"Their stuff will die, your stuff will die, and if the great horned rat wills it, your last few surviving units can scurry over and get the cheese." LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO
@@carsonperry6443 may I suggest you go to the nearest witch hunter and hand yourself in as a heretic, before I decide that you can live in the forest with the beastmen
I’m super new to the hobby, have never played a “real” game of warhammer (have played with my friends units against said friend) and fell in love with Skaven!! Now I have 2360 points worth of rats to paint xd I don’t have a clue on what I’m doing so I’m definitely a great Skaven general!!
@@Milenos no, you blame your subordinates. Blaming your superiors is only done when gloating over their recently accidentally brutally dismembered corpse.
**GHB2020 Update: A bunch of points changed slighty, some up and some down, but the big story is stormvermin are sweet now! However, no realm artefacts any longer :(
@@absolutelyloyalspacemarine1684 They're not just "based on" them, they are them. The Legendary Lords in TWW are actual characters from Warhammer Fantasy. It's just that after the End Times, many of those named character models were repurposed to be generic heroes instead, since (unlike Thanquol, Alarielle, Morathi, Mannfred, etc.) most of the Warhammer Fantasy heroes didn't survive the apocalypse.
So I see the Skaven once again foiled Nagash’s schemes and ironically saved the world in AoS just as they did in Fantasy lol. (Side note I can’t say I like hearing they are “almost immune to battle shock”, as Skaven’s cowardlyness has always been a key racial trait)
They are very cowardly with horrendous bravery scores, so that carries through, but their leaders have strong ways of keeping them in line provided the leaders are alive.
HeyWoah oh I see, I guess that’s cool then since it at least gives the opponent the opportunity to go after the leaders to start a classic Skaven route.
Like Tyranids, they're dependent on aura buffs to render them immune to battle shock, and the moment they lose those they scatter like... well, rats fleeing a sinking ship.
Right? I love playing against the Gloomspite Gitz/Trogz for a similar reason.... that reason being its always a totally chaotic, fly-by-the-seat-of-your-tatters comedy... tragic comedy
@@derekzimmermann2551 Ha! That is a great way you put that. For me, Skaven was also my first opponent (former High Elf player), and for that reason they have a bit of a nostalgic piece as well. Not to mention that with Skaven (like Gloomspite) anything, and I mean anything can happen! Great times.
Funny and easy to digest AOS content for new players? This needs more-more likes yes-yes. Eager to see the rest of them, maybe an extremely over the top laughing-fit inducing one for the Lumineth after the book comes out(given the intial reaction).
Really glad you're doing this. Through thick and thin, the skaven have always been the army of my heart because I once laid eyes upon the doomwheel. Such a fantastic range. Fantastic lore. So full of character. More MORE youtube strategies, yes!
As a new player to AOS and a fledgling Skaven player, I’ve been waiting for this video and the list video. You always give great information and insight into each faction.
You picked fantastic army brother.... don't be discouraged because it is a harder force to master, but the rewards are boundless. Play with retreat and charge with your clanrats and stormvermin a bit.... notice how much flexibility it can give you in the middle of the game. Swap targets, obfuscate with rat bodies, yes yes. Then murder-kill with WARP weapons!
Even before the battletome came out its such a fun and wild army to play you always have a fun game. Now they very much have the sharp teeth to bite hard with.
As a long time player and an owner of close to 11,000 points of Skaven this video is really quite good. I do think the verminlord's are way overrated and the doomwheel isn't as bad as he says but overall, a great introduction and very astute considering I don't think he plays the army. If you want a top level analysis of Skaven I'd watch AoS Coach's last video with Dan Brewer. I find myself agreeing with everything Dan says except that Stormvermin were good at the time -- they still hadn't had their points lowered at that point. ^^ Best of luck and a fond welcome and (get to work fool-meat!) from your friendly neighborhood grey seer. (Also if you want to get into the lore there are a ton of great novels set in the Old World featuring Skaven that are hilarious, great reads.
Remember the power of the Screaming Bell: if you roll a thirteen on two dice you automatically win. The rules don't specify that it has to be two fair dice.
There is an unlimited amount of reasons to play skaven but ill watch it for enjoyment anyway just discovering your channel. Ultimately... its such a fiercley thematic, unique and perfectly executed faction that it single handedly makes AoS and the fantasy settings in general objectively superior to 40k while they continue to not exist, in the future.
This is the line I’ve always thought the lore and models are super cool but I could never get into, just something about them. These are always great videos HeyWoah
... It's a giant monowheel with spikes powered by hell-lightning generated from evil magic plutonium and piloted by a crackheaded rat-man who's been snorting leftover magic plutonium dust and now has the munchies for _fresh roadkill_ and _more evil magic plutonium._ Of course it's the best!
I remember wanting to play The OG Warhammer in High school. Never had the funds or time. Skaven we’re always going to be my dudes. Got into painting miniatures as just a hobby. But might end up fucking around and get a box of rat boys.
I would love to know how often Skaven tunnels run into Gloomspite tunnels. Is that one of the reasons why the ratmen have yet to come above ground to murder everyone? they are in an eternal war against the gitz with endless fronts to defend?
Hello, I'm new to Age of Sigmar. I was just wondering what "elite" means in the context of the game as I find that it's somewhat used negatively? Thank you.
Elite means low model count compared to horde which means high model count. It's generally a bad thing, as capturing objectives is by number of models nearby (by default - some battleplans differ).
By the way mate, you should totally be consulted or at least the people at GW should watch your content when they are considering balance changes. Such a concise and measured analysis
With the new ghb skaven points leak, what do you think of the changes? With how you cant stack multiple damage shrugs anymore, do you think verminlords should have gone down?
Yes I do. I will note that double shrugs on verminlord wasn't terribly problematic balance-wise imo because they are largely just buff wagons. It's not like their immortality was enabling a ghoul king on royal terrorgeist style 'solo half an army' monster, it was just a utility wizard that was very hard to kill. As such, only a minor cost reduction to some, something like: Corruptor 270, Deceiver 280, Warbringer 270, Warpseer 300.
The only reason why I don't play them is because so many of their models are old (although some are really awesome). If the models were newer I'd play them in a hearbeat
I think most of them are fine, but some just look like they're from a different tabletop game. Especially gutter runners and warplock jezzails for example. Suddenly they have completely different looking faces from the rest of the range.
As the next video will likely be about army lists, can you please talk about budget armies and more leite (low model count) armies that do not need that many models.
With the GHB imminent, I simply have to skip list shows for a few weeks. The next few factions will add some model count and playstyle diversity against those done so far!
Not true, we've fallen a lot since our codex release and subsequent nerf. You'd have much more success with: Fyreslayers, OBR, Tzeench, FEC and arguably DoK and Slaanesh. They're firmly mid-low A tier though, and I could see arguments either way for DoK/Slaanesh. Skaven aren't all that easy to play either, many of the above armies are much easier to pilot. Any positional errors are more heavily punished than a lot of other armies, and the units (bar Verminlord/Stormfiends, meta wise) are individually kinda weak. That and two of our worst match ups are currently S tier and very over-tuned; OBR/Tzeench. We cannot deal with Mortal spam and 3+ Mortek spam. As for "why?" I've been collecting Skaven since just before Sigmar dropped originally (and playing the entire time we were garbage until the new book :P), I was instantly drawn to them after a cursory look in fantasy lore. They're IMO the most interesting and fun race in lore, and on the tabletop they have so many options and potential playstyles (not accounting for vaiblity of said playstyles).
@@gangstalker47 If 3 paragraphs is a "book", you don't read many books, huh? ;) I gotta defend my boys, we're still getting a lot of shit for how the Warp Lightning Vortexes (vortices?) were on release! haha.
How accurate would you consider the total war games as a way to understand a lot of table top? I understand that the stats are different and there are some rules changes, but I think that what you're describing are exactly how they play in total war.
I had a 100 man seer council at one point, I understand the $15 a model rule and two squads of wraithguard, apocalipse games could take upwards of an hour to set up my army.... memories. I'm glad I quit just before the game changed for the worst to me.
Question: is there a viable Clan Skryre list? I heard stuff about the Stormfiends but some people say that they're useless now since they can't specialize in 1 weapon anymore. Are they worth it compared to say Clanrats+Stormvermin for the same amount of points?
Stormfiends are good (they'll never be useless at their current points value and buff potential). The specialize in one weapon was cheesy and everyone knew that it wasn't the intended loadout. IMO 40/20/20 clan rats are the best battle line (40/40/20 clan rats is still good, 40/40 clan rats plus 40 stormvermin is awesome too) for clans skryre. Gives enough bodies to prevent your opponent from murdering your soft squishy bits.
With the die off of 40k towards the end of 8th edition and into 9th edition it seems locally at least AoS has now been declared to be much better than 40k. Which is surprising since prior to just recently AoS was non-existent locally.
Hey heywoah, Im really just getting into age of Sigmar and I hope you can do one of these for Orruks or beast claw raiders soon these is the best video series I’ve found
No! - I stopped doing list shows because it's either that or the next entire faction focus and I want to get to all the armies. However I do sample lists and stuff on patreon and sometimes on the twitch stream, and sometimes elsewhere if it's a slow work day
60point glass cannons that either do everything or do nothing. A buffed up ratling cannon can do something like 14-20 damage easily. A few of them plus a good screen make melee only armies lie awake at night with visions of their marauders just dying en masse like WWI trench warfare. However if an enemy even sniffs in their direction, they die. Also they're 1 model units so you buff them up individually as opposed to like a full unit of 6 jezzails getting super buffed. I like them. The ratling guns on stormfiends can do less damage (fewer shots at 3d6 rather than 2d6*2) but they're a much more resilient model. Overall, just like the rest of clan skryre, take em if you want to push the red button, but don't be salty when you roll snake eyes and your super buffed ratling gun just blows up.
Skaven are criminally under represented and not updated nearly as often or as grandly as they deserve. I'd do Skaven if they had a new range... But, it's a moot point since 3D printing exists and GW hates Skaven, Beasts of Chaos, Dwarves in general, and that's for sure...
Skaven are life! Skaven don't backstab. They honorably take suicidal tasks and are always ready to scrifice themselves for thr greater g.. for the tribe. Stop the anti-Skaven propaganda!
Just yesterday I saw a leak of the Skaven Battletome. There is new: 1 per every 10 clanrats can be a standard bearer. And one for every 10 can be a Musician. You know what? I've been thinking for a long time. This is the rule I will apply now to my Warhammer Age of Sigmar hobby forever. It doesn't matter what GW says later. Now for every 10 any models in ANY UNITS I will make a musician/standard bearer. Even at Night Grots. Because it's so cool! Try to stop me! ***Unless the rules suggest one model out of 5, of course.
