EXP GDC Beast V8.5c eGPU with GTX 1660 ti on Old Laptop from 2012 

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6Z67JN3b1Zc.html just finished my eGPU setup, HP2560p with ATI HD5670

@@newheavyion Why setting that video for RU-vid Kids? Anyway with Core i7 QM, it is a wasted Performance because the CPU is still faster than the GPU.

@@ClayWheeler it is a fun project, not a serious gaming setup. I will try same others GPUs up to a R9 285 in the 2560p. Im just in the mood to experiment with older hardware i had in boxes for years now. Im also trying an eGPU setup on an Inspiron 1525 but with Lubuntu

@@newheavyion experiment with Genshin Impact and grow your channel lol

@@ClayWheeler Not sure what you want to tell me with that answer.....

yea

It's called mortals by wario

Thanks. Sorry I haven't been active lately. Because I want to make another External GPU tutorial but with newer Laptop. Having trouble finding the good Laptop.

@@ClayWheeler I understand your situation... Here in Brazil everything is too overpriced... Do to Covid and the fu**ing bad governation of our president Bolsonaro.

@@ClayWheeler And just for your knowledge, I did eGPU and everything is working fine. Mine is 2017 Dell Inspiron 14 7460, core i5 7200u with dGPU 940MX. My eGPU is a GTX 960 2gb with NGFF EXP GDC 8.5c . Everything is running so much better after I did this eGPU. I just needed to DISABLE the 940mx on Device Manager. Cause If I uninstall the drivers, the Windows automatically detects the dGPU, enables It and turns It the "master" GPU again. So I need to disable and then install the GTX 960 newer drivers. Everythin is working fine. The only problem is th 2gb VRAM of my 960... Some games like Assassins Creed or Cyberpunk 2077 needs at least 3gb... That's why I'm thinking to upgrade the eGPU for gtx 970 (even If it is too powerful for my CPU) or gtx 1060 3gb. I dont know If will be a good trade change the 960 2gb for the 960 4gb... What do you think? Anyway, today a friend with 1060 6gb will bring his gpu to me, for a test... But I think the 970 will garantee a good compatibility

@@mauriciocajazeira228 heyy there man, i know it's been a while after you post this comment 😅 I'm planning to use EXP GDC V8.5 or 8.4 too. On your comment, said that you need to disable the 940mx driver right? So, if you install your GTX960 with the 940mx's driver disabled, does that mean that you're overwriting 940mx driver with your gtx960? What if you need to go portable (unplugs all of the cables and back to original state again), does the 940mx still works normally? Does the GTX 960 driver support the 940MX driver too so you wont have to reinstall the 940mx driver again? I really appriciate your future replies, Thanks in advance btw🙏

Did it work fine with you?

did you got it to work? what laptop and gpu btw

Cool. What's your Laptop model? Including CPU full name

@@ClayWheeler my laptop is Dell latitude e5440 Core i7-4600U CPU 2.10GHz 2.70GHz Do you think it can work with me

Well, this video is talking about Old Laptops. Vega 8 isn't particularly Old. The other proof is that Asus ROG Flow X13 using the same Driver for both GTX 1650 and eGPU RTX 3080.

Hello @ Clay Wheeler i like how you did to your laptap,my biggest problem bro is do you have Activation key to the NFS 2? i cant open it without the activation key.it said it needs to re installed then i re installed over and over again there's no use at all..please help me Clay.

@@freedom_fighter12 The Need For Speed Hot Pursuit is the original game from 2010, not the Remaster 2020 version. And this one is from Torrent

@@ClayWheeler i also download it last year in a torrent,it plays bro,but when i re installed it, it says it needs to re installed? is there any activation key for this game? i dont even know where i could find this Activation key 🗝️

its 2010 NFS 11,not the remaster

@@freedom_fighter12 I got it from here. Just copy and paste. Remove the Space of the link below oceanofgames. com/need-for-speed-hot-pursuit-game-free-download-ofgv-5768425/

Check my other Videos. It can Play several Online Games just fine.

@@ClayWheeler thank you, okay I'll check it out

You can use a usb network adapter

Not everyone even thinking about adding external GPU for Laptop back then. Let alone utilizing ExpressCard slot itself. No official ExpressCard external GPU dock ever existed. Beast EXP GDC is unofficial device made by a small company somewhere in Chína, yet they still managed to supply the demand in online shopping like AliExpress. However I still prefer the NGFF or M.2 NVMe eGPU. It's crazy faster than ExpressCard

@@ClayWheeler I'm just glad my new laptop has a gtx 1650 built in so i don't need to think about adding one 😂

@@Jackpkmn bruh, if I have a Laptop with GTX 1650, I'd still want to use eGPU like M.2 NVMe. Just like Asus ROG Flow X13 which has GTX 1650 and RTX 3080 eGPU as a Bundled item.

@@ClayWheeler Yeah but then i couldn't use my Intel 665p 1TB

@Dhfa 10 I mean it's pretty clear, were talking about adding external GPUs to laptops.

if the Software Can use more GPU instead of CPU, it can. For example, Adobe Premiere Pro 2021 can use 100% GPU and only use 15% CPU

That Laptop almost the same to my Laptop. But I don't recommend to use it with Lumion. Lumion needs at least 4 Cores 4 Threads 4 Logical CPU. Any CPU below that is not recommended. So instead of Core i5 2430M with 2 Cores 4 Threads 4 Logical CPU, you need to upgrade to Core i7 3630QM, which is 4 Cores 8 Threads 8 Logical CPU. Lumion needs high CPU instead of GPU. As for the GPU, anything is possible. At that point I recommend building a cheap Desktop PC instead of using Laptop with External GPU like this.

well i have bought exp gdc for external graphics & got scam fake vga gtx730 from alixpress vga not detected damnn....not working hopefully if i got msi/genuine one will work..

Well, when I tell in the Video by "Up To" it means all GPU Cards model of that current Gen and all Previous Generations of GPUs. With EXP GDC V8.5c you can still use GTX 980 for sure.

Just read the Pinned comment of this video. And I bought this from AliExpress.

Most likely your info is about the laptop's GPU , not the external one since you use an external power supply that can't be read by your laptop's sensors.

That's exactly what this video is talking about. I can switch to my Radeon GPU whenever NVidia is disconnected (unplugged)

@@ClayWheeler ahh i see the point there, dont have to uninstall the mobile gpu driver, im asking wether its doable or not..m and since it could then really good to know that... anyway thx for the reply mate good video.

HDMI dummy will create extreme Bottleneck because the cable isn't supposed to be Two-Way . Unless the Laptop support HDMI input.

is that Core i5? Using what EXP GDC model? NGFF?

@@ClayWheeler Oh yay I fix it use nvidia error 43 fixer, really thank you for your video so much

More likely the Laptop itself rather than Graphics Card. Check out pinned comment for range of Compatible Graphics Card, even RTX 3070 is possible. But if the Laptop has poor compatibility or a driver that's no longer updated by the company itself, then the Graphics Card might not be detected at all.

Yes

With mPCIe version? Try to unplug the eGPU mPCIe-HDMI cable from the dock, but let the mPCIe stay connected to the Laptop. And then just boot. If the boot is successful, try to uninstall the AMD Radeon HD 7650M using DDU Display Driver Uninstaller. And then restart, go to BIOS. Check for something similar to this video about booting from network adapter boot. After that, replug the HDMI to eGPU dock. Try to boot again. If it fails, you might have accidentally flipped the Physical switch (or maybe the seller has toggled the switch) on the eGPU dock. If it hard to reach, use needle to move the switch

Actually you can, all Laptops can. First of all, you will be limited with 2 Options for External GPU. WiFi slot OR M.2 NVMe slot. The First Option is by WiFi slot, which without a doubt, you have NGFF slot. With NGFF you have 8Gbps Bandwidth (while this video is just 2.5Gbps) So you can use EXP GDC NGFF. Second Option is M.2 NVMe. To make sure about this, please open your Laptop manually, and check if the Motherboard have Two M.2 NVMe slots and make sure it is written "NVMe" or "PCIe" on its PCB board near the M.2 slot. If it says "M.2" or "SSD" then you cannot use eGPU with this slot. If it says "NVMe" or "PCIe" then you can use that slot for eGPU. So you can buy EXP GDC V9.0b NVMe. Search keywords on AliExpress is "Beast EXP GDC"

With M.2 NVMe, you can have 16Gbps bandwidth if it is X2 Lanes, OR 32Gbps bandwidth if it is X4 Lanes.

Try to record a Video of your Laptop with NGFF, and then I will pin your Video to the pinned comment. So more people can get reference to NGFF

Dell Brick 220W PSU is really Good. It can handle up to RTX 2060 just fine. So basically the Dell 220W Brick PSU is connected directly to the eGPU 8 pins input. And then from the 6 pins Output on the side is enough to handle Mid Range GPU up to RTX 2060 with single 8 Pins PCIe power connector -- or any GPU with Single 8 Pins PCIe power connector in general. See my Troubleshooting video about how to Plug Dell DA Brick PSU.

@@ClayWheeler thanks you bro you really help me there

What is the Laptop model name? And by the way, Actually you can still use the same NVidia card even if your Laptop already have NVidia dGPU like GT 620m. You need to Clean Uninstall of NVidia GT 620M and then Completely Disable it from Device Manager. And then you can use NVidia GTX 1650. If you're using Radeon RX 560 you will need special PSU because RX 560 don't have PCIe power connector. The PSU you need is "Dell DA 220 Watt Brick PSU" usually only cost $20. Here's the example of using Special PSU for RX 560 equivalent ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ir-5JDITDd8.html

I also have a newer video, about the Game that is a little bit more demanding than this video.

i already watch your new video, it is a great game test for your egpu, my laptop model is acer aspire v5-471

@@louvainmontalbo7831 yeah, Recording a video makes huge FPS drop. If I'm not Recording, it is always stay at 120 FPS, because the game is locked at 120 FPS max by developer.

@@louvainmontalbo7831 I will dig into that Laptop model right now

Watch this for Acer with Ryzen ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pKv436sOrNo.html

Thunderbolt needs its own Chipset on the eGPU dock Module (just like any other Thunderbolt External GPU on the Market) Beast EXP GDC doesn't sell Thunderbolt eGPU. The only reason Thunderbolt eGPU is not Cheap -- around $200 or more -- is because the Company who makes every Thunderbolt eGPU must pay Royalty for every unit being made. Yes I know Intel gave away the Rights patent for Thunderbolt interface, but apparently it doesn't apply to TB3. Only TB4 and forward. And YET, The only Thunderbolt eGPU that already exists on the market is TB3 based, no TB4 existed yet -- in theory TB4 should be Cheaper. But if you're looking for the Cheapest Thunderbolt eGPU, you might want to search on Chinese Online Shopping websites like Alibaba or AliExpress. You might want to check ADT-Link R43SG TB3.

@@ClayWheeler thankyou!

Uhhh. Idk, that will be hard to recommend.

From the BIOS? Did you Change the BIOS like I do in this video?

Just open it up and check the slot type of the wifi card. Also I would suggest to instead get a rx 500 series because unlike the gt 1030 they will be supported by the new amd FSR technology. You can get a rx 560 for about 140$ right now on Ebay.

@@craigthebrute9678 thanks!

You must open your Laptop by yourself to check it.

During Gaming, I suggest setting up the Power config to "High Performance" this will surely eats battery faster. However this is 8 years old battery. The maximum discharge of this Laptop in my video is just 45 minutes for watching videos or 1.5 hour Typing documents in MsWord. I could easily buy a new battery which is just $5 here from HP service center.

That's why I always plug the battery to AC Charger.

There are several points to pay attention here First, Core i5 5200U might be using NGFF WiFi slot. So you need to get EXP GDC NGFF. Example of assembly here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pKv436sOrNo.html Secondly, 750ti or 1050ti is a 75 Watt GPU category. You need different approach to feed Power to the eGPU board because the White Cable Adapter that Bridge from PSU to eGPU Actually doesn't give a stable 75 Watt. Check my Latest eGPU Troubleshooting video regarding this one.

Good question. Step 1. You may need to change the Power Plan solution from Control Panel. It is either Power Saving, Balanced, or High Performance mode. Change it to High Performance mode. Step 2. Go to Device Manager, Scroll down to "System", expand it, scroll down to "High Precision Event Timer" right click on it, and Disable. Step 3. After doing step 1&2 Shutdown the Laptop, make sure the eGPU cable inserted properly. And plug the USB pendrive or Audio jack before turning On the Laptop. Step 4. After turning On the Laptop, try to safely remove hardware of that USB pendrive, and then, put it back in. Try to see what happens. When you're on High Performance Mode, try to Plug the Laptop charger.

Note: if the problem still the same, it is very likely the DRIED Up Thermal Paste. I have to admit that my Laptop in this video has never been reapplied the Thermal Paste for 8 years. I only added the Thermal Paste when waiting ordering the eGPU Online. But I didn't put it in this video.

Yeah, it's in another video. Online game, Multiplayer as well

From the year 2015? if I'm not mistaken, it was a Transition Year when Some of Laptop Companies are switching from Mini PCI-e to NGFF Wifi Model. And some model still using old Mini PCI-e So you need to Open your Laptop by yourself to check the Connector type

@@ClayWheeler Is there a way to tell the difference between the two if you look at it from the outside?

@@nguyenminhcuong6828 No. Just Opening the Laptop case is the Only way. No other way to tell it. Unless you have Laptop from 2016 which is 100% Definitely using NGFF WiFi slot. Or Laptop from 2014 which is using mPCIe WiFi slot. 2015 is Transition Year.

@@ClayWheeler Thank you very much. What 's a kind of you

No, USB is not part of PCIe controller specification. It's just for Storage. PCIe is PCIe. It is required for GPU. But if it is USB type C Thunderbolt, then it is part of PCIe so it can be used for eGPU

@@ClayWheeler If I use PCle then which card(Radeon or Nvidia GTX 1650ti/1660ti/...) is suitable for my mentioned laptop model.Please tell.

@@k.santhoshkumarsanthu7381 Radeon RX 5600

Can

@@ClayWheeler ok, thanks answering

Depending on model. mPCIe Connector carry PCIe Gen1 x1 Lane Express Card carry PCIe Gen2 x1 Lane NGFF Connector carry PCIe Gen3 x1 Lane M.2 NVMe carry PCIe Gen3 x2 or x4 Lane (auto switch to Laptop's chipset itself)

mPCIe 2.5 Gbps Express Card 5 Gbps NGFF 8 Gbps M.2 NVMe 16 or 32 Gbps (auto switch)

​@@ClayWheeler Perfect, here is my problem. lets assume we are using NGFF 8 Gbps, as you know the cabel which has two connectors HDMI and NGFF connected to the eGPU and motherboard, HDMI 2.5 Gbps and NGFF 8 Gbps, so how the HDMI will not bottleneckthe 8 Gb ? and if so what is the benift of design HDMI? and the 2nd thing is the 2nd output HDMI to the monitor which you said also 2.5, So what is the benfit of 8 Gb of 1 lane if the output to the monitor is only 2.5 G ? thanks again I wish you explain this to me.

@@divinxoii the HDMI is NOT doing anything related to HDMI display signal Wiring Diagram. It literally just Physical BUS Connector of PCIe signal. HDMI Wiring Diagram apparently can carry 16 Gbps at max. Hence why you see v9.0 or v9.5 has double HDMI. Another product you may want to check it out JHH-Link which kinda looks like EXP GDC v9.5 but more neat and can handle 32 Gbps with same Dual HDMI connector

​@@ClayWheeler Thank you so much for sharing your deep knowledge.

You need PCIe Allocation. First, you need to disconnect your eGPU. Just unplug the eGPU HDMI cable is enough. Now Boot your Laptop normally. Open Device Manager. Since you said you had NVidia GT 635M, it must be listed as "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter" alongside with IntelHD in Display Adapter section? Now, on the top menu from Device Manager, Click on View - Devices by Connection. Now Try to Expand every PCI Devices, scroll down until you find that "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter" . Once you find that Root PCI location of the GT 635M, Right Click on that PCI root of the GT 635M, and then Disable it. Now Shutdown the Laptop. Use eGPU again. One question, is your GTX 1050 ti has additional PCIe power connector? If it doesn't have PCIe power connector, it must be a 75 Watt GPU category. You will need a different way to connect the PSU to the eGPU. I have another video of it.

@@ClayWheeler yes it has , and thanks will try this later after church

@@ClayWheeler yes it has

i think i already disabled it

Oh wait, try to install it NOT By using GeForce Experience. But I need to ask, what kind of GTX 1650 are you using? Does it have 8 Pins PCIe Power Connector as in GTX 1660? if it doesn't have any Supplementary Power Connector, it must be 75 Watt GPU. Watch the Pinned Comment of this Video for GTX 1650. IMPORTANT!!! Make sure you are using either Windows 7 64 Bit OR Windows 10 V1903 or newer. Windows 8 8.1 or Windows 10 Before V1903 can't use eGPU. Step 0: Please uninstall any of your Current NVidia Drivers and NVidia GeForce Experience. Unplug the eGPU from Laptop. First, you might want to Uninstall NVidia GeForce Experience normally from the Control Panel of Windows. And then download DDU.exe (Display Driver Uninstaller) And then, Restart to Safe Mode, use DDU.exe to Uninstall the remaining NVidia Drivers After that, restart normally Step 1: Now Plug back the eGPU and Go to the BIOS FIRST!! Lenovo & Acer: In BIOS Set Graphic Device -UMA & Graphic Mode - Integrated), Or in PXE Boot to LAN (Network Boot) Disable it. HP & DELL: In Boot Sequence - Untick Onboard NIC, Or in System Configuration - Disable Integrated NIC, Or in Power Management - Disable the Wake on LAN/WLAN. THINKPAD: In BIOS -Config-Display-Graphics device-Integrated graphics, Or Disable OS Detection for NVIDIA Optimus. Alienware & Clevo: In BIOS Set Primary display - IGFX or PCI. Continue installation by Downloading RAW DRIVER for GTX 1650 Without GeForce Experience!!! www.howtogeek.com/681225/how-to-download-nvidia-drivers-without-geforce-experience/ Step 2: After installing, you might be asked to Restart the Laptop. I'm waiting for your response.

@@ClayWheeler Hi yes, My GTX1650 is running with a 6pin connector powered with a 500w power supply alongside, does this same method apply to a Toshiba laptop? cant seem to enter bios through the startup so ill figure that out. I'll try the methods given then give you an update

@@ClayWheeler Ok i have tried all the methods ( except bios because uefi firmware setting not available and boot dosent show ( legacy mode ) , its still 0% ultilization , while playing games it sometimes spike to 100% ultilization then goes back to 0% or sometimes there is from 14% - 7% , GPU memory is always at 0.0/4GB or sometimes 0.1/4GB , any other methods or help using screen share? I tried disabling my AMD Radeon 7760M but doesnt work too, playing games sometimes 0% ultilization but temps increase a bit

@@Chester-pv3mt is there some Error Warnings in Device Manager or not?

@@ClayWheeler nope no code 43 or anything, i have tried another method which is disabling my amd gpu and it kind of worked? It started ultilizing a bit and gpu temps rised. The only game didnt worked was Valorant. Roblox worked fine and benchmarked runned well detecting my egpu

For GTX 1060, actually Beast EXP GDC V8.0 is okay. Because I have seen someone using RTX 3070 on EXP GDC V8.0 just fine. You might want to search on RU-vid using these keywords for NGFF: MeanPooh NGFF

@@ClayWheeler oh yes I've seen vidoes from that channel as well, thanks for the insight. I can save a bit of money with that info. Also with regards to having a cheap power supply, I saw in your other vid that the power output may be unstable so I am a little afraid that it will also cause me some small issues.

@@freetohplays2533 no need to worry. GTX 1060 still needs PCIe Power Connector anyway. And it is relatively same power requirement to GTX 1660 Ti. A Cheap PSU will do.

@@freetohplays2533 as long as the PSU has dedicated PCIe Power Cable, it is more than enough for GTX 1060

@@ClayWheeler okay thanks for your help!

Riser with USB or Mini PCIe? It's different

@@ClayWheeler no, i mean if the pcie extender works with the exp gdc. sorry for the confusion

@@yubinator7455 oh yeah it works, but apparently it has too many Latency if you add PCIe extender. (If you press jump, your character has delay to do Jump, even if it is 120 FPS) What is your Laptop anyway?

@@ClayWheeler no laptop. just a mini pc(if you are familiar with intel NUCs) with a nvme slot.

@@yubinator7455 oh, then you need to use M.2 NVMe eGPU like ADT-Link R43SG. Just browse on RU-vid using keywords "M.2 NVMe eGPU" Some people already reviewed it, and it has very low Latency.

Wait really? Are you sure it is using Mini PCIe version? As far as I know Intel Core i5 from 2015 with IntelHD 5500 is using NGFF WiFi socket. I could be wrong. But anyway more or less yeah you can use EXP GDC eGPU with any GPU be it NVidia or AMD RX is fine. That's why I tell anyone who watch this video to Open Your Laptop before deciding to buy eGPU.

@@ClayWheeler Oh right, I'll definitely open my laptop to double check, thanks. But yeah, assuming it is using Mini PCIe, I'm talking about using a PCIe capture card with the EXP GDC, not a GPU. Could you perhaps answer on that? :)

@@horgoththerelentless261 the capture card in my mind is using the portable one. For one reason: you are using an Old Laptop. The possible Capture Card is from GPU card HDMI output to the Capture Card Passthru. So the scenario look like this: Laptop->eGPU->GPU->Capture Card->Hard Drive & External Monitor. The Hard Drive here is HDD External with USB 3.0 to write the captured video. Elgato Capture Card that you mentioned is using PCIe lanes on Desktop Motherboard to capture visual activity. You need another type of Capture Card. I will do a quick search for this kind of Capture Card

@@horgoththerelentless261 the Keywords search for this kind of Capture Card is: Capture Card Passthrough for Laptop. Not sure if Elgato have this version or not

@@ClayWheeler I'm not sure what you all meant but at least I'm aware that Elgato mentions PCIe lanes directly on the Desktop Motherboard, however it's already been shown to work on external PCIe slots as well (though these are Thunderbolt eGPU enclosures): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1ChBo65TMz0.html Only thing is, my laptop has no Thunderbolt port and I also don't find those enclosures' pricetags worth it. Also I have no interest in buying a dedicated external capture card from Elgato or any other company, I'm specifically interested in the 4K60 Pro Mk.2 for its multifeed feature (i.e. it automatically records and stores a copy of your game capture on your pc's HDD while you're streaming).

How many NVMe SSD slot does it have on the Motherboard? I cannot give you any recommendations before you know the inside of your Laptop. Try to search Video about your Laptop model Disassembly

Option 1) Put back the WiFi Adapter like original placement. Start the Laptop once. And then put it to Sleep instead of Shutdown. SLEEP not SHUTDOWN. And then take off WiFi adapter, and Plug the eGPU like usual. Option 2) is it using Windows 10? Please do a Full Shutdown just like Windows 7. Start-Run command or CMD Shutdown.exe /s /f /t 1 And then put back the eGPU. Option 3) Reinstall Laptop with Windows 7.

@@ClayWheeler yes i am using windows 10 and thanks for the reply

Which one? I hope it is Dell Inspiron with Intel CPU, not AMD CPU, because Old AMD CPU before Ryzen are vert difficult to set up with any kind of External GPU. So please tell me the exact Dell Inspiron version