EP40: A GA's Daughter Speaks Out with Lila Tueller 

Awesome interview. She had much courage to leave, given her family's standing in the church. Good for her. I think her story will give others the courage to follow their heart and mind.

being a native San Diego and I’m very familiar with Hartman, Rector and always loved the fact that he was not a Utah ilk general authority especially since I served a two week mission under her father in the summer of 77 prior to going on my two-year mission. I love the Recters they were great people. And I will always be grateful to to Hartman Rector, for coming to bat for me and going against the Salt Lake general authorities opinion of my situation, because this in a sense, saved my life,and changed the course of my life for the better. The mission president he made the bet with. actually would turn out to be my mission president. That’s a story in itself. Though I am no longer in the church. I do still very much appreciate Lila and her family.

I really like the interview and discussion format. Hosts that do not over talk their guests!

What a story from someone whose father was near the center of the storm. Glad to see she realized the church is a fraud, and she got out of it. Nice that she is telling the story of what is is like as a GA child. Good interview.

Excellent. I had the same type of epiphanies after reading No Man Knows My History by Fawn Brodie. I wanted it all to be true, I even went to BYU hoping to be converted. In the eighties, when I was in my thirties, I read that book and it was the final push. When I was in, so long ago, I bristled at the suggestion that it was a cult. Now, to hear Lila say it, I want to cheer and shout, "Right On." It was all such a head game and am so glad that I did not bring my kids into it. Carry On and Keep Fighting the Madness!

Rebecca you are such a light . I love your sense in of humor you do an amazing job getting these subjects brought to light for all the world . Thank you so much ♥️

Great interview! Lila has a very important story and is a great lady herself! Her father and mother Connie were friends of mine. In fact, they helped me launch my first radio program series as my first guests. Thank u for your courageous story!

Loved this interview ... thanks for sharing! 💕

Fantastic interview! Thank you all for being so honest and candid about your journey. It is so helpful! 💝🙏💝

I grew up in Lila's ward in Orem. I was a few years older than her oldest daughter. They are an awesome family! I just left last year and seeing her on Mormon Stories was super helpful. My parents are still Very TBM... she has also always been Gorgeous ❤

Beautiful story! Thank You for sharing Lila.

Fantastic interview! Much appreciated

1:21:30 My husband served in this San Diego mission right after Hartman Rector Jr was mission president and heard all the stories about the crazy baptisms!!

Thank you very much about this podcast about a daugther of a GA,of Elder.Rector,I learned more about how life goes on.

You and I lived parallel lives. I just shared the interview with my ex husband..who is still my good friend. We’ve been divorced for 20 years ❤I found and received the facts about the church just 2 years ago.😮

I was a missionary in San Diego when Hartman Rector was the mission president. I am thankful Lila has the courage to speak the truth. Some of the stories about the San Diego mission as crazy as they really were have been blown out of proportion. Great interview. I love your show.

So relatable! especially the feeling when children can't let go of what I previously taught them. I literally told them repeatedly: If the church and I ever go different directions, follow the church. Of course, if they do follow the church as well as I did, they might just wind up where I am NOW. They might possibly be on the same road toward *eventual* awakening.

Excellent interview! I find it interesting how there is such a parallel between the church hierarchy any the old Soviet political system, and even modern Russian Z-patriot society, in that they all know something is fundamentally wrong, yet they still try to prop it up because of the fame and personal gain they receive. Before I left, I remember watching a documentary on North Korea on a Saturday night, then went to church the next morning. We had elders Quorum meetings in the Stake presidency room. It had pictures of the top 15. No painting of Jesus. It was then that I drew the parallel. I just simply walked away a while later with a strong desire to simplify my faith based on biblical teaching, and now attend a small non-denominational Christian church. I play bass guitar in the worship band and stand next to the drummer. I think from time to time that it's so very cool actually hearing drums in church--something that was anathema in my former faith. Thanks for the interview.

I watched Lila's interview on Mormon Stories. I first met her dad in 1972, when I was 17, when he was the MP out of Tallahassee. I lived in Montgomery. There was a big buzz about him back then because he was a convert, was made a GA, and then became a MP. He was very charismatic and a popular speaker. My oldest sister and her husband dealt with him a lot. They lived at Fort Rucker near the Florida state line, and he was a district president and then a regional representative in the early '70s. Rector also performed another one of my sister's wedding ceremony in the SL temple in 1974. I went to the SL Mission Home in June 1974. That was back when it was in an old high school near the temple and the COB. Various GAS would come in and give us rah-rah speeches. I was going to Australia, and we were seated alphabetically, so I sat on the front row during the whole week there, like 10 feet away from those holy men. Rector spoke, as well as LeGrand Richards, who was very elderly by then. I saw Rector again in probably the mid-'90s when he spoke at an adult fireside in my current city of Knoxville. I chatted with him afterwards and reminded him that he performed my sister's sealing. He remembered her well. He asked me "Is it holdin'?", meaning my sister's marriage. I chuckled and replied that she was then on her second marriage. Now, she's on her third and last. The last time I saw him, I had no idea that I would be studying my way out of the church just a few years later. Lila is such a good speaker and a nice lady, and I am very entertained by her experiences. I was saddened to hear that she grew up hardly ever seeing her dad. I've known several Mormons who complained that they had an "absentee father" because they were always off doing church work. I confess that I was guilty of that to some degree in the '80s when my four kids were little and I was at the chapel 2 or 3 nights a week at some meeting or doing clerical work etc. But we left the church when our oldest kid was 16, so I stopped all of that nonsense.

Lila, It is nice to see you again, my friend.

Being a child of 1961, I am STUNNED that she is about my age; I look like I was thrown by horse DAILY. I am 63, but healthy... One of my my cherished associates from high school 's dad was a seventy (and our congressman, too).

Keeping the secret of the church is like keeping the secret about Santa Claus.

What a family oriented church.

I was Lila's sister Lucy's relief society president in Lehi in the mid-'90s before I saw the "light". I would love to know how Lucy is doing now!

I appreciate the difficulty of living and growing up in the center of the Church leaders. It’s a tough thing to see the hypocrisy of the truth; truth being something other than what we’ve been taught over the years and through out our lives. Despite the problems and lack of understanding, the cognitive dissonance and fear of being excommunicated; my belief is based not on the various historical analyses but my experiences seeking my Eternal Savior. I do agree with so much of what you have said and seen in the church. I have discovered that the Narrative against Joseph Smith has been pushed by those that followed after him. If we read the actual speeches by Joseph Smith over his last two years, we find he was totally against Polygamy! I am deeply grateful for honest researchers like Whitney Horning, Rob Fatheringham, the group at Hemlock Knots, Michelle Stone (132 problems with Polygamy) and so many others. Knowing that Joseph Smith’s history was distorted and that his teachings corrupted has provided me insight into our Savior and his teachings. Although I find the Modern Church leaders deeply mistaken in their thinking; I do Trust my Eternal God and the true teachings found in the scriptures. I reject anything that has been shown to have been modified to support the early polygamists and the lying dogs (Isaiah 56) that came after Joseph Smith. The Lord lead me into the church, the church will one day cast me out. The Truth will come to light as we learn more and we will all once again come to know that we are truly sons and daughters of Magnificent Heavenly Parents.

I was a missionary when Lila and her parents came to Brazil.

I enjoyed this segment. I think Elder Rector was a unique GA at the least. I would've liked to have gotten to know him. It was interesting to find out some additional details about Lila's dad's interactions with Boyd K. Packer & his attitude toward Hartman Rector. There's probably a lot that goes on at that level we will never know.

So they get everything covered for free? their missionaries spending two years of their life having to pay $10,000 and depending where they live there may be places full of cockroaches. Come on Church you can do better than that if you want your missionaries to be safe you got the money. Give these kids a better life and treat them like a GA.

Anyone know what happened with Uchdorph??

I grew up with the Rector's in Virginia. I knew the whole family very well. I knew Twila when she was very young and doubt, she would remember me. I was between Laura and Linda's age. I must say I'm disappointed that Twila would steep so low as to air her family's laundry in public. No one is perfect. At heart Hartman and Connie were wonderful people and were good friends with my parents. I'm also disappointed in any podcast that would gloat about getting a GA's kid to talk about the family's background. Reminds me of the inhabitances of the "Great and Spacious" building whose sole purpose is to mock.

Would like to find some of Rector's speeches..

I’d like more info about how her life was different after she stopped praying.

It seems almost generational. Every 40-60 years church 'concepts' change.

🙋🏻‍♀️ I left in my 50s too!!!!

This show was fascinating. I feel like I’m hanging out with three friends. Ex-Mormons are my peeps.

All valid questions about the priesthood

69 minutes. I think I figured out it was a cult one second after I got baptized because they made me get dunked a 2nd time due to a toe popping up out of the water.

You all are so friendly I guess South Park was right about that lol

Now the church bought a Marriot resort in 'Maui, 120 rooms, for $100 million. Aspen Grove and Maui vacation resorts, the latter being exclusive for the elite.

She was lucky most of the time and certainly wasn’t picked on

Lila is an amazing woman! I can’t get over the fact that men would just get women pregnant without consent, how awful 😢

Lol...."I got pregnant again"

Oh how well she ages.

I left the lds church but I didn't give up on God or turn away from Christ.

No success as a GA can compensate for the failures of being role models for your children’s marriages…

I think it is great you are waking up. Please keep studying, as life is a journey. Learn to sing the Song, then go teach your friends and children to sing the Song. This Song is something you can go ask the Leaders about, and it cannot be swept under the rug, because these are the Creator's Words in the Bible. The Song is in the Bible, and no one will sing it! Why? I want to encourage everyone to stay in the LDS church as long as you can. This Song is given to you by the Creator, I did not write it. If you talk about the bad Joseph Smith stuff, the LDS Leaders and members do not want to hear it. You go back to the LDS church friends, and help them understand what this Song says. Then they will be interested in Singing It, and the Whole LDS Church will change. I want to change the whole church, even Russell Nelson. Please LDS People, I am Begging you PLEASE!!!!!Go back and help your Family members and friends. You are suppose to be expecting to learn a new Song according to Joseph Smith. I expect this would be easily accepted, because this is in your Bible, and Expected by Doctrine, and this is not bashing the LDS Faith, this is reinforce the Faith. This will help you stop your children from thinking you dropped off the deep end, as you will return with a truth they cannot deny. From my experiences with the LDS Leaders most have never even heard of the Name YHWH or Yahshua, and are not willing to look it up, so that approach did not work. The Feasts are complicated to explain, so I never go there with newbees. This Song on the other hand is in their Bible, and they can look it up very easy, and then they must question, "Why did no one ever show me this before?" I tell people The Creator is the one who hid the Song, and the Creator is now showing you the Song, for a reason! We can tear down the LDS/FLDS groups, but the question is, “Can we fix it, and bring all the families back together?”. m@gothere.us

I was also 57 when I discovered that the church was a fraud and left. However, I was a convert at 16. Instead of throwing all religion out, I went back to the Jesus that I had come to know as a child. I still read the Bible, but have thrown out the Book of Mormon and all Mormon materials, including pictures of Mormon Jesus. I have been out for eight years now and regard my forty years as a Mormon as a big waste of time. Many times I was mislead by the Mormon "Spirit" and thus made decisions that I would not have otherwise.

99.9% of Bible believing people do not know the only Song the Creator Commanded you to teach your children, and that is really SAD! That Song Makes me Stronger, Smarter, and Closer to the Creator! That Song Gives me Life and Salvation, and without it, I will surely die! Lets just say it is more important to me than my life! If you would just read the first five Books of the Bible, and you would be FREE! YES! FREE! 1. You would know if a man cut his hair he is not from the Creator. (99% of elders Lev. 19:27 “Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.”) 2. If the church is not teaching you to sing That Beautiful Song The Creator Wrote, then you are in the wrong place, and its time to move on! The Song is in the Bible and takes me 11 minutes to sing with not one repeating sentence. Can you find it? Do you know what the Song is about? 3. Would I honor your name if I put a J in front of it? That is intentionally dishonoring your name. Same goes with the Creator and Son “YahShua” “Yah is Salvation”, so simple. So why does the world worship one who comes in his own name “Iesus” opps… forgot to put the “J” in front of it, “Jesus” there, “that is better”! Which one do you think will Save you? The Greek god J+ Iesus, or the True Name of The Messiah? Yahshua! “My People die from Lack of Knowledge”. I can explain in great depth the "P", "D", "E", and "J" sources of the Bible, and the Dead Sea Scrolls. This is extremely important to understand the Bible, and what was changed, and who changed it, and for what reason. Where did the Language of “Hebrew” come from? Jews have killed to keep this a secret. I can explain this in great detail, and something you must understand to understand the "Holy Bible" (The Masoretic Text) I am not talking about what it says, but why it was changed when the jews wrote it. Why were there no Levites in Babylon? All these questions you should know the answer to. The reason you do not know these answers, is because the jews hide these things, their little secrets. Do you want to keep His Feasts, or Sing His Beautiful Song? I am looking for a friend to study with. m@gothere.us