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[ENG CC] Ultimate 1,600cc vs. raw power - Spoon EK9 + N2 AE86 vs. RX7, S14, EVO III Ebisu HV29 

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David vs. Goliath, the ultimate 1,600cc machines vs. raw power turbo machines, race at east Ebisu.
Starting grid:
1. Spoon Civic EK9 1.8L 230Hp (Hattori Naoki)
2. Auto producer BOSS S14 Silvia 451Hp (Kawasaki Shuhei)
3. Dekki Mechanical Lancer EVO III 360Hp (Ida Akira)
4. N2 Hachiroku AE86 1.6L 280Hp (Keiichi Tsuchiya)
5. Fujita engineering RX-7 FD3S 500Hp (Orido Manabu)

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@miroshi
@miroshi 6 лет назад
Hondash - the ultimate tool to monitor your Honda www.hondash.net facebook.com/hondashapp/
@eggrollpinoy
@eggrollpinoy 6 лет назад
S14 racing
@L00PdeL00P
@L00PdeL00P 5 лет назад
I miss 80s - 90s JDM ingenuity. Every car was so different and weird and each had their own personality traits and flaws. Such beautifully designed aesthetics too.
@jamey1929
@jamey1929 4 года назад
Agreed, the world is turning into this gray blob of the same thing lol
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A 2 года назад
I miss the days when sports car were based on the production car chassis. Just like the BMW M3 and Skyline GT-R.
@filipvelkov6829
@filipvelkov6829 7 лет назад
That rip-off rocky music xD LMFAO
@rb264ag
@rb264ag 7 лет назад
the instant the horns started i wanted to laugh. Then i lost it
@batesmotel282
@batesmotel282 5 лет назад
Filip Velkov ongoood xD
@robertoarchetti353
@robertoarchetti353 5 лет назад
Wow i'm not the only one who noticed that
@NMad-kp2bu
@NMad-kp2bu 5 лет назад
😂👌 Not bad for a spin-off. Dodged the copyright violation
@empyongle4661
@empyongle4661 5 лет назад
When is that
@JorgeCanovas
@JorgeCanovas 8 лет назад
The more I watch these Hot Version/Best Motoring videos, the more I understand Gran Turismo. Love 90's Japanese vehicles and video games.
@pizzasub3194
@pizzasub3194 7 лет назад
Jorge Canovas These shows are way better than top gear
@juandef4115
@juandef4115 6 лет назад
Jorge Canovas them slow gran turismo cars in real life are fun
@fistingendakenny8781
@fistingendakenny8781 6 лет назад
play tokyo extreme racer & kaido racer... they outsold gran turismo 5 to 1... real drifto by default.
@srennelamirez643
@srennelamirez643 5 лет назад
@@fistingendakenny8781 nah wangan midnight game are better
@vipbeef2174
@vipbeef2174 5 лет назад
@@srennelamirez643 stfu kid who only knows about straight line performance
@LittleMac938
@LittleMac938 9 лет назад
The only time a Civic hits 12,000 rpm is when a Japanese driver downshifts...
@robertlund5694
@robertlund5694 4 года назад
And when an american drag racer mis-shifts and does a nose wheelie while destroying his entire drivetrain in 1 moment.
@Numi_numi
@Numi_numi 4 года назад
What if i just add my civic to 20,000 rpm
@ericdrisgula3879
@ericdrisgula3879 4 года назад
Actually I saw a video yesterday out of this particular series of a spoon built 2000cc version of the jdm b18c type R motor in an ek9 type R chassis , and it was shifting at like 11300-11400 rpm's and smoked everybody else on the track despite a few cars having 100-150 hp more than it , the spoon 2000cc type r motor was making over 230hp of N/,A hp to the front wheels and actually won the race quite easily with probably at least a 3 second lap time difference between him and the 2nd place car come by the finish line , so I'm determined there was something wrong with the 1800cc type R motor in the eK9 of this race here , an 1800cc carbed ae86 shouldn't have been that much faster than it in a lap time let alone even not possibly faster at all, I'd expect a spoon built b18c in a 2100-2200 pound eK9 chassis would beat an 1800cc ae86 in any drag race something was def wrong with that civic there is no way the ek9's final lap time shoulda been that much slower than the rest of the cars as I know an 1800cc ae86 is not much faster than a spoon b18c ek9 if even any faster period they should have been neck and neck and in some parts of the track the ek9 shoulda been faster enough to hold the lead over the ae86 for the entire race , somethi g was def wrong with the motor on that ek9 he was limping it across the finish line at the end look how slow he crossed the finish line and on a down hill slope none the less where the high revvs and hp of that spoon b18c shoulda made that ek9 fly down that slope and across the finish line , not saddfully limp across it like a deer with a broken leg.
@twincammikev
@twincammikev 4 года назад
@@ericdrisgula3879 don't be butt hurt the Toyota was faster.. LOL
@hondasarefaster5914
@hondasarefaster5914 4 года назад
@@twincammikev Honda's shit all over toyota
@johnm3907
@johnm3907 8 лет назад
These videos are great, a lot better than drag racing
@robertlund5694
@robertlund5694 4 года назад
Bs, Japanese drag racing is sick.
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 4 года назад
Drag Racing sucks
@user-fi2ow1jb8s
@user-fi2ow1jb8s 4 года назад
straight line suck
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 4 года назад
Dragsters are pointless. They just last 5-10 secs alive before dying.
@hajkomartan
@hajkomartan 4 года назад
@@robertlund5694 Said no one ever
@MangoKev
@MangoKev 9 лет назад
That 86 sounds so nice!
@dadisi09
@dadisi09 9 лет назад
It shuur does!
@cvetomirkostov4647
@cvetomirkostov4647 5 лет назад
Yeah.. that bbbBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAp sound just makes me so happy... !
@srennelamirez643
@srennelamirez643 5 лет назад
Yeah of course it the drift kings
@fredakml2459
@fredakml2459 5 лет назад
Toyota never fail to impress
@robertlund5694
@robertlund5694 4 года назад
Balls out
@tasshuffler8905
@tasshuffler8905 7 лет назад
I feel like I'm watching initial D "The civic holds the lead during the downhill, but will it be able to hold off the Lan-Evo on the uphill!"
@user-gm6cm1rb4k
@user-gm6cm1rb4k 4 года назад
線そ
@user-gm6cm1rb4k
@user-gm6cm1rb4k 4 года назад
線さ
@octalpepper
@octalpepper 4 года назад
If u wanna see real touge races look for hot versions
@ToreDL87
@ToreDL87 4 года назад
These videos and inputs from these drivers is what they used for the anime/manga after all :)
@kapengbarako8877
@kapengbarako8877 2 года назад
Yes, the video made realistic Initial D. The Evo is the dominating of all seconded by FC but 86's driver is a monster so that it will became the fastest of all.
@texasrepresent1229
@texasrepresent1229 8 лет назад
at the end of the day, Tsuchiya driving skills still showed very brightly. amazing
@bdmr_isf
@bdmr_isf 6 лет назад
The sound of that 4age is absolutely beautiful!
@CarsnStuff
@CarsnStuff 7 лет назад
The s14 really surprised me ! gotta love the s chassis.
@v8consumption
@v8consumption 4 года назад
The s chassis was clearly modified and more hp. They shod have tested them all stock not race prepped. Just tires and rims and then see who wins. I'd think the ae86 would win.
@roknroller6052
@roknroller6052 3 года назад
@taizer... Standard cars are mostly uninterested, as there a contradiction in function
@roknroller6052
@roknroller6052 3 года назад
@Review Guy... Yeah the s-chassis has great potential
@vebzuia4336
@vebzuia4336 2 года назад
@@roknroller6052 that's why theirs VTEC 😂
@anas.g
@anas.g 4 года назад
it's amazing to see the number of angels they shot the race from, really makes you feel the competition
@esdrasferreras1227
@esdrasferreras1227 4 года назад
*angles
@111beni
@111beni 7 лет назад
9:36 That Backfire THO!!!
@usdm420xauttpavgcpedcp8
@usdm420xauttpavgcpedcp8 6 лет назад
Onkel Benz MISFIRING SYSTEM
@emmyjasin
@emmyjasin 6 лет назад
missufiringu shisutemu!
@scottpartridge7281
@scottpartridge7281 5 лет назад
Afterfire* as backfire exits through the intake, and afterfire is a result of unburnt fuel dumped into a super hot exhaust pipe, making the "bang bang" and the sweet, sweet, fire that rotaries blow so well
@runt0r
@runt0r 4 года назад
@@emmyjasin Ge! shifto missen!
@craigb6185
@craigb6185 4 года назад
@@scottpartridge7281 after fire?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 yeah ok
@dominicpadre3306
@dominicpadre3306 3 года назад
their convo after is so wholesome. always complementing each other
@jacobhulsey7547
@jacobhulsey7547 2 года назад
That rev matching at 10:07 is incredible skill!
@kamailo99
@kamailo99 4 года назад
this is much better than current F1 season
@itsjussjerry
@itsjussjerry 9 лет назад
That 86 sounds amazing!
@shinzantetsu
@shinzantetsu 9 лет назад
Thanks for posting, awesome video
@dho
@dho 5 лет назад
seriously great driving. much better in my eyes to have a slower but well controlled track machine than to have a high hp cars that just feeds you tickets and dirty looks after two gear pulls
@BlitzzGames
@BlitzzGames 5 лет назад
Used some parts of this video in a class presentation to prove that Japan's car scene is quite serious and competitive... i forgot to cut out the beginning 😭
@sloweg3113
@sloweg3113 5 лет назад
Lol how'd it go?
@BlitzzGames
@BlitzzGames 5 лет назад
@@sloweg3113 i just skipped to the middle right away, but not of course without panicking and pausing it for a good 5 seconds
@Ferg2jz
@Ferg2jz 2 года назад
As a 14a owner I'm hella proud to see it win and to have pulled away from the pack by the end. I've always said they're brilliant for track not just drift but ultimately the highlight is tsuchiya in that ae86... Pushing an already super competent car in the corners ( the rx7) and with a 2-3x horsepower disadvantage, is incredibly impressive.
@PrehistoricBeasts
@PrehistoricBeasts Год назад
Thank you for the videos and the translations! Looking to buy my first Civic soon, hyping myself up with the videos.
@k1luca
@k1luca 4 года назад
The AE86 sounds amazing!! Love it
@phlatphour4285
@phlatphour4285 4 года назад
Just another Tuesday for these guys
@duro845
@duro845 9 лет назад
Very intense race. These guys are going all out I love it
@RastaRider
@RastaRider 8 лет назад
7:27 GAHD I LOVE the sound of these high revving, small displacement four cylinders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I miss my supercharged FA5 :'(
@reneeharewood5053
@reneeharewood5053 4 года назад
Legendary cars with legendary engines.. great you guys
@user-lo8qq1rc9s
@user-lo8qq1rc9s 4 года назад
14乗りとしてはこの動画を何回も見に来てしまう!
@kostasevagelidis
@kostasevagelidis 8 лет назад
Αrigato Miroshi for the translation!!You re the best!!
@Brock_Landers
@Brock_Landers 5 лет назад
Yeah, the Civic has the B18C engine, and it's been lightened, so it's a monster in the turns with excellent exiting capabilities, but you can't hold off those higher power turbo cars. Now what should really happen is to put a turbo on the B18C and that Civic would almost surely dominate this course.
@TheBb6prelude
@TheBb6prelude 4 года назад
It was actually a b16b with a bigger crank
@Miamiboi305
@Miamiboi305 6 лет назад
I love how the rx7 just chilled and when he wanted said time to get involved lol. Went from why's the car not even competing to damn that things moving
@jeanmitchell1648
@jeanmitchell1648 7 лет назад
thanks miroshi san ! good good good .
@biomate6746
@biomate6746 6 лет назад
AE86 Vs FD and Lan Evo? Initial D comfirmed
@vikingfromthenorth7
@vikingfromthenorth7 6 лет назад
Bio Mate xD yes
@scrapscrap2331
@scrapscrap2331 3 года назад
But look at how fast the fd is in the straights
@torusuetsugu2353
@torusuetsugu2353 3 года назад
Todo school civic and it's in yellow
@centurionmk.1365
@centurionmk.1365 3 года назад
S14 ...
@FrancaisMaggle
@FrancaisMaggle 4 года назад
Rooo ils étaient chaud patates pour celle là 😂👌. Bonne guerre sur la piste !
@stance076
@stance076 4 года назад
This is so fun to watch I wish I could race with them
@your_stepdad
@your_stepdad 2 года назад
that lan evo is a monster
@scareyaf
@scareyaf 8 лет назад
Hahaha noticed the start music is a huge rocky rip off. Just makes it more awesome.
@edzgt5243
@edzgt5243 7 лет назад
scareyaf you fucken druggo
@TonyEG6
@TonyEG6 6 лет назад
scareyaf sass mate
@crunchy3651
@crunchy3651 5 лет назад
Absolute druggo
@N.n.i.k
@N.n.i.k 5 лет назад
hah...what ya know mate
@mugmushrooms9845
@mugmushrooms9845 2 года назад
Year 2100AD and these videos still brings the child in me
@pdr_2703
@pdr_2703 2 года назад
Thanks for the subtitles
@Kypcia
@Kypcia 5 лет назад
7:06 gap closed so quick!
@inoculati0n
@inoculati0n 5 лет назад
man that AE86 sounds awesome, cool car
@TheReid1233
@TheReid1233 6 лет назад
Nobody gana talk about that beautiful rx7? Last to second, first if given another lap. Rotaries are insane.
@p.clarke8019
@p.clarke8019 8 лет назад
the more I watch these videos the more I love japanese cars absolutely love them!
@GrauHer
@GrauHer 7 лет назад
Ohh... I'm in love of that turbo flutters...
@waste4245
@waste4245 2 года назад
That S14 looks beautiful with the three spokes, have to say
@bernardovti
@bernardovti 9 лет назад
Great video
@mastercc4509
@mastercc4509 2 года назад
Have always loved these but people need to realize there was some choreography and this was more of an exhibition than a real race. Super fun tho. Been watching these since I lived on the mountain. Still have an s14 with an ls2 in the garage. Getting another RB was gonna cost too much sadly.
@user-wr5mf4nv1n
@user-wr5mf4nv1n 5 лет назад
何があったのか知らないけど、この号は全員始めから本気の全開ガチンコだなぁ。 BMでもHVでも1周目から、ここまで本気モードの映像って極めて少ない。安全マージンを相当削っているもの。
@user-wr5vk7gl6e
@user-wr5vk7gl6e 3 года назад
バトル後に殴り合いしたらしいよ
@zel6274
@zel6274 3 года назад
I love how Japanese drivers are super serious and sharp in their movements but laugh a few times in the battle ;)
@stews7
@stews7 5 лет назад
FEEDs red shop car. One of my favorite JDM cars ever.
@blackhawk95373
@blackhawk95373 2 года назад
That was awesome!
@howieewalt1322
@howieewalt1322 4 года назад
First 5 seconds made this completely worth.
@oscarzt1652
@oscarzt1652 6 лет назад
why does the hachi roku sound like it's misfiring on corner exit?
@cvgbcs
@cvgbcs 9 лет назад
love this program, what year was it aired on tv?
@miroshi
@miroshi 9 лет назад
1997 I guess
@cvgbcs
@cvgbcs 9 лет назад
i was too young :( but the 90's cars generation will always be my favorite. Another quick question, wheres do you get the "raws"?
@miroshi
@miroshi 9 лет назад
Japan
@myrips2fat
@myrips2fat 9 лет назад
***** hotversiongt they upload stuff on their youtube channel. and sell these videos on vimeo and stuff. They just had a fundraiser to continue the series and it raised well over their goal.
@carbonboy925
@carbonboy925 7 лет назад
S14 baby!!! yessssssssszszz ❤❤
@felipezikadobaile21
@felipezikadobaile21 8 лет назад
caraio onde esses cara arruma esses video ,curti ,ali e pal a pal , quem pilota melhor leva
@EbolaSquirrel
@EbolaSquirrel 4 года назад
gotta love the track used on this from the movie "chonky"
@RdSAW11
@RdSAW11 8 лет назад
..I can't like this video enough..! Urgh.. what an awesome assortment of cars..
@shirolee
@shirolee 4 года назад
Damn, this battle is so intense!!!!!
@KevinCastro-ly1mx
@KevinCastro-ly1mx 9 лет назад
Los japoneses si que saben divertirse. Great Vídeo!!!!
@JujutsuHeiho
@JujutsuHeiho 8 лет назад
I actually hate the last part of that track design. It's where all the good handling low powered cars get ate up. The Civic and AE86 probably would of been ahead of that section wasn't there. The whole course is good besides that last part. It's a turbo car only section since it is an uphill stretch.
@TheBb6prelude
@TheBb6prelude 8 лет назад
yes I definitely agree ,that uphill kills every NA car. NA cars just don't have the torque for the uphill compared to the turbo cars,maybe a very aggressive NA built paired with super short gears will hold its own .
@ivannosic9570
@ivannosic9570 8 лет назад
+f2b.....f20bEG remember that those N/A are even smaller in displacement than their turbo opponents so this comp it is very Unffair I mean 1.6cc N/A vs 2.0 and 2.1cc turbo... but those turbo had to be replaced at the end of the race so turbos are also more expensive to race tho
@TheBb6prelude
@TheBb6prelude 8 лет назад
Ivan Nosic a k20 or k24 setup with a 5.1 final drive would make a big difference.
@DoubleCGamesStudios
@DoubleCGamesStudios 8 лет назад
+Ivan Nosic No, i don't think that the displacement was the problem. The real problem was indeed, the big power gap between the N/A cars and Turbo ones. The big bonus on Turbo vehicles is they have a huge advantage on straight segments, having the boost pushing them. For example, if the Civic would have been even lighter and a bit more powerful, it could have been in the top 3. Same with Tsuchiya's 86, it could have even won the race. If you want to be sure about this, check the video when Tsuchiya, Orido race against a GT-R.
@ivannosic9570
@ivannosic9570 8 лет назад
+DoubleC the displacement gets Magnified and therefore the power/torque when you compare 2 engines specially moded ones so if you really want a more balanced comp. you/they should try smaller turbo engined cars against bigger N/A and NOT with same displacement ir even bigger on turbocharged ones wich is absolutely UNfair... but you got it right about the extra puch on stright segments but remember that turbo engines suffer way more on tricky tracks due to temp and stress variations thats a fact.
@zariffadhiljauhari7927
@zariffadhiljauhari7927 5 лет назад
woww.... sugoii 😮 👏👏👏👍
@mokoham2471
@mokoham2471 4 года назад
織戸学若いけど声が全く変わらないのねw
@MrQuick92
@MrQuick92 9 лет назад
Very intense
@fullbass1426
@fullbass1426 4 года назад
That ae86 is amazing in the corners.
@WeiJie_Chen
@WeiJie_Chen 7 лет назад
Rx7 FD3S is the best^^
@hachirokuae8657
@hachirokuae8657 2 года назад
I like the beginning of the video
@naughtyinu3909
@naughtyinu3909 2 года назад
beautiful!!!
@Tony-112
@Tony-112 5 лет назад
That S14 was going for a Sunday drive lol
@axelanzueta2462
@axelanzueta2462 5 лет назад
And what happen to all of them they still doo new videos?
@vainxler
@vainxler 8 лет назад
How many rpm for this AE86 at max power? Probably very high..but torque is low.
@avanjob205
@avanjob205 3 года назад
Damn those rims are so retro now :D So sad that the evo3 had a flat tire LoL
@golf1diesel
@golf1diesel 4 года назад
Keisuke vs Seiji(EVO borrowed from SUdou Kyoichi),Yellow Civic is Tomoyuki,AE86 Takumi :D
@dragking9735
@dragking9735 4 года назад
the FD3S runs like a daily driven car without a sweat, that rpm only runs at 7-8k rpm, i wonder if it push pass to 9k
@Charvel86
@Charvel86 5 лет назад
I was on the edge of my seat, AE86 WOW!
@luthfihaidilputra1173
@luthfihaidilputra1173 2 года назад
Nice opening
@CranialStomp562
@CranialStomp562 4 года назад
That's some clean downshifting
@franz2383
@franz2383 6 лет назад
greatest battle!
@dailymods9308
@dailymods9308 5 лет назад
@9:38 The rx7 shot a beautiful flame
@flavrdPnut
@flavrdPnut 4 года назад
I dig this shit! These guys are great
@thedailygossip9109
@thedailygossip9109 9 лет назад
the engine upgrades and bigger parts do add more power
@magnum7068
@magnum7068 2 года назад
Watching tsuchia driving is so satisfying
@petertimowreef9085
@petertimowreef9085 2 года назад
I always thought these guys were just playing Gran Turismo in real life. But then it occured to me that it's exactly the other way around: The makers of Gran Turismo just made a game out of what Best Motoring does irl.
@boostjunkie2320
@boostjunkie2320 Год назад
This is pure solid gold!!!!
@alanhoward4082
@alanhoward4082 5 лет назад
90's JDM cars all day
@syedshah345
@syedshah345 4 года назад
Best subtitle
@_kylejohnson_
@_kylejohnson_ 5 лет назад
Why does that eight six have two valve covers with oil caps..?
@user-ft3pf8cu8m
@user-ft3pf8cu8m 2 года назад
マジで良い時代だと思います。
@vancehibberd1546
@vancehibberd1546 4 года назад
Awesome
@Toyota4Life
@Toyota4Life 7 лет назад
Toyota Corolla is such a beast. Oldest car there and it still kicks ass
@LucasBakker
@LucasBakker 7 лет назад
Is it me or is Tsuchiya his car running awfull? Is sound like it is holding back at around 5500-6000 (est), is it running rich?
@TheBb6prelude
@TheBb6prelude 4 года назад
That's the difficulty about tuning those old carb motors.
@mauricemotors8207
@mauricemotors8207 4 года назад
@@TheBb6prelude Most of those engines are all EFI besides the AE
@Drifter5696
@Drifter5696 4 года назад
@@mauricemotors8207 4age was efi aswell but it is mpi
@MistRVertexZ
@MistRVertexZ 8 лет назад
S14 power!! :3
@superjervis
@superjervis 9 лет назад
@ 7:00 lol
@user-fp6ng9ec8u
@user-fp6ng9ec8u 6 лет назад
The Opinionator IKE DORI DORI
@gabrielsabode
@gabrielsabode 6 лет назад
9:38 the dorito seems to be getting a little angry.
@FuckPunkers
@FuckPunkers 5 лет назад
Aren't the cars supposed to be 1.6L or below?
@Asap_Cars
@Asap_Cars 8 лет назад
That FD was a monster
@goracks69
@goracks69 7 лет назад
That Civic is a great car! Bur an N/A 1.6L stroked to 1.8L is no match for a turbo 2.0L
@okj156
@okj156 2 года назад
イントロが秀逸
@babylov3r
@babylov3r 2 года назад
4wd weakness is in corner sector. Evo 3 got good pick up after past the corner.
@cluckinbell1974
@cluckinbell1974 6 лет назад
that satisfying stutututu!
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