For people wanting a much more in depth review of the gameplay and not just the horses: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j7LuaSWgf2Q.html
Hii Raleigh I want yo suggest you a horsie game it's star stable, although it's a bit annoying because you have to pay with real money for everything, but the game is free till level 6. Love you Raleigh 😊😊😊
i think they really slacking on ts4 content all packs add just bare minimum so i hope ts5 be better than this or also new game called Paralives said that have horses in base game with cats and dogs
The fact that they didn't give us a horse height slider and tried to gaslight people into believing that a Shire has the same height as an Arabian is what upsets me the most like... I want huge horses and I want ponies, what am I supposed to do with a 1,65cm Percheron? The whole reason I like that breed is because they are HUGE!
there is a mod for cat/dog height slider and i'm really hoping the mod creator adds an update for horses. the mod is by pixelpforte if you want to keep an eye out for it!
It's hard for them to animate them in different sizes tho. That's why teens/adult people are the same height, and only two sizes for dogs too. Different height requires different animations for everything. There are mods for changing the height of sims but if you do that, all the animations are slightly messed up. Like people kiss and one is kissing the other's neck, etc.
@@coldnuit I think they should've made two different heights for the horses as they did with the dog. One for horses and one for ponies. I know that, let's say, a thoroughbred and a shire would both be in the horse category and that it doesn't really add up with the real world, but at least we could then have some cute ponies such as shetland ponies, Icelandics or Welsh for the kids to ride, now that they've actually made it possible for them to ride since the Sims 3.
Yep, they’re 100% gonna rip off people by blocking more horse stuff behind a £14 pay wall after they just spent £40 on a empty expansion pack. And people still defend this company.
It kinda annoys me that the horses change outfits as soon as you dismount. Would have been fun to have the action to saddle up. Also miss the ability to lead your horse and all the small clutter items for stables
finally someone who knows horses like me taking a look at this. it really is super disappointing how little they added surrounding the main subject -- horses -- in this pack. when it was first announced & people were thinking theres no way you can make an xpac around just horses my mind ran wild because there is SO MUCH & yet... we got this. i had hopes 😥
The fact that in Cats and dogs we got 99 different cat breeds and 125 different dog breeds in one pack, each with a variety of coat colours which is typical for the breed to choose from, then in horse ranch we only get 35 horse breeds with one coat colour per breed pisses me off. As a non-artistic person, I was so disappointed to see the limited number of coat variations in the game as soon as I opened it. The amount of customisation available for cat and dog bodies is enormous whilst you can't even customise the body of your horse and all the horses have to be the same height. The fact that a Welsh Pony and a Shire are the same size and the difference in muscle tone and weight is so minimal... it really pisses me off! The fact that they have only 3 saddles (2 of which are very similar), 2 bridles and 2 blankets as horse tack and then have like 8 new chairs in the game... There are only 9 items designed for your horses to interact with, and one of them is a plant... meanwhile there are 11 new windows to choose from. As much as I loved the build and buy options, having a ton of new options did not justify making the horse aspect of the game so limited. The amount of items we got in cats and dogs plus the size of the world and the new vet career was enormous compared to how limited this pack was, and that's without even mentioning the Sims 3 pets. There were more items related to wine making than horses and barns... It was very obvious that horses were not the main part of this pack because the sims team knew they're not for everyone. It's really sad and it's absolutely not worth 40e. We're gonna have to rely on custom content for most of this aspect of the game.
I was so hyped for this pack, I wasn't even that mad it was it's own game pack so they could add lots of stuff but it's such a disappointment, we're 4 DLCs for things with pets in and we still don't have everything the sims 3 had
LENGTHY LENGTHY COMMENT AHEAD. BE FOREWARNED. in _The Sims 3: Pets,_ we got; horses, cats, dogs (playable), snakes/turtles/lizards/rodents for caged things, and birds (not playable, or even household members, but still interactive). Not to mention the deer and raccoons that sometimes reared their heads into your lot! and the (very very slight) possibility of finding a unicorn. in _The Sims 4: Cats and Dogs,_ we got cats and dogs.. shocker. Neither are playable, but they are household members. in _The Sims 4: My First Pet Stuff,_ we got rodents (hamsters, rats, hedgehogs, and miniature bubalus). Not playable and aren't household members, still interactive. You need _Cats and Dogs_ to use this pack. In _The Sims 4: Cottage Living,_ we got cows, chickens, llamas (ownable), wild birds, rabbits and foxes (not ownable). None are playable and aren't household members. AND FINALLY in _The Sims 4: Horse Ranch,_ we got horses (household members), mini goats, and mini sheep (not household members). None are playable. _The Sims 3: Pets_ is around $20 (USD). All packs attaining to animals in _The Sims 4_ comes to around $195. I'm Canadian, so for me it's around $27 and 264$ respectively.. To pay 264 dollars to play as NONE of the animals, and for most of them to be pocketable objects (you can put them in your inventory lmao) is disappointing. Do I even have to mention how lack luster the animals themselves are? they get pretty boring pretty quick. The routing with them is also horrible! and.. the non-household ones sometimes follow you to/appear at community lots like the bar or library. Also want to add that if your lot is a "Cat Hangout" lot or "Dog Hangout" lot, 9/10's of the time, they're sick animals and desperately need a vet to fix their blue fur or glowing paws. To pay 27 dollars to play as horses, cats, and dogs who have their own wants and properly implemented needs; have birds fly around your house and be a cute lil nuissance instead of a "plate in the way, can't walk!" kind of issue like the sheep and goats of TS4; and actually have control of it, rather than your dog constantly trying to make you walk them or your cat becoming violently ill randomly is a dream. The animals are pretty chill most times, don't demand every living second of your Sim's time, don't constantly f-ck up your Sim's walking pathway, and are decently well done (not GREAT, but I do think they're good and cute lol). You'd really think with having all these packs split (Pets vs. Cats and dogs in their own pack, horses in their own, etc), they'd be done way better than in a generalised "Pets" pack.. but no.
And I wish they had more horsemanship options for properly bonding and training the horse, and maybe even riding lesson arenas or riding lesson instructors, etc. And the jumping course! Nooo I was super upset that you can only do one jump! & I've always wished we could watch competitions too, I don't know why they don't make that a thing as entertainment. And more competition options like pretty much every kind of competition there is. Just because it's specific to horses 🫤
@@PredictableEnigma Heck, to have a dog training/owning game as detailed as Nintendogs, but updated to 2023 standards! I would be all over that! Considering what a huge hit Nintendogs was at the time, it's really surprising that no other game developers have tried to fill that niche yet. I don't even care what animal species, I just want a game that has nuanced animal husbandry and training stuff.
btw in sims 3 you actually can customise markings to every little detail, there's no brush tho so u have to play with placing rotating etc shapes that given, OR download cc stuff, so basically you can, but not with a brush tool
or you make them yourself. It's actually not that difficult and there are many tutorials for making cc stuff. Sims 3 + Pets DLC will forever be my most fav cause there's so much stuff out there and the horses and Sims look way better imo..
I played every horse game out there and they all only have certain things with something missing. Some don't have breeding or bonding. The thing I love the most about horse's in the Sims is you can just own them without having to go compete or do objectives unless you chose too. You can literally just have a pet horse which some people do. The biggest thing that annoys me is the lack of space on some lots for horse's there should of been a lot of large lots with the world. There isn't even the ability to own another lot like in Sims 3.
Yeah I think they took feedback the wrong way. If you have a horse you need space. Smaller lots for general towns are great, but not for building RANCHES with maybe multiple horses and other animals.
However, it looks like you can build a stable with a stable owner and ranch hand, and keep horses there that Sims from other households can use. So it would be similar to boarding your house elsewhere besides at your house, except for the game's purposes, the horse belongs to the Stable household instead of the family household. But the upside is not having to choose besides keeping your kids and pets and adding a horse.😅
@@EvieDelacourt I haven't played that much but something like that would be so good you could build on a big lot too. One thing I do is build a stables then put the living space above it so the rest of the land can be pasture.
@@QuinSteph I was planning on doing just that with my Royal hunting lodge. (I have a medieval save, so while others are griping about not getting English style saddles, I'm just hoping some CC creator will get around to making proper medieval style ones! 😂)
Even tho the pack might be shallow when it comes to gameplay, I really like how they made the horses. It's obivous that the budget went to horse animations. I really love their animation especially how they animated their ears. Also I was soo surprised when I found out that the mares' bellies are actually growing when they expect a foal. I think that was a super cute feature. Also I think what is a big miss that they didn't included farriers, or a farrier carreer and they didn't include a cross pack compatibility with Cats&Dogs Veterinarian. :/
@@vika5655 RDR2 is also running on better game engine without a scrapped multiplayer version. So it makes sense. That's why Sims 4 lacks in everyithing... But in my opinion you can't and shouldn't compare two different games with to different companies. The budget is not the same sadly.
I’m waiting for the “my first horse stuff pack” similar to what they did with pets probably to add what “we asked for” when in reality it could of been in the actual pack
We really need a real equestrian to create games like this with accuracy and all seats. I can’t play these games without some realness. Too frustrating
I want this pack so bad. It’s ‘only’ forty dollars, but I really can’t afford it. I don’t even think my parents will be able to afford it for Christmas. They seriously need to make these packs more affordable.
NEVER buy full price!! expansion packs eventually go 50% off during sales!! they have sales every 2 months or so. the new packs usually go 20-30% off and maybe a year later they will go 50% off too.
@@wildoranges I mean.. some do 🤣 but I see your point. However I’m just glad the sims added sleeping both standing up and laying down even if it means they’ll do it in random places or situations which a horse wouldn’t irl 🤗
My big fat boy Chance used to sleep laying down all the time. He’d sprawl out, or tuck his hooves against his chest and belly and lean his head forward and snooze. Eventually all the horses started sleeping laying down 😅
thing that really saddens me is that there is no hight difference in breeds, i was so looking forward to have ponies too. Oh wait that sounds like the perfect pack that they release for that money
I doubt they'll add height differences, they're too lazy for that. The only height differences in dogs is large and small dogs. A great dane is the same size as a dog like a german shepherd
I really wish there were horse related careers eg horse training, caretaking etc that are actually interactive instead of the usual rabbitholes. The competitions and community jobs are rabbitholes already which honestly makes me sad
Red Dead Redemption 2 has a lot of horse interactions being a western game. Grooming. Feeding. Petting. Giving health tonics all part of the game. Services at the stables, to me, is the hoof care. Very good game horse wise
Courses was something I loved in Sims 3, they could have added that and maybe cross country courses too, it's a disappointment for old school simmers that know what could have been done. 😬 I haven't played this pack yet but I hope you can ride other sims horses so you could make a riding facility with a lot of horses where you could practise before getting your own. Haven't seen anyone test that out yet so have to give it a try.
Raleigh pretty much stated the same things I was thinking when I first saw gameplay videos. I'm betting they will add another stuff pack that includes more horsey clutter, as well as English styles, which is annoying. I've never used mods in Sims but I might try some out when there are some for English! I love the new build items they have though for the barns and stables. I really wish they had more clutter we can use for tack rooms!
🎯 You hit like every beat that bugs me abt this pack 😁 There's a lot I like, but so many bits that got me like, "EA, fam, you shoulda spent a little more time consulting w equestrians on this one 😅"
I’m sure the CC community will start making CC for sims and horses. I was very happy that we got western clothes because most horse games don’t have western styles and I was worried it would be the same here
@@user-yb6bb1lc3k Don't get me wrong, EA should definitely provide packs filled with content. But no matter how filled the packs are, modders will always be able to do so much more. EA can't create thousands of items for one pack, modders can.
I get being dissapointed by it only being western and its lacking alot of care items but Sims is a money making game that gets constant cash flow from packs etc. So no doubt everything we want thats not here will be a $15 dollar stuff pack down the line.
Love watching you play! 😂 the Sims 3 horses was my favorite, but this sims 4 horses has been very disappointing :( no english riding clothes, can't connect jump courses, can't even set up 3 barrels together, only one kind of English saddle and only 2 saddle pads with a few swatches, only one set of leg wraps...I really thought this would be more fleshed out FOR horses. Highly lacking and buggy
I've heard Horse Breeding isn't really a thing beyond maybe traits. The Foal will look like only one of the parents, no cross-over of features or markings.
What is going to make this game amazing IS the custom content/mods and the amazing custom content/mods creators are creating! I have spent hours finding (Tumblr is your place for finding constently new all things Horse/Equestrian Sims4 CC/Mods) AMAZING content from realstic Jumping saddles, Lemuix brand English saddle pads, Dressage Saddles (including one that was a direct import from SSO's Dressage Saddle!) and mods to make the horses look much, MUCH more realistic. Also, there are amazing custom created items for building better barns, barn decor, riding arenas, more jumps and the list goes on and on. It is all amazing. I am hoping someone can create a mod for us to have ponies/pony breeds in realistic pony sizes (Connemaras, Welsh Sections A/B/C, ect and even Minatures and Shetlands!) and also I REALLY PRAY someone makes a breeding genetics mod to give us REALSTIC breeding genetics so that when we breed horses the foals can actually inherit the coat color genetics/conformations of their Dam and Sire!
Gurl I feel you. I was so hyped, and wished for this since day one.. but such a big lack of content.. sims 3 had so much more to do with the horses. The courses missing is the worst... It's just too boring, I cant even play it for hours, getting bored rly fast
I know exactly how you feel. I felt the same way about Cottage Living, I was so excited for the chickens, the cow, and the llama. I was bored after only THREE HOURS of gameplay.
I love you RALEIGH your horse is so cute and amazing 🤩 pls give me some tips for riding so I can tell my coach I do use a soft bit because that is what I use at my barn sadly have a great day or night 🌉
I think there's definitely room for growth, but the pack hasn't even been out for 24 hrs yet. I think they will be adding things, and we need to give them time to do that and listen to our feedback. Nothing is perfect right away, and I don't think we should expect it to be super realistic. Especially not right out the gate.
No, they don’t. EA usually doesn’t even fix all bugs their Sims Packs come with. Wedding Stories is still (almost) unplayable with dozens of bugs that are in the game since release (February 2022). Hell, Dine Out is broken since release (June 2016). The only pack that’s ever been overhauled (new added game play, new stuff, etc.) was Spa Day - after 6 years!!! It took them 6 years to actually listen to the players. And we didn’t even got another overhaul for packs that have been way worse since then (September 2021). This is not a Beta, Horse Ranch is a „finished“ release in the eyes of The Sims 4 and EA. Please don’t defend their crap, they have been doing this for years.
For $40 i DO expect a completed pack day one with no major updates, especially from a billionaire net worth company. Even so, no matter how much they update the game it wont lead to the expectation of what an expansion pack should have in it. Their update will be releasing a horse stuff pack costing you another $14.
I bet they will add a lot more but break it up in small packs so they can charge us a ton. Thanks for doing the review on this because I was wondering about it.
to me ... i was expecting this pack to be a disappointment and it is. I'm still going to play but not pay for it lol + mods will make everything better im sure. I just morn sims 3 :'D
The most disappointing thing is TS3 has more horse stuff and has better gameplay and that came out in 2011 for $20. The sims 4 is supposed to be the next generation of the game but it honestly just has prettier graphics everything else is worse than previous games. Really upset about the courses and lack of english tack and attire and the lack of kids stuff too.
Im not going to say something about the game or the sims community because im so tired of this. I watched the interview from one of the developers who took ther whole team to a barn to show them how horses act and so on. She basically said that horses are family members and not things you use for your fun and the training methods and punishing horses are outdated. That alone made me love her because she actually knwos what 90% of the questrian community dont get.
You may want to try this game .... Star Equestrian .... I just started playing and it seems to be really cool game. Unfortunately it's only on mobile but am hoping they bring out a PC version. I may give Sims 4 Horse Ranch a miss for now.
I have to disagree about being forced to wear horse riding gear to ride. I like that the Sim doesn't automatically get changed, as that isn't how it works in real life either. Normally you'd get changed BEFORE going to the barn, not after tacking up your horse. XD If you want to, you can make your Sim get changed beforehand as well, but it's good that it's optional, as it is in real life aswell. Sure, riding in a dress may not be the most comfortable option in real life, but it is physically possible... The less restrictions they put in the game, the better. Completely agree about the lack of proper obstacle courses though. What a shame.
You should play Rival Stars Horse Racing! (Yes a racing game but its really fun and addicting!) They have cross country as well and they just added a new breed to mobile; The Selle Francais. You can breed such cool and unique coat patterns and colours, compete in races and CC events and there's a story line. Its a really good game and the graphics are awesome. You can play it on PC and Mobile. On PC you can custom create your own horses and even bet on races. Mobile you can enter live races to win gold, tack and even other horses and you can pay monthly to join the star club that offers lots of exclusives and daily rewards. I play Mobile but heard PC is just as good and its a lot easier to breed better coat patters. They update the mobile game way more frequently than PC tho so just a warning.
Being a little late but actually, what i have studied, full grown horses need REM-sleep approximately 30mins per day and they can get to the REM stage only by sleeping laying down. Or that´s what we get taught here in Finland :)
I agree, they should add courses, maybe let the riders do ground work with their horses besides grooming. I enjoy playing it, but there’s room for improvement for sure.
I’ve only just started the video so sorry if I make any points that you’ve already made; I’m not an equestrian myself but looking over a few videos aside from gameplay I was Really surprised they didn’t include more CAS stuff for the horses. Like I was thinking about those full body blankets for cold weather, halters, the eye Mask things for flies, etc and why don’t your sims automatically put a helmet on when They mount a horse? I mean they do for bikes right?
I'll be honest i understand why alot of people are upset with the lack of english tack, but to be fair, the pack wasnt only directed at equestrians, it was directed at everyone and what does everyone think about when they hear 'ranch'? Cowboys, yeehaw, western and all that, + with all due respect most people find western tack much more appealing looking
Anybody notice there doesn't seem to be customization options where you change the stockings/socks for horses? You can't even save horse coats except on an individual horae in the library.
To be honest this pack just showed me once more that Sims 4 is just a step back from Sims 3. We already have way more packs than Sims 3 but not really much more stuff. Feels like Ea just got greedy and tries to make more money with less content. I bought the horse ranch pack cause I'm hoping for good mods/cc to make it more enjoyable but I still think Sims 3 pets pack was way better and offered much more gameplay features. Like comeon. We can't even lead horses, don't have a tie post etc., can't build own courses and horse traits like e.g agressive aren't trainable as far as I have seen. Also kinda miss that there are no wild horses in that world. In Sims 3 you always had like 3-5 wild horses per world and it was quite fun to play a sim who would catch and train wild horses to sell them afterwards. I like the new disciplines, trainable stats and that you increase your horses "good character/trust" by interacting with them so they buck less, ... but sadly they just forgot to add so much stuff that would have been the minimum.
Great video! Yes round pens would have been a super easy addition and I wish draft horses were huge and we had miniature horses. I'd have liked to have seen more details like farriers and vets. All in all they did a great job with the animations though. I wish they would have had family trees for horse breeding. The foals are great but I want to see champion bloodlines. Horses do sleep laying down though by the way just not for long periods of time.
What are some equestrian game reccomendations? I know I played a DS game called Pony Friends as a kid and it was fairly accurate care for the horse except the diet only let you feed thier favorite food and you could only trail ride not any other discipline but it was still neat. Wish it had more to it. I liked that you had to clean thier hooves or they'd get trush that you must treat and have to groom them or they get botfly which you also must treat.
18:52 don't horses sometimes sleep lying down? I have seen them do it from time to time. I mean sure they can sleep standing up but they can also sleep lying down?
i also thought there wasn’t any english clothes, but they have one option in the outfit tab. i just had to remove the tags at the top which were feminine and smth else!
You are the ONLY RU-vidr I have ever bought merch from in my 16+ years of watching RU-vid (I bought a sweatshirt with your 'We were here first' design). I am very much going to miss your laugh and your goofiness here on RU-vid but I am so glad you are listening to your needs and stepping away at the end of the year. I hope your life blossoms in much bigger ways out of the limelight and just know there are so, so many people all over the world who work silently and tirelessly to promote, educate, and pursue change in the horse world. It may take generations, but you are not alone in the work you did here. Not at all.
For me it def feels like if they're gonna bring in an old pack like horses they should have everything from sims3 and more new item in the pack revamp cuz this doesn't look like a $40 value when sims 3 has more things in it for horses. Also missing the stuff you mention as like key items you should have for your horse and they said they even talked with riders about what horses entail...
0:19 Not even a horse person but raised in farm country and first thing I noticed was no round pins sometime im going to see if we can build one but bet someone will beat me to it 1:10 At this point I have mounting dread for this lovely simmer…
As a simmer who doesn’t know a lot about horses I would love to see side by side comparison of real life and the game like bucking or how they hold the reigns
