@@kennethken8974 ad hominen proves nothing other than your desperation. There are vegans of all types, shapes and sizes. And I bet there are endless vegans that look better, stronger and healthier than you.
I am new to plant based diet. First gave up red meat, then poultry followed by dairy and eggs. Don’t miss anything. Eating beans everyday which I never did before and I love them! Eating lots of dark greens and a small amount of berries every morning. My cholesterol was 275 will test in February and hopefully see better results!
@@VeganLinked Wow.... Congrats to u indeed!! Vegan diet is super healthy n makes life much happy n spend less on junk food n medical bills !!! All big n small animals hv feelings too. God bless everyone n all animals l love much 🐾🐾🐾🐾♥️♥️♥️
Well done , you have made the best decision. Some people follow and wake up one morning with chest pains out of the blue , that won’t be you . Congrats.
I follow Dr. Greger on his social media accounts and I have learned so much about eating healthy from him and several other doctors, great information, thank you for the video.
I'm 81 and never had a problem with milk. In fact, I would use milk to settle and occasional upset stomach. That said, Greger has convinced me to stop drinking milk and eating cheese. It has been several months now, and I haven't cheated even once. I don't feel any different, but I have always been healthy. I believe the Dr. so I will stick with it.
Great, perhaps you wouldn't get the occasional upset stomach if you were on a well planned plant exclusive diet. Sometimes the things that make us sick also make us feel better... but you may also be one of the smaller percent that aren't intolerant to lactose...
@@VeganLinked I am a fool blown Vegan. You're right though, I don't have a problem with lactose. I stopped after reading animal based protein can also be a problem. thanks
@Betty Amber My digestion is fine. Haven't seen a doctor since 1986. I had to cut down on my protein. I have read several articles that would substantiate needing more protein as we get older. I always get a sore lower back if I have too much protein. After experimenting several times on myself, I was able to eliminate the problem by eating very little protein for just one day. The problem turned out to be my kidneys. I'm convinced we eat way too much protein. I do fine with 60 to 70 gms a day. As a lifelong athlete I used to eat 125 gms a day or more. My kidneys can't handle that much at my age. Also drink a lot of water.
Agreed. As far as I know I also have never had a dairy issue either. Really believed the more dairy the better. It did freak me out realizing the addiction factor of cheese was quite real to me. After a few years of being a healthy lifestyle Vegan I still find that cheese occasionally pops into my head when I want a snack but never the meats. Feeling great keeps us on track.
Im norway the dietary health guidelunes recwntly released tells people to eat read meat once a week at most, and never eat hyoerprocessed, and that alcohol is bad, full stop. What a great leap forward
In March I will have been on plant based food for 3 years, Thank Good i reverse my very bad condicion psoritic poliarhtritis!!! Without medicine, only nutrition and exersize!!! Im so happy, i enjoy my life!!! My wifi, my 2 children too eat plant based for abaut 2 years. Now i read dr. Greger book How not to die (Lithuanian language version). I love plant based food, and i love my life!!!
I am now a 5year fighter/thriver of Ovarian Cancer. Just last week, I was at the hospital and so surprised that the Oncology-Surgeon told me that if I want to live longer, I have to start Vegan,Vegetarian,Plant-Based diet right away. I should have done this long time ago.
Excellent presentation, thank you. Regarding smoking, in the mid 1950s here in the UK it was Professor Richard Doll who announced that smoking caused lung cancer. Shortly after 50 per cent of doctors who smoked gave up. Only 50 per cent? Of doctors! Bad habits are clearly hard to break so people need all the help that they can get.
My reading of articles about nutrition shows that there are upsides and downsides of different diets. Vegans have less heart disease but break bones twice as often. No diet encourages glazed donuts.
Nothing says we break bones twice is often. Bone density experiments need to control BMI. And if there is any evidence of Increased incident of bone fractures then controlling for activity level is important too. For example I am far more active than most of my nonvegan friends So I'm definitely more likely to break a bone in the process.
Great work Dr Gregor ! Thank you for this Informative and fact based evidential report. The worrying aspect though is the corporate people that belied the truth and not only to the public but also to their own family……… since 1977…….
The Journal of the American College of Cardiology (JACC) also says "Higher intake of a plant-based diet index rich in healthier plant foods is associated with substantially lower CHD risk"
JACC also says "limiting red meat intake, and controlling hypertension might lower the risk of pulmonary embolism and deep vein thrombosis (DVT)" "Additional dietary strategies to maximize these benefits are required. (Fruits, Vegetables, and Whole Grains" They also say "Mechanistically, intramuscular AT, particularly when resulting from accumulation of saturated fatty acids, which is influenced by dietary intake,7 is a major contributor to reduced insulin sensitivity. Saturated fatty acid-induced insulin resistance in the skeletal muscle appears to be mediated by proinflammatory pathways within the skeletal muscle itself, which can be reversed by monounsaturated fatty acids, like oleic acid,7"
Both have our “preferred” dietary patterns. Since there are many reasons why a patient may choose a particular pattern, would you be comfortable supporting a patient who chose a different dietary pattern as long as their measurements of metabolic health improve? That’s been my approach
I am a conservative who has been on a WFPB diet since Dr. John Mcdougal persuaded me back on the 90’s. I do not call myself a ‘vegan’. Veganism is a political ideology that, among other issues, disapproves of Animal Husbandry and vegans dovetail their lifestyle accordantly. You can claim to be a vegan and eat sugary soda pop and greasy potato chips all day. It has nothing directly to do with health. I respect Dr. Greger’s data driven approach to health and avoiding the political statements to reach as many people with a health centered message.
You're confused. See, vegan and even any based have been high jacked by corporations selling "vegan" or "plant based" products. This has literally nothing to with veganism. Veganism is a philosophy, it is bigger than diet. It is to not exploit animals, to not hurt animals. This includes welfarism that approaches husbandry. This includes human animals and therefore what is healthiest for humans. This is why I became an advocate, because I realized it is healthiest to be vegan. Just as someone can do vegan wrong and unhealthy they can also do WFPB all wrong and unhealthy. WFPB is merely descriptive and not even thorough or precise. I say a whole plant food exclusive diet of legumes, greens, grains, fruits, veggies, mushrooms, nuts, seeds, herbs and spices and a variety of each. And even still that needs further qualification. But whole plant foods are absolutely the most vegan because not only are they healthiest for the human animal, they are the healthiest for all life on the planet because they require the least processing, resources, and highly invasive packaging. The concept of a whole plant food diet was coined 40 years after vegan. WFPB is just helping define how to be vegan, how to best practice the philosophy when talking about food. This is why I have so many wfpb doctors on my channel and started out with that being the goal and premise. Veganism is not a political ideology, it is based on tangible facts and living in line with our values, arguing against it is arguing toward hurting others.
Great talk! I appreciate the discussion on saturated fat and cholesterol but I'd love to see another discussion on the high concentrations of pesticides stored in animal fat (as well as egg yolks, dairy and bone marrow) as that has much less coverage.
Why would you ever get pesticides in animal fat? Pesticides are used to ward pests off plants that you eat. Either the ones the plants make themselves or the synthetic one sprayed all over them!
I came over from the carnivore community. Enjoy getting a balanced veiw. This video didn't change my mind. There is noticeable bias and statistical misrepresentation. For example, there are lactose reduced or free milk products. There is more. However, it would seem by the like to veiw ratio that people already understand.
So why do you prefer to consume body parts, organs and secretions and have animals hurt in the process? Because you can have altered milk to make it more digestible when it's completely unnecessary?
It's odd that you want a balanced view since the plant based doctors and vegans are the only ones showcasing scientific evidence while all the pseudo carnitards have nothing but death on there hands. We won this a long time ago. The only thing you have on your side is dysfunctional momentum.
@Vegan Linked Linked I used the milk as an example to emphasize the one-dimensional and biased views of the video. I've got an open mind. But in order for me to consider changing it. I need more than conjecture and correlation. I clicked on this video because it said "evidence based," even independently looked at some of the evidence presented. Which was, unfortunately, miss represented. Skewed might be more precise. As to why I prefer animal products. After 5 years. I can list both benefits and blood work. Though I understand it's likely difficult to believe. I've done a personal comparison to a plant based. I understand that is N of 1 or personal experience. However, there are thousands, if not more. Similar stories on the carnivore message boards and the like. I think I it's enough that it should at least be studied more in depth. As to hurting animals, I'm very much against factory farming. That being said, animals eat other animals. Humans are animals. Also, they very likely evolved on a mostly carnivorous diet.
@Vegan Linked You seem to think this is a closed matter no longer open for debate. I, however, have seen enough lobbying and shenanigans from both sides to come to the conclusion that the "science" has been influenced. Which makes getting a proper read on the matter difficult. Again, my views are subject to change. There is clear discrepancies in the data. Otherwise, a concise and irrefutable conclusion would be publicly available. Which it is not. Drawing conclusions and entrenching one's self in ideological dogma is one of the pitfalls of the propaganda that exists. Also by "getting a balanced view" I meant that i listen to arguments from both sides and even the middle to see if I've missed something. Gives me interesting topics to look up and read about.
indeed, we're very unique, this literally has zero to do with anything. There's tens, if not hundreds of thousands of edible plants to tailor a unique, individualized vegan diet to one's needs. There's no need to include body parts, organs, and/or secretions because you have access to a wonderful variety of whole plant foods that are nonviolent, sustainable, and healthier.
Surely you don't think everyone is eating a well-planned whole Food plant-based diet. I mean if you go to the grocery store and look in people's carts they are full of processed foods, body parts, organs, and secretions. Plant agriculture delivers 80% global food intake but only 17% of that is whole plant food. People aren't eating this way that's why people are sicker than ever.
@@Scotty_the_carnivore_chaplan I'm not following you are you saying you are consuming a well-planned vegan diet and it's not working or are you saying something else?
@@Scotty_the_carnivore_chaplan are you saying you're on a well-planed vegan diet and it's not working or are you trying to say something else, I'm not following you.
Some people adapt to things better than others. Like some people keep smoking after that first nasty puff, others don't. We can acclimate to all kinds of bad behaviors and try to find good versions of those bad behaviors but none of that makes the behavior logical or necessary or ideal or optimal.
@@underground5220 yeah, smoking is far less insidious since your parents most likely conditioned you to conform and developed you to be desensitized (whether they were aware of it or not) since day one. Yet smoking is still a great analogy because it just shows how easy we can adapt to something that kills us. We have done it for thousands of years even and it still kills us. 7 thousand studies later showing it does and people still do it.
@@underground5220 so, yeah, great comparison because they're both stupid. Only the steak is worse because an animal has to be abused and slaughtered needlessly
I'm 64 years old, I've been vegan for 22 years. I've focused on the whole foods aspect the past 10 years, also do short term intermittent fasting. I exercise regularly, trail run, bike, swim, etc, consider myself athletic. I follow Dr greger religiously. Just had blood work done and was surprised to see that my hdl is only 26, LDL 111, triglycerides 57. Fasting blood sugar is 102. What am I doing wrong?
You probably need to talk to a qualified professional, ideally somebody who practices lifestyle medicine like a dietitian, nutritionist or a physician to hone in on your lifestyle and everything about what you're doing. Also you may want to check your blood again, sometimes labs aren't always reliable.
Basically, I believe that a vegan diet is healthy. But I have a question: what about carnosin? It'sc contained only in meat and seems to be very important for us. Do vegans have to take an appropriate dietary supplement, or is there another way? I would be very happy about your information on this!
This is not an essential nutrient that is required exogenously. We produce all we need endogenously just like other animals do. It's kind of like you don't eat eyeballs to have good eyesight, you don't eat brains to have a healthy brain, you don't eat hearts to have a healthy heart, you don't eat penises to stave off erectile dysfunction. We are not this inferior creature that requires consuming other creatures to create our own being. Plenty of extremely long-term vegans, vegans from birth, and even multi-generational vegans demonstrate this precisely.
The only supplement we take that seems absolutely required is B12 and that's just because we have such sanitary lives. And even the animals people eat are being supplemented with this and even non-vegans should highly consider supplementing this because most people that are deficient aren't even vegan. And as we age we lose intrinsic factor making it even more difficult regardless of our diet. Another important nutrient might be vitamin D because people tend to not get enough sunshine. You can also get this from mushrooms that have been exposed to enough sunlight. And some may supplement fatty acids, iodine, zinc, etc and very small doses to make sure they get a consistent amount of these things because we live such hectic lifestyles but this is not unique to being on a whole food plant-based diet. The supplement industry is held up by non-vegans not vegans.
Every person that is a retiree person should be on a veggie, fruit diet. Shouldn't be allowed to take medicine of any type won't have to. Don't get nervous. Maybe eventually they'll get rid of a b c d e f g h etc etc. And people will get back into appreciating life. Even the animals will get to live longer you won't have to kill them just to get money out of them. In the animal will get to enjoy their babies... thanks
Yet, they aren't making choices, they just conducting business as usual. They're just confirming, conditioned and desensitized to it all. They didn't have a choice regarding food growing up, then this all becomes comfort food, family food, cultural, and normalized even though it is wrong, unsustainable, unhealthy compared to healthier plant foods, and it fosters violence. People shouldn't be allowed to do whatever they want, this is why we have laws against hurting others and violence
Dear Vegans, I think it's great you have chosen this diet I support you. I am very much like you I would love to see everyone and the earth as healthy and happy as possible. That's why I am eating a carnivore diet. I think we should support and respect each other, not try and impose our diet on other people, would you be happy if they had meat only Mondays?
There are endless varieties of eating styles that can be vegan. So, support and respect makes sense when behaviors are consistent with values. Sure, we can support and respect your decision to eat raw vegan, cooked vegan, keto vegan, whatever, but as far as respecting someone's choice to hurt animals so they can ingest their body parts, organs, and secretions when they have healthier plant options available, I'm not sure how we're supposed to respect and support that. Sure, we support you reducing it as long as the goal is eliminating it as quickly as possible. I don't have any way of supporting or desire for respecting someone hurting animals and engaging in destructive behaviors like unsustainable and abusive animal agriculture. Because eating animals is completely unsustainable it inevitably results in CAFO's that are horrific. Slaughtering an animal is bad enough in and of itself, but because everyone can't eat wild caught happy until you have killed them hopefully as quickly as possible and hopefully not left their family and friends alone, CAFO's will have to be a part of your choice to eat animals. Because by you normalizing this violence you perpetuate the production of this source of energy. Plants are the most abundant and only non sentient, primary producers of energy. We support and respect you when you respect others, including animals, including my son's future on this planet ideally not being pushed to the brink of the 6th mass extinction, including your influence on others eating unhealthfully when they have healthier plant options.
@@stopgotdamndeletingmycomme8642 if someone was kicking a dog to death on the side of the road wouldn't that bother you? Or, i suppose we are suppose to respect the human no matter what they do to animals.
@@stopgotdamndeletingmycomme8642 maybe if you watch this from the beginning to the end you would better understand ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8gqwpfEcBjI.html
Already did, well, he was born before we went vegan. He was 6 when we went vegan. But the only thing we ate nonvegan prior to going vegan, when we are at home at least, was salmon. He grew up with no dairy, and his first 6 years he rarely ate meat, mostly when we went to family for the holidays. But that changed when we went vegan. We didn't control what he did outside the house but we stopped having allowing those things in the house. And we encouraged him to stay vegan outside the house. His friends were more supportive and curious than his extended family like grandparents. The grandparents still don't seem to get it. And they have heart disease and diabetes.
I would love to have another child and vegan from conception. I would if my wife wanted to but she doesn't. I have interviewed a lot of vegans from conception and have many more to interview. I haven't started releasing those videos yet, be sure to subscribe to be notified when those videos are released!
I'm going to be 50 in 2023 but I feel like I could have another child. My son is doing AMAZING. But he wasn't entirely vegan the first 6 years became were still benighted about it all. My son will be 19 in January and he really is incredible.
The only way our environment will survive is with regenerative agriculture - you eat what you want, but we need to allow the meat eaters to eat their meat.
We need to allow people to hurt animals for bo reason? And it will never be sustainable so it will inevitably result in abuse on top of the slaughter. Primary producers are plants and they are most abundant, healthy, sustainable, and ethical.
@@VeganLinked thank you for taking the time to personally reply, much appreciated. I do not do well eating plants, and certainly can’t cope with the sugar in fruit - I manage best on meat, fish eggs and a bit of dairy - the meat (beef and sheep) I eat is raised on grasslands where it’s manure ensures the soil is regenerated, it has a good life and I’m grateful for its meat that sustains me. Arable farming kills far more animals that meat farming - goodness knows how many creatures are killed per hour by those huge combine harvesters. I’m happy for you to eat what you want, but meat is certainly the mainstay of my diet and will remain so, but thank you again for bothering to reply - maybe I should avoid vegan sites going forward, I certainly didn’t want to be controversial.
@@iaindennis3321 see, when you say stuff like arable farming kills more animals than than meat farming it's hard to believe anything you are saying. I did a video for people that say this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Br2uwoDdEhs.html
@@iaindennis3321 If you're eating animals you may be getting insulin resistance and having difficulties due to that. Did you see a nutritionist, dietitian, or physician that practices lifestyle medicine or did you just make up how you "don't do well eating plants" and "can't cope with sugar in fruit". Have you ever eaten a whole plant food exclusive diet? I'm sure the animals have a lot harder time dealing with being abused and slaughtered because you never learned how to eat properly.
@@iaindennis3321the resources that go into animal agriculture result in 20 times less food compared to plant agriculture. At the same time animal agriculture results in over 10 times the death, and it's intentional death also, and there's trillions more when you factor in aquatic life. You're ignoring the fact that it takes more than 10 times as many animals to be forced into existence that need to be housed, cared for, and fed, and that results in more crop deaths than the humans could ever even come close to with plant agriculture even if we doubled our population and everyone just ate plants. Animal agriculture is devastating on every level. Grass fed animals that you say you eat, 8 billion people can't eat that way, so what you're suggesting would destroy everything if everyone tried to eat like you do.
Yesterday my family discovered a new salad restaurant in our area... Rogue Salads. We were celebrating a birthday, so were happy to find it. Only thing I put in a request for was a no oil optional salad dressing.
Great information as usual. I am not surprised by all the conflict of interests in the industry. Some East African tribes are also lactose persistent so those White supremacists definitely aren't special. I will see about being more active in my activism. Thank you.
Somebody needs to tell Gil from Nutrition Made Simple to STOP suggesting like he did on one of his videos that there is LITTLE corruption in nutrional science!! Really!!!!!! Vegan Linked can we count on you to get him to reveal his reasons ? Such a shame as his chanel is not bad. I know Dr Greger doesn't address this explicitly in this video but addresses institutions that manipulate the science but he and others have done so in the past.
Nutrition Made Simple has some potential but annoys me with his direction. Like building up hype for that low carb doctor to talk about ApoB, those videos resulted in not much in the way of meaningful. And that doctor just randomly decided he would go low carb for no significant reason. Gil didn't challenge anything, he just let him roll on through his platform pathetically. But I really like Gil (I'm assuming that's his name since you called him that). I think he has a lot of potential. I LOVE when he analyzes science, that's legit! I'm just rambling... anywho, I don't have a rapport with him but would love to. Is he vegan?
I am sure Gil knows there is corruption, but looking at it from a scientific endpoint, it shouldn't matter. Studies must be evaluated by their content and not by the source. Sometimes science on the other side is right.
@@VeganLinked Gil actually promotes plant based diets. This does not exlude low carb diets. These low carb diets include lots of vegetables (fiber, nutrients) and oils (fats) and avoid meat products. The doctor he invited was on such a diet, although not vegan. I think it was some kind of try to 'sneak' in plant based diets in. Most keto dieters were probably hurt there. Gil does not promote veganism, but healthy diets. A vegan diet might not really be the healthiest (adventist health study 2). I do like his scientific approach that is really unbiased, which might make some vegans frustrated when it doesn't show it is the only healthy diet or even the healthiest.
@@MmartinL sometimes science from the very same industry is actually fine but its the likes of Greger and the team he has that fortunately look at the data from different perspectives and occasionally find manipulation, misrepresentation and misuse.
@@panes840 I got the impression most scientists know, not just Greger and his team. To say, I think you are seemingly putting down other scientists with this statement. Although Greger is on a whole different level with his activism - really commendable. What is the problem is actually what he stated in this video - lobies. The guidelines are playing some kind of politics how not to crash certain agricultural fields - try to hold economic stability. The reality however is that information about healthy diets should not be affected by it. It should probably be produced by some health institute, not the USDA. The sad part is, if people actually followed the current guidelines, it would be much better than it currently is. Seems like the majority doesn't read the guidelines and rather gets information from the media that is even more biased / lobied by the industries.
Some would say that we evolved to do all kinds of violent things. And why be done evolving when we are living in unprecedented times with unprecedented potential to be humane?
@@vatsmith8759 Considering that the length of my digestive track is consistent with those other herbivores and higher ph and stomach size and the enzymes to break down complex carbohydrates, etc it seems like we're already there.
I skipped through because I am not interested in the harms of dairy since I don’t drink milk. I was waiting to hear more about why veggies are so superior to meat & fat. I was not convinced by what little evidence I heard. If you speak with any diabetic who is committed to keeping their glucose down and they will tell you carbs are the problem. Eating a politically motivated plant based diet is not low carb.unless you barely eat anything which would result in malnutrition. The title of his book is catchy but already a lie in itself.
I am a low carber and former diabetic myself. I also didn't see much evidence, but I'm always open to hearing about why vegan would be so great. There is a trend among low carbers to go all animal based (carnivore), but there are strong socio-economic reasons why that is not a good solution on a global scale. I get the impression that their 'evidence' is mostly based around associations between cholesterol and saturated fat and diseases. Note that the video simply states that plants don't contain cholesterol, even though they do contain phyto cholesterols which may be even worse.
Fat is in all plants. Plants have the healthiest fats, not straight saturated animal fats like sialic acids or trans fats. Animal fat causes insulin resistance, hence intramyocellular lipids. Dr Neal Barnard has a book called Program for Reversing Diabetes. Cyrus and Robby have a book called Mastering Diabetes. Try
For a master-class in being persistently mealy-mouthed, look no further than the dietary advice from advanced societies around the world. Then go WFBB vegan.
@@kohlhofers how is NutritionFacts.org moralizing? Oh, you must be hung up on the previous comment, wonder why... I prefer to not foster violence, what about you? In the meantime, do you have a more comprehensive source than NutritionFacts.org?
@@tea_earl-grey-hot Well some may argue that for example alcoholism isn't a disease. But some people end up with that on their depth certificate too. So what is it you think I don't have a clue about?
Saying people SHOULD eat a vegan diet is a question of values. A dietary GUIDELINE is not an authority of how people aught to live their life for better or worse. But let’s say everyone SHOULD eat a vegan diet. How exactly SHOULD this Vegan diet be eaten?
If you were my client (I'm a dietitian) I would advise against you trying to eat a vegan diet, since you had such a bad experience with it, and I have to respect your experience. What diet are you eating these days? Were you gone carnivore a few years ago?
Yes you should absolutely stop stuffing your face with tortured flesh. Whatever health issues you have had, stuffing your face with tortured flesh is NOT the answer you are not I repeat NOT A LION. until you can kill your victims with your own teeth and eat them at the same time YOU ARE MORALLY OBLIGATED TO STOP PAYING FOR HORRENDOUS MASSACRE
Veganism isnt a diet. Not being racist or not being sexist is not a diet. Veganism is about ethic; Related to specisism. You can be plant based and not be an anoying vegan like me, and just enjoy delicious cheap nutritional ecological food. and dont care about billions sentient being suffering. (soy tho, not ecologic to feed vegan? naa.. we waste most soy in cattle feed, not for soy human food for exemple, and in astronomical amount ofr kilo soy for kilo meat (not talking water) ) Some plant based people are not vegan and dont care animals or human.
I'm thinner than Greger, and you know what I did a few months ago? I ran a mile in 4 minutes and 4 seconds....AT AGE 43. From the outside, people judge me for being "too skinny!" On the inside, I'm biochemically about 17 years old. Maybe Greger should retire from working 37 hours a day, so he can relax, hit the gym, and conform to everyone's respective prejudices, of what a man is supposed to look like. lol
