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The Slingshot - Universal Smash Ultimate Tech 

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ULTIMATE'S META FINALLY CHANGES
The Slingshot is finally here! using the flickshot, holdshot, and fullshot you can access full control of your character in Ultimate! Not only that, the input shortcut opens up new options.
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@GimR
@GimR 2 года назад
So...what are your thoughts?
@Sam-dt2nm
@Sam-dt2nm 2 года назад
mid
@Badmegaminxsolver
@Badmegaminxsolver 2 года назад
It’s insane, you’re amazing
@LICORNE-SOCIALISTE
@LICORNE-SOCIALISTE 2 года назад
This is just crazy, thanks man
@g3nd1a69
@g3nd1a69 2 года назад
This is definitely changing the meta!
@ObeseLoser
@ObeseLoser 2 года назад
Nairo missed his court date for this
@bigstonefoot
@bigstonefoot 2 года назад
to see ganondorf escape AND punish an out of shield grab almost brought me to tears. thank you gimr
@hamzachaudhry9058
@hamzachaudhry9058 2 года назад
that was beautiful... it moved me to tears almost too!!
@pinkzki6473
@pinkzki6473 2 года назад
That’s what caught my eye the most lol. Ganny is now optimal! I wonder if this will shift character tier list.
@LloydTheZephyrian
@LloydTheZephyrian 2 года назад
@@pinkzki6473 Mewtwo's better off, now that he can get his big tail out of danger.
@Cashmoneez
@Cashmoneez 2 года назад
ez parry tho
@illford6921
@illford6921 2 года назад
@@Cashmoneez ez parry but good pressure. Ganon is slow so it's not hard to recognize the move and parry but it's about the spacing as opposed to the move coming out. Slower Characters in ult struggled due to lesser movement options, for reference in Melee Ganon just wavelanded to mitigate slow air and ground speed, but since wavedashing isn't nearly as good this is the best thing he has as it lets him run away with a wall in front or behind
@audioshake6366
@audioshake6366 2 года назад
we now live in an era where _ganondorf_ can be safe on shield, what a time to be alive
@squirtleislife1312
@squirtleislife1312 2 года назад
Ganondorf's nair is safe even if you do it while raising. Shield pressure is not his problem
@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia
@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia 2 года назад
Bair was already safe on shield, lol
@thatoddtenant4844
@thatoddtenant4844 2 года назад
@@squirtleislife1312 well it was, but the other way
@navataru
@navataru 2 года назад
His nair is not safe on shield. Even if rising. The safest move he has is the sweet spot max spaced Bair at -4 on shield.
@Caleb-zl4wk
@Caleb-zl4wk 2 года назад
@@squirtleislife1312 you funny
@soulvynthis334
@soulvynthis334 2 года назад
For those of you practicing but can’t quite tell if or when it’s working, use Mario, you’ll know when you have the backwards momentum but you don’t go through the backflip animation. Instead you’ll go through the forward jump animation while drifting backwards.
@nathanielburns6692
@nathanielburns6692 2 года назад
Thanks
@nathanielburns6692
@nathanielburns6692 2 года назад
I started trying out the lag cancel timing by putting cpu at 30 and then doing down tilt back air back air jab lock with Mario
@dayman7136
@dayman7136 2 года назад
That's a really good way of knowing if you got it, it doesn't have to be Mario tho, many characters have this to animations just as distinct, works with wolf too for example
@2Kaleb
@2Kaleb 2 года назад
So should it ne back or forward jump?
@dayman7136
@dayman7136 2 года назад
@@2Kaleb it should be the forward jump animation
@stephaniecurry45
@stephaniecurry45 2 года назад
As gimr noted, I think a lot of people knew about this at a basic level but never thought of how powerful it could be when incorporated with buffering and as an actual tool
@rosewendigo7748
@rosewendigo7748 2 года назад
Yeah, I remember I used to do something similar to the flickshot, but never did it at a perfect or significant level shown here.
@stillcantthinkofaname4800
@stillcantthinkofaname4800 2 года назад
That's because it's just a variation on the RAR tech
@stephaniecurry45
@stephaniecurry45 2 года назад
@@rosewendigo7748 same, I literally only used it for Roy’s jair lmao
@sirsamo4232
@sirsamo4232 2 года назад
I figured this out when i was learning peach gf backair spam lol
@queven6355
@queven6355 Год назад
@@sirsamo4232 I been doing this input since Brawl. This was a tech in Brawl. Movements absolutely sucked in that game so when we found out you can just run forward hit diagonal back and jump to quickly turn around that was like the extent of advanced techs in that game 😂 But yes peach is a great example in which this input was already being done prior to its discovery. I’m honestly surprised people didn’t find it out when RARing was discovered
@g3nd1a69
@g3nd1a69 2 года назад
HE FINALLY MADE IT TO HIS LAB LET'S GO!!!
@odaciousL
@odaciousL 2 года назад
The real lab was the friends we made along the way
@GSEleven
@GSEleven 2 года назад
Long ass hallway...
@mellin7049
@mellin7049 2 года назад
@@odaciousL underrated comment
@Ridlay_
@Ridlay_ 2 года назад
:D
@MxPinky
@MxPinky 2 года назад
UH OH
@skaleee1207
@skaleee1207 2 года назад
9:30 Inputs 11:03 Flickshot 13:20 Holdshot 14:10 Fullshot
@XCharizard100
@XCharizard100 2 года назад
Ugh thank you
@jonyocum2401
@jonyocum2401 2 года назад
Thank you good sir
@rainbowresorts
@rainbowresorts 2 года назад
Thank
@alecorn5200
@alecorn5200 2 года назад
Thank you lol i didn't wanna see the whole video for it lol
@OrigamiAhsoka
@OrigamiAhsoka 2 года назад
Thanks lmao
@tatewaki11
@tatewaki11 2 года назад
09:32 Timestamp for the start of the explanation 10:58 Flickshot 13:19 Holdshot 14:11 Fullshot
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 года назад
9 whole minutes lol
@zachtheantispamcop9753
@zachtheantispamcop9753 2 года назад
Thank you
@kelownatechkid
@kelownatechkid 2 года назад
Thank you
@jojivlogs_4255
@jojivlogs_4255 2 года назад
@@DrSwazz niggas dont know how to scrub through a video
@jonsiarnar
@jonsiarnar 2 года назад
doing god's work
@gormVOD
@gormVOD 2 года назад
11:00 how to flickshot 12:22 flickshot drift away 12:38 flickshot drift in 12:52 tips on failures 13:20 how to holdshot 14:15 how to fullshot 15:05 buffer system
@hkapples2347
@hkapples2347 2 года назад
thanks
@silentjugller
@silentjugller 2 года назад
Thx
@seven3197
@seven3197 2 года назад
To the people wondering about patches. This is an emergent tech, which means they would have to tweak the whole base mechanics if they wanted to get rid of it. It would be a whole mess and if they in fact removed it many other things would be affected
@ABC-ik9vj
@ABC-ik9vj 2 года назад
I don't see anything broken there, they're obviously not patching this lmao
@cancrusherify
@cancrusherify 2 года назад
@@ABC-ik9vj yeah, this doesn't affect the enjoyment of casual players.
@PunkySlush
@PunkySlush 2 года назад
can't patch if they said no more future updates
@MikeyProHD
@MikeyProHD 2 года назад
13.0.1 is the last update for Ultimate anyway, so idk why people think that this'll change.
@ABC-ik9vj
@ABC-ik9vj 2 года назад
@@cancrusherify maybe if they find something else on a character but yeah
@jaceface1173
@jaceface1173 2 года назад
RIP VGBC Mom, that was a sweet dedication
@Rizzy_K
@Rizzy_K 2 года назад
Not enough comments like this. I realize it’s a video game channel, but let’s not forget the content creator has a real life outside of video games. Rip VGBCM.
@chanlaman2565
@chanlaman2565 2 года назад
Yeah, it was. She’s beautiful and it sounds like she was and still is loved very much. In my view, mothers are what keep the world spinning. There’s nothing better than a mother’s unconditional love and support
@Rizzy_K
@Rizzy_K 2 года назад
@@chanlaman2565 true man. You only get one mother(biologically speaking).
@PhantomAkira5
@PhantomAkira5 2 года назад
I accidentally disliked this comment even tho I meant to like it :(. You get my like back
@Naminegir
@Naminegir 2 года назад
Surprised I had to scroll this far to find a comment like this, but may VGBC mom rest well 💙
@Hyurno
@Hyurno 2 года назад
Ness can get so many more easy kill options with back air now omg
@Andmau2552
@Andmau2552 2 года назад
Also prob a cross-up tomahawk grab to back throw
@bluyu
@bluyu 2 года назад
It also just makes rising bair safer. I'm just shocked at the idea that Ness players didn't already know this tech. Lucas players have been doing it for years lol
@Nokyyyyy
@Nokyyyyy 2 года назад
He can do pk fire even more safer now
@lucawendel7644
@lucawendel7644 2 года назад
i saw someone truecombo pk fire 3x into dair spike... lets hope you can di out of it
@BlueboySSB
@BlueboySSB 2 года назад
and nair
@nobodygoodfr9556
@nobodygoodfr9556 2 года назад
Smash players: "Command inputs are too difficult." Also Smash players: *basically doing a pretzel motion over and over* Never change, Smash community.
@BBB-pe3ip
@BBB-pe3ip 2 года назад
Does that include Melee players? Because they love discovering new command inputs. The slingshot command input is similar to moonwalking.
@jojivlogs_4255
@jojivlogs_4255 2 года назад
@@BBB-pe3ip neither the slingshot or moonwalk are command inputs
@jojivlogs_4255
@jojivlogs_4255 2 года назад
i dont think a single smash player thinks command inputs are too difficult. however ive seen a lot of fgc people quit melee because they could hardly l cancel lmao
@nobodygoodfr9556
@nobodygoodfr9556 2 года назад
@@jojivlogs_4255 I saw a lot of people complaining about command inputs when Terry was added. Obviously there weren’t many professional players complaining, but definitely a lot of more casual players did cause they were “unfair”
@dj_koen1265
@dj_koen1265 Год назад
Smash players have consistently complained about command inputs because they were too hard and gatekeeping and whatever So it is ironic
@Captain_Bobvious
@Captain_Bobvious 2 года назад
Seeing gluto's reaction to leo saying "I can spam nair more!" Is priceless
@eyyy2271
@eyyy2271 2 года назад
4:46 lmao
@RedMooseJesus
@RedMooseJesus 2 года назад
Yes!! I was thinking the exact same thing
@phtm_151
@phtm_151 2 года назад
I think Gluto was already doing that tech with Wario nair, he doesn't seems really surprised
@illusionaryheart3325
@illusionaryheart3325 2 года назад
Honestly, even if it isn’t as impactful as wavedashing from melee, this looks like it’ll provide some insane options for Ultimate!
@peter42466
@peter42466 2 года назад
I mean it won’t be as impactful as wavedashing but it could very well be put into the new smash but with melee physics mods and be a very cool feature
@IAm-zo1bo
@IAm-zo1bo 2 года назад
@@peter42466 you say that as if we're certain about a new smash game
@ClimbingKeen
@ClimbingKeen 2 года назад
Ultimate players won’t even use this. You guys don’t use new tech lol
@Deadflower20xx
@Deadflower20xx 2 года назад
@@IAm-zo1bo Stupid to think there won't be lol. Sakurai said he was done after Brawl btw. Here we are at Smash 5... Plus, Nintendo as a corporation owns Smash. Ultimate is literally the highest selling fighting game of all time. They're making a new one with or without Sakurai, it's not up to him.
@illusionaryheart3325
@illusionaryheart3325 2 года назад
@@ClimbingKeen Already seen people using it…
@SMOG8
@SMOG8 2 года назад
I would like to see someone do a video on what slingshot means to each character. Something like that would give people more insight to how good this is and I won’t have to figure it out myself.
@terpsidance.
@terpsidance. 2 года назад
There's at least one pro or semi-pro for every character and I imagine all of them are gonna do their own video on this.
@jam4986
@jam4986 2 года назад
this was fucking sick. gimr was not exaggerating at all when he said it’s meta changing. absolutely legendary
@reidgarcelon9746
@reidgarcelon9746 2 года назад
@Sauce I feel like gimr did a really good job expanding on it though, and obviously it impressed the pros so at least some of it is new
@arturintete2461
@arturintete2461 2 года назад
@Sauce POV: rando NPCS think they know more than people who dedicate their lives to this game
@grah55
@grah55 2 года назад
@Sauce I saw this so long ago and I don't even play Ultimate.
@ayoraster2970
@ayoraster2970 2 года назад
@Sauce While many of the details might have been known, the applications shown in this video are entirely new. There's a reason pros never did movement that looked like that before now.
@_nicenick
@_nicenick 2 года назад
@Sauce Don't worry dude ur completely right. Nothing about this is meta changing. These noob viewers get overhyped cuz of Gimr's exaggerated presentation style, and will get mad at anyone who tries to undercut it. Once they actually try it out in matches, they'll see very little change in gameplay and results.
@neki_7258
@neki_7258 2 года назад
In the trailer, at 1:53 he does the tech in real life, at 1:11 he uses slingshot on a shield because it is a tech mainly experimented on shield pressure
@freshplayz2709
@freshplayz2709 2 года назад
THATS SO SMART
@allen2reckless676
@allen2reckless676 2 года назад
Omg u right wtf
@allen2reckless676
@allen2reckless676 2 года назад
And the poster with the black circle is the shield bubble. Well supposedly representing the shield bubble and when he rips it up thats how u know it will be good shield pressure
@allen2reckless676
@allen2reckless676 2 года назад
His leg tho rip foot
@iofiwifi
@iofiwifi 2 года назад
@@allen2reckless676 it represents the footstool vfx for phantom footstooling
@Goat-on-a-Stick
@Goat-on-a-Stick 2 года назад
This is crazy! It's impressive you've found something this game changing so late into the game's life!
@laserbeamlightning
@laserbeamlightning 2 года назад
Late? There's not going to be anything else for a while so this'll apply for years!
@stinkyballsmeller
@stinkyballsmeller 2 года назад
This game came out only four years ago, for a mainstream fighter with lots of attention I wouldn't consider it "late" into it's lifespan lol
@silvesta5027
@silvesta5027 2 года назад
Just think about melee’s progression 😵‍💫 That was years and years in…although I guess the circumstances are different, considering how deep the mechanics are in that game
@jojivlogs_4255
@jojivlogs_4255 2 года назад
@@stinkyballsmeller considering most fighting games have a 5 year competitive lifespan it kinda is
@jojivlogs_4255
@jojivlogs_4255 2 года назад
@@silvesta5027 the most similar mechanic melee has to the slingshot is wavedashing, and sakurai figured that out during development. the community figured it out like 2 months after release. a lot of the fundamental melee tech was discovered quite early on
@infinityheart_tm9270
@infinityheart_tm9270 2 года назад
Is it just some rule that whenever there’s a movement tech in a smash game, Lucas is just really really good with it.
@BREADSWORD
@BREADSWORD 2 года назад
bro really changed the whole game
@rad6946.
@rad6946. 2 года назад
fr
@_nicenick
@_nicenick 2 года назад
right now try it out online and see how much has really changed
@BIGAMBERFAN
@BIGAMBERFAN 2 года назад
@@_nicenick of course it’s not gonna change the game online doofus
@jonashworth9757
@jonashworth9757 2 года назад
@@BIGAMBERFAN Well, I won’t be able to utilize this. So I know my friends won’t be able to. No way this changes anything for us.
@gj4312
@gj4312 2 года назад
@@BIGAMBERFAN it looks easy so yeah I think it will be done online. If you think this is too much for online then you must not know what it's like to play some characters online. Some already have to do stuff way harder than this online.
@SnessFresh
@SnessFresh 2 года назад
The best part is this tech is easy to do. It took me 2 seconds to get it semi consistent. Im honestly shocked this wasnt discovered before.
@Substantial-hf1rm
@Substantial-hf1rm 2 года назад
Inb4 lil Timmy pulls up saying he's been doing this since day one.
@kevinhirschowitz8550
@kevinhirschowitz8550 2 года назад
it probs was found b4, but gimr pushed it and popularized fs, gimzdashing
@harryvpn1462
@harryvpn1462 2 года назад
Some pleople say they already knew about this, so theres a possible chance this was some under hidden discord tech
@nicolasepicness937
@nicolasepicness937 2 года назад
Lavish tweeted he's been doing it since 2018 with proof lol
@kenmu_
@kenmu_ 2 года назад
Glutonny tweeted hes been doing the tech too
@migweegwee2824
@migweegwee2824 2 года назад
This tech is something that makes me really want to get back to labbing characters again. This time it'll be through a new lens of potential. Certain characters with bad spacing or OOS options could benefit immensely with this. Thank you for sharing this, you deserve a good rest and cake.
@Gold0rion
@Gold0rion 2 года назад
Just been trying out the slingshot some in the training room after rewatching this for about the fourth time now and I just wanna say thank you for all the effort you put into discovering this tech and the amount of work you did for this video presentation too. I'm sure I'm not the only one, but thank you immensely for being a wonderful part of the smash community GimR
@farlaff
@farlaff 2 года назад
How would this work with a Pro Controller? Is it even possible to use this effectively without the GC con? (I actually just asked this in MKLeo's channel moments ago lol, so hope somebody can help on that.)
@yannickjanssen4307
@yannickjanssen4307 2 года назад
So Marth might be kinda scary now, he has a good fast spacing option
@brezilianpope
@brezilianpope 2 года назад
The potential is real
@Tonjit41
@Tonjit41 2 года назад
Eh... it's marth
@allen2reckless676
@allen2reckless676 2 года назад
Lmao no more slow side b movement lets go
@tumultoustortellini
@tumultoustortellini 2 года назад
absolutely. You can pester people with a consistently tipper fair, nair or bair now and faster speeds than ever before. I think holdshot tomohawk also could make marcina in general a lot scarier
@Spyder-Marth
@Spyder-Marth 2 года назад
MARTH SLINGSHOT NAIR INTO STUTTER STEP F-SMASH HAHAHAHA
@Dragoon803
@Dragoon803 2 года назад
I can't wait to see Fatallity and Larry Lur get a hold of this.
@gottabepablo
@gottabepablo 2 года назад
And Sean
@brezilianpope
@brezilianpope 2 года назад
Daddy fatalityyyy Imagine the best falcon mastering the flickshot
@jackturner691
@jackturner691 2 года назад
Tweek's Diddy pressure gonna be insane
@brezilianpope
@brezilianpope 2 года назад
@@jackturner691 This combined with the banana is gonna be crazy
@facepalm6315
@facepalm6315 2 года назад
Larry with this tech… whoa
@redpandaplush5980
@redpandaplush5980 2 года назад
Every character showcased I thought "that's terrifying." And I'm sure many more not shown will be too. Well done!
@wyattalexander4041
@wyattalexander4041 2 года назад
I’m so impressed with this whole out of content… I can see how much time you spent on this. And the special announcement at the end I’m so excited for this all sounds so awesome I’m hype !!!
@KakinTseGamePlayer
@KakinTseGamePlayer 2 года назад
Everyone: Sling Shot Ridley: Run Up Dthrow Usmash
@adanmota8340
@adanmota8340 2 года назад
Yes
@michaelcross7665
@michaelcross7665 2 года назад
I got real confused and had to rewatch what happened cuz I wasn't expecting that. If that is somehow consistent enough you can land it at kill% then it's huge for ridley, but I kinda doubt it in which chase dthrow to fair is probably still the better option
@KakinTseGamePlayer
@KakinTseGamePlayer 2 года назад
@@michaelcross7665 im pretty sure that only works at 0% but not kill percent. It seems unoptimal unless it does more damage than fair but I dont play ridley so I wouldnt know
@michaelcross7665
@michaelcross7665 2 года назад
Yeah I didn't watch the video far enough he even says later that it probably doesn't even matter haha
@enviableace9987
@enviableace9987 2 года назад
Hope this mean people will practice slingshots instead wavelands now in between stocks
@happypotter9413
@happypotter9413 2 года назад
lmao
@konflicted1729
@konflicted1729 2 года назад
Yoooo lol
@theoblooky7864
@theoblooky7864 2 года назад
Why am I feeling called out ?
@brain_tonic
@brain_tonic 2 года назад
This will revolutionize the Squad Strike meta. Pog
@bionicallyacomputer292
@bionicallyacomputer292 2 года назад
LMFAOO
@Turbopasta
@Turbopasta 2 года назад
I'm so thankful for how in-depth this guide/discovery is, this video really needs to be the go-to template for anything tech related in smash. Even when looking for basic stuff like how to do a rar, it can be hard to know why you screwed it up, or why a certain input is coming out. I can tell you worked your ass off to make this as comprehensive as possible and I just want to thank you for your efforts. Most people don't know this, but I was actually the person who discovered the pac-man doubles infinite ladder strategy in Smash 4 (the video is on my channel for anyone curious), I remember feeling amazing when people payed attention to the discovery and started telling people about it. Etika (RIP) even shared my video with people and it caught on like wildfire after that. Word spread quickly, and before long I was meeting people locally who played Smash who knew about this tech and they were surprised to learn that I was the one who made it. Very cool feeling, I'm glad I was able to contribute to Smash in some small way. Looking forward to seeing this out in the wild, thanks for the tech and for the content.
@awaspow
@awaspow 2 года назад
16 ON TRENDING CONGRATS GIMR ONE OF THE BIGGEST SMASH VIDEOS UR DOING SO WELL SO HAPPY FOR YOU
@zooker7938
@zooker7938 2 года назад
I love how this tech is difficult but not so difficult that it's not an option for most people. I've already managed a few flickshots in training mode with Isabelle. Slingshot slingshots?
@KettuKakku
@KettuKakku 2 года назад
i'm so hyped for slingshot slingshots
@WillStrong7
@WillStrong7 2 года назад
Villy and Isabelle don't have super safe aerials to begin with, so I don't think it will be as good for them in terms of shield pressure, but it would be great in neutral to mix up slingshot timings
@KettuKakku
@KettuKakku 2 года назад
@@WillStrong7 mostly for neutral, yeah
@iBMcFly
@iBMcFly 2 года назад
“Tech” = four year old controls…😂😂
@TheKitKatThe
@TheKitKatThe 2 года назад
@@iBMcFly how often did you use this before this video?
@GawainSSB
@GawainSSB 2 года назад
This sounds really promising for dealing with Falcons horrendous backdash. Cant wait to try this out
@aaronhaynes8278
@aaronhaynes8278 2 года назад
Thinking the same thing. Can't wait to see what fatality and other falcons come up with this.
@NonJohns
@NonJohns 2 года назад
Gawain! So glad you're still around Love your content
@enviableace9987
@enviableace9987 2 года назад
Thought the same
@sareaper69
@sareaper69 2 года назад
I am glad you are alive
@Mekwek
@Mekwek 2 года назад
Oh no
@Super_Smash_Dude
@Super_Smash_Dude 2 года назад
This is pretty interesting stuff! I look forward to seeing how characters in general make use of this new tech!
@TigerKwan
@TigerKwan 2 года назад
I love this kind of stuff. As someone who took a break from smash due to school seeing people learn about phantom footstools, IDJ, and now this honestly makes me wanna return to the game and lab it out.
@1up2275
@1up2275 2 года назад
Lemme just say that I'm a longtime Lucas main and when I heard him say that Lucas had some of the most versatile uses of this tech... 😩😩😩
@johnfahey8590
@johnfahey8590 2 года назад
BRO IK SAME. When i saw him fair shield slingshot and then djc zair 🥴🥴😩
@dlan1130
@dlan1130 2 года назад
Same here! It’s a great day to be a Lucas main.
@iminumst7827
@iminumst7827 2 года назад
same, i quit smash but I might come back if Lucas getting some fresh to tech
@quinnthomas1007
@quinnthomas1007 2 года назад
@@iminumst7827 same
@goahdejen6176
@goahdejen6176 2 года назад
bro rope snake is now unpunishable oh my god u could outspace like 70% of the cast
@Luigikid
@Luigikid 2 года назад
Thanks to your lovely mother for giving birth to a legend ❤️
@FZone96Official
@FZone96Official 2 года назад
I never heard of GimR until now but he seems awesome.
@wrath5420
@wrath5420 2 года назад
@@FZone96Official he totally is, he is possibly the man who created the most smash ultimate tech of any person
@MewcePewpz
@MewcePewpz 2 года назад
super fascinating, thanks for all your work over these years. Smash is such a great community to be a part of!
@ChessBoardBNB
@ChessBoardBNB 2 года назад
Very well put together. I'm looking forward to start implementing this :) Also very excited to watch the Gimvitational next month
@illegalmemedealer3549
@illegalmemedealer3549 2 года назад
And if everyone’s safe on shield… *laughs* No one will be.
@allen2reckless676
@allen2reckless676 2 года назад
Idk about this one cuz cap gamon lucina and anyone with up b out of shield that moves sideways and comes out really fast but then they are open maybe idk
@thelittlestseal
@thelittlestseal 2 года назад
@@allen2reckless676 there's a reason he mostly showed it with shield grab and not gnw up b I think
@allen2reckless676
@allen2reckless676 2 года назад
@@thelittlestseal well yeah im just saying its punishable with out of shield up b. Especially with those that got horizontal movement with up b
@sachaboudoux8046
@sachaboudoux8046 2 года назад
That is an *Incredible* Reference too 😎
@illegalmemedealer3549
@illegalmemedealer3549 2 года назад
@@allen2reckless676 they need a lot of sideways movement, and it looks like the attacker still has options for stuffing out that punish depending on who it is, so while up b out of shield may still be good, it’s only good on far less characters now. For instance, Cloud up-b suffers massively, as may the oppressive GnW up-b, but the likes of Bowser are likely less affected
@m_arto
@m_arto 2 года назад
I want to see Ice Climbers twitter combos implementing these. Like, holdshot with down b seems legit broken. You just pushed back the IC's mains 12 years into reaching 25% of perfection
@andersolson44
@andersolson44 2 года назад
ICs are super affected by this, now that I think about it, bc their max air drift is good, but the time it takes for them to get up there is slow, AND they’ve got their desyncs for another layer for them.
@Succer
@Succer 2 года назад
Oh god I think you might be right. It could probably extend desync combos by letting you follow up farther away.
@Braillionaire
@Braillionaire 2 года назад
Amazing bro... The tech, the vid and the announcement. Simply amazing. You are a blessing and a gift to the community man. Thanks to you and your team for all that you do!
@ChaosSolak
@ChaosSolak 2 года назад
Hope you're feeling better, thank you for your time and effort consistently delivering quality techs. Far more consistently than me actually pulling those techs... except get-up attack. I'm a master at that.
@djdrizzy9139
@djdrizzy9139 2 года назад
Can't wait to see how Kirby can use this tech. I'm surprised that Mythra wasn't shown.
@sensey181
@sensey181 2 года назад
KIRBYYYYY
@Juggleboy
@Juggleboy 2 года назад
👀
@sensey181
@sensey181 2 года назад
@@Juggleboy Can't wait to see what you will provide us regarding this tech
@konflicted1729
@konflicted1729 2 года назад
@@Juggleboy hey I'm sub to you we need a new video
@PMT433
@PMT433 2 года назад
Ikr
@LuigiLonLon
@LuigiLonLon 2 года назад
4:46 You can see the exact frame where Glutto is processing what Leo said and realizing the meaning of it
@Patatatrash
@Patatatrash 2 года назад
so funny XDD
@eMocHild551
@eMocHild551 2 года назад
It's great to see you still shaking it up man, thanks for breaking the meta
@rhojak7798
@rhojak7798 2 года назад
Thank you for learning these tech options and teaching them to others that don't know them!
@lukelacher1802
@lukelacher1802 2 года назад
Can we all just appreciate the animators who worked on the Gimvitational announcement at the end
@brezilianpope
@brezilianpope 2 года назад
I'd be curious to see a Marth using this to space the tippers
@WhoIsRah
@WhoIsRah 2 года назад
yep i think this is going to bring marth up to proper placement. i just need to see what he can do
@hugodecroix294
@hugodecroix294 2 года назад
Leo about to bring him back
@THGnat
@THGnat 2 года назад
There is a small video of leo trying it somewhere.
@brezilianpope
@brezilianpope 2 года назад
@@THGnat yes I saw it, nothing too crazy for now but im a believer
@Gabio
@Gabio 2 года назад
It was predictable but obvious, the slingshot wasn't going to really change the meta. It's just one of those techs, even if tis one is more complex and useful. The lab can create and elaborate things for the world. But not change the world. This is the same thing for the slingshot.
@sneekypops
@sneekypops Год назад
But if you replace/add different planks and decorations to the ship is it the same ship, etc.
@JonRobTom
@JonRobTom 2 года назад
I could imagine how many new movement options and combos are gonna be when Instant Double Jump is applied with the Slingshot variants.
@PlayMeARecord
@PlayMeARecord 2 года назад
Respect to Gmir for he always looks for new ways to help us in the game. The slingshot makes that can help us get closer to melee in terms of movements. Much love man
@Escobamos
@Escobamos 2 года назад
(Thick Russian Accent) "I love Gmir. He is my favorite player."
@PlayMeARecord
@PlayMeARecord 2 года назад
@@Escobamos (Jersey Accent) Agreed
@puru7976
@puru7976 2 года назад
you ultimate SCRUBS will never approach the GREATNESS of melee
@raphaelrose3001
@raphaelrose3001 2 года назад
@@puru7976 stink
@sondheimravel
@sondheimravel 2 года назад
How is making ultimate closer to melee good for anyone but melee players
@awxii_
@awxii_ 2 года назад
Does this mean Pikachu's aerials are +100 on shield now?
@Daylen151
@Daylen151 2 года назад
oh uh
@iamawin8272
@iamawin8272 2 года назад
broken characters will become more broken but all the other characters will become better as well so it probably won’t change the tierlist too much other than a few outliers.
@sebastian11037
@sebastian11037 2 года назад
@@iamawin8272 Rob cant do it lol
@ABC-ik9vj
@ABC-ik9vj 2 года назад
@@iamawin8272 there's not a broken character
@stupidw33b52
@stupidw33b52 2 года назад
@@iamawin8272 i disagree, characters with great air speed/drift specifically will move up more than the rest
@XKazoolax
@XKazoolax 2 года назад
Loving it gimr this might get me back into ultimate again to learn something new and interesting to use
@extustential
@extustential 2 года назад
This video got me picking up the sticks once again. Thank you for makin the game what it is gimr you the goat! Can't wait to pull this one out on my friends.
@gintuner4371
@gintuner4371 2 года назад
My condolences GimR. It must be one of the hardest things to go through.
@gjgaming2133
@gjgaming2133 2 года назад
May she rest in peace. Shed be proud man
@ghastlygrimmm1528
@ghastlygrimmm1528 2 года назад
This is honestly really cool. I wasn't expecting a movement tech, which is what ult really needed.
@Bacchus325
@Bacchus325 2 года назад
GimR yet again changing the world of Smash forever. Thanks for all the hard work you put in for us every day!
@Dr.D.R.
@Dr.D.R. 2 года назад
May Gloria Rest in Peace.
@doctordice2doctordice210
@doctordice2doctordice210 2 года назад
Im as hyped about this as i am skeptical. I hope your mom is resting in peace bro, your love of this game is so blatantly shown here and I genuinely thank you ♥️
@gamerboidaoneguy7693
@gamerboidaoneguy7693 2 года назад
Wow the presentation for the tournament was so good great job on That!
@hectogrim5557
@hectogrim5557 2 года назад
High Quality Content right here my man, keep it up and let’s go!!
@haruwolf2600
@haruwolf2600 2 года назад
The movement inputs is something that needed to do Displacement Phantom with Zelda, but much less lenient to do, certainly it's an awesome thing!
@allen2reckless676
@allen2reckless676 2 года назад
Wait does it work. Will we finally have phantom knoght infront of zelda facing forward
@AricinGrey
@AricinGrey 2 года назад
I tried learning how to do that phantom displace for so long, I never fully got it. But this definitely feels similar to that concept, just a little easier.
@Jackaljkljkl
@Jackaljkljkl 2 года назад
@@AricinGrey That tech defeated me too. I notice that a lot if top Zelda players don't even use it.
@AricinGrey
@AricinGrey 2 года назад
@@Jackaljkljkl it seems good, but unless you can do it consistently I don't see getting much use out of it.
@Eman02kG
@Eman02kG 2 года назад
9:37 Basic inputs 11:04 Flickshot 13:29 Holdshot 14:15 Fullshot
@PotentialThall
@PotentialThall 2 года назад
Spam this mans likes up 👆
@kisameh420
@kisameh420 2 года назад
goated
@ashtoncooper5478
@ashtoncooper5478 2 года назад
Thanks!
@Greennoob2
@Greennoob2 2 года назад
this is huge at helping me play the way I've always wanted to. Thank you GimR
@reesegraham3743
@reesegraham3743 2 года назад
Watching this at work on break and mad I can't finish it until later. Excited to try this stuff out!
@dangangalaxy9759
@dangangalaxy9759 2 года назад
THIS IS GONNA MAKE HITTING JOKER’S FAIR 1 KILL CONFIRM SO MUCH EASIER TO HIT IN NEUTRAL THANK YOU SO MUCH
@dygo-
@dygo- 2 года назад
my exact thought
@33Pokenerd
@33Pokenerd 2 года назад
this is gonna make roy jab bair with full hop so much easier too lmao
@dangangalaxy9759
@dangangalaxy9759 2 года назад
@@33Pokenerd This is genuinely the best tech I could have asked for, instant bairs just in general are so freaking hard for me but they're the #1 thing I wish I could do consistently that I just haven't been able to. This really does change the game
@TsukumoYatsuhashi
@TsukumoYatsuhashi 2 года назад
Pit's aerials were never very safe, so I hope this is huge for him.
@ABC-ik9vj
@ABC-ik9vj 2 года назад
Pit air speed is trash
@dmitrimatthews7898
@dmitrimatthews7898 2 года назад
@@ABC-ik9vj Yeah, but so is Ganondorf’s and as you could see, it seemed to benefit him.
@mphmiles
@mphmiles 2 года назад
His nair is -6, Fair -9 with the range it has, dair is -8, bair is -3. They're pretty good.
@TsukumoYatsuhashi
@TsukumoYatsuhashi 2 года назад
But I suppose this would help his landing lag, which was what I was thinking of? There's 8-14 frickin frames of l. lag on each aerial.
@brain_tonic
@brain_tonic 2 года назад
@@ABC-ik9vj Well he can still use it for like a [bair -> slingshot -> arrow] which doesn't care about his air speed.
@shaebotha4023
@shaebotha4023 2 года назад
I have never seen one of your videos, but this earns my subscription
@Zm4rf
@Zm4rf 2 года назад
great video I wish inputs were shown for more of the demonstrations, especially with the more complicated options described towards the end of the video
@Xmark3000
@Xmark3000 2 года назад
Just from the first 30 seconds of the video I had to give a like. VGBC Mom did a great job of raising you y'all to be kind people, rest in peace.
@RiposteBK
@RiposteBK 2 года назад
I imagine Yoshi will get a tonne of mileage out of this, between egg throw/lay and neutrals... and if he messes up, he double jumps away for free cant wait for *multi-fair drifting*
@TheLastMelon92
@TheLastMelon92 2 года назад
I used to do a similar movement with yoshi in smash 4 with fair.
@iggelitoGamingHD
@iggelitoGamingHD 2 года назад
More than anything as someone who mainly just plays and watch melee this makes ultimate look much more fun! :)
@SunTsunami
@SunTsunami 2 года назад
I know you broke the meta but that intro is super crisp my guy!! Excellent cinematography
@bowmain1577
@bowmain1577 2 года назад
Might be the biggest tech discovery since Wavedashing! Just gotta hope it never gets patched out!
@deester7914
@deester7914 2 года назад
it probably wont since ultimate is done with patches
@QwertYuiop-yt3uh
@QwertYuiop-yt3uh 2 года назад
Even if ultimate wasn't done with patches, this wouldn't make sense to get patched out. It's not some infinite nor is it a glitch that negatively affects the game. It's fundamentally quite simple and really just provides a great movement option by combining basic mechanics together
@llunadere1868
@llunadere1868 2 года назад
Patching this out would mean they’d have to change the way the game works fundamentally and they aren’t gonna do that
@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia
@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia 2 года назад
Patches have been done for a long time now
@stego-
@stego- 2 года назад
*and phantom footstooling
@Daylen151
@Daylen151 2 года назад
sakurai pops in tomorrow: "yea this was intentional. not a bug it's a feature"
@chrisbeach423
@chrisbeach423 2 года назад
wavedash was intentional though lol some kids wrote about it in like 2003 and he confirmed it, or so he says 🤔
@Daylen151
@Daylen151 2 года назад
@@chrisbeach423 yea so he says. some people discover some weird tech (not just talking about wavedashing. same goes for stuff like L cancelling) and sakurai just pops in an claims it to be a feature. riddle me this batman if it's a feature why was it nowhere mentioned or kept in newer titles? they did realize it in development but didn't bother removing it and just forgot about it. it wasn't intentional.
@funnygamer.692
@funnygamer.692 2 года назад
@@Daylen151 it's not exactly intentional. Sakurai and his team found out about it while in development. It's more like a consequence of melee's physics more than anything. As for L cancelling, it's a feature originated from smash 64 probably meant to help players land into shield after an aerial easier. Hope this helps👍
@awkwardess
@awkwardess 2 года назад
ya literally no
@bobyjoetown
@bobyjoetown 2 года назад
19:35 really put into perspective how much crazier this is than I thought
@Doobie_AdamsSSB
@Doobie_AdamsSSB 2 года назад
Just commenting to show appreciation for the hustle!! This is nuts man!!
@myleg7012
@myleg7012 2 года назад
Only GimR can find out how to wavedash in the air
@ReplayThatShit
@ReplayThatShit 2 года назад
Rest in paradise VGBCMom 🙏
@noodle_monkey5012
@noodle_monkey5012 2 года назад
Amazing discovery, perfect analysis, and an incredible video overall
@verytallowl2022
@verytallowl2022 2 года назад
That introduction was fucking incredible. Well shot, creative, the works
@radiaz121
@radiaz121 2 года назад
I've never seen anything like this. The way the characters move is so interesting and could definitely be game changing
@allen2reckless676
@allen2reckless676 2 года назад
Its the equivalent to wave dashing in melee in all honesty just instead of landing its the opposite lmao. Which holds true that this game is the opposite of melee
@lesjumeauxsoudesnsl1357
@lesjumeauxsoudesnsl1357 2 года назад
Omg the potential of peach with this tech is insane
@logandunlap9156
@logandunlap9156 2 года назад
grounded hover can already do this though, no?
@fryenchill2817
@fryenchill2817 2 года назад
@@logandunlap9156 Yeah, but now it is way more consistent, which means you'll actually see peach mains pull it off in bracket
@Tonjit41
@Tonjit41 2 года назад
Peach is ultimate's melee fox imo
@ltsJoeMama
@ltsJoeMama 2 года назад
@@Tonjit41 lol no
@lukerose4166
@lukerose4166 2 года назад
@@Tonjit41 Peach is ultimates melee peach. They play pretty similar all things considered
@phxhero
@phxhero 2 года назад
This looks like an adapted smash version of sfv shimmy with corner pressure slowly becoming the meta this will be dirty
@Zadamanim
@Zadamanim 2 года назад
Respect for sticking with this game despite the lack of playable online, high input delay even when playing offline, the ceaseless discharge of community drama, and the actively destructive efforts of Nintendo themselves. I know that probably sounds sarcastic but I'm genuinely impressed by the people still grinding this game out to find the crazy tech.
@Super_Smash_Dude
@Super_Smash_Dude 2 года назад
Why did EE have to cheat...
@Deathranger999
@Deathranger999 2 года назад
Wait what happened to Ultimate online? I haven’t played in many months.
@Zadamanim
@Zadamanim 2 года назад
@@Deathranger999 It's always been very laggy, stuttery, high input delay. Most people in the competitive scene find it basically unplayable, and during Covid when the competitive scene couldn't meet up in person to play the game, many of them just stopped playing altogether. Some players are returning now that they can play in person again.
@Zadamanim
@Zadamanim 2 года назад
@@Deathranger999 To give you an idea of how big the drop off of competitive players is, EVO2019 had 3492 SSBU contestants. This year, only 388 SSBU contestants. That means almost 90% of the hardcore community quit the game because it has been basically unplayable for them for the last ~3 years.
@Deathranger999
@Deathranger999 2 года назад
@@Zadamanim Wow, yikes. That really sucks.
@ny9443
@ny9443 2 года назад
As an inkling main, I can see approaching/pressuring someone with back air so much more consistent. Ty gimr
@feltonthecat475
@feltonthecat475 2 года назад
Heck yeah, I think Inkling could benefit massively from this!
@ashtoncooper5478
@ashtoncooper5478 2 года назад
@@feltonthecat475 yeah!
@Cygis
@Cygis 2 года назад
I’m surprised you didn’t show Yoshi since he has the fastest air speed. It’ll be very cool to see the fastest slingshot
@Tonjit41
@Tonjit41 2 года назад
Ewwwwww!
@allen2reckless676
@allen2reckless676 2 года назад
Oop was a mistake announcing your a yoshi player. Honestly tho cant wait to see what ill have to deal with against yoshi players
@SydneySininen
@SydneySininen 2 года назад
Oh my god that's gonna be horrifying
@lududelubin3011
@lududelubin3011 2 года назад
Don't forget Limit Cloud, Hero w/ Acceleratle active or Speed Art Shulk
@thingamagiga2
@thingamagiga2 2 года назад
@@lududelubin3011 oh yeah can't wait to be limit slingshot back air ledgetrapped by cloud. Jeeze
@hypersnake7904
@hypersnake7904 2 года назад
Now we all go back to the lab again
@GrandSyzygy
@GrandSyzygy 2 года назад
As a Zelda main, I'm glad all of that time practicing Displaced Phantom will make adopting this tech easier and thanks for the insight on the buffering which will make doing DP even easier! Thank you for pushing the game to the next level! 🙌🏼 GOATED
@Andrew-lg9uf
@Andrew-lg9uf 2 года назад
Mewtwo might actually just be broken. It feels so cool to do
@brain_tonic
@brain_tonic 2 года назад
Yeah he's probably the biggest beneficiary.
@allen2reckless676
@allen2reckless676 2 года назад
No more tail hurtbox lets go
@darthdistortion1934
@darthdistortion1934 2 года назад
If there's no dashback animation for even a frame his tail hurtbox extension issue is saved
@sugggggon
@sugggggon 2 года назад
I have been doing this on mewtwo to hide his tail for more than a year... very disappointed that this is nothing new. Spoiler, m2 still sucks even with this tech. The problem is that you have to commit to a jump to save his tail, and then you're fucked
@darthdistortion1934
@darthdistortion1934 2 года назад
@@sugggggon No, you get full airdrift back with Mewtwo's insane air speed without his bogged air acceleration; being in that air state puts him in a relatively good position. Chances are you've just been doing regular air pressure which is why you keep getting hit The entire point of the tech is to reenter or engage in an airstate without: - turnaround animation - air acceleration startup You can do the first with a regular jump which is what I assume you're doing, but the fact that you're getting hit when you have a -3 aerial and top 3 airspeed implies you weren't doing slingshotting at all
@quasiZote
@quasiZote 2 года назад
Imagine doing miss-inputs while training RAR and wondering why your character moves so strangely... Watching a video a few years later just to get the explanation for it LMAO
@Phantom8888888888888
@Phantom8888888888888 2 года назад
I’m 2:30 into this video and I already love the video. Great intro gimr
@patrickburke2187
@patrickburke2187 2 года назад
This is crazy for Lucario. Crazy air speed, pair’ed with wavebounce neutral b, and a fair that can be thrown out twice from shorthop. Hopefully people make something out of it
@lowtech42
@lowtech42 2 года назад
Aww 🥺 RIP M(r)s. Petrucci!! 🙏🏿 You did great work with this technique
@Rizzy_K
@Rizzy_K 2 года назад
What’s the (r) mean?
@lowtech42
@lowtech42 2 года назад
@@Rizzy_K I put it because I didn't know if she was Mrs or Ms and didn't want to be disrespectful!
@Rizzy_K
@Rizzy_K 2 года назад
@@lowtech42 ohh okay makes sense
@angrynoodle161
@angrynoodle161 2 года назад
I’m wondering about the implications of this in terms of shield breaks. Is it feasible for a puff to get 2 pounds on shield without being punished? Idk this feels meta changing.
@cise3895
@cise3895 2 года назад
Stopped playing ult a while ago, so take this with a grain of salt. This tech is all about aerial momentum, but pound kills or severely slows your momentum when you use it, so it probably doesn’t directly benefit from this. Instead, everyone (including Puff) will be much better at shrinking shields with their aerials, which could open up the threat of breaking the weakened shield with just one pound.
@angrynoodle161
@angrynoodle161 2 года назад
@@cise3895 Right. That makes more sense. As well as just being a movement option in neutral.
@soulvynthis334
@soulvynthis334 2 года назад
Puff can get up tilt into pound for a shield break with this
@angrynoodle161
@angrynoodle161 2 года назад
@@soulvynthis334 I just saw that video!! I feel validated now lol.
@Professor_Wisteria_
@Professor_Wisteria_ 2 года назад
No, but puff has always just barely been able to do u-tilt into pound and that breaks, so with slingshots puff can DEFINITELY punish oos with pounds that will be near unpunishable
@JoshSaysStuff
@JoshSaysStuff 2 года назад
So THIS is what I was doing! I had done this tech by mistake in the past and tried to replicate it, but I could never figure out the correct motion. I’ve been labbing it and have only pulled off a couple slingshots successfully, but this guide is a massive help! I guess it’s back to training for me. Thank you GimR!
@Pysnpai
@Pysnpai 2 года назад
Sorry for your loss, dude. May you mother Rest In Peace. Thanks for the tech
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