Exclusive Chat: Mind-Blowing Secrets of Ridgedale Farm in Sweden with Richard Perkins! 

Thank you. We will.

Śūnyatā Eight 'Happy/Pasture/Locally raised is not equal to sustainable', - why not?

Śūnyatā Eight Respectng how people wish to eat, especially those who wish to do so in a sustainable manor, goes both ways. Richard even said, in the video that accompanies this one in his feed, that a ‘veg farm without animal inputs is unsustainable’. Try educating yourself in the big picture. Curtis even mentioned that he WAS a vegetarian for 16 years, raw for 1 of them and he switched back. Respect goes both ways and you get none of mine, in fact you are typical of an intolerant vegetarian that give the group of you a bad name.

Śūnyatā Eight FYI, you are TOXIC!! 😂

I'm willing to bet that the imported eggs were of much lower quality than locally purchased eggs.

Sunyata Eight You really haven't been paying attention to a few million years of nature, have you? Oh, I forgot, truth is subjective to you folks. Not really a way to counter that type of logic, is there? The only way to fix this is population control, but I bet you aren't gonna have any government telling you how many kids you can have. Let's face it shall we? The human race is screwed. Things go extinct. We are no different. It's just the way nature works. Enjoy everything while you can my friend, and stop bitching about people raising cows and chickens on their personal farms.

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I did an internship there!

Exactly! Actually we are off to a soil course there on 3rd November! very excited. I wish more people would realise you don't need to use animals.

Maybe, im no expert & would like to hear Richard's respinse to what your saying, but im thinking issue would be Sustainability, on some sized acreages at least & certain climates, being able to add the compost & get the crops in in spring, is a big deal in his. No time to wait for a month for a green manure crop or to grow one in fall, at least, along with making it profitable. Since he believes in the value of animal foods in our diets ( as do I, per WestonA.Price's work) along with their being no healthy animal-less eco-systems out there, so he may just not be interested in trying to see if its feesable, but I would like to know more of his views on it.

Alan savory says the necessity for animals-large scale is paramount. Example is the US-the bison migrations made for a heartland unparalleled. Agriculture now depends on artificial inputs to match the original fertility. See the Savory Institute.

Joan Smith, quite the opposite I thought. It's all about profit.

He's a true farmer. I grew up dairy farming w my family, so I know. If u listen to more of his talks ( Richard's) on his you tube channel, you'll see that he genuinely cares a about his animals. He just also always keeps in mind the financial component, like anyone ( who is going to succeed anyways) who runs theur own business does, & especially a farmer as that has become traditionally a money losing business & he is out to show how a permaculture & regen. Ag farm can be profitable, yet strains his ability to do that by taking on so many other teaching things in effort to help others directly & indirectly by spreading this around the world. I farmed with my family til my 30s, so I know where he's coming from & can see that he is an awfully wonderful guy, & does care.

You're right! have fun in sweden!

That’s why I started doing it. Being there, I realized that I should post at a time that’s it’s day time in both places on the same day.

This is a subject that I’m going to cover in a video soon. I think my conclusion will shock many people.

Small farms can feed the world, but......

Urban Farmer Curtis Stone I think they have to. We have to make them Feed the World. But i am very intrested in your view, could you please explain your view of the studies, that say most production on the world happens on small farms without maschines?

They can maybe produce most of the vegitables but they can not produce the bread. you still need grain production which can not be done on a market garden scale

There's an appropriate place for both small and large farms. It's not an either/or question..

Don’t sell yourself short. I am now 57 easily running a market garden. Charles Dowding I believe is even older.

Keep doing what you do! You have one of my favorite channels!

No way! Jeb - your here!

Also interested

It's a windbreak net.

bintlooda I believe they don't live long enough to start producing eggs.

There are layer breed chickens specifically grown to lay eggs and then there are meat chicken breed that grow faster and the sole purpose is to seek them for meat.

Chickens have to be around 6 months old before they start laying. Chickens bred to be solely meat birds, grow very fast and are slaughtered before they are old enough to start laying eggs. If you have a dual purpose bird, which is good for meat and eggs, you will have eggs to gather from those birds, but people raising birds just for meat aren't going to be using those types of birds.

Nope. Still posting, just mostly posting to fromthefield.farm.

When someone invites me who is serious about doing something. I only go where I’m invited.

My "farm" looks like garbage this year, so many different things around to focus on instead of farm :(

led, you could focus on growing a few tomato plants really well. quality over quantity i always say.

How big is Your farm?

Did experiment of 1000 plants under sky year ago, 80% went bad because of unusual wet year, tomatoes only in tunnels for me.

I'm curious as to why a satanist would be interested at all in agriculture.

Richard is looking at the camera mostly and also, crossing your arms in North America is not a sign of disrespect.

You’re over analyzing it. Good grief.

Ha! I'm not used to this video dialogue. We aimed to talk to the camera, although naturally you tend to turn and talk to each other at times. I think you are probably overthinking things!

Hi Richard, would you give a response to Curtis' recent video on the myths of permaculture - what permaculture got wrong?

Guys, I asked Richard to look at the camera. That's often how we shoot videos.

Maybe, I didn't have time to watch it, but sounds like a good idea. We actually share a lot of criticisms of the Permaculture 'movement'

That would be a good discussion to have. To explicitly separate the useful from the unhelpful. As Curtis said in that video I cited, there are so many people who do counter-productive things due to so-called Permaculture/or at least Permaculture according to Mollison.

You can't on scale unless your conventional.

Hey Curtis, I'd like to know what you think of this statement i ran into that doesn't agree with your statement. It's basically saying there IS enough nitrogen. At the moment I don't understand why it wouldn't work on scale, since the process of manure is physically speaking not even as eco-efficient. (source: www.worldwatch.org/node/4060). Enough Nitrogen To Go Around? In addition to looking at raw yields, the University of Michigan scientists also examined the common concern that there aren't enough available sources of non-synthetic nitrogen-compost, manure, and plant residues-in the world to support large-scale organic farming. For instance, in his book Enriching the Earth: Fritz Haber, Carl Bosch, and the Transformation of World Food Production, Vaclav Smil argues that roughly two-thirds of the world's food harvest depends on the Haber-Bosch process, the technique developed in the early 20th century to synthesize ammonia fertilizer from fossil fuels. (Smil admits that he largely ignored the contribution of nitrogen-fixing crops and assumed that some of them, like soybeans, are net users of nitrogen, although he himself points out that on average half of all the fertilizer applied globally is wasted and not taken up by plants.) Most critics of organic farming as a means to feed the world focus on how much manure-and how much related pastureland and how many head of livestock-would be needed to fertilize the world's organic farms. "The issue of nitrogen is different in different regions," says Don Lotter, an agricultural consultant who has published widely on organic farming and nutrient requirements. "But lots more nitrogen comes in as green manure than animal manure." Looking at 77 studies from the temperate areas and tropics, the Michigan team found that greater use of nitrogen-fixing crops in the world's major agricultural regions could result in 58 million metric tons more nitrogen than the amount of synthetic nitrogen currently used every year. Research at the Rodale Institute in Pennsylvania showed that red clover used as a winter cover in an oat/wheat-corn-soy rotation, with no additional fertilizer inputs, achieved yields comparable to those in conventional control fields. Even in arid and semi-arid tropical regions like East Africa, where water availability is limited between periods of crop production, drought-resistant green manures such as pigeon peas or groundnuts could be used to fix nitrogen. In Washington state, organic wheat growers have matched their non-organic neighbor's wheat yields using the same field pea rotation for nitrogen. In Kenya, farmers using leguminous tree crops have doubled or tripled corn yields as well as suppressing certain stubborn weeds and generating additional animal fodder. The Michigan results imply that no additional land area is required to obtain enough biologically available nitrogen, even without including the potential for intercropping (several crops grown in the same field at the same time), rotation of livestock with annual crops, and inoculation of soil with Azobacter, Azospirillum, and other free-living nitrogen-fixing bacteria.

By the way, an illustration of this would be the Terra farm in Luxemburg. I believe they only use compost?

I would say that in nature there are animals in all ecosystems. It is biased to remove animals. Properly managed, animals are beneficial to the ecosystem. A prime example is the grain producing prairies of North America sustained massive herds of Bison, the soil contained way more organic matter and it all went downhill with the removal of the animals to produce grains.

@@philippe9604 In the studies referenced here tho, they didn't mention comparing to farms using manure or manure/bedding composts. Wondering if it has benefits besides from nitrogen. The "animals" there, pooping, are earthworms, so not poop free/plant only as some think, but yes, I do wonder what Richards response to all the info presented in this thread would be. Even if still not his ideal ( wants animals anyways, wants to copy nature, & resulting composts is symbiotically used on his gardens & trees) would he have to recant the " not possible" statement ? If anyone has heard him comment on subject somewhere, i'd like to know... .

Oh man, a vegan and an anti-capitalist in one. Didn’t know people could get so silly. All the power to ya man.

Come'on man, ouch! Not anti-capitalist in the least! Small business owner just like yourself. I believe capitalism is one of our greatest tools to build society. I just want honesty in this space, This is the short/medium term future of food here. You can make a bunch of money doing all manner of things that create problems down-stream. I don't fault these farmers for trying to make a living however they can. Perkins is in a crazy harsh climate, The communities around this farm have probably eaten an animal heavy diet for untold generations. Perkins is trying his best to provide local food. And do it in a way he/they define as the most responsible. Awareness and a drive for responsibility is something that benefits everyone. Regenerative AG is a buzzword or phrase, like "farm to table". Its grappled by people looking to feel they are increasing they're a responsibility to the world/animals/health whatever. These terms need clear definitions and honesty. Look at what you can do with you're book Curtis, (which I own) You lay out all the steps to setup successful market gardens and they can easily be modified to require low or perhaps no outside input. And also no animal inputs. The high-intensity aspect of your work combined the use of urbanized land means that you are reducing the need for new/virgin lands to be claimed for crop production. You are directly increasing the efficiencies of already used land. I would call what you are doing MUCH more regenerative. You are directly reducing the outside need for lands to be used for the same crops. Bravo! Going out into the country, Preventing 3 or 30 acres of land from returning to its basil ecosystem (hopefully forest) Because you are running animals all over it at a great expense of human input. Only to feed a fraction of the people you would otherwise with higher intensity factory production cannot be called regenerative. Which literally means 'to restore' To restore what?

The term 'permaculture' is also very misleading. This sort of scale farming is not sustainable, nor the materials used... But the very term 'permaculture' was a misleading term since its coining by Mollison and co.

PS - animal husbandry on a small scale is good though, in a way that outside inputs aren't necessary.

It's a revealing point that the phrase 'time is money' does to people's thinking. As with any ideology, Capitalism is a filter that distorts an individual's ability to see things as they are and to treat others with due respect.