streight like an idiot Orido fault no question guess he had some drinking night before lol

+hondahillracing AFAIK the EG does have ABS but it failed.

+hondahillracing If a person doesn't know the car well enough, it may still be an unknown. I do not know how the car was set up for brake bias. With ABS, the system will redistribute balance. You just mash the brakes, and the system will even it out. Without ABS, you're completely dependent on the mechanical balance. Most stock setups are balanced with a front bias to promote understeer. Some systems may be set up more moderately so. When feeling for brake threshold, you might have one of two expectations. One, if you know it's front biased, you're trying to feel the front tire lockup and modulate just before. You add braking distance and hope you don't forget to do so on the next corner. You also avoid all steering and basically throw trail braking out the window. Two, you're feeling for the rear end to get loose, but that will never happen. I think a lot of people learn to focus quite heavily on this, so a lot of your mental tuning for braking ends up on the back end. The mind learns to think front steer, rear brake/throttle. Then you get into a front brake, front no steer situation, it throws the mental training out of whack. The bigger issue revolves around grip expectation. When driving, you get a very good sense of total grip, especially if there's a lot of steady state cornering. You gain an expectation of overall G force the car can support and carry this expectation to braking. With a well set car, this assumption is correct, and you'll have a pretty even grip level as you load the car in any direction. When you brake with a poorly biased setup, you might be 10% to 30% off of this maximum depending on how bad it's set. Even a very mild discrepancy will generate a 10%-15% loss of straight line braking distance. Plus there's no way to make corrections of any kind as you transition into cornering. You come to a corner with a sum expectation and end up short changed by a good margin. The first time the driver experienced this should have been a huge red flag to fix the balance.

+Xmvw2X theres a subtitled version. the abs failed and locked up. this had happen to my dad in his yaris. and yes it has abs

+Itsxok Still why no Ebrake he crashed like idiot both time

Jujutsuheiho also he came in a too little hot so he used too much brake pressure front tires locked up and he stuffed it it happens to all of us tho each car has it's qurks

didn't Nob do the 370z

+Bushtail Razorback was it???i forgot....cuz tsuchiya said orido always wreck cars at the touge..haha

+derafdrummer94 , it could have been, lol. it's nice they push them that hard tho

+derafdrummer94 your right about Orido crashed white amuse 370z...same problem/mistake brake locked

+arif rifz i know right???!!it crashed and squeezed under the barrier

Dominic you got that right. it's a damn death trap.

he locked the brakes and went into the turn a little too fast. civics usually do well on these touge sprints

Yeah looks like it started understeering and when he applied brake it locked up.

vlado chardakliev i could teach him that its retarded to drive without working brakes

+Joe Barbaro hahahahahahah, you dont even know how stupid you see

+Joe Barbaro Wow. You're acting like a 12 year old Call of Duty fanboy trying to teach an Iraqi war vet how to fight.

+HuskyWarrior 0029 He might well be a 12yo kid playing COD/Forza.

Funny thing is, he lets go of the brakes twice with the steering wheel turned but the car is still locked and understeering

It has a lot of under steer due to it being ff

+New England Fb he's crashing because the brakes locked, had nothing to do with it being ff, every drive train can understeer.

yeep, every drivetrain can understeer, remember in the stage 1 final battle of initial D, takumi's ae86 understeered? and the fact that an ae86 is a FR?

although FF and 4WD is more prone to understeer