@@professional.commentator It might just be that every generation will be more screwed than the last now. And then we'll die out. Late capitalism is fun.
more like catch 22: - to get paid for your labor then you need a professional job - to get a professional job that pays you for your labor then you need ptofessional experience - to get professional experience then you need a job that pays for your labor then they ask why we say the world is mad!
@@d.n5287 It’s not the same thing. With time came changes in language. Meek wasn’t originally synonymous with weak. It used to means being strong, but humble. Basically, if being strong was having a sword and being weak was having no sword, then being meek meant having a sword but keeping it sheated unless necessary. The knights of the round table in medieval literature were described as meek, but they weren’t weak. They were exceptional warriors. The greek word from wich meek was translated was also used to describe war horse. Would you call a war horse ‘weak’?
i saw one engineering position that said "must have 4 yrs experience minimum" and also "accepting engineer-in-training" which is a title you get if you have less than 4 years of experience
just say you have 4 years school experience . better yet, "I have 4 years working experience as a student, instead of the school paying me, I pay the school. Imagine how nice I was back then, u should hire me for my 4 year expertise in school"
I would just ignore how many years of experience they say they’re asking for (within reason, of course) and apply anyway. That’s an “ideal” candidate but doesn’t mean anything.
"What's with this 20 years gap in your work history?" "Well I was born" It really be like that tho when I was 18 this interviewer asked me why I didn't have any work experience... until a few month ago it was literally illegal for me to get a job without my parents permission so...
I had 5-6 differnent jobs between the ages of 14-18.. it was a good way to learn what I really enjoyed doing. But yes, as a minor, this does require parental consent.
As a retail manager I never asked about experience, I asked how they thought retail works how they think they would contribute, why they felt I should hire them specifically without being generic. This usually weeded out kids that were forced their by their parents and kids that wanted a job and could use critical thinking skills. Plus you could get some very funny answers with the don't be generic line.
Depending on the personality of the interviewer that actually can help get you the job to say that. However if you misread the person they might end the interview right there
Any job offer like that is trying to lowball you. Those are not entry level jobs, they are mid tier at least, and often shouldn't pay less than like $20 an hour more or less. Especially if you have experience and a degree and crap.
Do most people go out of university with 0 job experience or something? Seems fairly simple to get at least a few jobs you can put on your resume the show you're a "go getter" and a "team player" or something. Don't put those on your resume though.
I once had a mock interview during high school and the college girl interviewing me took point off because i was “inexperienced” i have no idea what she expected from a 17 year old doing a MOCK INTERVIEW
I had one where a recruiter sent me like five unsolicited emails and when I finally agreed to an interview, first question was “why should we hire you over other applicants?” I stared at him for clarification that he was serious, and then said, “well, your recruiter reached out five times, so clearly you see something in my resume that really interests you. Can you tell me why I should work for you over other companies?” I got the offer but it was a massive low-ball
@@moazim1993 bangali last names can get weird. My moms last name is Anwar because my grandpas first name is Anwarul. While all my moms brothers have their last name as Haque because that's my grandpa's last name.
The part about them refusing to tell you job specifications was so relatable. I actually turned down two sudden offers for promotions because my boss just absolutely refused to describe what I would be specifically doing in my new position. Every time he tried to skirt around it by acting like I asked a completely different question, it got more and more suspicious. Upon further investigation later, I realized that it was because those jobs straight up sucked. Paid a couple bucks more but ultimately it would've screwed over my schedule, my mental and physical health, my respect among coworkers, and it would've thrust me into a department I knew very little about. So yeah, whether it's getting initially hired or talking about a "promotion", always get the specifics of what you'll be doing and what conditions you'll be under.
Meanwhile Im sending applications to every even distantly engineering related jobs....even if I barely knew anything about them. So hard to start a career when every place requires experienced people
I once almost got demoted from Junior back to Intern after 2.5 years work. The higher ups decided to have new salary levels, that raised the bar for what salary fits to every position, so the managers simply lowered everyone's position to match their current salary. I was effectively lowered back to level 0, described as "promising internship". Needless to say, talks about obtaining medior position became impossible and I got pretty close to being fired when I would not sign for the internship position. Even after that, they still delayed correcting my wage to the new minimum indefinitely. Half year later I got a new job with 50% wage increase and way less stressful. At my new job they just give me constant pay increases without me having to even ask for it. It's a completely different world.
I once had an interview where the recruiter oversold my skills so hard that from the very beginning of the interview on it felt like they tried everything in their power to convince me to start at their company. they didn't even want me to answer ANY questions and just kept repeating how they would love to work with me. it was the weirdest interview ever. I then ended up getting an offer as a tech lead for an entire team even tho I haven't had any fulltime programming experience at all. I declined it and the recruiter got mad at me lol
I have been in similar situations. Usually recruiters from secondment agencies who are desperate because nobody that is actually qualified wants the job.
This is a prime example of what's wrong with industry in general: lies at every corner. Genuine talent and experience gets thrown out the window in favor of over-sold randos with no experience or pure and simple nepotism. I've heard stories of people being denied a job when they have tons of qualifications because somebody who works in the administration knows another person with zero qualifications who happens to be their cousin or something. Incidentally it's how I got my internship at some random company one winter: my sister was a corporate executive. I did data entry the whole time but I knew I wouldn't have been looked at had she not worked there. The kicker: I studied physics, not business or accounting. I was unqualified (not that Excel requires qualifications, but someone may have needed an internship there for their degree requirements, idk). This whole corporate-government system is corrupt to the bones. I hope it all collapses.
You should have just lied, everyone else does. I had guys lie about experience all the time when I was interviewing. That's why people can't do jobs right when they are supposed to be "master mechanics" or whatever other bs they push.
Entry level job. Pays $15 an hour, requires 3 years experience and a bachelor's degree Edit: Thanks for the likes, this comment was inspired by the truly ridiculous job listings I found while actually looking for a job.
dead ass, I'm looking at potential careers but they start at 14, 17 at most. I'm making 20 in a warehouse that called me the same day I applied. You don't even have to be sober!!
@@jamescrock2213 People talk about how "kids today" don't want to work these crap office jobs, but I'm like ... everybody I know makes way better money serving and bartending (well, did). If you'd... I don't know... budget your new hires competitively maybe you'd actually get some takers
“How do you expect to get a job if you’ve never had a job?” Simple, just start your own factory, earn a few million dollars and bribe the HR to hire you.
I guess im lucky that in Germany apprenticeship are needed to legally work in a job. Wich results in 3 years work experience. And most times they just keep you couse they now what they teached you.
@@professional.commentator how long is a normal internship ? If it is like 6 months long, the company has a good base to decide if they want to keep you or if they think that its not worth to invest there time in you.
Legit was asked once in an interview “what are your career goals” when I responded with “honestly I’d love to work at a company with a ladder for advancement in place, one that recognizes hard work with results, but I definitely understand I have to put my time in”. The response I got was “yeah we definitely know millennials like to be appreciated so we appreciate our millennials.” SMH lol
because its true :)) most HR doesn't know what specifics each job requires they, at best if they have some interest in people the information at large. Lucky for me, most of the time i did get that type of hr person on the other end. But you won't get specifics, especially since most projects are confidential.
@@autumnrogers2933 unless the job there would involve doing a lot of stuff and listing everything would take to damm long, I do not see why they would act like that for food service or retail 0.0 i get it in engineering, programing, designing and a bunch of others that they can't tell to much but the domains you listed. Idk other than the HR girl or guy doesn't give a fuck
Also got my bachelors this year, just apply to everything even if they write 2 years experience required. Dont put too much pressure on yourself, one of them will certainly give you a job
Its all but your fault that you graduated in 2020. Should've graduated back in 2013 and get the 7 years of experience before 2020. Where you been duh? (joking, I am same. Graduated in May, still looking for a job :/ )
@@Chitario I applied to jobs where they required 2 years of experience for specific skills, I had 3....well apparently I wasn't technically qualified somehow. Its not even enough to get an experience in the general field of work you're applying. You need experience with a SPECIFIC task with a surgical precision doing EXACTLY same things at your last job compared to what you will be doing to be counted as experience.
Artem Morozov looool you’re so right, I shoulda started learning about Risk Management (what i’m going into) when I was like 5 just to get a small head start 🥲🥲
"you know I was actually this close to hiring you, but I just felt you lacked ambition with the 'next 5 years' question, you should have aimed for the head... office" *snaps*
Can we have a moment of silence for those gradutating in the middle of a pandemic where most companies aren't even thinking about hiring people for most positions?
@@nighthawkviper6791 what a joke. If airlines can’t afford to pay livable wages for jobs that require a degree, then its quite obvious that privatization of the airline industry has failed. I say we nationalize airlines so that we (taxpayers) don’t have to bail them out every couple of years while executives, in the mean time, spend billions on stock buybacks so that their stock compensation packages grow as large as possible, all while employees face dwindling wages and reduced hours...burn it the fuck down!!
@@geemorales3555 yes this ist the exception. if you are an engineer you will always find good jobs. first of all because there is a heavy demand on those jobs no matter what because only a few people are able to achieve such a degree but also tech businesses run well during a pandemic and some companies even have higher demand than ever before (for example pharamaceuticals) ... but have a degree in something else and you are done right now. :/
Me: *applies at Company 1* *1 month passes by* Me: *Gets a job at conpany 2* Company 1: "Thanks for applying, please complete the online test and we'll let you know if you're shortlisted"
"You unemployed thousands" Employer: it was random and fair.. This company Is finite and it's budget is finite and now our check book is balanced, as all things should be.
Me, 2 years ago, getting interviewed, 3 apps on the PlayStore, 1 government entity interested on acquiring one of my apps. 1 programing award Worked with some silicon valley companies including google Interviewer: Sorry but you did not qualify for a junior Android Developer. Go to university and apply again when u finish your master's... The girl from HR did try to convince the boss on hiring me during the interview but with no success. He was also kind of a dick, I'm used to call people that I don't know personally Sr. it's a matter of respect, I'm so used to this that I say it without thinking, but he got pissed during the interview because he wanted me to refer to him in a causal way
Tiago Oliveira lol I can just imagine “so tell me about some of your experience” “yeah alright dude so like I made this one thing that some other dudes wanna buy but like, I’m just not sure” XD
Another similarity between jobs and gfs: You can only get one after you have an established history of them, without any big gap in between. Being 'fired' is way worse than doing the dumping. Can't appear too desperate for one. And the mere act of getting one increases your desirability by several whole factors; you basically can't shake them off.
My favorite interview question: Tell us about a time you were racist, sexist, homophobic, ageist, or discriminated against someone because of their religious or cultural background and how did you resolve that issue? Umm... I don't do those sorts of things... Don't worry. We'll give you a little time to think about.
"Have you ever used xyz" "I used it once briefly" "Okay well that's still more than any of us have done, so that makes you our resident expert" I have legitimately had this conversation several times
The REALEST part about this is waiting and usually never receiving a message about not getting the job. Just send the goddamn message telling me I didn’t get it.
@@failedsample-astra You’re so used to being treated poorly by companies that you make excuses for lack of basic courtesy. I’m a professional. If I show up for an on-site (taking a PTO to do it) after multiple phone screens and technical screens, the LEAST a company can do is shoot me an email letting me know I didn’t get the job. Especially if I request that basic courtesy directly and they agree.
I got hired by answering one of the questions with "Why would you need that information". The security advisor of the company hired me because I was the only applicant who refused the question
Ha! I gave an answer like that once on an application. They decided to bring me on, until halfway through the hiring paperwork apparently somebody actually looked at my answers on the application, decided I was rebellious and not a team player, and decided not to hire me after all. Glad it worked out better for you!
Masterers in bed, general when dead, assasin from the skies, the teller of golden lies, spotter of spies, felatio of demise, cleaner of cream pies "Allright cheks out welcome to wendys"
i literally saw something like that a couple days ago. bachelors in law required to summarize legal documents in laymans terms for clients. starting pay $10 hr.
Zach Star Himself wise choice indeed, now because old subscribers will mostly see them all in a row, the channel will be promoted fast by the algorithm
The worst thing is when you actually are an expert in four scripting languages, have taken four years of CS focus, literally taught a class on cybersecurity, but because you've been in college you've only had internships so you don't have enough experience.
ya dude I feel you. I get I'm not THE MOST experienced wizard of programming in a bunch of different languages, admittedly, but I got 2 degrees (EE/biometrics), been using basically every big scripting language there is since middle school, hobby projects in a rainbow of languages doing anything/everything I could think of just to broaden my skillset, and multiple internships & jobs in the defense industry (DC area). But because I never had the chance to do one single framework professionally for a long stretch, I'm apparently not "experienced" enough to get a legit job. It's been hell ever since graduating. Basically out of options at this point and gonna go work for the USPS or something
Right? I feel this way but I’m in the sports industry. I’ve worked for more teams than some of the people that have interviewed me, I’ve managed an entire team for 5 years, worked for multiple teams at once, and I constantly get people or interviewers who go “so are you sure you want to enter the sports industry?” Hello I’ve been in it for years and I’m more than qualified for this job.
@@GNParty I know bunch of people who got jobs after just 2-3 month long QA Automation courses. CS degree is a waste of time I think, you don't need a degree to code. Why would anyone care if you can bisect a frog, solve triple integral or tell them a history of the transgender movement?
that sucks. my step dad was telling me about his friend who was declined loads of jobs at like 45-50 yrs old or around there for being overqualified. like sorry what>????? how could they be overqualified and u not want them because of that omg. and I bet they still said to other people with loads of qualifications they didn't have enough....
I graduated college this May, got a job in February, relocated for it and started in July, and a week ago I got a call telling me I didn’t get a job I applied for in November 😂
The entry level biology job i applied to required 5 publications, a masters degree and 4 years experience. In the interview I asked them how they expected to pay people so little (at the time 22k) but ask for so much, especially at entry level. They said they had no issues with it. On the lab tour it was 100% only people from China, 90% of whom did not speak English (despite working in england) and were brought over from China by the company to work there.....
Outsourcing jobs has absolutely killed America. We will not recover from this. The corrupt political establishment has to answer to God for what they've done to a once strong, God-fearing nation.
Sounds like they were intentionally making the job terrible so no Englanders would apply and they could hire people from overseas. Why they wanted Chinese people instead is a different question entirely...
The important lesson here is not explicitly stated. An abusive interview is a sign of an abusive employer. Abusive employers should be avoided. You should be prepared to walk out of an interview if abusive questions are thrown at you.
My favorite corner I've painted myself and a panel into so far: "Considering that you are the transportation engineers, and I have stated that my planned area of emphasis in civil would be water resources - I could have described my transportation engineering experience more if I knew what position I was interviewing for." Response: "We honestly aren't sure what position you are interviewing for either."
The excel thing hits too close to home. I took a Microsoft Office in my junior year of highschool. So yes, I have Microsoft office knowledge. The problem is every teacher I had said NEVER use it in highschool. So now I remember that there is are some equals signs, colons, a vague idea of what you can do. And how to google ALL of it
@@Christopher._M Most programming today is done by researching the internet while writing code. If that is no longer possible, then it is much more easy and practical to make systems in spreadsheets.
This reminds me of something I heard about a guy who applied for a job at a company that used a new technology and required at least 5 years of experience. The guy didn't get the job. The technology was 4 years old and the guy applying invented it.
My Mom testing my responses: So, what do you think was the most valuable thing you got out of your last job. Me: ........Money. My Mom: Okay, that's not wrong, but maybe don't say that when they ask this at a job interview.
I was asked "why do you want to work at Yankee Candle" for a job interview at Yankee Candle once. I thought about it for longer than i'd like and finally just said, "Because I need money."
Entry level jobs legit want you to have a bachelor's degree or better, want you to be fluent in Klingon and/or ancient Greek, want you to have interned for 2 years at NASA, to have studied abroad in Fiji or Narnia and want letters of recommendation from Einstein, God, and Bill Gates. All for a position that pays less than $18/hour 😑😑😑 And don't get me started on the 2 hour long interviews and the assessment tests that have NOTHING whatsoever to do with the position I'm applying for. And that's just been my experience with the jobs I'm OVER qualified for.
This actually exposed to me how in many cases the whole interview process is setup as a psychological groveling process to break the applicant into starting to behave as an employee as opposed to an honest way to get to know you and figure out if you’re a good fit.
@UCj8QM2W-60lDgom4krg5bnQ I'm pretty sure that person meant to say "sometimes corporate interviews and brainwashing are the same thing" and not that "brainwashing and an honest way to get to know you are the same thing".
@@theoverseer1775 I interpret it as brainwashing under the guise of corporate whatever is an acceptable thing, but I do see your point. Jury's and I guess. If they think what I interpreted then my statement stands. If it's what you said then I would retract my statement.
You know what’s sad, a friend if mine has a Bachelor’s degree and every job he’s applied for said he’s either overqualified or under qualified. To me that makes no sense at all, you spend all your time and money and for what? This world is truly a fucked up place.
I actually got asked that “What would you do if you caught someone stealing a pencil” question when I applied to Best Buy and didn’t get the job. Applied again a few months later, and said I’d tell the manager and report the theft and they gave me the job.
6:31 - I love what is actually written on the resume, plus the bribe. Sometimes that feels like the only way anyone gets past the recruiting process at some companies.
Zach, I wanted to write out to you saying how thankful I am for the years that I have watched your content. From your comedy sketches to your in depth explanations of mathematical concepts and just watching your passion for math has been such a joy to me. I am a recent Mechanical Engineer graduate in GA and through the years, watching your content has inspired me during undergrad and gave me some direction in where I want to take my career as an engineer. Even now when I am struggling to find a job to start my career within my home state, watching videos like this really reminds me that even though the job search is difficult in our times, I can still laugh about my situation and not take it so seriously all the time. I hope you have been well and healthy throughout COVID and I love your content as a fanboy. Continue to make great videos and being an inspiration for many engineers like myself!
8:30 - I've definitely been there. This person's so lucky they actually got a call saying no - most times it never happens. I love the dystopian environmnet - reminds me of the good ole times when I did interviews.
Just got a job at Ace hardware, I spent about two hours preparing my answers for all the common interview questions, then when I went into the store the manager just had a normal conversation with me and then said I was hired. I was actually kind of upset that it was too easy, it felt like I overestimated them.
Yep. I had a few interviews and most of them were pretty normal. It's true you get some weird ones here and there, but not as often people make it to be.
My serious honesty in answering some questions on an online application were taken as humor by the manager, including: After filling out the entire online application that asked everything you'd usually put on a resume: "Please attach your resume." My reply in the additional notes section: "That would be redundant, as I just told you everything that is on my resume." I got the job. (a job that disappeared with Covid-related problems.) And I got that job 6 months after I applied... so I took another job in the meantime. I quit the meantime job on good terms with the staff/managers.
There’s definitely something wrong with the job market. I’ve been out of college since 2017, got a job that I thought would become a long term career but the hiring manager failed to tell me that the company was in financial restraints and ended up laying people off months later... I went back to working a part time job while searching for other opportunities. For awhile, I worked remotely on a 1099 but didn’t feel any type of job growth coming from it... I even became so desperate for income that I built my own small freelance business (I’m a writer) Finally after nearly a year, I got hired again... All of the jobs I interviewed with were entry level jobs but yet hired people with more experience so that they can pay them less... it makes no sense and it’s so frustrating!
It makes sense once you realize the goals of employees and employees are inherently at odds with one another, government does what lobbyists want them to do, companies have competing issues they need to solve such as," do I pay my worker's more or buyback stock", the modern corporate environment must overwork you and underpay you in order to keep existing, the organizations that historically represented workers interests are at a fifty year low in membership, that zombie companies are popping up like mad, and that half of all workers were unemployed at one point during the pandemic, 80 million people. Also the quit rate also went through the roof. I am so glad to be a NEET. From what I've understood from a lot of professors, is that this is just the further continuation of a trend that started in 1971. Otherwise known as neoliberalism.
