Escaping the Warren Jeffs FLDS Polygamy Cult

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At 17 she realized she was in a religious prison. She had just been "arranged" to be married to a stranger and had been plotting her escape for 2 years. Determined not to become a plural wife for the sole purpose of having as many children as possible, she did whatever it took to leave and pursue higher education at a large cost. See how she transformed her life and navigated the hard lessons of the "real world".
watch pt 1 here: • Her Childhood as a Pri...
Chapter Markers
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:05 Previously.... added context from the last episode
00:03:11 To marry or not to marry?
00:11:14 The young age when girls get their wedding dresses ready
00:13:30 Possibility to be arranged with a 20-50 year age gap!
00:15:42 The youngest brides in the FLDS
00:17:09 Facing her dad after rejecting the proposal
00:21:41 Expressions of love were not allowed
00:23:05 The beginning of the escape
00:24:23 Is she allowed to see her family again after leaving the FLDS?
00:26:21 How her aunt helped her acclimate to the modern world
00:27:56 What she didn't know she didn't know
00:29:01 Her first date!
00:31:39 How growing up FLDS affected her romantic life
00:34:39 Hardest thing she faced after leaving
00:35:25 Not understanding how to manage finances
00:36:48 Learning socialization and finding community
00:40:08 Her education in the compound
00:41:52 Her journey into higher education
00:45:19 Has she kept any family ties?
00:52:30 Did rules change after Warren was jailed?
00:54:53 Was there a mass exodus when Warren was arrested?
00:57:37 How Jude helped with "Under the Banner of Heaven"
01:00:42 Linda, Listen
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@RosieGamgee Год назад

When she said no to that arranged marriage--that was so brave

@zippymacadoo6336 Год назад

How incredible her father backed her up. Ultimately, he's a good man.

@fighterck6241 Год назад

She said her father was educated and had friends outside the cult.

@theweyrd Год назад

@@fighterck6241Even more interesting to me how he felt the cult was right for him.

@theweyrd Год назад

@@fighterck6241Even more interesting to me how he felt the cult was right for him.

@autodidacticartisan Год назад

No spoiler alert?

@FernBlackwood1995 Год назад

@@autodidacticartisan This is real life, not the newest Marvel movie. Real life doesn’t have spoilers.

@_k_d_d_264 Год назад

The fact that her father had friends outside the religion and was in contact with his sister that left, to even be able to get Jude a place to stay with her... im crying for her, so glad shes out and getting to be herself

@chaucernerd1690 Год назад

Even as a mainstream mormon woman, saying no was almost unheard of and the most difficult thing for me to learn when I left. How much more courage it took for her!

@kerstinklenovsky239 Год назад

I cannot imagine a better podcast host than you, Shelise! You have such a lovely way of making your guests relax and feel comfortable telling their personal and often horrific stories. You are wonderful and I am convinced you are instrumental in saving lives.

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Aww thank you so much, Kerstin! That’s so kind of you to say. I really do hope these videos can help make a difference. ❤️❤️❤️

@themenna007 Год назад

Yay to the Dad! Must have been so difficult so go against his way of life

@jessgunn6639 Год назад

I KNOW, THE FACT THAT EVEN THOUGH SHE LEFT SHE STILL WAS ABLE TO REACH OUT TO HIM WHEN SHE NEEDED HELP AND HE GAVE IT WITHOUT QUESTION! THATS A REAL KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOUR, MAY HIS LOYALTY TO HIS CHILDREN BE REPAID TO HIM A HUNDRED FOLD!

@suchasweety138 Год назад

The fact he knew his way of life wasn't for his daughter and he seemed to have her escape planned out.

@morgaincrochettiger Год назад

@@suchasweety138 My thoughts exactly! But if he said he knew that she wasn't meant for that life, he must have been planning for years for at least one child to leave. I wonder if he was probably teaching them extra SO someone would have the curiosity to want more from life.

@ms.fancypants8548 Год назад

This was so interesting! I love that her dad went and picked her up that is such a normal thing for most people but so incredibly brave for a man in his situation.

@JoanieDoeShadow Год назад

The being married to old men when you're 12-19 is traumatizing enough but to go your whole life without physical or verbal affection from your family before being married, that is another level of physiological and emotional manipulation.

@jedilittlebee 7 месяцев назад

And then to be expected to go from that to a stranger’s arms in a sexual relationship with no say, no rights for the rest of your life, shelling out baby after baby as long as possible-that is child abuse and sexual slavery. My God!

@lightbeingform Год назад

Her bravery in the moment of saying "no" - incredible, inspiring. She was just a kid! My goodness.

@PrincessJamiG Год назад

Saying "no" for the first time can be so very powerful.

@fairyspunfibers9098 Год назад

And SO SCARY!

@byereality7492 Год назад

I left mainstream Mormonism and my dad reacted a lot of Jude's dad. It makes me feel so loved, and I hope it does the same for her ❤

@katego370 11 месяцев назад

Let's give a big round of applause to her father! 👏👏👏 To be programmed the way FLDS people are and still choose to support his daughter's wish is an incredible show of bravery and tenacity. Off course this takes nothing away from Judith's courage and resilience. In that regard, she's her father's daughter.

@janesmith9024 Год назад

The support of the parents was unusual and indeed that they then left and most of the 17 children too. What an interesting interview - many thanks to both.

@cingilbort Год назад

I understand the sentiments for the dad, but ultimately her story is a proof of her own resilience and perseverance. Had her dad not backed her up, I still believe she would reclaim her own life and destiny. What a remarkable woman! I would love to hear more about her faith journey as well but maybe she didn't want to talk about it on purpose, and I respect that.

@nickywal Год назад

But the risk of losing everyone you love is often a major factor in people staying in these groups. Like people praise the Amish for that when they're teenagers, they're told to go explore whatever they want to. Then when they come back they're then baptised and expected to fit into the group. But again they have very little education, no real understanding of how to handle a lot of basic life skills and they give up everything if they choose to leave. It's the illusion of choice, not really free choice

@not_you_i_dont_even_know_you Год назад

Burst into tears hearing about her father's choice to help her rather than betray her. 😭❤️ Edit: i grew up as a fundie evangelical, with parents who were "progressive" in that they recycled, and didn't express vitriolic hate for lgbtq people and i was allowd to wear shorts. I didnt realize how wildly controlled my life was until i was 19 and in the outside world for the first time. I'm 34 and still unpicking the knotted mess of a worldview I left... I'm queer, sister is trans, both very far left in our politics and thankfully my parents still love us, despite thinking we will go to hell. Could be worse.

@donnariahi2975 Год назад

I am thrilled that your parents did not disconnect from you because of your sexuality, my ex husband would have. I have great respect for you & your family. ❤

@not_you_i_dont_even_know_you Год назад

@@donnariahi2975 Thank you - I try to be grateful as much as possible, but it can definitely still be hard to handle when they won't use my sister's pronouns or ask me who I'm dating cuz they don't want to know. *Sigh* Family is hard but they are trying and so will I.

@FernBlackwood1995 Год назад

I felt the same fear with my parents (Fundie Baptist). When I came out as non-binary they were confused but we’re open to learning, and genuinely have learned a lot. When I came out as pansexual they kinda saw it coming. When I became a cam SW, they even supported my choices and celebrated my confidence then because I’ve struggled with an eating disorder most of my life and this was a big jump. I had to reassure them that I was safe and then they relaxed. I’m 27 now, and I actually have an amazing friendship with them now, I’d even say best friends! Sometimes our religious parents can REALLY surprise us in the best way.

@newgabe09 Год назад

@@FernBlackwood1995 excuse me for asking, but what is cam SW? I could google but I'd rather hear from you personally in your words.

@justkiddin84 Год назад

@@newgabe09good luck googling it. Couldn’t find it.

@conripolar Год назад

Shelise, you are the best interviewer I've ever watched! Thanks for all the great content. As a clinical psychologist, I've had to deal with patients in the process of leaving high-demand religion and impacted by them, and your content is a beautiful window into the experiences lots of those people have in those groups. Again, thank you for your work!

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Oh my gosh what a huge compliment! Thank you so much! That means a lot coming from a professional 😁🙏 I just always hope these videos can be helpful

@mariekatherine5238 Год назад

This “marriage” of little girls to creepy old men is disgusting. That elder sounds like a little kid having a temper tantrum after his parents told him, no, you can’t have any more candy. Good for you in being the adult by saying, “No!” Good for your father in setting his own boundary despite his own upbringing. Looks like you inherited his good brain and loving heart.

@breeanneosuileabhain2036 Год назад

I have to say I got goosebumps when she spoke about her dad's reaction. I almost brought me to tears. I listen to a podcast by Amanda Rae. She escaped from the Kingston Group also known as The Order. She then was on a show where she helped a lot of women escape from various groups, including some from Colorado City. It's so incredible that her parents supported her. I can't imagine the strength it must have taken to say "No, that's not my path" and then have to go and tell her father. Such a beautiful outcome!

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Yes! We have reached out to Amanda. Waiting for her to respond and suggesting people comment on her page about wanting a collab 😁 Thanks for being here!

@breeanneosuileabhain2036 Год назад

@@CultstoConsciousness You are so welcome! I'll throw a shoutout in the comments of one of her videos. It would be an awesome collab to see!

@kyrroti9921 Год назад

While her circumstances were horrible. You can tell that she has respect for her parents. It’s a shame their relationships weren’t what they could have been.

@shelagh7850 11 месяцев назад

There is a woman by the name of Krystin Decker who has a foundation to help people leaving polygamy. Perhaps you can have her on your channel to discuss what she does. She is a survivor of polygamy herself and wrote a book about her experiences.

@jedilittlebee 7 месяцев назад

I was thinking such a foundation should exist. Like Scientology’s Aftermath Foundation. They get donations and ex members are there to help new escapees. They would know and understand the best what they need, though non Mormons could certainly help under their supervision. Knowing such a place exists might give others more hope to escape.

@nickywal 6 месяцев назад

@@jedilittlebeeHolding out help, they help a lot of people leaving polygamous groups get back on their feet, get therapy etc

@jojowynne233 Год назад

Some great last words there by Jude in her Linda listen comment. The “disease to please” is so true! We don’t call things out because we don’t want to upset people so it’s easier to go along. I have been guilty of that but have learnt to call a spade a spade. I also listen to my gut because I also know now scientifically it’s a message from my brain weighing up past experiences warning me. I loved Jude’s comment “you can’t throw velvet over a chair and call it a throne”, that cracked me up 😂 I’m really glad you dared say NO to the marriage and your Dad backed you up. Imagine if you’d been married off to a crypt keeper like Roland Jeffs 😱. After all you’ve been through, the best part part is you have your own family, career and a relationship with most of your family. Maybe you were the catalyst for them seeing the light for a better life? Thank you Jude for being so open and sharing your story. ❤️Thank you Shelise for always being compassionate and asking the right questions. ❤️

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Yes absolutely! The lawn chair thing had me cracking up too.

@savagetwin52 Год назад

Who wasn't in tears in 20 minutes in. That scene with her father was so touching. His conflict was worked out for him. But his daughter needed to do the same although it was not congruent. He raised an amazing young woman.

@AGramzyLife-ie6ti Год назад

My heart goes out to her. I grew up in this faith the same one. its a lifetime sentence because you never forget. even though we are a victor, not a victim. it is still always there. so I am so proud of her for talking about this.

@StueyBoo Год назад

You are both a massive inspiration! Seeing and hearing the journey you have both been through is incredible. So glad you're both free and living for you.

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Thank you so much!!❤️

@goatmealcookies7421 Год назад

I cannot imagine the strength that first, let alone the second, "no" to the marriage took. Nor can i imagine myself at younger than 18 walking away from all that is familiar. Wow. Total respect!

@mieuxdisante 10 месяцев назад

I am SO PROUD of you for saying NO to this man! Standing up for oneself is most important, but can be so tough at times. What an incredibly brave thing to do. Thank you for sharing your story.

@andreabontempo643 Год назад

Shelise you are an amazing interviewer. You ask such great qyuestions and listen as well. This was a wonderful interview. This lady is so couragious and I love that you are getting these stories out so other people who may be stuck but want to leave the church will have the courage to leave. Great job ! Loved this lady!

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Thank you so much, Andrea! 🥰 I appreciate your support. Yes! That is my goal! 😁

@chelseyakagamermom1804 Год назад

Wow Jude I'm so proud of you for being able to get out and become the Amazing teacher that you are now, and glad to here that you still have contact with your dad and Sister and sorry for your family members you've lost. It's a very brave and strong leap you chose to take to be able to finally become the person you've fought so hard to be. Congratulations to you on that 100% 🎉❤🥰

@sallyjohnson1566 Год назад

Jude is such an articulate and intelligent speaker and story teller! Great show!

@GrumpyVickyH Год назад

I Listened to the podcast but had to see the dress. Loved the spirit of Judith as a child/young woman and her strength today. Fantastic. I would love a short clip published to just cover “ I said No! “ What an inspiration to share and show everyone the power of listening to your inner voice.👍🏼💚👍🏼

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Great suggestion! Thank you, Vicky!

@MrArdytube Год назад

It is literally unbelievable how completely a cult can take over lives. It is particularly unbelievable when we are presented with such otherwise normal people. ❤

@hope46sf Год назад

Wow! You are an amazing woman! I'm so glad you escaped being in an arranged marriage! ❤🎉🙏. I was in a 44 year marriage where my now deceased husband was a pastor for 25 years. He took a mainline Christian church to being a cult. He developed all kinds of rules and regulations and control tactics to keep us in line. Thank God, I finally got out when he went into a psychiatric hospital, and lost his power to control the 55 remaining church members..Now, I bask in the grace Christ provided for us through his life, death and resurrection! God bless!!! PS It seems that your actions, along w your dad, provided a catalyst for many other family members. Yay!!

@sydney.mp4 Год назад

it's so good to hear stories with supportive family members. i hope everyone can find that however they define family

@FatBabyToodles Год назад

This is super interesting...in the almost very beginning..her describing the life "wanting to leave" and "having to come back due to lack of resources" ... reminds me of an addict type life (Was one for many many years and been clean for almost 5yrs, but the way she described that but was interesting!!) ❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉

@davidchess1985 Год назад

So impressive that she found that NO inside herself, despite all the programming. What a story!

@acatnamedm4529 Год назад

Good on dad for recognizing & standing up for his Jude's wishes. What an amazing journey. Thank you for sharing.

@shirlzitting647 10 месяцев назад

She is so well spoken. Love it. I love her quips: Velvet on a lawn chair and call it a throne, disease to please, etc. Here's an FLDS quip from a moment of truth decades before the Jeffs, that "Every tub must stand on its own bottom", which is exactly what she's saying to "Linda". Jude and others like her are such an inspiration. God is in it.

@caseyjude5472 Год назад

Wow, what a great part 2! Glad I finally had the time to watch this. Thank you! ❤

@worrydarling Год назад

Jude's inner strength is incredibly moving. Honored to hear her speak and share her story and perspective

@juliee593 Год назад

Thanks for your work Shelise, your podcast is quite recent but wow it's already booming! Every guest brings such a great experience we can all learn from, and you know which questions to ask. I've been fascinated with the inner workings of cults for a long time, so your podcast is the best way to learn!

@puderperle1519 Год назад

Thank you so much for giving people a voice who survived unbeliebable torture. It was so interessting to hear what she was going through and developed so well. You are so good in talking and asking questions. Wow.

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

That means a lot! Thank you so much. 🥰❤️

@justkiddin84 Год назад

I think that this brave young woman showed her father his way out from a place he wasn’t happy in all along. And so on to her siblings. So incredibly brave for anyone to escape any cult.♥️✌️

@dejapoo9367 Год назад

Fascinating, t😊hank you all. Thank you all for having amazing courage & fortitude, also for sharing & working to help others.

@newgabe09 Год назад

The Sequel! Been hanging for this after the last cliffhanger!

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Haha yesss

@littlewingmyoho Год назад

You kind and compassionate approach to this serious subject is priceless. Its such important work and I'm grateful for what you are doing obviously from your heart

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Thank you so much for sharing that. I really appreciate your support and uplifting words 🥰🙏

@gaylem4333 9 месяцев назад

I like the way you interview people. You ask the questions I have myself. Such an inspiring lady!

@bluewolfwalking 4 месяца назад

What a fascinating story! Thanks for sharing it, Jude.

@Mama_T_448 Год назад

Thank you for sharing this. I've been waiting for the second part with high anticipation. Such a heartbreaking and heartfelt story. Sending love to all involved ❤️❤️❤️

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Thank you Teresa!

@nickywal Год назад

She was lucky to have such a great family who backed her no matter, a lot of people leaving these groups give up everything.

@fairyspunfibers9098 Год назад

GREAT interview, Shelise! You really have a talent for it! 😊❤😭

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Aww thank you! And thanks for all your comments and support!

@michellekirwan-woods7623 Год назад

A common thread with individuals who left/escaped is that they are so introspective! ❤

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Great observation!

@valzahnzahn Год назад

This is your best interview I’ve seen yet!

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Thank you! More amazingly inspirational stories to come!

@julias2855 10 месяцев назад

How awesome & show of strength! My mother came to this country as a teen with no knowledge of the language & culture. I’m sure that’s what it was like. I admire ur spirit.

@Grace.allovertheplace Год назад

Hi 👋 YES 🙌 finally ❤️ (now I’ll continue to watch) With kindness and respect, Grace

@juliehutchison1269 11 месяцев назад

So much strength. Brilliant interview. Wishing Jude all the best.

@user-cy4vw1qj9m 10 месяцев назад

I'm only after finding your podcast tough I did watch the first part of this. I find it very interesting and feel very bad for the people living this type of life so glad she got out.

@lisacolledge7624 Год назад

Hi Shelise 👋. I can't wait to start this, all things cultish have been a 'thing' for me forever. Between you, Andrew Gold and Aaron Smith-Levin, I've had an incredible learning journey. The way you speak, question, answer from personal experiences....I think you're a total piece of You Tube gold. Wishing you every success possible. ❤❤

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Oh my goodness thank you so much! How sweet of you ❤️ welcome to C2C!

@NJ-Cathie Год назад

Excellent interview - Under the Banner of a Heaven is a must read.

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Thanks Catherine! Yes, it’s so so good

@carabeingblue4016 8 месяцев назад

How wonderful Jude and so many of her family have received the gift of autonomy and the hope of freedom. Reprogramming oneself is difficult for any human being. We love structure, and building our own can be such a challenge. All the blessings and strength and hope for all of you for a hopeful, joyful life of your own choosing! Thanks again Shelise - absolutely love what you do.

@chelseyakagamermom1804 Год назад

💚💜💚💜 ooo yay been waiting for pt.2

@tonirodriguez7470 7 месяцев назад

Jude, good bless you and your family. Your strength and courage gives alot of us inspiration.

@SatansRoerhat Год назад

I have been looking forward to this ❤❤

@BethP-pl9nc Год назад

Jude is a courageous woman. She truly created the spark for a majority of her family to “rebirth “ themselves. I’m very happy for them.

@AGramzyLife-ie6ti Год назад

Going to comment as i listen. I have not seen my brother for over 14 years because he is still in it. its just sad that. the faith has split so many families up. at this point it isnt even a faith. I miss my brother very much.

@joannegrieco8523 Год назад

A wedding dress waiting for you for years as a child who just turned 18 is a ridiculous amount of pressure, a control tactic, and a constant reminder that your place is in the home and to obey all men even strangers....just awful. I'm sorry you went through this

@kttunsntell6626 Год назад

What an absolutely amazing and inspiring woman. Hats off to you Judith, and thank you for sharing your story ❤

@realhealthrealwealth Год назад

Love this RU-vid channel ❤️

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Love YOU LeRae! I see you out there supporting 😁🙌

@RandomScreenAlias Год назад

Bravo Dad! That he went with his heart and supported your choice as best he could is extraordinary.

@djdingwall1 Год назад

This episode ended up being better than I thought it was going to be. Kudos to Jude's Dad!

@PAB1068 Год назад

Another incredible interview. I'm so glad she rebelled and got out and anyone else that has done the same.

@misterdiffiCULT1 Год назад

Loved the Linda listen. If it doesn't feel right, challenge it. Phenomenal interview.

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it! 😁

@roseannegagliardi7546 11 месяцев назад

Such an articulate,brave and inspirational Woman…I could have listened to her story all day ❤️🙏

@sharonmartin1223 Год назад

There is just so much more to her story what an interesting lady...loved it

@dianeporrier9218 10 месяцев назад

Loved both of these episodes

@kateray 7 месяцев назад

So amazing for Jude's Dad to not only accept & her leaving, but also having his own journey of leaving the faith but remaining in the community! I think we hear so often how it's generally easier for men, especially men of past generations, to just stay; these churches and leaderships are so often built by men & for men. I think it's incredible, and must take a massive amount of humility for him to realize that he was wronged, and how he as a patriarch and father wronged his children. To be able and willing to confront that and continue the work of building these relationships with his children from the ground up is incredibly inspiring to me, and I think is an amazing example for other men that it's never too late ♡

@user-ji8qg9df5m 4 месяца назад

"If it doesn't feel right, challenge it!". Love it!

@kendrakausau Год назад

I’m not sure why you don’t have millions of followers. I love your videos ❤

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Kendra, you just made my (tough) day. Thank you for your support 🥲

@kendrakausau Год назад

@@CultstoConsciousness I give kudos when deserved, glad I could make your day better. I’ve always been obsessed with FLDS particularly, because my ex is from Utah and I frequently visited it.

@ashleydailey7844 2 месяца назад

I am so proud of you for standing up for yourself and telling warren Jeff’s no. I’m almost positive that’s the only time in his adult life that he was told that

@barbtaylor7329 Год назад

What a brilliant channel..Thank you

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

🥰🙏

@DimaRakesah Год назад

Thank you for sharing your story! It's so important that people be aware of the harm these cults pose to people. This is not religious freedom when the religion controls people like this!

@themenna007 Год назад

Thank you so much for sharing ❤i love that expression - throwing vetiver over a lawn chair!

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Right?! So good!

@Cowboysfan40 Год назад

This was a wonderful interview! I absolutely loved it. It was so wonderful that her father was so understanding. What a blessing. Thank you so much for all you do.

@blindCANfilmFEST 11 месяцев назад

Powerful way of speaking, amazing story!

@fairyspunfibers9098 Год назад

To lose one's Tribe can be truly terrible...I'm so sorry to hear of your mom's passing. Very happy for you that your parents did leave the cult and take most of your siblings out with them. Can't believe he's still living in the community, though! How do they treat him and your remaining sib? Oh, that is awesome that the Trust has been amended! Yay! "Throw velvet on a lawn chair and call it a throne." LOL! Too many people do that! Somebody needs to kick the folding legs out from under them! Yessss...the "disease to please" is often quite deadly, if not to the body, certainly to the psyche and soul.

@MissTippiLu Год назад

I really enjoy your program. These interviews are so important. Btw I’m sure people tell you all the time you are a dead ringer for Natalie Portman. Keep up the great work.

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

Aww thanks! Yes I’ve heard that before and it’s my favorite doppelgänger compliment 🥰

@LadybugPrinzess 8 месяцев назад

Wow, "I want to be the author of my own life", that you found such strength in yourself is amazing. ❤

@maryscott9430 Год назад

I watch escaping polygamy and i know its a reality show, but i still get the feeling it woukd be as crazy and scary as the show portrays.

@nickywal Год назад

Amanda from the show has a youtube channel, Amanda Rae, with interviews with a lot of the people, background info about the show etc. It probably is dramatised especially later on because American reality shows but its more realistic than you would think. Especially Melanie's escape which was so dramatic

@maryscott9430 Год назад

@@nickywal ill have to check that out. Thank you

@nae0067 Год назад

Don’t let anyone reduce your convictions to excuses, there is a big difference there.

@lucilledaub5991 9 месяцев назад

I’m glad you’re out n you found yourself. I’m proud of you.ILove your story.

@joannegrieco8523 Год назад

Shalisse if you do live's people will send you superchats usually with questions for you to answer in the best of your ability, and they'd definitely want to ask guests questions too. Also, it'll grow your subscribe count. Aaron Smith-Levin at growing up in Scientology would likely help you, BTW he's been reporting as a journalist at the Danny Masterson trial Tuesday/Tomorrow is the closing arguments but I'm sure he'd be happy to help and to talk about the case in my opinion

@qienna6677 Год назад

I'm surprised, given what I've heard and read in books, that they let you leave that meeting, having said no to the man they'd chosen for you.

@CultstoConsciousness Год назад

I was surprised too! Maybe if her father were on board it would’ve gone differently

@GagaCiwi Год назад

Judi Bateman is such a strong woman, loved hearing her tell her story. What a Beautiful person inside & out. Please write a book

@pf7028 11 месяцев назад

Well done. ❤This woman is strong. I know how it feels going against. Needs so much bravery.

@Jillousa 5 месяцев назад

Wow. I've heard a lot of FLDS escape stories but never heard one like this. Her dad had a lot of guts and she was very fortunate

@melissabrennan5791 Месяц назад

What an amazing story

@techwithbec Год назад

She is so incredibly bright. Very happy that she got out ❤️

@mariekatherine5238 Год назад

There were always children running around and a baby crying for many years when I was growing up. There were nine of us children and we were always moving, Papa being in the Navy. My two oldest brothers were also in the military, Jimmy in the Army and Walter in the Navy. One of my younger sisters also joined the Navy. I’m 73 now, staying single, but I can’t complain my life has been boring. I’m still a practicing Catholic, and religion is an important part of my life. It’s an anchor on a very, very long chain, not a prison.

@somethinggood9267 Год назад

There is so so much freedom in Christ Jesus. And he frees us from our sins so that we no longer have to be bound to them. We can change and become better people. It's a beautiful thing and the way that these cult leader is bastardize it will condemn them in a very big way. It is not in any way okay to treat people the way that these Cults do, it is so perverse and destructive

@fridaytax Год назад

@somethinggood9267 totally agree with this. The stated philosophy and intent of religion can be so beautiful but the way it has been perverted and poisoned by cult leaders is just horrible.

@sarahissersohn5495 10 месяцев назад

I absolutely love your channel, and Ive already sent a few eps to one of my besties who is very affected by having grown up Mormon (his dad was kind of high up in the church, as well) I do have one general YT question: what’s up with content creators starting episodes with a random snippet of the episode and then doing the intro? It messes with me bc I feel like I’ve already seen the ep, when that excerpted part comes up in the episode

@1ACL 9 месяцев назад

Judith is so brilliant. Really super- intelligent.

@mariekatherine5238 Год назад

A hope chest isn’t necessarily a bad idea. It depends upon what you put in it! I didn’t have one as it’s not a part of my tradition, but if I had had one, I’d have put a wide variety of things in it over my growing up years. Some traditional things towards home, marriage, and children, yes, but many other items like university supplies, camping and travel stuff, a forest ranger hat, teaching materials, art supplies, medical tools, auto supplies, even supplies to become a sister, (nun), like a Rosary, prayer book, etc.