Everything you need to know about the Slingshot 

Thanks this was definitely needed thanks man!!

But what about get up attack?

@@katmanfoo9404 jealousy

@@katmanfoo9404 the salt

I have played smash since the days of meele, but only until recently have I owned my own actual copy. All this insane movement tech is hard to find comprehensive videos on all of it. Thank you for having your channel, be this beacon of hope for us normies out there. Lol

Leo has apparently gotten really good with it, so I think you'll get your wish

I think he’s just trying to get views lmao

Not only does GimR believe in this tech but so do the players, pros already found crazy combos with they’re mains, I genuinely think tier lists might change because of this tech. Maybe not drastically, but a bit I believe yes.

I get what you mean but like players of those chars implemented the tech right away (maybe not ic's) leo was fsmashing like a mf day 1

@@billwoods7578 don’t be a dick.

Fr Fr I’d do the same lol

For real, for real. I’d do the same!

Honestly getting more content from him at all makes me happy

Forsooth, forsooth. I would behave identically!

Indubitably, Indubitably, I would mimic this as well!

I can't wait to start blasting people into next week with Zelda b-air

ty!

Right, or ppl saying its just irar must be spectators or casuals cuz anyone who actually plays and does each could tell you theres a difference, even if subtle

@@leaffinite3828 what is the difference

@@callumanderson6373 6 frames babyyy! Like, you can buffer it, instead of having to frame perfect an irar for max airspeed. Which is what makes it so good for shield pressure escapes (on top of hurtbox shifting for characters like sheik or mewtwo), and since you can buffer it the variance created by sheildstun is easier to time after so its pretty cool. Also pedantically "slingshot" refers to just the stick inputs, not the jump, so also the grounded pivot grab isnt irar at all really and thats technically slingshot tech. Of course some characters dont benefit much but thats life. Its often bcuz they were already exceptional at those things, so they dont need it. Like metaknight can already just jump or dashback and get out of oos options so it doesnt help him there much, but again thats cuz hes already good at that in a way many characters arent/werent. A character like falco or dk who often ends combos with a back air really appreciates having 7 frames instead of 1, even if the result "turn around full speed back air" is identical from either irar or slingshot, and characters with the aforementioned hurtbox shifting like slingshot a lot.

@@leaffinite3828 people been buffering irars since 2019 dude

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_2F_d5V3y3U.html check top comment on this vid lol gimr ain't find anything new

This isn’t the melee moonwalk input, why does this have so many likes lmfao

@@billwoods7578 how is it not? Dashing into the bottom gate opposite of the dash is a moonwalk input. Also I tried it in ultimate & it worked

I play PM and Melee and no, it's not quite the same. I started with a 3/8 circle technique to just get used to the timing on a pro controller, and then I switched to doing full-forward -> back diagonal. The inputs feel very different from one another.

It's the same input plus a jump. The good ol' Nike swoosh.

Do you set the C-stick to movement? For this trick?

@@SadFace229 I have it on tilt, tilt is a macro for attack plus directional input, so if you dash forward then tilt back+down then jump youll get a slingshot plus instant attack!

@@Balookie - Tilt back+down on C stick?

@@Pslamist yeah or smash, itll come out as a tilt since you have to use tilt stick

Yup!

Wait if oos attacks just dont matter anymore wouldn't that mean characters with amazing out of shield options are just invalidated? I'm asking cuz I'm a Bowser main

​@@Omeg1 Probably depends on the character if your opponent has a character that has high air mobility like Lucas then maybe but if it's a character with not much air mobility then I think you can punish, I really don't know maybe practice it with a friend and see which character you can punish or not

@@Omeg1 there will be situations where your shield is hit while your opponent is not doing sling shot.

it is just irar me and others have been telling people to diagonal input for easy irars since 2019

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_2F_d5V3y3U.html top comment on this vid lol, gimr tech explained in a short comment vs 30min video

To me its just an irar. Flicking the stick to diagonal instead of the side is simply a variation of an irar. I've been doing this since 2019. Nobody cared to name it, that's all.

@@Meroknight right but its only an irar if you jump, aand having more frames to buffer opens up more options and makes things easier.

@@leaffinite3828 im confused what holding back input does for you if you dont jump, is there some kind of other option out of it?

I guess we'll see how this one Aegis

You're so right

tbh right now at this time. Most of the top 10 abuse the fuck out of this tech rn.

That's called a wave bounce my dude!

I've been doing this since day one, when I noticed that my failed attempts to RAR gave me interesting movement options.

That's not true, there's another option. Stop playing villager.

@@dennisd.4726 salty much??

it's been a year and no one cares about or uses this tech, how 'game changing'

@@balcobops false hope for my boy lucas lmao

@@KJV_Enjoyer. spargo and mkleo still abuse this shit mfers are just blind.

Mkleo pretty much does this in his video, so if your still interested, check there

All the pro controllers have really bad snap back :/

@@dennisd.4726 Yeah I know 😔 My controller is getting old too so it’s especially pronounced when trying to learn this tech

What do you mean by snapback?

@@bigz3283 Flick the joystick on your controller in any direction. The speed in which it ‘snaps’ back into its neutral position is its snapback. Over time with extended usage a controller’s snapback will worsen, leading to more misinputs and mistakes

@@silvesta5027 thanks for the clarification

I found that when I aim to flick back from the initial dash, if I aim closer to 6 o'clock (which feels like 7 o'clock to me assuming my initial dash is 9 o'clock) I'll get the back jump animation. When I aim to down back in the diagram (let's say 5 o'clock), I end up with the regular jump animation as I do the slingshot. I am going to assume that I actually end up overshooting the threshold in the latter when I aim for the down back in the diagram. Reading the comments, I guess I'm accidentally IRAR then? I suppose I'll keep practicing to get the slingshot perfectly just in case the animation changes the hurtbox to protect me then.

if you say this is whack i think you didn’t understand it my man

Is this doable! I’m also a tap jumper discovering this for the first time and looking through comments wondering if it’s possible..

I do it a little after but I still suck at it so maybe I am wrong.

A little after. Like very little after but you definitely hit diagonal back just before you hit the jump button

Each input one moment after the other. But nothing at the same time. Very precise. But only took ...8 hours of raw practice to get down lol.

What controller do you use?!?!?!

This can be buffered and its a bit easier to do

It has the grounded uses as well, many seem to forget the jumping version is technically a derivative of the base slingshot comprising solely of the stick inputs

@@leaffinite3828 true didnt think of that

theres no difference if you were already buffering your irars which most people were. you can see people talk about it in the comments on this vid 2 years ago ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_2F_d5V3y3U.html

Sounds familiar

@@Ithaca-vv5dy History repeats

In 10 years people are gonna be buying switches and the best type of controllers just like wth melee.

will work on it, if i have something i’ll edit this (someday)

yeah lol, it's literally the same as RAR, there is no difference

I actually came here a year later to see this comment lol.

@@ArcChristelle lmao good seein you man

Absolutely

? it makes shield pressure safer?? Is a better turnaround on many characters *in most instances* it literally just makes moving easier , it should be utilized all the time lmaoo

@@nuorotikc until someone finds a counter

@@enkanomiya5283 nothing to counter, is just using buffer system to achieve shmovement. how is buffering a max airspeed turnaround jump not just inherently very good. Movement has infinite potential and is like half of smash OF COURSE ur gonna use this very useful tech. Like falcons turnaround is shit but he can just slingshot away instead shifting his hurtbox, INSANELY good and relevant, that's just one example too

Coney moment

unfortunately the cstick version is generally harder.

Yes my guy! You can C-stick diagonally to slingshot! Although its easier, the true slingshot is better because the C-slingshot forces an attack! -sent after Gimr commented and I didnt see his comment until I sent mine… Personally I find it easier, I guess Gimr finds it harder, I don’t wanna argue with Gimr so for some people-like myself and this dude who find it hard to flick it might be easier, I guess for most people its harder

Yeah I tried off and on for a couple hours and it still feels very random.

@@Maelthorn1337 wonder if what type of controller we are using matters. I don’t have the GameCube controller for it. Just the switch pro controller. So the analog is like a circle without the pointy shapes to make certain inputs more accurate

@@nl8784 I would think it should be easier on gamecube controller because of the octagonal gate. I'm probably just exceptionally bad at analog inputs because I only ever played fighting games on a fight stick. :v

Glad it was helpful!

@@GimR truly is! Its a more consistent alternative!

Who TF uses a X or Y instead of L or R is my question.

Imagine using x or y lol

it is the same thing. gimr has a misconception that no one was doing diagonal inputs for the easier irar but truth is all the good players already were