As far as I can tell, Mark Hamill has been a kid his entire life, and Harrison Ford has been a grumpy old man his entire life, and I respect them both for it.
I literally can't imagine what it was like seeing the first trilogy with no prior knowledge of it. I remember joking about this very topic with my dad who was 10 or 11 when Empire Strikes Back came out. He talked about how everyone's mind was blown when they found out about Vader being Luke's father yet to anyone born after these movies came out...its hard to even call it a plot twist because it's one of the most iconic/quotable/memeable moments in all of cinematic history. Like let's be honest, most of us under the age of like 50 already knew going into the first movie whether we had previously seen any other star wars movie or not, that Vader is Luke's father. It almost makes me envious in a way that people got to experience that twist while it was still actually a twist.
I was there...it was such a big surprise because you really didn't see it coming. Nobody expected Star Wars to be any more than a space adventure, that plot revelation came out of nowhere.
To all those saying it was only the Disney+ versions that had the line, y’all are wrong. It was added in the last special edition before D+, so it’s been there for a few years
@@actaeondiomedes4270 www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cinemablend.com/news/2484984/greedo-actor-is-confused-by-maclunkey-and-star-wars-in-general It was only added when D+ came out
A New Hope is by far my favorite, because I saw it in the theater as a 9-year-old, and it’s impossible to overstate just how obsessed EVERY kid suddenly became with it. The toys and action figures and references were suddenly everywhere, we knew every line, and Darth Vader was the coolest bad guy EVER. It was unreal.
That’s pretty much what I wanted to ask. Why is it so hard to watch the original version of the movie? Didn’t millions of people buy the a VHS or copy of the original release first?
R’lyehian Bunnyman he meant the setting and idea of Star Wars allows for the perfect franchise. Not necessarily that the groundwork that was set has always been used well. You can have an amazing beach front property and still build a crappy house that ruins everything except what the setting provides.
The franchise as a whole is pretty perfect. The movies aren’t, but there are a TON of fantastic Star Wars games and books, a few fantastic TV shows, etc. The setting and concept of Star Wars is amazing
The Luke, Vader and Emperor scenes in Return of the Jedi were legendary and i think thats the problem, George Lucas knew exactly how their story goes but didn't know what to do with everyone else so it ended up being middling
The Cosmonaut: The only people who like the prequel trilogy are children or people who grew up watching them as children Me a person that grew up with them on VHS and watched The Phantom Menace so many times the tape stopped working: Well he's not wrong
@@Naafidy And theres nothing wrong with that^^ The Prequels have so much great Stuff in them to love^^ Not all of it of course, but still^^ ROTS is still my favorite SW Movie^^.
While I can agree with shitting on first 2 movies, when people call ROTS bad, I just can't understand these people It has the best lightsaber duel till this day, it has great action and story is not that bad either(except some awful dialogs between Anakin and Padme but it's just George being awful dialogs writer) And it has freacking Palpatine rocking everyone in the movie and succeeding If Palpatine wouldn't have been that good, we wouldn't have him again in the episode 9. I really hope that The Cosmonaut will not blindly shit on the third movie without saying good stuff about it.
can we please take a moment to thank marcia lucas (george lucas’s ex wife) for editing the original triology, and in particular a new hope, as well as she did? most people tend to credit movies to just directors and actors, and in doing so fail to realize that well written and well directed moments in film will still fall flat without good timing and editing. marcia gave the films so much heart and really helped structure them into something watchable. edit (ironically): isnt it funny how after they split up george lucas decided to fuck with the movies and now they’re not as good anymore because he ruined the pacing and tension .
I was there in 1977 to see the original Star Wars when it was brand new in theatres. It was so incredibly awesome! Over the next six months I must have gone to 15 or more theatres to see it again and again, taking friends and family to see this amazing thing.
"Imagine you were sitting in a theater in 1977..." I don't actually have to imagine it. ;p The film broke half-way through and we had to come back another time to see it in its entirety. It was *excruciating*. I also vividly remember when our parents took us to see Raiders of the Lost Ark, and at the first shot (of the mountain), my brother whined, "You took us to see a *nature* movie?! :(:("
Fun fact: When "A new hope" came out, the tech for the scrolling text in the beginning, hadn't been invented yet. So the crawl effect was accomplished with the camera moving longitudinally along a 6 foot long model.
I was 12 when A new Hope came out. It was the coolest thing ever. I would pick up glass bottles along the side of the road and turn them in at the convenience store to get the deposit back (remember when that was a thing) so I could go see it again. Very few movies have made me feel like that since. It's so sad to see where the franchise has gone.
I have the 2005 dvds. So I don't have to anymore. Do you know if you can get punished for having the harmy despecialized editions? Or is it only illegal for the seller but not the buyer.
@@sunwukong5518 yeah you get punished George Lucas breaks in your house with a baseball bat smashes up your DVDs while screaming “Jar Jar is the key to everything”
Wow. You're experience with A New Hope is almost exactly my experience with it. Saw it more times than grains of sand in all the Earth but then watched with a GF many years ago who hadn't seen them. I completely wiped my mind of any opinions on the movie, pretended it was 1977 and gave it a go. I have never watched any Star Wars movie since without putting myself in the mindset of the time of its release, sitting in my imaginary theater, cranking the volume, and being absolutely stunned. Doing that with the Harmy Despecialized blew my little mind.
Im Gen Z so the prequels were my childhood 😭 Attack of The Clones, Revenge Of the Sith and 'Star Wars Clone Wars' (Cartoon Network) especially hold a special place in my heart 💚 I never knew these films were hated until I discovered the Internet 😂 In hindsight they are very wooden, cringe and boring at times. But the nostalgia carries me through!
Nice to see ya enjoy them. For me they are terrible movies, and I did grow up with them, but if you acknowledge their flaws and like them regardless, good for you
@@clunkwestweed4541 As much as i want to say i hate it the good moments are peak star wars. Love the fights they have so much meaning to them especially obi wan vs anakin
Fletcher Gillespie episode 3 is far from “literal dogshit” even with the flaws in the film like the acting, dialogue, asinine romance and too much cgi everywhere. There’s way too many good scenes and moments and has phenomenal art direction, visuals and music. Even with its problems, there’s a lot to praise and love.
Fletcher Gillespie That’s not a hot take. I hate the original trilogy and love the new movies, that’s a hot take. (That’s actually true, and a much better example)
I appreciate that a scene was added on Hoth because of an external event. For those who don't know, Mark Hamill was in a car accident before filming started on Empire Strikes Back that resulted in damage that permenantly altered his face. So Lucas added the scene with the yeti thing abducting Luke which caused the damage to his face.
Must be because he doesn’t think it is that bad, but he’s also really disappointed in a sad way. Also he’s not fucking YMS who’s like: “yeah it was good 5/10”
I really liked RotJ, I think a lot of the criticism is overinflated. The ending is so, so satisfying. The Jabba battle is contrived but really imaginative, the speeder chase was the shit when I was a kid, Luke vs Vader vs Emperor is iconic. There's lots to love. Meh.
@@finze1 okay, now I will tell you what I think: -The whole Jabba part is indeed contrived and kind of a shitshow but yes it’s fun. -They just skipped Luke’s transition into a proper Jedi because they had no time for that but they also couldn’t do a time skip because they had to save Han right away “we should just pretend he’s superior to Darth Vader now and he even made a lightsaber god knows how in a matter of a couple of weeks tops, and then let’s make him go back to Yoda because we can’t skip that, but he’ll just say he’s ready and die immediately so we can get that out of the way”. -The previous point would be less worse if they made it work with Han, but no, Han doesn’t do anything apart from running around in the woods and be jealous of Luke. If you’re thinking “oh but he helped destroy the bunker it was full on Han Solo greatness, you idiot” I invite you compare his involvement in the previous movies and how of an integral character he used to be, that’s why Harrison Ford himself thinks Han should’ve just died and closed his arc in a really tragic and satisfying way instead of all that tomfoolery. Even Force Awakens was a better movie for Han. -Endor is a very unimaginative location. If you don’t agree that’s okay but compare how fantastic were Tatooine, the Death Star, Hoth, Dagobah and Cloud City were next to the fucking Redwood forest full of Teddy Bears and that’s it. -I personally think the speeder bike chase is pointless and not exciting at all, and the green screen looks like shit. The only “consequence” is that Leia crashes and meets an Ewok before the rest, I put that on quotes because that has no impact on the story at all. Later on when they capture the rest, she tells them to let them go but they don’t listen anyway so what’s the point? -I hate the “from a certain point of view” scene. They don’t know what to do with the things they keep retconning and they just make the Jedi look like a bunch of hippie fools who lie to Luke about EVERYTHING. He is not the last Jedi, Darth Vader did not literally kill his father, and Leia is his sister now?! Plus ghost Obi-Wan sits on the log, wtf is that? -Now that I’m talking about that, I don’t love that “Leia is actually also Vader’s daughter and Luke’s twin sister” I like how they used that to make Luke snap at the end but I don’t quite like how it’s handled with how Luke’s behavior changes immediately from his friend that he obviously fancies to the sister she always knew she was?! What? -They waste like 15 minutes with the Ewoks. They get captured in a giant net like a cartoon and then the teddy bears take them to their camp and plan to eat them. Thank god two seasoned smugglers (of which one is a giant bear dog) and a oh so powerful Jedi Knight had a golden droid with them to pretend he’s a god, because the Ewoks would’ve killed them all. And then another five minutes of 3PO explaining the whole story so far in another language without subtitles but with sound effects. That whole part is prequel-bad if you ask me. -In my opinion, the final battle is wrong. We have our known and loved characters in a tensionless scenario with teddy bears killing the empire like in a cartoon on the ground, and the battle in space which has bigger stakes on paper is carried on by characters we don’t know at all except Lando, and he’s not an awesome character if you ask me, so how about at least WE PUT HAN AND CHEWIE ON THEIR FUCKING SHIP and get Lando on the ground, ain’t that better for the audience? The characters we know and love are in real danger and Lando does his job as a not so main character. -Palpatine is just a really old and evil guy, and he dies without having a character beyond that, this complaint is not so big because the point was Vader’s redemption, not Palpatine himself (but I can’t understand why they complained about Snoke but not about this though, it’s exactly the same PREQUELS DON’T COUNT) -there’s nothing to tempt Luke with??? Palpatine’s just like “come on Luke become evil, please” “come on Luke kill me please” “come on Luke fight your father” Luke of course says no and that leads to Vader’s redemption, which again that was the point, but there’s no tension, there’s no reason for us to think that Luke might actually turn evil and make us worried that he might just do it, making the scene much less interesting. -So because they blew up the Death Star again AND killed Palpatine, the Empire is immediately done for all over the galaxy, what? That’s so dumb they’ve been trying to correct it ever since in all kinds of new stories including the extended universe, Battlefront 2 (EA) and The Mandalorian but that doesn’t count. -After everything is over, the heroes get back together without a single word. They just dance and clap and it ends, pretty unsatisfying for me. -That’s about it.
Marcus: Why didn’t Luke Just Kill Jaba Then? Well Uncle Cosmonaut, It’s because he wanted the pleasure of looking at Slave Leia. Little did he know Yoda would tell him 5 minutes laters that’s his damn sister.
It took us 2months to get to see it in 1977....the lines where crazy long and every showing would sell out. When we did finally see it it blew my mind. It was an experience that I had never seen before. I will never forget that viewing.
Imagine if Han died in Empire, then the emotional weight of this transferred into ROTJ, and Luke lost his shit in the final battle against Vader... Something to think about.
Apparently the opening crawl to Star Wars (1977) was heavily rewritten by Brian De Palma, a good friend of George Lucas who disliked the film's first edit. If the film had kept its original opening crawl, it would've been just as boring and uninteresting as the opening crawls for the prequels.
Came back to watch this masterpiece again and I just noticed the Father Gascoigne theme when you were roasting the prequels at the end! 😂😂 Been playing Bloodborne nonstop for the past week which is why I picked up on it. Good taste in music and in games, brother!
@Joseph Tacitus tell me where in my comment I said the prequels didn't suck? I'm just tired of the children whining when the sequels are clearly worse.
@@Anthonest1 ehh the sequels are mostly just retreads of the OT, so they are predictable (unless the director has a boner for SuBvErTiNg ExPeCtAtIoNs), but the prequels were a special kind of suck that happens when you give a guy like Lucas, who has good grand vision but is shit at fleshing it out, too much creative control. IMO, the prequels are worse
“You cannot watch the original 1977 cut of A New Hope legally” Me: *owns a dvd of A New Hope with the original 1977 cut on the second disk* “Are you sure about that?”
Except that version isn't that great. I have that too in fact, with the entire trilogy with the special editions as the main feature and the unaltered versions as a bonus disc. What sucks though is the quality isn't that great and there is motion smearing along with dryed out color.
@@sanchobanana3507 i0.wp.com/nerdvanamedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/dvd_saga.jpg?w=640 this image shows the box sets of both trilogies that I have
Yeah Prostitutes/One Night Stands are ok, Wifes/Husbands and Girl-/Boyfriends not. Ki-Adi-Mundi was married but that was because his species needed every member to procreate since they were endangered.
The reason I love empire strikes back is because of the cinematography. Almost every scene is just a work of art, I mean I want a picture of cloud city or Han and leia before Han is frozen in carbonate hung up in my room
Its pretty good now, but only some of it. The sequel trilogy stuff is shit and no one cares, the OT era stuff isn't fleshed out enough, GA is annoying restrictive and boring, most of the smaller modes aren't played anymore, the campaign and arcade are DOGSHIT they make me want to harm myself. The only good stuff is the clone wars content, but it's so annoying because you have like 110 GB game but like 80% of it is shit. Honestly they should have just made this a clone wars only game. Just like how the first one was a OT only game if they just did cw for the second they could have focused on it more and given us even more content, then the next game could be ST or KOTOR.
They did technically release the original versions on DVD but they were in the absolute WORST version possible in terms of clean up, sound quality, and visuals. Worth it though
First saw 'Return of the Jedi' on VHS in the 1980's at a neighbour kid's house, and thought it looked mind-blowing. Then years later at school the Lord of the Rings-reading kid in my class brought 'Star Wars' on VHS to play and I'm like "this is just 2 robots walking in the desert, boring!" and didn't watch the rest. Then when I was 20 I finally watched all 3 movies in a row, and clearly 'Empire' is the best, but my adult opinion of the first and third movies also completely flipped. Gotta say tho, if you watch something like hover-bikes flying through forests at a formative age, like 4 years old, you're gonna be fond of that imagery forever. It was the perfect preparation for the first movie I ever saw in a real cinema, "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids", which had similar looking special FX, with blue screen, miniatures, stop-motion, etc. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk, I turned 38 today.
“The only people that like them are children and people who watched them as children” As a person who was a child when the prequels released and absolutely loves them, I can say with certainty that this sentence is absolutely correct.
The prequels were made FOR children, so in essence, they are great movies cuz they pleased the target demographic. I saw the originals and prequels as a child, and liked the prequels better cuz they were more exciting. I got super bored watching Han and Leia fix the Falcon inside a space slug, and Luke lifting rocks on Dagobah. The bad writing/dialog things weren't apparent to me until I was an adult. HOWEVER... on re-watching the originals, I noticed that many of those same flaws existed. A lot of the dialog in ANH in particular is super cringey (which CVH's biased ass didn't even comment on). The universe in the Originals also just seems so empty and boring, now that the prequels have established and built up so much lore.
When I took my little brother to his first Star Wars movie (TLJ), he was talking to me, not looking at the screen as the opening Lucasfilm logo came up. When the opening title popped up onto the screen, he jumped about 8 inches out of his seat. One of the hardest laughs I've ever had.
@@MrTkillian Well no argument there. I consider it the worst of the franchise myself. Couldn't tell ya for the life of me who any of the important side characters are.
@@Sam-im5tc I agree, though ATOTC is pretty bad, but it was the first SW movie I saw in theaters so it has that nostalgia going for it. My biggest problem with TLJ is that I actually was interested in the main characters after TFA, but TLJ did next to nothing to build on it. Plus what it did to Luke. Plus just overall bad writing and disjointed narrative, tone and acting.
@@rishabhpoikayil7621 unless you have the original VHS of the trilogy there is literally absolutely no way to watch the theatrical cuts of the movies. Although there is a version of the 2004 special edition box set that has both the 2004 rereleases and the theatrical cuts on dvd but the quality of the dvd is a bit wonky and that version of the box set is more rare than the original VHS's
Props to George Lucas’s exwife. The only reason the original trilogy was as good as it was. These cinematic “geniuses” are only as good as their editor.
I've kept saying that Star Wars has only been as good as the people around George make it. Every time Lucas has a lot of the final say in the films we get stuff like the Prequels and ROTJ.
Tayo Jones not really, all behind the scenes and everything shows how not interested in anything george was with the prequels, complain about TLJ all you want, but Rian Johnson was very happy and loved doing Star Wars unlike george during the prequel era
Finally watched Star Wars for the first time as a 37 year old. So happy to see one of my favourite content creators has made a series on it! Can’t wait to catch up!
"Sith can have sex" er... about that, Vader can't really do that right...? I thought so till i remembered if there's a hole *left* there's a goal left.
I had a very similar experience with A New Hope. I watched the clone wars, the prequels, and the sequels before the originals. But when I did I tried to see it as a movie that just came out back in the day and that really pulled me into it. Instead of scoffing at the weird acting and bad choreography, I was legitimately hyped for the future of the series even though I already knew where it would end up.
I feel I have to defend the Twilight special edition re-release. Not all the changes were necessary; Adding all those CGI bats throughout the film was frankly gratuitous. But I think the scene where Edward reveals his face in full light, and his skin burns off, really fixed one of my big problems with the original.
Even with the stuff he hated, he still had to admit that the movie was better than average. There was some really good stuff in it, like seeing Luke doing his Jedi thing to rescue Han, the speeder bike scene, the Yoda scene that has Luke beginning to come to grips with the fact that Vader is his father, the Obi-Wan scene with Luke having to deal with the fact that he can't kill his father, the scene with Luke and Vader reuniting for the first time since their fight, the throne room fight, and let's not forget the amazing space battle to end the film. I can see why the Ewoks aren't too popular with people, and maybe George did make a mistake by not having that battle on Kashyyyk so that the Wookies would be fighting the Stormtroopers, but overall, there's a lot of really good stuff in ROTJ. It's not as bad as his hatred makes it out to be. Plus, Lando was just so awesome in this movie. Billy Dee Williams' acting was so good. Also, can we get some love for 3PO growing as a character in this film? In Star Wars, 3PO tells Luke that he's not much for telling stories, but in ROTJ, 3PO does a fantastic job of telling stories to the Ewoks. So, even 3PO grew as a character throughout the trilogy.
I'm happy I watched a new hope when I was 7, that's 10 years ago now and I can still remember the feeling of not knowing anything, and the universe growing on me over the last years is so awesome
I'm glad you're doing this. These movies are way too caught up in the hype machine to get any kind of real coherent thought, good or bad. I'm used to Star Wars reviews being always very hyperbolic and I I'm excited for part 2.
I like how underused the force was compared to the other movies in A New Hope. Basically it was used for mind control, chocking ppl, and miraculous stunts. And the only light saber battle was between obiwan and Darth Vader which was pretty funny because of how stiff the fight was relative to other movies.
The vast majority of Star Wars movies have only one lightsaber fight.Phantom Menace had two but the First was super brief, and The Last Jedi technically had three but one was a flashback, one didn’t actually use lightsabers, and one had a ghost just dodging the lightsaber. Revenge of the Sith is the only one too really capitalize on lightsaber duels, having a massive total of five.
It worked so well too because they're both old as shit now. It's been 18 years. When you see them in the prequels, the way they fight was so dynamic and fast. In the books, Darth Vader misses the way he used to be able to fight. So it just works so well
I remember hearing somewhere a really fascinating point about the opening scene of A New Hope that has stuck with me since. The point they were making was about the impact of the star destroyer's design. We see this tiny rebel ship, and then following behind is an Empire ship that starts large, but because it's a wedge shape the ship slowly grows larger and larger from the perspective of the audience. Combine this with this being the first time most in the audience had experienced Dolby surround sound, with the big bassy rumbling of the star destroyer's engines, and I can imagine the impact must've been immense.
I think I just find some of the more ridiculous stuff in Return of the Jedi more endearing that Marcus does. Perhaps it’s nostalgia or a difference in taste, but I just find it to be an immensely fun and satisfying film
I agree. While I know V is a better movie and IV really is a perfect starting point, VI is my personal favorite. The finale usually has the best moments since it can show the Hero at their best. In V, Luke could barely move his lightsabre, but in VI, he can lift C-3PO in a wooden throne. I know everyone hates on the prequels but it's my love of the original trilogy that makes me rethink the early 2000 ones. The first Star Wars movies I saw were the prequels and they were great! I understood most things and, tho I know the dialogue is bad and didn't have editors to fix such things, the badly written things were easy to understand. For me, the original saga (first six episodes) are the movies I enjoy, that I watch on my own or with others. And so far, The Mandalorian has a similar feel to the original three. If you've never seen a Star Wars thing before, the setting is weird, but it draws you in. There's a charm to it; one that all three movies have.
@Geralt of Trivia iblove the ewoks. They were my childhood. We all loved the awoke back then. I don't get this sudden hate for them. It must be this new generation of fans that wasn't there
@Geralt of Trivia Ooo... I really disagree with that one. If we're removing the ewoks can we also remove the puffin-merchandise that is porgs? They were only added due to the native birds being in every stinking shot and, unlike ewoks, don't add anything to the plot. Real question, in Legends Boba didn't die and had actually been eaten a few times before, has this been changed with Disney's new canon or do we simply not know?
@Geralt of Trivia That's too bad, Boba was an awesome character. You & I have very different definitions of embarrassment if you think the ewoks are but the porgs aren't. In the OT, no one brought the ewoks with them, so yeah, their cute and they don't blink but there only on one tiny moon of the planet Endor. Porgs are everywhere and unlike ewoks they aren't real. You can't what's on screen b/c they're computer generated, but ewoks? Ewoks are practical, at least there's something for the actors to look at. Porgs should've stayed on the island just like the puffins do...
@@OhCityGround yep, I loved the prequels as much as humanly possible, and now aotc is my least favorite star wars movie, but rots was the only one that stuck with me
@@OhCityGround i came back to Star wars after years and believing that the prequels are very good and fun to watch. So, i made a Star wars marathon, the OT was awesome i loved every second. I thought the prequels would have the same effect. Jesus Christ i could barely watch them without falling asleep. Finally i got why people call them bad. They are so boring and bad