As a self-preserving 4, I loved your video on us, but THIS....this is so amazing and I can't imagine anyone better than a sexual 4 (who's also a therapist) that can get into the psyche of an 8 with as much depth and compassion. If I were an 8, I would feel so damn understood and accepted right now. You get their Shadow and gently hold that scary mirror up to them, all the while telling them the tool they need to face it with is already in their instinctive arsenal; to use their anger to face their fear. Ugh.. loved it.
I’m gonna say this ranks as one of the best feedbacks I’ve ever received. Very humbled and honored to hear your words Rachelle. Thanks for inspiring me today Drew
I'm so sorry, but what you say simply doesn't make sense. If you were an 8 with an 8 brain you would not be looking for understanding and acceptance in a video on YT (or even at all). Most probably you'd be primarily looking for straightforward information that's well organised and just in the way it approaches the subject. Only the non existing 8 with a 4 brain could indeed "feel so damn understood and accepted" after watching a video about 8s. No offence. I just don't appreciate this construct of "If I were xyz, I would feel/do/think/etc." and my fascination with enneagram is pretty much in the way it teaches us why we should never do it. And how wrong we can be if we do :)
You had mentioned most of my empowering songs, mostly I play them when I'm pissed off and can´t release my anger to not to hurt people... I'm a sexual 8w9, female, and live in a very man praising country...so, same song repeating over and over until I calm down lol.
This was so amazing- it hurt and healed. The gluttony and lust section, I grabbed the fries and sauce. 😅 and yes to need to have strong people who can push back.
Thanks for watching Rebekah and for the affirmation! If at all interested send me your email through instagram or my email to be on my mailing list Insta - @drewnewkirkpsychotherapy OR Drew@DrewNewkirk.com Either way, I appreciate you Drew
This is super interesting to be because as an 8, ( and a cat lover lol ) I CANT STAND 3s. I see them as frauds and as weak because they are so dependent on the attention and approval of others. I am, admittedly a loner and an introvert and maybe that’s part of the reason why I find them so grating - they are all so extroverted and demanding of undeserved attention.
@@antoinepaul78 No problem, glad it helped. I appreciate you sharing 😉 If interested send me your email through instagram or my email to be on my mailing list Insta - @drewnewkirkpsychotherapy OR Drew@DrewNewkirk.com Hope all is well and thanks for reaching out Drew
Trainspotting OMG Right up there with the movies Pi and Requiem for a Dream. It took twenty ------ years. Boom baby. Keep on dropping these gems on the wheel world brother!!!
This is so interesting as a 4 married to an 8. That anger was a huge point of tension early into our relationship but as we've been together almost a decade now, I see that anger isn't always anger for them. Anger is sadness, jealously, shame, etc. All the negative emotions look like anger. But with a tiny bit of digging/prodding, the true emotion comes out and he usually just needs a good cry/vent session and he's back to being a loving and loveable goofball. But boy, I tell ya the truth. Year 1-3, I just say him As an a**hole without reason.
My big brother is a definite 8w7 sx and has never heard of the Enneagram. Have sent him this and I'm intrigued to learn how he takes it. Much love to you Drew, I really appreciate your work, hope life is treating you well.
I didn't bully, but I was bullied. I definitely seek justice for wrongs that I see. I have been called the silent hero by a CIO at a previous organization.
So sorry for the delay. Thanks so much for watching! I put a hard boundary on my time in the last year so I could write a book, which I just finished the first draft 🙌🏼 Know that I always appreciate every remark/response and try to get back to each and every one. If at all interested send me your email through instagram or my email to be on my mailing list Insta - @drewnewkirkpsychotherapy OR Drew@DrewNewkirk.com Hope all is well and thanks for reaching out Drew
My interest has recently been peaked for learning about the enneagram & I found you here. I am also a self-preserving 4, like the commenter below, with a 5 wing. That's probably the reason I have been binge listening to all of your overview videos in numerical order to find out more about my type (I took a test), my daughter & my husband's (he did not take a test). This really hit the nail on the head about him! He is a Get 'R Done kind of guy! I really appreciate all your insights into the nuances of this number & what can be beneficial for an 8's balance and health. Now, let's see if I can get him to watch this video. I look forward to learning about the sub-types of this number & learning about wings. I second the comment about a wanting to see video about the relationship between a 4 & an 8. I will look for it on your channel. Thanks again!
Oh it’s definitely there. I have a video on that 4/8 connection. Thanks so much for watching and so cool you’re doing it in order. Now that I finished the 4 overview I’ve got all the numbers covered. Let me know if he ever watches 🙌🏼 Drew
Been waiting on this! Can you do a relationship between 4 and 8's please!!!!!! Do you know that relationship personally? Thanks for the content..... (Stimulating)
You know I’m on it brother! It’s finished but may take a bit before I post it as I’m away for a bit but actually really loved doing it and it’s filmed. Subtypes coming tomorrow Thanks again for investing the time Drew
I'm a cat and dog 8. I love all size cats. My favorite dog breeds: Rotties, Pitties and Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs. I’m not MMA, but I LOVE being around that energy and I do enjoy that type of exercise. Lifting weights too. All of my 8 traits are based in childhood experiences/traumas. When you are taught what happens in the family stays in the family, it’s hard to be vulnerable and trust who you tell. And this is why I do the work I do; for myself and others! I definitely look for the unicorn, but that is because at this point it is very rare that I find a therapist who tells me something I don’t already know about myself. But then again, I overthink, over evaluate, highly self-analyze, self-criticize, and I’m a psychotherapist who has been in therapy on and off since I was 5yrs old. I use my clients as my mirror, I give them the power to tell me what is beneficial about how I show up as a therapist and what I need to work on. I do these check in’s with them every time I feel the therapy is at a standstill, if they are discharging from the program, or they are choosing to switch therapists. Thank you for this video and I'd love to connect fellow therapist to therapist, if you're interested @the.atypical.therapist
So sorry for the delay. Thanks so much for watching! I put a hard boundary on my time in the last year so I could write a book, which I just finished the first draft 🙌🏼 Know that I always appreciate every remark/response and try to get back to each and every one. Reach out on Insta - @drewnewkirkpsychotherapy OR Drew@DrewNewkirk.com And remind me of this message 👍🏼 Hope all is well and thanks for reaching out Drew
I’m an 8w9 so/sx and to answer your question- I am most definitely a cat person. I love that they don’t need me around much and we can just do our own things- they occasionally sit in my lap and I sometimes pick them up. My lovable little assholes. I’m also 5’3” and approaching 50 y/o. I’ve always felt big, strong and capable. Now, I definitely feel the comment about how our bodies pay the price for the grinding pace. Having to learn how to pace myself and ask, “I know I can do it, but should I do it?” Then face having to ask or pay for help doing the thing- right now that would be laying new vinyl floors in my house. I know I can, but also know I probably shouldn’t.
Covid forced solitude on us. It’s been quite an exercise in patience, yes ! As you stated. I get tired of myself when forced to be alone. Ironically I’ve been solitary most of my life tho not by my design. I remember hugging my child self around the same time God led me to forgive my mom. A time of tender emotion
Covid, what a mind screw we went through. So sorry for the delay. Thanks so much for watching! I put a hard boundary on my time in the last year so I could write a book, which I just finished the first draft 🙌🏼 Know that I always appreciate every remark/response and try to get back to each and every one. If at all interested send me your email through instagram or my email to be on my mailing list Insta - @drewnewkirkpsychotherapy OR Drew@DrewNewkirk.com Hope all is well and thanks for reaching out Drew
Not me binging in my researching habits the past month and neglecting my own health (brain fog is crazy), while watching this. Yet I’m still not confident of myself being an E8. By the way, what’s your opinion on tritypes?
Miley Cirus 7w8?, "Wrecking Ball." If Bruce is 7w8 that song lyric you mentioned is a perfect example of a hard wing 8. The hard 7w8 and 8w7 might have to be hit with chasms of life to really grow. Don't we all? But I feel ya! Ha!
Yep! Have clients all over since starting RU-vid Reach out at drew@drewnewkirk.com or @drewnewkirkpsychotherapy on instagram and reference this call and let’s do some life-changing shit 👊🏼
I was raised by an unhealthy 8. I def wasn’t born an 8 I was def a type 2 that trauma and life made into an 8. Let’s just say everything he was I didn’t want to be. He struggled with vulnerability I embraced it because he couldn’t. I guess I am a weird type 8 but my driving force has always been in defiance. 😂
I hear some of the similarities with 4. I am finding myself to be a SP 4w3. Can you share more differences between the 8 and 4 subtypes? Thanks always!!!!! I love your videos!
It did, thank you. I actually had an appointment with you a few years ago and decided I figured it out or had some family issues... I can't remember now. At 63 I resonate with the 4 deeply (not feeling unique but longing for unique and soecial) and with other numbers. But, not 7 because I'm fine with dark feeling and experiencing, and not 2 because I'm ultimately too selfish to do- I only want to be with to experience (other than working with children), and not 9 because I'm too emotionally vigilant. 8 is meaningful, like 6....I am learning a lot in this dive and your work is very helpful, again. Maybe I'll figure it out. 😉 Thanks!!!
Ha! Sorry and did not sorry 😂 thanks for watching along and trusting me to not be a total asshole but just a bit of one. Hope it helped. Hope you are following my Instagram if you’re on it, @drewnewkirkpsychotherapy Drew
Hi Drew! Hope you are doing well. I have a question for you. I just re did an enneagram test. I tend to do sometimes as my awareness of myself opens up with new situations. I did the truity one. My results show that dominant is 5 close followed by 9 and 7. The 4th one is number 4. From reading and reading over the last 20 years. I feel more connected to the fear of being weak. But in terms of results..if I am a true 8, I would be using more my wings and the 5 where I would go down to. I put à lot of attention into seeing the positive into things and I like to just accept things as they are .. like life is life we just have to accept it the way it is. Emotions, mind etc etc also I fear conflict and understand à lot other people motive... I study a lot a lot my world around and especially peoples inner life. I need to understand a situation to feel more ready to act in it and need to be Alone and time to process my emotion toward something before I can express myself and how I feel. My question is... could I be an 8 who, because of an abusive past, pushed more the wings and desintegrated type reaction because it was unsafe for me to fight for myself at the time. Or would I be a 5? That was more in the 8 as a child and the more I "grew" the more I returned to it hence why I'm feeling closer to 8 now ? I relate much to the description of the type 5 fears... I'm very confused. But can our wings dominate? Thank you so much
This will be an unsatisfying response. We are so unique and our stories so complex. I would hate to even try to shed light on this without way more information that would require more than one session. What I’d suggest is that you find some other eyes, a therapist or coach, that can lend wisdom to this at a deeper level with more time spent with you. it would be unfair for me to even guess or guide in this way without way more connection to the narrative. But I love the question and think it is worth you exploring more.
@@drewnewkirk thank you Drew! No no I love your answer and yes, if it's worth exploring because it's a great question, I will do so. I really want to understand myself ahah 🙏