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Explaining All Banned Extra Deck Monsters in YuGiOh [Part 2] 

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@ExplosionsGoBOOM
@ExplosionsGoBOOM 3 года назад
All it took was one yugioh video, and now these don't stop showing up in my feed
@UncrownedKing17
@UncrownedKing17 3 года назад
yep
@assault410
@assault410 3 года назад
Enjoy your stay
@salehabuluay8158
@salehabuluay8158 3 года назад
There’s no escape
@extremepillows
@extremepillows 3 года назад
thats works with any type of video, like chess, (insert game here), etc
@cax1175
@cax1175 3 года назад
You've fallen prey to our adhesive trap hole
@solairefan5420
@solairefan5420 3 года назад
The fact that a lot of Outer Entity cards are banned/limited is really sad, their artwork is so cool and I would love to see more lovecraftian stuff in yu gi oh
@zeduarte198
@zeduarte198 3 года назад
Funny how in the game non spell and trap cards are called "monsters" by definition, but hardly any of them is an actual monster. The Entity arctype is indeed really cool and imo they have one of the best design on the entire game. But gotta feed the weebs with kawai anime waifus instead of actual monsters
@lasarousi
@lasarousi 3 года назад
For Lovecraft art style go to Magic.
@gkarak1996
@gkarak1996 3 года назад
@@zeduarte198 don't forget the dragons, warriors and spellcasters. Or another god-darn blue-eyes or dark magician support. Just let them rest in the gy already.
@ThePunikaTV
@ThePunikaTV 3 года назад
@@lasarousi I gotta give it to magic, they do nail the whole monster design a lot better than the card game that also calls itself duel monster.
@cyberplatypus4269
@cyberplatypus4269 3 года назад
I like to believe that konami will add 2 link entity cards in the future since this archetype has two of each type of extra deck monsters
@kcStranger
@kcStranger 3 года назад
Suggestion: Top 10 surprisingly balanced cards. Cards that seem like they should be overpowered or terrible, but that wind up being kinda fair.
@gamergames8073
@gamergames8073 3 года назад
I would say summoner monk would fall under that
@tadashinakano219
@tadashinakano219 3 года назад
How About SNAKE RAIN
@caleblangley1948
@caleblangley1948 3 года назад
@@tadashinakano219 snake rain would be so broken, but Konami knows how broken that card is and creates Reptiles weaker because of that card in mind imo. I think Konami should just ban snake rain, and try to make reptiles without nerfing them, because snake rain is no longer a legitimate concern.
@hhaavvvvii
@hhaavvvvii 3 года назад
@@caleblangley1948 There's some pretty powerful reptiles in the next set being printed.
@caleblangley1948
@caleblangley1948 3 года назад
@@hhaavvvvii i saw those guys. They look pretty cool.
@blueiblis250
@blueiblis250 3 года назад
New Errata term: Envoy of the ended When something was so broken that it had to be nerfed like Chaos emperor dragon so it could actually be playable again.
@slifer875
@slifer875 3 года назад
you mean "unplayeable" right? errata CED is garbage, i would have preffered if he stayed banned.
@blueiblis250
@blueiblis250 3 года назад
@@slifer875 playable so that he can be used. Unplayable because his effect takes 20 years to prock
@zdelrod829
@zdelrod829 2 года назад
@@blueiblis250 They just needed to put hard once per turns, and making it so you can not summon any monsters after the destruction effect is used
@r3zaful
@r3zaful 2 года назад
@@blueiblis250 here to make it easy for you Jester confit to linkuriboh linkuriboh to secure gardna now tribute secure gardna with a level 6 dragon then summon envoy of the end now its effect is online.
@dinosore_rs
@dinosore_rs 10 месяцев назад
Firewall Dragon? >w
@popstarchamp
@popstarchamp 3 года назад
Speaking of the anime and Ancient Fairy Dragon, there was a part of that story where AFD was taken prisoner and basically sealed away. And now it basically finds itself in the same kind of "prison" in the real card game.😝
@thatman666
@thatman666 3 года назад
Yet it’s associated Signer is a mere side character alongside her brother even with Spirit World powers. Heck their manga counterparts were better and intimidating.
@gkarak1996
@gkarak1996 3 года назад
Considering how all earthbounds need field spells to exist on the field it makes sense.
@popstarchamp
@popstarchamp 3 года назад
@@thatman666 Luna didn't even have really have much of a defined archetype either. For being a character that held several important plot factors, she really didn't do much. Heck Leo was basically a better Signer than her before he even got his Mark. (Way later than he actually should have gotten it because of the whole Blackwing popularity giving Crow a Mark first deal)
@popstarchamp
@popstarchamp 3 года назад
@@gkarak1996 Good point.
@shakeweller
@shakeweller 3 года назад
Gumblar Dragon is unfixable without completly changing what it does. It's one of those "I can't believe they printed that" type of cards.
@TheDuelLogs
@TheDuelLogs 3 года назад
Yeah kind of lol
@big_pip_energy_tt
@big_pip_energy_tt 3 года назад
Funny thing is, its actually nerfed from the anime, where its anime effect was once per turn if its extra linked you can destroy all cards in your opponents hand and burn them for 3k
@nodeberiaestaraqui93
@nodeberiaestaraqui93 3 года назад
[Last Turn flashbacks]
@masonmcdonald2089
@masonmcdonald2089 3 года назад
@@big_pip_energy_tt It's still got the 3k burn. They just have to have no remaining cards after the discard 2 extra link effect.
@pkmnlover3812
@pkmnlover3812 3 года назад
heck even making its material archtype specific could slow it down
@Zetact_
@Zetact_ 3 года назад
Everyone like, "Poor Ruka, her boss monster is banned." Meanwhile I'm like, "Poor Ruka, she NEVER GOT ANYTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO A REAL DECK."
@TailsTheFox32
@TailsTheFox32 3 года назад
PREACH
@TheRoseReaper
@TheRoseReaper 3 года назад
Thank you!
@kikaioshin6700
@kikaioshin6700 3 года назад
Still hope they release her Forest and Fairy Tale cards from the manga into the OCG/TCG, besides finally giving Ruka her own deck it's also a deck that has a lot of potential of being good (Forests at least, don't know about her Fairy Tale cards, but they would at least be a nice support for Ancient Fairy/Pixie Dragon.)
@teddyhaines6613
@teddyhaines6613 3 года назад
When the number of duels she had can be counted on one hand, no wonder she never got a real deck.
@kikaioshin6700
@kikaioshin6700 3 года назад
@@teddyhaines6613 Carly only dueled twice and she got herself two real decks and even some legacy support. Ruka deserves better than a secondary character...
@MaketsufumaGaming
@MaketsufumaGaming 3 года назад
Gumblar could be fixed by adding a "your opponent must have 5 or more cards in their hand to activate and resolve this effect"
@pkmnlover3812
@pkmnlover3812 3 года назад
even making it 2+ Cyberse effect monsters would slow it down
@randomprotag9329
@randomprotag9329 3 года назад
@@pkmnlover3812 i am more for changing the requirements to something that rockets can summon since its right to make a card unsummonable by the character that used it. though needing 5 cards in the hand can would fix it better than any material change.
@jakedubiel5761
@jakedubiel5761 Год назад
​@@pkmnlover3812 super late but it would need to be dragon not cyberse, as topologics are literslly meant to be used with rokkets which are all dragons
@glennrugar9248
@glennrugar9248 3 года назад
I remember pulling a ghost rare ancient fairy dragon and losing my mind. Best pull I ever had
@Prince_Eva_Huepow
@Prince_Eva_Huepow 3 года назад
Awesome
@morningstarrss
@morningstarrss 3 года назад
that is awesome!!
@r_thekingslayerx4352
@r_thekingslayerx4352 3 года назад
Noice
@BloodfelX
@BloodfelX 3 года назад
Nice! Mine was getting Honest on my birthday. ...Then a bit later they released Honest in a special edition box. xD
@tranquil5892
@tranquil5892 3 года назад
that was one of my rarest card back in the day. that and a ghost rare rainbow dragon that eventually got throw through the washer lmao. good times man
@voltingmaster5458
@voltingmaster5458 3 года назад
Do top 10 banned cards that were power crept off the list.
@TheDuelLogs
@TheDuelLogs 3 года назад
Ooo good idea
@princesscrystal6410
@princesscrystal6410 3 года назад
@@TheDuelLogs did you ever do a top 10 cards that got banned years after released?
@voltingmaster5458
@voltingmaster5458 3 года назад
Your Colossus segment gave me the inspiration for that suggestion
@ARM-jz2qy
@ARM-jz2qy 3 года назад
BLS - Envoy of the Beginning, Tribe-Infecting Virus, Magician of Faith, Breaker the Magical Warrior just to mention some of these.
@voltingmaster5458
@voltingmaster5458 3 года назад
@@ARM-jz2qy See Also the previously mentioned el shadoll construct
@skybabe4293
@skybabe4293 3 года назад
Crazy how Ancient Fairy Dragon was pretty subpar during my yugioh days. Literally just used as a high defense synchro when in desperate situations. Until broken field spells were released...
@aroperdope
@aroperdope 3 года назад
The prettiest synchro dragon getting the ban 🔨 could be considered a badge of honor. Unpopular opinion I know...
@ssengageisop3952
@ssengageisop3952 3 года назад
@@aroperdope ahhh
@thatman666
@thatman666 3 года назад
Generally that needed to happen because why be a Field Spell at all if it can’t provide “Home Field Advantage”?
@secondslash587
@secondslash587 3 года назад
in duel links Ancient Fairy Dragon isn’t banned yet because field spells haven’t been powercrept... except for flipping Necrovalley that Blackwing decks are abusing Ancient Fairy Dragon to search
@aroperdope
@aroperdope 3 года назад
@@secondslash587 they should ban mountain; which is Kaiba's & Mai's skill. Because players are abusing that skill to allow them to search for necro valley using afd; or at least change that skill to make it extremely difficult if not impossible to use necro valley. Then again just make it a lore card; we're only Luna is a allowed to have it due to it being one of a kind. As Kaiba & Mai have no business using it or Blackwings...
@justmoody2072
@justmoody2072 3 года назад
Extra link is when you co-linked your link monsters from one extra monster zone to the other extra monster zone. So basically you are allowed to use 2 extra monster zones instead of just one. While co-linked is a state when your 2 or more of link monsters are pointing to each other.
@TheDuelLogs
@TheDuelLogs 3 года назад
Yeah your correct, I explained the completely wrong thing lol. Thats a strait up mistake in the video.
@pumpkingkingoftoons6185
@pumpkingkingoftoons6185 3 года назад
@@TheDuelLogs you're* ;)
@thatman666
@thatman666 3 года назад
I thought he has editors to proofread his videos or did I mishear things.
@jcprofit
@jcprofit 3 года назад
As someone who is very new to yugioh, these videos are super interesting, both because they explain why cards are so strong, but also because they talk about the history of the cards in question and why they were so strong at the time, even if they aren’t as strong now (ex. Dark Armed Dragon)
@Necroxion
@Necroxion 3 года назад
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@raysin.st.5778
@raysin.st.5778 3 года назад
Where can i get that language or Symbols? Whats its Name?
@Necroxion
@Necroxion 3 года назад
@@raysin.st.5778 Zalgo
@raysin.st.5778
@raysin.st.5778 3 года назад
@@Necroxion thank you brother!
@skyrocket4456
@skyrocket4456 3 года назад
"Azathot was banned because it was used to shut down your opponent's monster effects during their turn" Calamities:
@alucard5841
@alucard5841 3 года назад
calamities will be banned sooner or later, but azathoth could be used in any deck where VFD is nearly exclusive to virtual world
@fortidogi8620
@fortidogi8620 3 года назад
theres a few other decks that can make it, like metalfoes, but none nearly as easily
@Ecdemaniac
@Ecdemaniac 3 года назад
@@alucard5841 I use it in true king dino
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 2 года назад
@@alucard5841 Virtual Worlds really broke it because of how easily they can make Level/Rank 9 Extra Deck plays. Its ban was deserved.
@dannybeane2069
@dannybeane2069 3 года назад
"Unless new X-saber support came out tommorow" So what? We'd get XXX saber cards?
@KenjiAsakura09
@KenjiAsakura09 2 года назад
Konami getting raunchy
@astralraichu6721
@astralraichu6721 3 года назад
That's Co-Linked. Extra-Linked is when your have 3+ Link monsters (2 in both extra zones) and ALL are Co-Linked.
@DeezCards
@DeezCards 3 года назад
Similar to not having a battle phase on the first turn, I’ve always thought it would make sense for Konami to change the rules so that you can’t discard from your opponents hand on the first turn. This would help fix a lot of broken cards
@someguynamedsomething9612
@someguynamedsomething9612 3 года назад
Yeah that would help, though standby phase discards would still happen
@coins_png
@coins_png 3 года назад
@@someguynamedsomething9612 I would take those over first turn discards at any time
@drago99jf
@drago99jf Год назад
Or activate negation effects for the first turn two turns of the duel. So each gets to set up their field without being stopped and then the two full fields battle it out. That be much more fair instead of just stopping players from playing glorified solitaire
@lordcorbipants545
@lordcorbipants545 3 года назад
“For people who don’t understand links” *proceeds to give the wrong information
@chaosphoenix89
@chaosphoenix89 2 года назад
AFD was SUPER popular in the sort-of In-between-meta between Lightsworns and Dragon Rulers, around the time that the Dark World Structure deck came out (one of the first structures that became meta-defining just by buying 3 copies) it was thrown into a lot of DW decks along with Fabled Raven and Tour Guide, to cycle through Gates.
@OnyxMP312
@OnyxMP312 3 года назад
I feel like a lot of players in this game share this opinion: "Floodgates should be banned, they're not healthy for the game. Period. But Thunder Dragon Colossus coming off the banlist wouldn't be THAT bad for the game." I have a hard time understanding the duality of that opinion.
@alucard5841
@alucard5841 3 года назад
i also don't get it, ofr me, thunder collossus should satay banned. sure, it's limited in the OCG, but they have "that grass looks greener" and "maxx c" as unlimited cards, OCG is in a different power level. also floodgates are only a problem, because neraly everydeck likes to add cards from deck to hand, special summon from the extra deck, and special summon from the main deck. floodgate for one of this things can completly ruin a deck, but if power level wasn't this high as it is today, and decks only used one and rarely two of this, floodgate wouldn't be much of a problem.
@KyanbuXM
@KyanbuXM 3 года назад
Honestly I think that's mostly just Thunder Dragon players wanting their boss back since the other Fusion isn't that good. And the deck is kind of dead now.
@SuperSparrow45
@SuperSparrow45 3 года назад
@@alucard5841 The OCG is different, but in a way that benefits Colossus and Thunder Dragons, not hinder them. Honestly, the difference in the games only bolsters the argument that Colossus can return to 1 in the TCG. It is legal in the OCG, a game who's meta is generally crafted to favor Thunder Dragon as an archetype, since with Maxx C, you can still realistically drop a Colossus and pass, and that's not a bad play under Maxx C. In the TCG, Maxx C doesn't exist and Thunders have to go toe to toe with end boards, and generally speaking, their endboards are good, but far from typical tier 1 and 2 deck endboards. Not to mention, there's a myriad of counters to Colossus nowadays. Nah, I called out Konami for banning it, claiming it was a bad move and time has proven that to be fact. Colossus was never ban worthy and that is solidified.
@shanehaney6040
@shanehaney6040 3 года назад
At this point, I kinda just wanna see them bring Maxx C to one - I’ve complained (read - bitched) a lot about how Special Summon Centric modern YuGiOh is, and the OCG has Maxx C anyway...
@LadyTsunade777
@LadyTsunade777 3 года назад
"There is a surprisingly little amount of banned Fusion monsters compared to other Extra Deck monster types." I mean, Fusions were mostly balanced thanks to needing 3+ other specific cards to summon - two specific materials and a fusion spell. And then they threw balance out the window with every new summon type after, degrading the game further and further with each new summon type. Synchros only need 1 specific material and 1 or more other generic materials and no spell, XYZ only need 2+ generic materials and no spell, and now Links which sometimes only need a single generic material and no spell. Konami just does not have even the slightest understanding of the phrases "power level" "keeping power creep to a minimum" or "maintaining balance". Games are won or lost solely based on opening hands and the first 1-2 turns now, the only monsters worth running or summoning are ones with omni-negates or other effects that don't target or destroy, since most other monsters have "can't be targeted or destroyed" or some other equally powerful protection on them now-a-days, and the game is nothing but special summon spamming out 2/3 your main deck and half your extra deck within 1 turn. Not to mention the fact that most spell or trap cards are also useless, even archetype specific ones, thanks to the amount of overpowered generic extra deck monsters and the few overpowered generic spells and traps. Also, it's pretty telling how poor a grasp of the idea of a fun or balanced game Konami has when hand trap monsters (one of the least fun aspects of Yu-Gi-Oh with extremely little counter-play) are considered so core to the game that they ban and restrict some of the only ways to stop them. (Azathot, Called to the Grave, etc)
@YGOkid8
@YGOkid8 3 года назад
At this point, no one probably plays modern Yu-Gi-Oh! because they're looking for a fair and balanced card game to play. But it is a lot of fun to see how new cards interact with random old ones in broken or other unintended ways.
@carpedm9846
@carpedm9846 3 года назад
Well, I would argue syncro monsters were actually one of the least powercreeping summon types. Because lets call them as what they are, Extra Deck Rituals. Only differences is, you use a tuner monster instead of a ritual spell, and you have to exactly match the level instead of "X or higher total level" of rituals. Syncros arent too far from the very first game balance.
@ericlarson3133
@ericlarson3133 3 года назад
one could assume konami keeps making cards more powerful so competitive players would continue buying new stuff. not that this makes it any better. i just replay my old yu-gi-oh video games for when the game was at its peak imo
@alucard5841
@alucard5841 3 года назад
yugioh domnfall started when it choosed power creep instead of set rotation. i don't play magic, but i tried to learn it last year, i was actually surprised by how simple the game is, given it's age. i enjoy the mechanics of extra deck (except pendulum) they serve to flavor the game and make some creative archtypes possible, like sky striker. also like graveyard effects, it's cool to have decks that aren't affraid of destroying their own cards. the real problem is when we can do 5+ effects on the same turn, if the game was balanced around 5 effects as being the very maximum you can use in a turn, with few execptions, it would be fun to play.
@YGOkid8
@YGOkid8 3 года назад
@@alucard5841 No real disagreements, but to be honest, Konami banning old problem cards is basically a really shoddy set rotation. xd
@DraconicLeafTalarus
@DraconicLeafTalarus 3 года назад
I feel like the only real way to unban Topologic Gumblar Dragon without changing its effect is to make it once per duel.
@shamanazakura
@shamanazakura 3 года назад
I was thinking the same thing. If you want to go even further, make it so you have to choose only one effect to use, and have that be once per duel.
@Dramatic_Gaming
@Dramatic_Gaming 3 года назад
Even at 'once per duel', there were (and probably still are) ways to rip your opponent's whole hand out that only need to use each effect once. Short of nuking the effect to make the card virtually worthless, there's no way to reasonably balance it.
@MultiStormify
@MultiStormify 3 года назад
Once per duel wouldn't be enough, especially since Smoke Grenade is banworthy and it's both more difficult to use and it only gets rid of one card. I honestly can't think of a good way to balance Gumblar.
@Megamanlanprime
@Megamanlanprime 3 года назад
@@MultiStormify well one thing to compare about that is Smoke Grenade let you look at your Opponent’s Hand and Discard 1, whereas Gunblar is at random. Actually a fix I would give is make your Opponent chose the cards they pitch so it might give them advantage too.
@joanaguayoplanell4912
@joanaguayoplanell4912 3 года назад
Even that is too good, I feel. Any effect that discards or banishes cards from the hand should be eradicated It's simply way too much advantage for the player that goes first (I am looking straight at you Royal Tribute).
@theholy1191
@theholy1191 3 года назад
DuelLogs, a guy known for finding good arguments to why cards are and must stay banned, even he thinks Colossus is kind of okay. Yup, Colossus is turning into the next Stratos indeed. XD
@eavyeavy2864
@eavyeavy2864 3 года назад
He forgot Archneme
@IyoMaestro
@IyoMaestro 3 года назад
We all know that the Banlist where he was banned was to harsh and that Konami just wanted to kill all of the Meta Decks. Heck they even banned Electrumite because of Endymion and killed True Draco even though they were Tier 2 at best.
@SuperSparrow45
@SuperSparrow45 3 года назад
@@IyoMaestro And Miragestallio, Engage and Harp Horror. Engage I can at least see, because it basically became an inherent plus 1 for decks who ran a SS engine. But Mirage, Harp and Colossus can easily come back to 1.
@salara2748
@salara2748 3 года назад
Colossus to one. That’s all
@burlyfoil1022
@burlyfoil1022 3 года назад
YES!!!
@nodeberiaestaraqui93
@nodeberiaestaraqui93 3 года назад
NO
@Cameytoe
@Cameytoe 3 года назад
A friend of mine played Sky Striker and my Colossus couldn't stay on the field for more than two turns. The effect can be negated pretty easily, especially nowadays
@0mn0m15
@0mn0m15 Год назад
Oh yeah. I beat over Colossus (or at least weakened it) with my Blue-Eyes Solid Dragon.
@WarmLillie
@WarmLillie 3 года назад
I just love that ancient fairy dragon look like the good version of the barian rank up force. Like I’m imagining that it gave it power to the xyz temporarily and overtime when link became a thing it soon took back that power because it’s modern. *Lillie wears a cross between Luna and Rio outfit*
@GwenWinterheart
@GwenWinterheart 3 года назад
hey i just wanted to say these videos are really well produced and fascinating and i really appreciate the work you put into this channel's content!! it's calming to listen to and i love hearing about card interactions
@-emerald-1553
@-emerald-1553 3 года назад
I was so inspired by your Chaos Draft that I tried to do one myself. I eagerly chose MX Saber, and didn't realize it was banned until it was too late...
@sarthakarora3212
@sarthakarora3212 3 года назад
you are allowed to use banned cards no?
@-emerald-1553
@-emerald-1553 3 года назад
@@sarthakarora3212 I just chose not to, and forgot how many cards were actually banned. That's on me.
@fernandotorrero779
@fernandotorrero779 3 года назад
Draft formats generally have no ban list apply to them
@sarthakarora3212
@sarthakarora3212 3 года назад
@@-emerald-1553 most banned cards aren't actually broken in this draft, X saber will be fine.
@MrGeorge1Kin
@MrGeorge1Kin 3 года назад
You confused extralink with colink
@vm141789
@vm141789 3 года назад
Well, I suppose they could take it a step further with Gumblar by turning him from "Once per turn" to "Once per duel." Gumblar would only ever be able to take two cards from your opponent during one duel. His intended effect stays in place, and it's not nearly as abusable. Of course, anyone is free to point out the flaws in this idea. It was just a quick one off the top of my head 😅
@TheDuelLogs
@TheDuelLogs 3 года назад
yeah, probably one of the cases were a once per duel would be appropriate. Might still be too strong though if its still usable turn 1
@RhodeSchaeffer
@RhodeSchaeffer 3 года назад
M-X-Saber Invoker was also used commonly in Madolche decks as well to easily bring out Messengelato as he is a warrior type and needs to be special summoned in order to use his search effect. I used it for years in MR3 decks and even in early MR4 decks before Petting came out.
@fireheart8878
@fireheart8878 3 года назад
Ancient Fairy Dragon: I fear no field spell. But that thing, (Mystic Mine), it scares me.
@johnroberts6377
@johnroberts6377 3 года назад
Extra deck monster: Has effect where it can *special summon from the deck* Konami: We don't do that here
@Tm-oe8ch
@Tm-oe8ch 3 года назад
What? Going into azathot on your 5th summon wins you the game. Shutting down handtraps on your turn is just too easy. Ofc its a big problem. Like wdym. This card will never get powercrept. 2 level 4s on board is so easy for most decks
@alucard5841
@alucard5841 3 года назад
"thunder collossus is limited in the OCG" yeah, but the powercreep in there is a lot higher, they also have "maxx c" and "that grass looks greener". if thunder collossus wasn't that good of a flood gate, it could be unbanned, and maybe even unlimited.
@icydragon308
@icydragon308 Год назад
I kinda see why, as much as I love running thunder dragons it’s hilarious how many ppl quit when I pull tdc and tdt first turn 😂
@marocmaghrib5524
@marocmaghrib5524 3 года назад
red-eyes dark dragoon well be their soon don't worry colossus
@tkthasavage
@tkthasavage 3 года назад
Doubt that
@TailsTheFox32
@TailsTheFox32 3 года назад
As an OCG player, I can't help but say "it already is"
@BlackSmith2099
@BlackSmith2099 3 года назад
I think dragoon will be limited
@silent7159
@silent7159 3 года назад
Let's hope VFD joins them too
@michaelalberto9846
@michaelalberto9846 3 года назад
Imo, the real problem is Predaplant Anaconda. It has generic link materials (2 Effect monsters), and has a pseudo-ignoring summoning condition, as it only copies the fusion effect (Red Eyes Fusion prevents you from summoning other monsters the same turn it activates); like Halqifibrax, the card was made during Master Rule 4 in the OCG, and was released in the TCG when Master Rule 5 was enabled. Mentioned by Duellogs, Konami doesn't like to ban newly released cards, which is why the mentioned 2 are not banned yet (ex. OG Firewall Dragon was banned a year after it was released).
@AeroDragon2
@AeroDragon2 3 года назад
16:08 ain't that the truth. I was pissed when Called by the Grave got limited
@thatman666
@thatman666 3 года назад
I mean, it countered hand traps way too well. Same can be said for Red Reboot and traps.
@someguynamedsomething9612
@someguynamedsomething9612 3 года назад
Yeah it was a bit too good but meta decks rarely ran it so it really only buffs rogue decks which isn't an issue
@nodeberiaestaraqui93
@nodeberiaestaraqui93 3 года назад
Those overpriced Ghost Lolis and Drytrons had to sell, you know
@thepoweroftheweed2215
@thepoweroftheweed2215 3 года назад
If Gravekeeper Watcher could counter hand traps, it would have been limited years ago
@nodeberiaestaraqui93
@nodeberiaestaraqui93 3 года назад
@@thepoweroftheweed2215 makes me wonder if Drytrons abusing Herald of Orange Light will ever get it limited since it does both counter Handtraps and IS the Handtrap
@ShiaSpirit
@ShiaSpirit 3 года назад
18:40 that's not an extra link, that's a co-link. An extra link is when you have 5 monsters all co-linked using both extra monster zones, informally known as a u-link because it looks like a u.
@Omnicrom
@Omnicrom 3 года назад
Nyarlat into Azathot is a huge flavor win BTW, I endorse this obnoxious degeneracy.
@harryc657
@harryc657 3 года назад
Unpopular opinion: Ancient Fairy Dragon can go to 1
@theandroid5282
@theandroid5282 3 года назад
Personally, I feel the same way, but I don't play meta, I just know things about it from videos, and I do still play yugioh. I think a big problem is that Konami likes to play it safe with the banlist, even if perhaps too safe, like how Yata-Garasu is still banned. The other problem is that AFD is just a terraforming of steroids, and that card got limited. That being said, AFD is definitely one of the weaker extra-deck monsters on the banlist, and might get limited if Konami wants to finally release some support for it.
@theandroid5282
@theandroid5282 3 года назад
Point is, it might happen, but not in the near future.
@brotherhood7596
@brotherhood7596 2 года назад
Agreed
@isaiah8770
@isaiah8770 3 года назад
Colossus would be just fine at 1. The mistake effect is good, but what made it worse was that you could summon out 3 on turn 1. Although looking back, thunder dragon was really never the best deck even at its best
@josephwatson6197
@josephwatson6197 3 года назад
Very true. Orcust, sky striker and Salamangreat were all better in their prime during the time thunder was at its strongest. Colossus can come back to 1 and nothing would change except thunder players like myself will be happy
@dustinvance243
@dustinvance243 3 года назад
Fuck no. Colossus is fucking broken and should not come back unless it has the restrictions suggested in this video. The only reason it's still allowed in ocg is because ocg is control centric.
@isaiah8770
@isaiah8770 3 года назад
@@dustinvance243 you sound like someone who doesn’t have a good grasp of the meta
@dustinvance243
@dustinvance243 3 года назад
@@isaiah8770 oh I have a perfect grasp on the concept. It's abhorrent and a waste of fucking time. But back to colossus, the card is broken. You only need one card to bring it out, a one sided deck lock down is completely unfair no matter how you look at it, and the protection effect is absurdly powerful because it triggers every card in the archetype which in turn feeds back in to the protection effect! Nothing about this card was ever fair. The only people that want this stupid card back are degenerate meta cheats like you that played the damn thing.
@isaiah8770
@isaiah8770 3 года назад
@@dustinvance243 well that last sentence explains to me the type of person you are. But unfortunately i never played it, i played against it, and it wasn’t all that impressive. There’s no deck in the meta that this deck blows out or really even puts up a huge fight against if colossus is at 1. And just because it used to kill the table 500 decks that you play on edopro, doesn’t mean that its suddenly going to dominate the meta. You wanna know why? Cuz at full power this deck still wasn’t winning ycs’s, and was at best the 2nd or 3rd best deck in its format as i already said. And with just one colossus, it ain’t gonna do anything crazy.
@voidjockey82
@voidjockey82 2 года назад
So just so that I can understand this properly: The game became so fast and hectic due to how powerful new cards were that Handtraps were introduced to balance it out a bit, a horrible idea as most agree but at least it allows us to get to a turn 3 and 4 instead if every duel being decided by the second turn. And then when one card showed the fault in that system, they banned it. Yep, that prett much summarized Konami's balancing philosohpy, does it not?
@stevenceja4706
@stevenceja4706 Год назад
I swear some cards could come off the banlist and they wouldn't be that big of a problem but kunami likes to keep them there on principle such as Victory Dragon or Thunder Dragon Colossus and to top it off Red Reboot was recently banned which was the only hand trap to counter trap cards 😑
@hhaavvvvii
@hhaavvvvii 3 года назад
Fix suggestion: "This effect cannot be activated during the first two turns of the game."
@Greg501-
@Greg501- 3 года назад
But that's the ONLY 2 turns of the game
@malareon
@malareon 3 года назад
That is really specific dont you think?
@hhaavvvvii
@hhaavvvvii 3 года назад
@@malareon Not particularly. It's effect is broken during those turns but otherwise fine afterwards, so letting it not be used during the point it's broken fixes the card.
@malareon
@malareon 3 года назад
@@hhaavvvvii yes, because it would be a restriction unique to this card, and the terminology sets a precedence
@WetBoy
@WetBoy 3 года назад
Hey brother, nothing but love here, but extra linked is, to my understanding, when you have link monsters in each extra monster zone. When two link monsters are pointing to each other, they are considered colinked. When a link monster's arrow just points to another monster, it is considered linked.
@bandalodyugitube
@bandalodyugitube 2 года назад
For Gunblar, all you need to do is make it so both of its effects are ignition effects, or effects that only work during your turn. That way the card stays the way it was intended without running it to the ground
@Boristien405
@Boristien405 3 года назад
Not sure if you've done this, but a top 10 cards that go against their name (like breaker the magical Warrior not being a warrior) would be cool/funny
@SteveSpieldberg360
@SteveSpieldberg360 3 года назад
Linkuriboh is a card effect that SS, so the first Gumblar errata you suggested would prevent players from using its effect during the opponent's turn. In fact, I can't think of a single SS you can perform on the opponent's turn without activating a card effect. No need for the second errata. This also means that you would need 5 Built-In SS mechanics (pretty much your entire hand) to bring Gumblar out and use its effect turn 1, making it almost unplayable unless you're willing to wait until the next turn, which by then telegraphs your plan to the opponent to get rid of it or put their hand onto the field. Activating the effect the following turn would also prevent you from doing anything else that turn as well... so big OOF. I think the only reasonable fix is to drop the discarding to 1 max for it's non-extra link effect, then maybe have it only during your turn (the last bit is just to prevent easy hand loops from those pesky water decks). I would avoid changing its materials, since that changes the design for the "Topologic" archetype in that they're suppose to be generic powerhouses for all decks to use. Inb4 this is never read.
@Megamanlanprime
@Megamanlanprime 3 года назад
I think all of these cards except Gunblar can be changed a bit easier to fix their issues: 1. Colossus - If they just made the Summon of Colossus by its secondary condition a HOPT, that would completely make the card balanced because the issue of the card was always being able to summon multiple in 1 turn. 2. Ancient Fairy Dragon - Actually there is a MUCH easier way to fix this card then any HOPT. Just require that your Opponent has a card in their Field Zone to activate the effect to destroy all Field Spells. That way it’s effect more or less is a OPT as it’s not a Quick Effect and your Opponent shouldn’t be dumb enough to put another Field Spell in play while Ancient Fairy is on the field. 3. M-X Saber Invoker - This doesn’t need to require X-Sabers, but I think 2 Level 3 EARTH Warrior or Beast-Warrior monsters would go a far way to fix the card. The issue with Invoker is the decks that abuse the card the most usually didn’t need to burn the deck’s actual resources to make it. So with that, they now would have to have to either find an engine that fits those conditions or use their decks’ resources and can’t drop it freely. 4. For Azathot, just make the condition to turn off effects be “When this card is Xyz Summoned, except by a card effect” and that basically fixes the actual problem the card has. The Naryla thing isn’t really an issue IMO, that was actually a case of Tier 2 deck trying to stay relevant after being neutered. The issue with Azathot is it makes it harder to be able to print RUM cards without them accidentally letting any deck use Azathot, so when that’s gone there is no problem.
@EmbarasingM0ments
@EmbarasingM0ments 3 года назад
My GOODNESS, never been *this* early!! Love you, DLogs 😘
@melffyrabby1009
@melffyrabby1009 3 года назад
Thank god melffies have never been hit
@lildickyunrlsd
@lildickyunrlsd 3 года назад
It shocks me how the best deck has never been hit
@someguynamedsomething9612
@someguynamedsomething9612 3 года назад
Not yet little rabby not yet **cackling**
@felixfritsch1590
@felixfritsch1590 3 года назад
Can someone please explain to me why Ancient Fairy Dragon‘s effects are soft once per turn and how they would be written if they were hard once per turn?
@benmaske9598
@benmaske9598 3 года назад
The card would have the added text "you can only use each effect of "Ancient Fairy Dragon" once per turn." That's all. If it just says "once per turn" without listing the card name, that means the effect can be used once per turn per copy of the card you have on the field, so if you summon multiples or recycle the same one, you can use the same effect multiple times that turn. If it lists the card name while giving the once-per-turn stipulation, that means that you can use the effect only once no matter how many copies you have and how many times you summon them. Hope that makes sense.
@Sad-Lesbian
@Sad-Lesbian 3 года назад
"You can only use the effect of this card once per turn" is a soft once per turn, and means you can use the effect once per copy out. "You can only use the effect of *specific card name here* once per turn" means you can only use ome copy of that card per turn
@peteryanes9339
@peteryanes9339 3 года назад
Do you even play the game man like dumb question or u new to the game
@matthewtaylor2890
@matthewtaylor2890 3 года назад
@@peteryanes9339 Don't be a condescending prick if someone is new to, or unfamiliar with, the game. We all got told what these terms meant for the first time once.
@benmaske9598
@benmaske9598 3 года назад
@@peteryanes9339 Seriously? Padding your ego at the expense of someone with a legitimate question? If you have nothing useful to say in response to a serious question, kindly say nothing at all. Hopefully you didn't have anyone like yourself lampooning your questions when you were learning. This game has a steep learning curve and doesn't always have the most straightforward rulings.
@GiantSkyhawk
@GiantSkyhawk 3 года назад
Wasn't Azathot also being used in the Lunalight deck at the time to just turn off interaction? I think it had some other random uses but the rank up magic was probably the worst offender.
@endinessendiness7842
@endinessendiness7842 3 года назад
At the very least I used it in Lunalight. You could very easily get it out with Kaleidochick, and because you can't really respond to Kaleidochick outside of a few select cards, it made the deck really resilient to interaction. That deck was crazy. Very few things actually shut your turn down because of Kaleidochick sending as cost. You needed Ghost Ogre or Gamma to get rid of Kaleidochick and nobody plays the former to begin with and weren't playing Gamma at the time. It also wasn't a guarantee because Lunalights have a ridiculously strong resurrect spell. Droll was a pain but even then you could typically play through it depending on your hand. I miss that deck so damn much but I can understand how it was a little frustrating.
@MasterKeyblade1000
@MasterKeyblade1000 3 года назад
Outer Entity card art look like Magic TG cards
3 года назад
They really do, but the artwork is something else on them. It's a shame at least two of their cards are banned
@yanderenejoyer
@yanderenejoyer 3 года назад
Makes sense. They *are* out of this world after all.
@kipp14
@kipp14 3 года назад
The only way to fix gumblar is to have ot be 3+ effect monsters with different names and ban linkuriboh as well. A complete retrain that only works going first and only discards one on summon would be safer
@chaosezel1044
@chaosezel1044 3 года назад
I think, for Topologic Gumblar Dragon, better to slap another restriction for any of its effects like slapping in "You can only use this effect if your opponent's hand cards are 6 or less" or something like that. Or give it some kind of ridiculous cost to activate it, like banishing 10 cards face down from your deck at the usage of either effect.
@danielrogers7098
@danielrogers7098 3 года назад
Azathot was also being used in ftks to make it so your opponent can't stop you.
@JojishiAMVs
@JojishiAMVs 3 года назад
Topologic Gunblar dragon might be fixed by given both of the effects a shared once per duel effect. So the player has to choose which of the effects is gonna be used, and after that effect resolves it's basically a vanilla link monster.
@JaunPaun
@JaunPaun 3 года назад
I miss you Colossus...
@GearGuardianGaming
@GearGuardianGaming 3 года назад
Suggestion: top 10 cards to receive the most errattas. A lot of people dont know how many times some cards have been erratta'd. Example: Necrovalley has been erratta'd 7X
@IyoMaestro
@IyoMaestro 3 года назад
He has already made that video.
@cbrycem
@cbrycem 3 года назад
I think you confused extra link and co link for gumblar
@ceasebenjaminbeast3947
@ceasebenjaminbeast3947 3 года назад
"For those of you who don't understand link monsters very well" the person who doesn't understand link monsters very well
@luigiye6243
@luigiye6243 Год назад
Since the extra link effect of gumblar isn't the problem (if it becomes, then the rest of extra link must be cyberse/dragon monsters), I think that the other effect make it that the special summoned monster that this card points to must be on the opponent's field (by your opponent owned card, if it's really necessary avoid knightmare corrupor iblee or token summon shenanigans) +mirrorjade like restriction (activable once every 2 turns)
@voltingmaster5458
@voltingmaster5458 3 года назад
Topologic Gumblar Dragon was so broken that not even a hard once per turn restriction could stop it from hitting the banlist.
@griffingower1883
@griffingower1883 3 года назад
That's not his fault it's Gandora X's fault
@voltingmaster5458
@voltingmaster5458 3 года назад
@@griffingower1883 but which Banlist Is Gandora X On?
@griffingower1883
@griffingower1883 3 года назад
@@voltingmaster5458 he's not on any of the lists he's the reason Gumblar dragon got banned because of a OTK that involved Gandora X
@ratioed1438
@ratioed1438 2 года назад
Looking back at Azathot, wouldn't a simpler solution to fixing the card be to change it's rank to something awkward like 12? That would probably kill off the rank up strat.
@jamesissocool
@jamesissocool 3 года назад
I watch DuelLogs when eating and its relaxing. I haven't played Yugioh in years but it nice to see what's new
@13KuriMaster
@13KuriMaster 3 года назад
My thoughts on how to balance these cards with Errata's: 1) Probably, nerf the protection effect... make it so you banish the cards face-down, and cut it so that it can't protect itself from what Titan can't protect itself from... if it needs more, I would start aiming for either the lockdown effect or it's ease of access. 2) Hard once per turn... if that isn't enough, then delay the search part of the effect to the end phase. 3) I guess, negate the effects of the summoned monster and make it so you can't activate the effects of any card of the summoned monster's name that turn? 4) ... make it so that the convoluted amount of Xyz materials is needed for the monster stopping effect in addition to the board wiping effect? After all, that effect is the one that needs nerfing. 5) It's the hand wiping effect here..... Hmm, make it so that it has to be 1 card at a time instead of up to 2 at a time (but you still have to pay 2 of your cards to use it). Also, Banish the cards from your hand (face-down) so Phoenix Blade can't endlessly recycle itself as fodder.
@blazejecar
@blazejecar 3 года назад
how gumblar dragon could be fixed: Just wait a couple years for the game to power creep so much it doesn't matter
@geiseric222
@geiseric222 3 года назад
Hand looping has been relevant for twenty years and gumblar is actually much less powerful than old hand loop
@IyoMaestro
@IyoMaestro 3 года назад
Hand looping will always be strong. I don't know what you think will happen that the card wouldn't be broken anymore but if the game gets faster and more cards get added Gumblar just becomes easier to summon, the effects get easier to trigger and it is getting easier to OTK the opponent on the following turn and you could protect your board more easily too. Cards like Forceful Sentury only got better over the years and will only get better in the future. Even Trishula is still limited and that's a card from 2011. The only saving grace could be that there could be more counters to these kind of cards but just because there are counters doesn't make the card any less unfair. Maybe if there would be even more good grave effects the card would be less effective but this would help the Gumblar player too, so that probably wouldn't do anything. At most, something big like a rule change could make a difference.
@kikaioshin6700
@kikaioshin6700 3 года назад
Still waiting for the power creep to fix Delinquent Duo...
@luis1237
@luis1237 3 года назад
I love these cards
@venciatanasov5496
@venciatanasov5496 Год назад
Simple fix for topologic gumblar dragon: instead of you discarding cards from your hand now you must banish them facedown and the effect can only be used durning your turn.
@matthewhaffner4416
@matthewhaffner4416 2 года назад
For M-X-Saber Invoker, they could change its materials to be 2 level 3 EARTH monsters. They could probably instantly unban it overnight if they did that considering how much it worked for Goyo Guardian
@TheEnigma6
@TheEnigma6 3 года назад
As someone coming from MTG, what's a good resource for learning the game? Like going over turn steps, spell speed, when the player has 'priority', how cards are played/set, how effects(like flip) work, extra deck monster stuff, etc. Ideally one that uses MTG terms to describe stuff.
@jacobluneberg597
@jacobluneberg597 3 года назад
the rule book is usually a good start, most simulators have puzzles and ruling duels to help people learn, but yeah read the rulebook and go from there
@TooMuchDad
@TooMuchDad 3 года назад
You could try making topological gumblar dragon’s affect only be able to be activated in the main phase 2? That way it always can only happen on the second turn of the game, and after both players have gotten to play to some degree
@midnightthoughts2422
@midnightthoughts2422 3 года назад
Maybe giving Gumblar both a "you can only use this effect on your turn" and "during the turn you activate this effect you can't make your opponent discard cards, except by Topologic Gumblar Dragon" would fix it, since it would actually encourage doing extralink to take away 4 cards from your opponent, always leaving them with 2 cards to do their plays, it's broken, but much more difficult to set up
@P.I.M.P.
@P.I.M.P. 3 года назад
Changing gumblar dragon's effect to "if another monster is special summoned to a zone THIS card points to" with once per duel could be the solution
@mateusrp1994
@mateusrp1994 3 года назад
Once per duel restrictions aren't good when the effect is so broken getting it off only once is enough, and discarding 2 cards from the opponent's hand is definitely that kind of effect. The part about being a zone Gumblar points to, instead of any Link monster, is a good idea though.
@P.I.M.P.
@P.I.M.P. 3 года назад
@@mateusrp1994 thank you
@KnightManCross
@KnightManCross 3 года назад
What about if you restrict the link arrow area effect to be only activated on the owners standby phase and the cards from the owners hand are banished, while the opponent only discards?
@alucard5841
@alucard5841 3 года назад
gumblar could restrict you from adding cards to your hand, this way it's a fair trade, you lose two cards, and your opponet also loses 2. also those chave their graveyard effects negated
@rohmansaepurohman3413
@rohmansaepurohman3413 3 года назад
Make Topologic Gumblar's effects can only be activated once while it is face-up on the field besides it's hard once per turn restriction, and/or change the discarding effect, so you need to discard monsters instead of random cards with another restriction which make any discarded monster's effect cannot be activated, or make each of it's effect once per duel.
@griffingower1883
@griffingower1883 3 года назад
Which is all the time as you can't set link monsters in defense
@mlp_firewind8129
@mlp_firewind8129 3 года назад
I feel bad for the entity archetype. It’s a super cool set of cards but one third of them are banned because of their interactions with completely different archetypes. I would love to see them get more support and get norden and azathot off the ban list but that’s probably not going to happen. But a man can dream.
@howlingzangetsu
@howlingzangetsu 3 года назад
For M-X-Saber I say if you could only summon earth warrior or earth beast-warrior monsters from the extra deck during the turn you use it’s effect (both before and after) would fix it from being abused without overly changing what it can already do
@peteryanes9339
@peteryanes9339 3 года назад
Yup or all together
@nodeberiaestaraqui93
@nodeberiaestaraqui93 3 года назад
So I've just learned that Phoenix Blade enabled so many degenerate combos (Airblade Turbo, Infernobles, Topologic Gumblar) that it's a surprise they didn't banned yet. Whatever year it is, it just manages to come back with another broken move
@rfgenius1223
@rfgenius1223 3 года назад
Now I’m scared. I never knew Goukis in their prime were really strong and I started using them in late 2020
@brotherhood7596
@brotherhood7596 2 года назад
Firewall Dragon boosted their power greatly
@ungulatemanalpha
@ungulatemanalpha 3 года назад
If Gumblar required you to special summon to a zone IT pointed to rather than any link monster, that would have helped keep it in check during master rule 4. Not so much now, though.
@thebabypluto
@thebabypluto 3 года назад
So in regards to Azathot, you said that keep its original summoning condition would be fine, but that would make it susceptible to be abused by cyber dragons or decks that can fit in cards like cyber dragon, red layer, or any cards that can easily change their level
@seangabrielsen9458
@seangabrielsen9458 3 года назад
How do we start a petition to get ancient fairy unbanned ( and maybe simi limited)
@peteryanes9339
@peteryanes9339 3 года назад
Nope ppl only play 1 back then n always will no need to be at that it 3 or ban
@seangabrielsen9458
@seangabrielsen9458 3 года назад
@@peteryanes9339 just unban the damn dragon it's
@DLH112
@DLH112 3 года назад
gumblar is broken but maybe could come back because 1. The combos used with it were pretty much all enabled by Firewall Dragon and 2. with MR5 there is very little upside to a dedicated extra-link strategy.
@tagt.4993
@tagt.4993 3 года назад
Topologic Gumblar Dragon was disgusting with Merlantean Hand Loop decks. Banish a card from their hand with Deep Sea Sentry, discard two more with Moulinglacia, knock another two with Topologic, and then when your opponent’s turn started and they got their banished card back, make them discard it with Desert Locust out of Crystron Halqifibrax. Either they start with one card their turn, or you snipe that one too with PSY-Frame Omega 🙌🙌🙌
@Megamanlanprime
@Megamanlanprime 3 года назад
Um... an Extra Link is where you have Link monsters all pointing at each other in a way where you can use both Extra Monster Zones. What you explained is a Link monster being linked. Also Gunblar is was made Dark Warrior decks exist too.
@Ocsttiac
@Ocsttiac 3 года назад
He actually explained "co-linked".
@borederlands5387
@borederlands5387 3 года назад
Uh bro isn't that a co-link
@cardjar5149
@cardjar5149 3 года назад
TOP 10 Cyber-stein targets
@ithrowstuffinavideogame
@ithrowstuffinavideogame 3 года назад
They could change topologic gumblar dragon so it's first discard effect is activated when it is summoned and the second effect once per turn but it can not be activated the turn it is summoned
@TheMapleTurtle
@TheMapleTurtle 3 года назад
If they made a Master Rule change that made it so that you cannot make your opponent discard on turn 1, it would balance a lot of the banned discard cards.
@user-zf4if6op2c
@user-zf4if6op2c 3 года назад
Pls don‘t bring Colossus back Konami... This Card is fckng insane. You can‘t search and get rid of this tower Monster. I hate decks which always have only one extremely powerful card bringing them to the top meta. Just like how it was with Gateaway of the six.
@extremepillows
@extremepillows 3 года назад
I wonder if konami watch this kinda video, and then change the card the way he mentioned so they're unbanned...
@TheDuelLogs
@TheDuelLogs 3 года назад
That would be real funny if they did lol
@MarvelSnapAddicted
@MarvelSnapAddicted 3 года назад
Correction on your proposal about putting a hard once per turn on each of the effects of Ancient Fairy Drag, i suggest even better option, and that is putting a once per duel On Each effect, and using only one of them once per duel, wich means he won't be abke to use both effects at once or each one of them 2 turns in row, only one of them per duel
@IyoMaestro
@IyoMaestro 3 года назад
I think Ancient Fairy Dragon could probably come back at least to 1. Masterplan and Destrudo are banned so you have no easy access to the card anymore and the deck that got the most benefits while looping their field spell is dead. Bad FTK decks shouldn't be a problem either especially if it is at 1 so that you have to jump through a lot more hoops if you wanted to FTK. And a hard once per turn on it's effects should be enough of a fix at the moment if you really want to give it an Errata, especially if there isn't a Meta Deck that could effectively loop the card or if you really want to future proof the card make it so you can only use one of it's effects per turn and only once that turn but I really don't think that an Errata is necessary while the other cards stay banned. Or am I missing something here? Could you please name a deck that could easily make the card in which it would be broken?
@Adrahoth
@Adrahoth 3 года назад
Idea for fixing Topologic Gunblar Dragon: double the cost to discard 2 cards: you discard four to make your opponent discard 2.
@DivineDragonFelgrand
@DivineDragonFelgrand 3 года назад
I know full well that Thunder Dragon Colossus was banned because that "Nemesys" Thunder monster was coming and so every deck could play Colossus outside it's archetype, that's why.
@silent7159
@silent7159 3 года назад
Colossus is a in a weird place for me. I see why people say it can come back. It shakes up the meta. My biggest problem is that it is very oppressive to rouge decks that can't out it very easily. Sure you can just negate the effect with droplets or imperm, but 1. You won't always have those in hand and 2. They are still very pricey and most people can't afford them. People are already complaining about the game being practically single player, and Colossus feels like that a lot of the time
@SkillzKiller1
@SkillzKiller1 3 года назад
I want a more thunder dragon support in duel links but......that won't happen
@Sillimant_
@Sillimant_ 3 года назад
You're absolutely right. It won't happen.
@chuckmorris5886
@chuckmorris5886 2 года назад
I always used Ancient Fairy Dragon when it was released in Dragunity to use Dragon Ravine again and was really surprised to see it banned. Now that I'm more active in the game again I definitely understand why, but it was still a shocker, having my friend tell me I can't play Fairy anymore
@MasterofLaziness
@MasterofLaziness 3 года назад
I'm surprised you didn't go for the Thousand Eyes Restrict comparison over El Shaddoll Construct, considering it's the posterboy of going from banned to powercrept. Guess you wanted something for more modern fans.
@adrianaconques5035
@adrianaconques5035 11 месяцев назад
Again .....would colossus be so tough if agathot, heroic champ rongo bongo , victory or even newly banned Arise heart were potential opponents? The first roll to go first would be the most heat of the game 😅
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