Evenepoel Smokes a Disappointed Vingegaard in Time-Trial | Vuelta a Espana 2023 Stage 10 

That is my favorite line of the day. Great humor and down-to-earth mentality

Great guy, big fan.

Super Sepp! Gotta love his team dedication. Hopefully Primoz and Vin can deliver him to Madrid in Red.

Absolutely!

Love his sense of humour! He is always such a steady super domestique and to have the spotlight on him now is so much deserved. I hope he can hold on to the jersey for a couple days more, but with the races that are coming, it might be hard. I really would love to see him on top by the end though!

I agree, I wonder who’s Sepps Guru😂

​@majob2363 it's actually his father, his parents are awesome!!

3 grand tours in the same year is remarkable. Hope he's barely had to do anything in between.

Loved that comment! Class act!

Soler performed well, as expected, but Kuss OVERPERFORMED

@@bene4577 you are right...I guess Kuss is in great shape and a real contender for the GC.....

@@pauljansen1137 my bet would be he ends up in third, behind Rogla and Ayuso

@@bene4577 Ayuso or perhaps Almeida.....

@@pauljansen1137 yeah one of the UAE guys, could even be Soler

He wasn't frustrated because of that. He was frustrated because he genuinely had a bad performance today

He will have to measure himself against the level of performance he displayed in the last week of the Tour.

@@matejstankovic9843 was he frustrated tho? has he ever performed in any race besides TDF or Dauphine? He's a one trick/peak pony and I think he knows that himself very well

😀...very true!!

​@@bene4577 winning the TdF is one hell of a trick

Ooooor... Could they be working for him, saying "thanks for the help in the Giro and the Tour, now it's your turn"?? Just to show the strength of JV.

Vingegaard having a bad TT today may solidify his place as EPIC domestique for Kuss/Roglic. That's what I'm hoping :)

​@@minivandan6043I can't see how vingegaard can expect kuss to work for him now.

@@andrewcockburn7484 He doesn't. Jonas has confirmed that JV is treating Kuss as a serious GC contender. He even said that if he drops out of GC, he'll be more than happy to ride for Kuss all the way.

​@@darkiee69i think they will try to win the vuelta with sepp but if remco attacks on a moutain and kuss is dropping, jonas and roglic wont wait for sepp. maybe jonas if he gets dropped on a stage before but im still refusing to believe that there is actually someone at this vuelta that can drop jonas so hard on a mountain that he's completely falling out of the competition for the overall win

Filippo Ganna is an Italian

@@PazLeBon fake news

I cant wait ,,,,, jumbo in perfect position

This TT stage was not technical and not long enough for a big hit by Evenepoel

Remco not having as strong team support as some of the other teams, like Jumbo and UAE, leaves him a bit open to being isolated and attacked. He's riding super strong though...really impressive. Seeing all these amazing athletes giving it their all out on the hills in these beautiful countries is such a joy.

@@genghi5khan i live in spain. isit beautiful? its hot and barren andlots of Spanish people haha

UAE's performance was great for Remco. Got another 3 riders to mark Jumbo in the mountains. So it was definitely his day more than Jumbo's, despite Kuss' amazing ride into the unknown.

YEAH-NAAAH

Finally, no more of them 2nd tier GC guys

I believe Remco is probably the strongest rider in the Vuelta on his own. But you can’t win a big tour on your own.

He's had that nickname for years

Froome didn't have to fight a rider like Pogacar. Vingegaard can win the Tour-Vuelta double, but he will have to go to the TDF undercooked. This isn't an option against Pogacar.

Vingegaard showed the brilliance of vingegaard by winning 2 stages and finishing 2nd 17 sec behind his teammate whitch he gifted the win

Did you miss the worlds?

Crazy how close Ganna was to 2 stage wins.

@@eleycki I saw worlds, that parcour suited RC for sure.

​@@chrispyy606060606this 1 suited FG. They're the best at different aspects of TT. The flats are slightly ganna. The hills it's RE

lets start the disKUSSion about Sepp winning the whole thing

Obviously not.

Jonas will destroy them third week of the tour

Kuss didn't ride for GC in the Giro or the Tour so he only works half the days. He doesn't have to be stronger than Roglic or Jonas, he has to outlast Remco. And if Remco is going to sit on the front and go a steady pace, he won't drop Sepp unless Sepp attacks to his teammates' advantage and his teams overall chance of winning (with Roglic or Jonas).

@@prfit The thing is though, minutes can be gained or lost in the mountain stages. Kuss himself said that in his interview. As a world class climber, he speaks from experience. If he’s not on the same level as his fellow GC contenders, his comfortable lead can be easily lost in any of the remaining 4 mountain stages. Keeping that lead isn’t as easy as it sounds. And I’m not saying he has no chance of winning, I just think he has less odds than Roglic or Vingegaard due to fatigue carried over.

Think people forget he has that lead for the same reason Soler and Landa were up there. Being allowed in the break because nobody feared them winning. He's only going to be losing time from here.

Hahahaha! He'll lose a mountain stage because he thought there'd be a bunch sprint after a fast run-in to the finish. Jk, jk! Just a little harmless fun because Remco didn't seem to know he was racing for the stage win the other day.

True, Big Mouth is always full of excuses.

Remco targeted the world's time trial and prep for that is not ideal for what is needed for the Vuelta. I would say that Roglic is the best prepared, followed by Remco and then least prepared is Vingegaard. It's actually amazing the level Vingegaard can still reach given that he barely trained after TdF and is well past his peak. This is gearing up to be a very interesting Vuelta. Hopefully nobody crashes out and we can have all the GC favorites duke it out in the mountains.

Why? Vingegaard riding with 80 km/h on the flat for 2 - 3 km in TDF ITT 😂, Gana and Evenepoel are lucky he didn't mopped the floor with them! What a farce 😂

But why do they do it, and why is it a sign of a bad performance? Thanks

@@endokrin7897 when the legs are not pushing enough power, the cyclist ends up pulling too much with Thu upper body against the handlebars, pulling the body forward, the constantly having to push the butt back on the seat

That's exactly what he's not going to do, he knows Kuss is not the leader for Jumbo. They tried the same a few days ago and Remco didn't follow Kuss

​@@gabrielmazza7923So he will just let Kuss win the Vuelta?

@@JanezMLGucek will Roglic and Vingo let Kuss win the Vuelta? That's how you call a bluff 😉

Evanepoel has way too much smarts to do that. He'll let Jumbo and UAE fight it out and pick which wheels he needs to follow.

@@JanezMLGucek You're assuming Kuss will have the legs to attack at the end of his 3rd three week grand tour of the year.

Kuss needs to stay ahead of Remco (and the rest.) As long as he can do that, why would Jonas waste his powder? But Jumbo can't let Remco run away. If Kuss cracks, I doubt he expects the two presumed captains will risk the race to stay with him. When you show up with the squad Jumbo brought this year, you obviously expect to win.

Feel they'll both be working for Roglic. No matter what Roglic says.

So did Roglic and Ayuso. Your point is???

And where was Sepp? Everywhere.

Too many stupid excuses for Vingegaard.

it really isnt though, he basically only rides the tour mate

​@@baumann9551what? O Gran Camiño, Dauphiné Liberée, Basque Country, Paris - Niza

@@npa5825a mere month and a half of elite racing, stretched over how many more moths?

Is it? Or is it just the length Pogacar's seasons usually are by the time he gets to the Tour de France, against a fresher Vingegaard?

well@@luckyspurs fresher... not sure what you mean... Pogacar had to stop months due to injury. So it's not as if he was not fresh. Probably the opposite, he needed more training to reach his peak during the Tour.

next few montain stages are more like jonas than primoz...but that is only good, if they fight between them and let Almeida go for the GT GC win

Too early to say, we haven't even seen any proper mountain stages yet

@@bernardo9202 Jonas is trash as always outside TDF

​@@bene4577 trash😂. Won almost every stage race this year. Only paris nice he went third

@@bene4577 Hahaha this kid is so mad it is actually hilarious. You would think Vingegaard shagged his mom 😂😂

Looks like Ayuso is sliding forward as his cockpit is too far forward/saddle is positioned too far back (under UCI regulation there is a limit how far forward it can be) and he pushes himself back from the tip, to get some support. Many riders could have a much better position if UCI regulations allowed - and if they weren't limited to the components coming from their sponsors... :D I am just speculating though.

van der poel does it as well all the time when in TT

Wouldn't underestimate him. Until now, there weren't that hard stages for him. For sure I think, he hoped for a better time today but the mountains are his real "thing". We will see.

@@robertzimmermann9710 Yes, you’re right. But I’m afraid, as a Dane, that he doesn’t have it to go deep there either, but let’s see. In danish interviews he also seems very relaxed and happy that either Kuss or Roglic will take the first spot. I think the JV masterplan was to bring him to put pressure on Evenepol for Roglic to exploit, the extra cream on the cake is that Kuss is a surprising and very likeable challenger, which makes it even better for their plans to get Roglic the win..

he won't reach the podium imo, he's the decoy to help Roglic, never was anything more in this race, Kuss has better chances to finish on the podium than Jonas

Jonas doping program is schleduled for TDF so of course you are probably right...Pogi is probably the best cyclist of all time and Vinge smoked him like a barbecaue on Tdf...soo unrealistic...to me Jonas is new Lance...

​@@ks-li4iccope

I think he's in the same boat not understanding the interviewer. I love when they interview in their native language and the commentators translate.

Hell, on a flat road without a tailwind I have a hard time even reaching 56 km/h. And he does that on average. Fucking insane.

There is a reason why almost nobody wins the Tour de France and the Vuelta in the same season. You would have to go undercooked into the Tour de France, which isn't an option for Vingegaard against a rider like Pogacar. This is entirely normal; you can't withold a physical peak like that for months. The people you see criticizing Vingegaard are either people with absolutely no knowledge of cycling or endurance sports in general, or it is butt hurt fans of riders Vingegaard beat. Pogacar-fans, most likely.

He said himself that he's not sure how he's gonna perform in Vuelta, too. I think he's exploring his own ability here.

It's not Joao Almeida's forte either though.

He was getting DOWN!

Did you forget the stage 20 of Giro d'Italia?

I think Jonas makes a fantastic domestique. I know he has 2 Tour wins, obviously, so he's 'overqualified' as a domestique. But if he is honest with himself, and feels he doesn't have a real chance to win, he would seemingly be content with one of his teammates winning La Vuelta, and I get the feeling he'd ride to fully support his teammate(s). He would be one of the very best assistants you could ever have in the mountains. Reminds me of Adam Yates of UAE in the 2023 Tour, being amazing help for Tadej. I am warming up to Jonas. If he ends up riding to support Roglic or Kuss, he'll have huge respect because of it!

Remco is TT champion so he's gonna wear that jersey, hence white falling to 2nd best young rider (Martinez) -- but looking at youth GC Martinez was ahead of Remco at the end of stage 9

Or maybe riding the Vuelta a month after the Tour de France is not an easy task. How many riders won the TDF-Vuelta double the last 30 years?

I would go with all, but that comes from decades of watching them all do it, repeatedly, and while some get crucified for it others get a free pass and even continue to race and/or lead teams or work somewhere else in the industry.

We all know whoever accuse him for doping are Pogacar fans, so don't worry about it.

what about armstrong times? why was he winning so much when everyone was doped? was he still that much better than everyone?

@@kingjaskoYes. Armstrong is the best TdF rider to have lived.

@@kingjasko He wasn't winning that much. Pretty much only showed up for the Tour. He also wasn't winning by "That Much." Cycling is a mature sport. Greatly contested. He was just a bit better, at The Tour, consistently, for a period. Just as is the case with training, and nutrition, and rest and recovery, doping is also something some are better at than others. That everyone had access to the same drugs, and everyone did them, does not mean they all had equally good programs built around their availability. Lance's setup; including everything from natural talent, perhaps even talent for absorbing and benefitting from EPO, to training/rest/recovery _In_The_Presence_of_Doping_ (which differs from training Without Doping), was, in total, a bit ahead. He was obviously an outlier, like all multiple TdF winners, but not something completely removed from what has come before and after. If you want to see doping vs not, look at Bodybuilders pre vs post anabolics...... Whatever riders may be using now, does not appear to give nearly the insurmountable edge free-for-all EPO use did. Endurance athletes have just recently started reliably creeping past records set in the 90s. In cycling, mainly due to electronic gears, better aero and much more precise measurement and training on account of improvements in stationary trainers. I'm sure they still pop whatever they think they can get away with, but I'm not sure anything currently not tested for, is all that significant. Jonas, being the world's most talented big-mountain climber but from a country where the longest climb is a freeway overpass; almost certainly has benefitted more from the shift to trainers and general obsession with watts and power curves, than any "supplement" he may be taking. He has eaten a lot of fish over the years, I suppose. Which is healthy. But then again, Lance was from Texas, where frisbee sized steaks are what's on the menu.....

Only Soler’s setup that looks really odd on UAE

I"ll go with : anyone who had a look at the startlist and has followed cycling for at least 2 years

Nobody, because it's not even close to be as exciting. It's still better than the Giro though.

Chris Horner

Is Chris Horner a Texan?

Red jersey can't get into a break, it would be a waste of energy and position. Strategy should be the opposite. Sepp should not work, just follow Remco. Remco has to attack since he is behind. When he has a moment of weakness or the incline is right, Roglic should attack. Vingegaard isn't a factor unless his form recovers.

@@insinty yeah, it's that bad day, which Kuss could have before without having to worry. We'll see but I wish him well.

Remco would have smoked Ganna, but he has spent alot more energy then him since the start so :) Put them both at the start fresh and remco smokes ganna 90% of the time all day any day

Slipstream is negligible in a Time Trial; you're not allowed to draft. Right?🤔

you can but can't stay behind for long, not sure how long prob 1-3 sec@@endokrin7897even 1 second is enough to gain 1-4 sec advantage believe it or not ;)