#Eschatologymatters 

I remember the near EXACT same experience with a nonbeliever in reciting verses from the Bible that Pastor Jeff had. I found myself calling out my experience out loud as I listened to this, and you know what happened, Pastor Jeff repeated his own experience...exact same proceedings. Christians, God really will equip you for His work when you honor His word with study and fellowship.

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but eschatology matters.

I actually just started reading "Biblical Eschatology" by Jonathan Menn. It's a great book so far. The first few chapters talk about how one's hermeneutics determine one's view of the entire Bible from creation to redemption. It made me realize that eschatology, while something that shouldn't fracture the body of Christ, is important to study and understand.

Excellent message! Thank you.

"Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near." Revelation 1:3

Just great, so clear.

Thank you for this!

Excellent the second and third time through!!

This was amazing ! So you saying Joel 2 ain’t about Marcus Rodgers last vision about the Rona virus???? 👀

This was amazing I’m starting to see the postmill position

Yes I listen to apologia studios

One of the reasons I'd not want to join a Baptist Church is because of the amount of dispensationalist teachings out there. I'm Anglican, grew up Presbyterian. I can handle credo-baptism (and conform were I to join a Baptist church), but not new age dispensationalism. If more Baptist Churches were to get back to their roots, it might be more easier to consider them as I move about the country (in my line of work every 2-3 years I have to move). Bring back some liturgy (all Baptist Hymnals have scripture responsive readings in them), and reformed beliefs (1689 LBCF) to include a reformed theology in the sacraments.

When are we going to get a sermon on the second coming at the end of the world and the end of Revelation? I've heard so much on the Olivet Discourse but nothing about the second coming!

Is there text for this whole thing? I would love to give it to people who would not watch the video which is a lot of people

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Isn't assuming that "this generation" is referring to a covenant bringing something foreign to the text and reading it into the text?

respectfully, how can you not say when he comes the second time in judgement, but simultaneously say that is not his second coming? How do you get around Hebrews 9:28?

There will be a thousand year reign of Christ on Earth. It will start upon his return to the Earth. There will be a rapture before the 7 year tribulation. Love ya Jeff.

Does Jeff believe that the revelatory spiritual gifts of prophecy, tongues, healing were for the apostles before 70AD for the preaching of the Gospel to the Jews? This is an interesting twist on the traditional cessationist view that sees the gifts for the establishment of the early Church. It actually makes a lot of sense.

It seems it's going to be a lot harder to prove ourselves (modern day Believers) worthy to be chosen from this Calling compared to the early era Christians who faced *real* persecution, poverty and death for the Faith.

I respect Pastor Jeff tremendously. I'm only leaving this comment for anyone who should know: this message is teaching Replacement Theology.

So is john the baptist actually Elijah?

Happy Palm Sunday? Shouldn't that be "Palm Lord's Day?"

I agree with this eschatology does matter , thanks to you I'm now very confused on a few things and can't find a church that agrees with your teaching . One thing I will take the space to point out . Matthew 24:37 I'm not convinced you're looking at this quite right : you teach that this refers to Gods chosen being left and the evil swept away , yes and no . In the days of Noah Gods chosen were taken up into the ark . This can very easily be looked at both ways , now I don't know who is right and who is wrong , both sides can't be . While it is easy to read that most of this is about what took place in 70AD , it almost reads just like Revelation . Two different things seem to be talked about . You also teach that only the last couple chapters of Revelation are about the final days . Then who are the 2 witnesses in chapter 11 ?

Jesus didn't make a covenant to minister for 7 years to Israel. Seems it's assumption to say that He did, just because He ministered for 3.5 years and then the apostles only to Jews for 3.5 years. Please explain how He made a covenant. Plus, they did continue to minister to Jews even after the Gentiles were reached.

Whats the prophecy for jesus christ and his second coming then? If your claiming all this already happened then jesus left us blind as to when he's actually coming back to resurrect us and make earth new again and reighn in his millennial kingdom. I would love to conversate about this with jeff.

All dispensationalist say the seven years in Daniel 9 is talking about the Anti-Christ desecrating the temple at the middle of the end time tribulation period. Two completely different interpretations of Daniel 9. Someone is wrong and someone is right. Both interpretations cannot be right. The only thing agreed on is Messiah will be killed. Overall two totally radical different ways to Interpret Daniel 9 Actually Jeff Durbin makes a pretty air tight scriptural argument for his position.

LDS religion is taken down by JEFF nice job

Isn't saying that Jesus came in 70 AD a "spiritualizing of His coming", as the JW's did regarding 1914?

1:08:24 Respect you tremendously Jeff, but if Jesus wasn’t taking about His second coming, then why does He continue speaking in Matthew 25, talking about the Judgement Day?

I've heard this 70AD explanation time after time being preached like it answers everything and it never really makes sense to me considering a few things. 1. If Jesus did indeed return in a sense in 70 AD how come neither the Gospel of John or the book of Revelation make no note of this quite important past event? You know, another return of Jesus, I would think it would be mentioned. 2. Just read Matthew 24. I'm going to parse it down for you here. Quoting the verses 16-21 what Jeff quoted in his sermon and then showing that it actually continues after that talking about the same event. Matthew 24 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: ... 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. .... 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. ------ You can see this is a continuation and not a separate event because of verse 29 "after the tribulation of those days". a) When in 70 AD did the sun darken and stars fall from heaven? Or is this just figurative? b) Did Jesus gather his elect in 70 AD? c) Did all the tribes of the earth see him and mourn? d) He shall send his angels with the sound of a trumpet. Sounds really similar to the trumpets in Revelation doesn't it? So you would also have to take a preterist view that the book of Revelation was written before 70 AD if you wish to hold to this view since Revelation is clearly describing future events.

I'm picking up what you are Laying down. I'm digging it. I just want to know is everything in revelation donesky? Or are we still waiting on a great white thrown judgement? Also, what about demons? I know Satan was cast into the lake of fire, but there is still demonic possession and stuff like that. Thanks for any help!

So we are just supposed to dismiss Paul and his teachings ?? Smh

Did u really steal my series name?

Half of the truth is being preached here. This is not a lie, and very true, but a good description of a single tree of someone unaware of the forest. Contra popular proverb, half the truth is NOT a lie, but merely incomplete. For example, God (Jesus) did in fact physically rode on a physical cloud on His ascension and in fact will come back exactly as that. Figurative language does not fit the ascension and the return will not either. There was a partial fulfillment, described in Matthew, but many promises remain unfulfilled. Again, a good presentation of the partial fulfillment prophesied in Matthew, but unable to explain the rest of the forest.

I would change this title to "Eschatology Matters A Little Bit"

Hang on, talk about taking things in context, that C. S. Lewis quote was highly misrepresented. Here's the entire quote: “Say what you like,” WE SHALL BE TOLD, “the apocalyptic beliefs of the first Christians have been proved to be false. It is clear from the New Testament that they all expected the Second Coming in their own lifetime. And worse still, they had a reason, and one which you will find very embarrassing. Their Master had told them so. He shared, and indeed created, their delusion. He said in so many words, ‘this generation shall not pass till all these things be done.’ And he was wrong. He clearly knew no more about the end of the world than anyone else.” It is certainly the most embarrassing verse in the Bible. Yet how teasing, also, that within fourteen words of it should come the statement “But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.” The one exhibition of error and the one confession of ignorance grow side by side. That they stood thus in the mouth of Jesus himself, and were not merely placed thus by the reporter, we surely need not doubt. Unless the reporter were perfectly honest he would never have recorded the confession of ignorance at all; he could have had no motive for doing so except a desire to tell the whole truth. And unless later copyists were equally honest they would never have preserved the (apparently) mistaken prediction about “this generation” after the passage of time had shown the (apparent) mistake. This passage (Mark 13:30-32) and the cry “Why hast thou forsaken me?” (Mark 15:34) together make up the strongest proof that the New Testament is historically reliable. The evangelists have the first great characteristic of honest witnesses: they mention facts which are, at first sight, damaging to their main contention. C.S. Lewis is defending the validity of the Bible, and the quote Jeff read was the voice of C.S. Lewis but the voice of skeptics as understood by Lewis.

Allegorizing Scripture is a tragedy and this guy is a master.

these scriptures--->[Mat 10:8-10 KJV] 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. 9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, 10 Nor scrip for [your] journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat. dont mean "dont bring your wallet" ...... remember-->[Isa 28:10 KJV] 10 For precept [must be] upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, [and] there a little: study the harmony of the gospels and notice that this means dont take money in return for THE SPIRIT.

I appreciate your ministry, what you do at the mormon temples, and the abortion mills. However, I disagree with Calvinism and preterism. 1) I very distinctly had an experience with Holy Spirit, where I was given a clear choice whether or not to follow Him. 2) We will be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye... that is our "blessed hope". There are many studies by outstanding Bible scholars also, that outline Biblical patterns, and describe the differences between rapture and second coming (Chuck Missler, Ron Rhodes, etc). Regardless, be blessed, continue in the faith, and keep studying~👍😎

For anyone who thinks Jesus returned in 70 A.D..... did you see Him return yourself or did someone tell you about this supposed return? Jesus Himself said in Matthew 24 vs 23-28 that if anyone has to tell about about it, then it wasn't Him. There's also no evidence that His return will be invisible (as partial preterism says), any more than lightning is invisible or the people who saw Christ ascend into Heaven 'saw' Him ascend invisibly (might as well try and divide by zero if you think you can make that last part work). Preterism dies on the hill of the dating of Revelation. Revelation could not have possibly been written before 70 A.D., which would have placed John's vision around the time or shortly after Paul was still writing his epistles to the church. Nero had no interest in exiling Christians but loved murdering them. Why would Peter and Paul die under Nero's reign while John didn't? Had Nero tried and failed to boil John alive in oil, his next choice would likely have been burning on a cross or beheading. And there's no evidence that John survived multiple attempts on his life immediately preceding his exile to Patmos. There was a celebration on Patmos in 1995 commemorating 1900 years (approximately, as in 95 or 96 A.D.) since the Revelation Jesus showed to John. The overall predominant view since the first century is that John was exiled under Domitian and survived into the time of Trajan. It wasn't until centuries after the original apostles had died that the minority pre-70 A.D. view came into being, which brings up a serious credibility issue with the Neronic dating. And what other events in the 1st century A.D. are ever claimed as taking place 2 or 3 decades earlier (or later, for that matter)? With all of the accurate records kept during the Roman Empire era and surviving today, there is little room for such a vast difference being feasible. It's commonly believed that Jesus died around 30 or 33 A.D., Paul and Peter were martyred in the 60's, Nero lived from 37-68 A.D., etc. No one says Jesus died in 3 A.D. or 60 A.D., or that Peter and Paul were martyred in the 30's A.D. or 90's A.D., or that Nero actually reigned around the time of Jesus' ministry as recorded in the Gospels. The majority of scholarship places John's writing of Revelation in the mid-90's, but somehow preterists think it's ok to switch this around by 3 decades? The great fire of Rome took place for nearly a week during 64 A.D., but no one places it in 62 A.D. let alone 34 A.D. A powerful earthquake in 60 A.D. devastated Laodicea. And yet it's never claimed that this earthquake took place in 30 A.D. 30 years prior. With the vast majority of evidence to the contrary, preterism literally rests on this single pillar of the Neronic dating of the book of Revelation. 2 Corinthians 3:7-11 and Hebrews 10:9-10 both clearly show that both the Old and New covenants could not have existed side-by-side. In Hebrews 7 we see how the priesthood was changed, and there was a change of the covenants with Christ (vs 12). The Mosaic law had long since finished by the time of the 2nd temple's destruction. Even Hebrews 8:13, which preterists love to quote, says the Mosaic law had already become obsolete so it's impossible for it to have still been 'growing obsolete' at the time of it's writing pre-70 A.D. Many Old Covenant saints came out of their graves for a short time after Jesus resurrected and appeared to a lot of people (Matthew 27). One could reasonably infer that they testified about who Christ is while they walked the earth again for a short time. Christ is the end of the Mosaic law for all who believe in Him. There was nothing left to still be in effect after the cross. The laws of purification were superseded by the Jesus' blood. There is no longer a requirement to stone those who don't celebrate the Friday night to Saturday night Sabbath. Those who celebrate the Jewish feasts and holidays are on equal footing with those who don't (Romans 14). What was left to still be in effect for about 40 years from the cross until 70 A.D. with the fall of Jerusalem? Sacrifices? Jesus was the last sacrifice, and there was nothing forgiven under the animal sacrifices that took place after the cross. To say otherwise is blasphemous to what He accomplished for us. The animal sacrifices after the cross until 70 A.D. were not authorized to forgive sin and were an insult to the cross. Remember Nadab and Abihu in Leviticus 10 when they brought unauthorized sacrifices? They died horribly, by fire. No such thing took place after the cross. Why is that? It's because the Mosaic law was finished, and the New Covenant of grace was in effect and showing mercy to give them time to repent in Jerusalem before it fell. Had the Old Covenant somehow still been in effect, there would have been mass casualties at the temple since Jesus was the only way to forgiveness going forward. I don't think most partial preterists believe forgiveness actually took place under the Old Covenant system post-Calvary, as I consider them brothers and sisters in Christ with a wacky eschatology. ( this would be an ironic statement if it came from a dispensationalist--- so, no, I am not a dispensationalist. A common misconception is that to be a futurist the only option is dispensationalism instead of historic pre-millennialism). No real evidence for a pre-70 A.D. dating of Revelation, a position in diametric opposition to nearly 2000 years of overwhelming scholarly consensus of a post-70 A.D. writing, and no way for the Mosaic Law to exist alongside the New Covenant... A very, very shaky foundation indeed.

I don't understand how those who teach this stuff for a living can be so confused about this. The millennial reign is what was believed by the earliest Christian writers; unanimously. Amillenialism is not existent and that is important because the doctrines taught by the earliest writers were only two generations removed from the Apostles. But nevermind that, this is why grammar matters. The personal pronoun in 1 Cor 15:25 is not referring back to Jesus, it is referring back to the Father. Just go and read the Psalm 110, "sit at my right until I make your enemies your footstool." The I, being God the Father! I mean, this is rudimentary.

He has a weird view on eschatology. Not with him on this.

Sigh...... honestly don't know what this is about. Made it past halfway, but couldn't finish it. Seemed to be going nowhere. Love your work Jeff but Eschatology is not your forte. Keep up the great work with the abortion clinics, JW's, and Mormons. God bless you.