Unfortunately, today we lost the actor who voiced Mr. House. R.I.P. Rene Auberjonois. He was well Known as Odo from Star Trek DS9 as well as well as roles in Boston Legal and Benson.
The shock of finding the real house for the first time damn it's like finding out cartoons weren't real. My 15 year old mind just thought he was an AI or something, damn this is dark.
@@eustacebagge5873 bethesda fallout is terrible, I think the ones made by black isle studios and obsidian where wayyyyy better. Than again Im someone who got hooked on fallout 1 & 2 as a kid.
@@davelastname8074 That's because Black Isle Studios and Obsidian are the same people, just different companies after the publisher has gone under. Bethesda, on the other hand, is being brutally murdered by Todd Howard's lack of understanding of game design. Morrowind was so successful because they literally pitched the game as similar to Star Wars to him and he didn't participate in the design at all.
Mr. House is cutthroat, but when you bring up that you are here on behalf of Ceaser's Legion, he truly is horrified at the prospect of what nightmares the Legion will create in the future.
Well, that's... one way to kill Mr. House. I always just preferred the tried and tested "Golf Club to the Face" Method. ...A man chooses. A slave obeys.
The thing I found funny about that achievement is that it implies that it's not your choice. Jack didn't kill Ryan because of personal gain or ideological reasons, but because he was brainwashed by a self-serving con man who pretended to care about the collective while just using them to gain power for himself. You never chose to kill Mr. House, you were told to by either a monomaniacal hypocrite, a corrupt war criminal, or the vanity product of the man who tried to put you down.
To be honest, if Mr House wasn't so rude and pretentious when asking for the chip and just asked me nicely I wouldn't have the urge to kill him in the first place.
Well, I can completely understand him in this situation. With help of his own inventions HE saved part of Las Vegas named New Vegas after nuclear war and it's HIS goal that New Vegas didn't become a part of Mojave wastelands. I'd love to see YOUR reaction when someone is not giving your invention you waited so much for two hundred years =)
I think most of us would get mad when a courier tell you they don't want to give you your package, and in this case the package seems a touch more important than our everyday delivery, so I totally understand he become this mad when teased. On other hand throwing a tantrum don't helps indeed.
I love how roleplaying games turns people into just complete psychopaths lmao Covered in blood with a bent golf club in hand "he shouldve just asked nicely"
Dronk le Dégénérer In any case Mr House happens to suffer unbearable pain,he may get one of his Securitrons to press the kill switch or anyone human,really
Lyoko104 You've got me there. It's most likely that Obsidian didn't put a whole heap of thought into it and just wanted something to act as a kill command.
The guy spends 150 years looking for the platinum chip instead of using his vast wealth and intellect to build a new one/jailbreak the securitrons. It’s weird they never address this.
Colin Campbell the system is designed that it cannot be jacked or accessed without the code. Not even mr house has a save of the code. He could replicate it if he had access to his vault, but since Caesar’s legion is atop it he cannot get access to it to override it, hence why he needs the chip
"I am Robert House, and I am here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No,' says the man in Washington, 'it belongs to the Brotherhood of Steel.' 'No,' says the man in the Colorado, 'it belongs to Caesar.' 'No,' says the man in California, 'it belongs to Politician.' I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... New Vegas. A city where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality, where the great would not be constrained by the small. And with the sweat of your brow, Vegas can become your city, as well."
FrostbittenMelon Yeh, read somewhere that steampunk is a genre were technology is more advanced than it should on the year the events of the game/book/movie take place in. But now that i looked it up properly it seems it's not exactly like that... perhaps the word i'm looking for for Fallout is "retrofuturistic".
poor old house.. he should of stored his conciousness in a robot itself like the dude from Deux ex instead of risking it all and extending his own biological body in that chamber
Angella Allison-Davis One of the plot conveniences being the courier is shot in the head but luckily there’s a doctor nearby who just so happens to be proficient in brain surgery. A plot hole being Mr House spending two hundred years looking for the platinum chip instead of using his vast wealth and intellect to either create a new chip or hack the securitrons to the Mark 2 OS. There’s also the issue of Caesar just rolling with a female courier but that’s player dependant.
@@colin-campbell I think the female courier thing can be attributed to how much of badass ceaser considered you to be. But i see your point. Does seem very odd
Colin Campbell Doc Mitchell lived in a Vault so yeah he’d know advanced surgery if he was a medical expert living in a Vault. And after rewatching the intro cinematic not only is Benny firing from the hip meaning he isn’t able to line up his shot but the gun is offset slightly to his left meaning with enough luck the bullet while being able to severely wound, wouldn’t kill if it entered the head from that angle.
That's the last time I hack a terminal and break into someone's secret room just so I can find stuff to steal. I wondered when my greed would get me in trouble (again). After I saw this part, I immediately shut the PS3 off and took a break. It freaked me out that much. I had no idea what to think. I'd thought he was just a computer man up till that point.
Not Imagine you ordered a pizza, you wait 200 years for it, finally some new courier agrees to take it to you 2 centuries later, only to find out he doesn't wants to give it to you for no reason. Yeah i'd be pretty pissed.
But it's the only pizza. A pizza that can change the world. You wouldn't want to share that pizza with a man who wouldn't share it back. They hardly paid the tip.
@@TheAbbeyoftheEveryman Mr House forced Doc Mitchell and his wife to leave their vault, and disease killed Doc’s wife since they hadn’t left in so long. House filled the vault with concrete, and you can see what’s left of it at the strip.
@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd Well Doc Mitchell does save your life for no gain, while Mr House only helps anyone for profit, which is evident by Victor having never helped anyone before. Also, Doc Mitchell and his wife hadn't done anything wrong, while House isn't so innocent. I also killed him because he wants you to kill the Brotherhood of Steel and he kills the Kings in most endings.
His little feet done it for me. So limp and helpless like a babies feet. I was so horrified I reloaded instantly and followed his quest line. But I couldnt bear to blow up the Brotherhood bunker either so i never finished the game lol.
Upon the release week, when I was playing this as kid, there was a bug that when you tapped interact more than once, the animation went super fast and started talking instantly, well, Mr. House turboed himself out of his tomb in miliseconds and I was horrified because I had no idea he was Mr. House, I didn't even read dialogue, just thought it was some sort of an experience and I'll meet more down the path but no, it was just supercharged animation. And of course, Mr. House himself.
@@dogman5220 It would've been a funny personality trait for a fallout game character like him if wasn't a bug lmao; get this: *boing* House: "See my pain? See what I have gone through?" Wanderer gets speech option: "*sigh* So you wanted this stupid chip right?" *spit radscorpion*
Or why not program passwords on the terminals, put automatic turrets in the control room, or have an emergency lockdown in his tower. All the Courier had to do is open doors, and he literally had a terminal in front of his chamber with a big button that says OPEN CHAMBER. Maybe House wasn't so smart after all.
Considering the fact that this is House, he probably realized the odds of someone storming the Lucky 38, defeating his Robots in some way, shape, or form, hacking into his secret vault, and then trying to kill him were too minimal to bother preparing some sort of defense for that scenario. The only thing he didn't factor in was that someone actually could pull that off.
@@HoleDiggingJanitor Yes man is just that - yes-man. He has literally no agency himself and is a program that does what you tell it to do, and nothing more. The main reason Mr. House is uncomparingly better than Courier with his Yes Man access point is the very fact that Mr. House knows the questions to ask and the missing part that the user must think himself about.
It's a shame that this scene wasn't thought out more. Clearly this is one of the things that was rushed during development. It is WAY too easy to kill Mr. House in this game. The only thing that stands between you and him are two securitrons, which you can just rush past without even trying to fight and they don't even follow you. No passwords, no locked doors, not even turrets. It's actually embarrassing, considering that Mr. House is supposed to be a very pragmatic individual who thinks of everything.
I always found it interesting that his hair still grew while he was in there, but its not as long as 200 years would imply perhaps he simply slowed his aging? Or did he look like that going in lol!
Yeah the guy who lets freeside rot, disables Victor from helping in the goodsprings gunfight, and kicked vault 21 residents out of their home is such a great guy
I just saw this guy. It was the freakiest thing I'd ever seen. This is why immortality sucks. I was wary of him because of President Eden but I never imagined this. He's kinda like Agrippa in Amnesia.
I just wish there was a way to complete House's quest WITHOUT killing the Brotherhood. I'm running a pacifist build, and it sucks that I can't complete the game one way or another without someone dying (either House or the Brotherhood). I wish with a high enough Speech, you could convince House to let the Brotherhood be, or convince them to leave. Something other than them getting wiped out.
SgtSmudge there's a mod for that (if you're into it) called BrotherhoodHouseAlliance on Nexus. It's a must have for me since I hate it as well that in the vanilla game "we" can't spare BoS
Originally you had the option to persuade House to keep the BoS through a really high speech check, but it was cut from the game-- likely because of time.
The first time I did this, the animation glitched, and I was standing there waiting.. then all of a sudden, the animation plays at like 2x speed and Mr House's decrepit ass pops out at me, sputtering and moaning. Even when the game glitches, it's part of the experience.
I remember the first time I saw mr.house, I was watching my brother play when I was 9 and I was just like "WHAT ON GODS EARTH IS THAT!" It was really horrifying at the time
When I saw him in my game, I was actually horrified at what he is now. I decided to take away his controls, but leave him alive. However, everyone stated that House has died. I can only assume that his age finally caught up to him or the NCR decided to finish the job themselves and executed him.
He literally tells you he considers that a fate worse than death. He's not connected to any part of his extended body. He's trapped alone, too weak to escape and probably blind from cataracts, nothing to eat or drink, sickening to death because his immune system stopped working a century ago.
I feel as though the player choices leading up to house's fate determine the level of success the courier would find as an independent leader of New Vegas. The Three families and kings could all be prosperous, loyal followers to you before you ever confront house. The NCR or legion could both also be close allies to the courier, in addition to powder gangers, Khans, Primm, Goodsprings, Boomers, Etc. With all of these factions owing allegiance to the courier, there is no reason the courier couldn't easily bring about a prosperous new era to the Mojave via his/her army of virtually infallible securitrons and his/ her willingness to be benevolent. willingness
I think what a lot of people don't know, which I didn't even know you could get a perk for doing was that, if you killed Mr. House with a Lead Pipe or whatever, you get a perk for it. I forget the name of it, but you get a perk for doing so.
From my understanding, he saw things in VR, basically. So he really only was connected to his body biologically, but he saw through the securitrons and his computer. And his body was given life Support just to stay alive, so probably having minerals/nutrients pumped into him.
@@bdidbwvolume2.230 The VR part isn't the near-eye display we have today (I doubt he would see well lol). But full-dive virtual reality realised through brain-computer interface (called cerebral interface in the game) where all your senses are replaced with a virtual feed. Basically living inside the virtual world.
Frozen storm The independence ending is a recipe for disaster. The courier doesn't have a good plan nor does he/she know how to run a town, and also when i played through the independence ending i also got a bit suspecting towards yes man and his upgrade.
+Mr33500 Exactly. Instead of allowing the guy who waited two centuries for the perfect time to enact his plan, showing off his godly strategic mind, the guy who could've rebuilt New Vegas with exact calculations from his computers, the guy who could hold off two armies with securitrons BUILT BEFORE the nukes ever happened... Instead of all of that, the player decides to be vain and screw humanities last hope.
+GothaBillsAndDeath To be fair, it could work if the player has intelligence of 6 or more. And House can't be trusted either. Also, Yes Man was just simply upgrading himself to only obey the Courier (you know, to fix his major design flaw).
pepper Mill Could it? I doubt it. Conquering a city is a whole different thing than ruling one. Even if it could it would not run nearly as smoothly compared to if House ruled. And the player character and Yes Man can be trusted? No he was not just simply upgrading himself to obey the Courier. Yes Man found some code snippets in House's databanks that allows him to reprogram himself. He even says it will make him more assertive.
I did that lol. I really supported Mr house and wanted to follow his quest line, but when he told me to kill the brotherhood and wouldn't budge I couldn't go through with it. I then took him out so I could get yes man up and running and ensure the brotherhood stay lol.
You could choose to disagree with house, but you can't argue that he doesn't believe in his calculating way as a path AWAY from destruction and suffering.
It's very sad, if you playing for NCR, there is no way to get a friendship ending between Mr.House and NCR ( NCR pushes you to deactivate Mr.House systems and get him out from the chamber )
House seems to be the best option to save mankind, my only fear it's that so many years in new vegas may make him go full Andrew Ryan. Edit: Now that i think it House may have take a page about Master....or wrote a sequel of his fricking book.
Mr. House wanted the best for humanity, and thought himself their greatest chance. His folly was thinking that what he ultimately became could possibly qualify as, or represent, humanity. His prolonged physical isolation and preexisting narcissism and ruthlessness resulted in a callous, unempathetic man; he was overwhelmingly intelligent, and surely could have brought humans to another planet, but the dictatorial society he built and planned was founded on the calculated logic of a machine rather than tenants of human nature. He could guarantee survival of humans as living things, as he had with himself, but that survival would come at the cost of the dignity of choice and free will; the ability for us to decide our future for ourselves. Perhaps he was meant to lead humanity into an evolution, but inevitably it would be one that abandons aspects of humanity in its wake. A deeply flawed yet remarkable man. His atrophied, weathered form is symbolic of his own nature and the fate he would bring to what we know as humanity in his imagined world. As one looks around the Mojave, the slavers of the Bull on one side and the corrupt Bear Republic on the other, you see the repetition of human history throughout the ages. One must consider that letting go of aspects of our identity, to abandon that corpulent ideal of what it means to be "human," is the only way to save ourselves from a self-created cycle of damnation. But are you willing to leave that decision in the hands of a lone cyborg lich?
The savior of the Mojave with all his genius is always a few steps behind no matter how far ahead he thinks. He knew war was inevitable, ordered the chip a day before the war. Has many people scouring for the chip, virtually useless and hires people he can't trust. I want to believe he can take us to the stars(Outer World's), but for as much as he looks ahead he stumbles with whats in front of him. Humanity changed and people are don't have time for luxury just survival. One thing is the same and that's war. War never changes.
@@clickbait3753 Why are you siding with a bunch quasi religious techno-fetishists? Who are too stubborn to realise their "codex" is leading them to their own doom.
@@PerfectAlibi1 I didn't necessarily "side" with them, but I couldn't agree with Mr house wanting them all mercilessly slaughtered, and literaly offering no compromise or an attempt at a diplomatic solution. That stubbornness and complete lack of empathy showed me House was not someone I would want to lead new vegas.
@@clickbait3753 It's not that he wants to kill them, but that they will want to kill him if given the chance. Though he would win that war, he'd rather side step it all together. Besides, the BoS are hardly innocent.
@@PerfectAlibi1 either way I didn't really agree with slaughtering them pre emptivley when they hadn't actually done anything against Mr house yet, and they weren't really harming anyone inside of their bunker. And ultimately every faction besides mabye the followers in New vegas really isn't innocent and mainly work to serve themselves, that's kind of the point
I wanted to side with house, but he wanted me to wipe out the entire brotherhood of steel. Assuming that I could even manage that, he never seemed to realize that I'm a Paladin and member of the brotherhood, so of course I killed him. I wish there were more options when telling House why you killed him
Why side with the brotherhood? Theyre outdated and doomed to fail because of incompetence. House is the future the BoS literally mug you for having energy weapons.
@YayDude123 Have you even played fallout 1/2/tactics? Or have seen the independent ending where they patrol the highway stealing peoples energy weapons? The BoS are literal degenerates.
I don't understand how people can see Mr. House as bad or can't see him as the best option both logically and morally. Imagine basically trapping yourself in a tube and reducing yourself to a shriveled up body, never being able to walk, or enjoy basic pleasures like taking a walk, eating delicious food or having something to drink, being able to socialize with people face to face on a regular basis... All that for what? As Mr. House puts it, for thr future of mankind. He's the main person who actually cares for the people as a whole. NCR: Greedy Government that's already showing signs of corruption and will soon end up like the Enclave. Caesar's Legion: No matter how good they become when they finally are civilized and form a proper, strong and uniform government, they've done too much evil to be redeemed. And no matter what Caesar thinks presently, his campaign was first fueled by his ego, not for the care of his fellow man. Yes Man (Independent): Anyone who takes that ending seriously is not very bright. The independent ending is good for the fun of it. You get to become king and yay everyone's happy but that's only a fairytale in reality (at least in the reality of the game/lore). A courier with little to no understanding of *basic* education, much less any knowledge of economic concepts that go above the simple bottlecap currency is in now way fit to sustain a nation even in the short term, much less long term. Mr House: A pre war genius who rose from the gutter to become one of the most brilliant minds in human history dedicated to humanitie's survival. Think about this logically instead of listening to random npc's. Mr. House, with all his technology and wealth, could've easily bought his way to pure self preservation. He could've moved to a secret location away from the bombings and lived his days peacefully and die gracefully. But no, instead he decided to take on the burden of setting up defenses to protect New Vegas and developed such advanced technology that would keep him alive for eternity trapped in a shell just to ensure that Humanity would have a chance. What else could he have done besides moved away by himself? He could've easily bought his way into Vault Tec or the Enclave. Develope vast technologies for them and be granted the utmost safety and comfortable living. But no, he probably knew what they were up to and wanted no part of it. Mr. House will always be the best option.
While I agree that House is the best choice out of the three main factions, I believe the independent route is the best option if the Courier completed and understood the DLC locations. Every major leader is reluctant in some way to change. The NCR is so embroiled in its own bureaucracy that those without power cannot bring change while those with power choose not to. The Legion is held back by Caesar's unwillingness to listen to the opinions of others, dooming the Legion to die without a successor. House has plans for resettlement on some distant planet but at present bases his plans on the notion that he can acquire funds through gambling and tourism. In all three cases, while a single factor can tip the odds enough for one group to become dominant, none are willing or able to fix defects in their existing ideologies. In comparison, the Courier can change. In Dead Money, you witness men and women, devoured by their own greed and hatred, come to terms with themselves and let go of their past to look for a future. In Honest Hearts, you watch a man finally forgive himself from his past sins, striving to be a better person for his community. In Old World Blues, where science and progress have halted, you reignite the passion for discovery and convince a few old scientists to work to improve the lives of others. Finally, in Lonesome Roads, where the world has gone to Hell and one man has forsaken his ideals to undertake revenge under the delusion of proving some ideological point, you remind him of the home he lost and give him a chance to try again. Through the roads you walk, the courier witnesses lifetimes worth of pain and sorrow, yet also find ways to overcome these obstacles and see the good in people. In conjunction with the various technologies and resources found, the courier can actually become one of the most powerful and influential people in the wasteland, able to initiate change rather than follow the flawed ideologies of others.
I honestly couldn't bring myself to play through the game to get the other endings once I knew I had to kill mr. House in all of them. I could never bring myself to kill someone like that in a video game because he represents everything I care about, science, technology, medicine, and progress. I could never kill him.
Dam people take this game a little too seriously. I sided with Caesar for a while because I love history and especially Rome. But killed him too. I never liked House because he offered me nothing and was just as egotistical as Caesar. And the NCR had no real solutions to any of their problems and were on the verge of collapse. Also the independent ending could work if the courier put all his points into intelligence and charisma. Plus security wouldn’t be a problem with all the securitrons. And only the courier could unite the Mojave. The NCR and house wanted several of the factions neutralized or flat out destroyed. Neither ever tried to cooperate with them. And the legion’s answer was basically “Join or die”. Where as the Courier was one of them. He approached many of them peacefully and gained the trust of most of them. The NCR refused this, House refused this, and the Legion doesn’t need to be explained. I played fallout for fun. If I wanted to get balls deep into politics I’d play bioshock. Or get involved in politics Irl. I didn’t do a play through thinking “Hmm this guy is the most logical choice due to current circumstances and moral dilemmas” I went “Oh I can be king of Vegas? Sweet!” Houses story isn’t bullet proof either. He’s a dictator, you can’t sugarcoat it. And there is absolutely zero chance of citizens protesting or revolting. Also house isn’t immortal. What if his securitrons are hacked? What is the Lucky 38 building collapses or sieged? There’s no escape for him. And he would face the same fate as the legion, a power vacuum.