FGO Hot takes : "Aoko's kit is an awkward mess (but still kinda strong)" 

What happens if you use mage of flowers or jeanne cc on her buster card?

Aoko: "Look, it's simple. I use NP, I punch really hard." Also Aoko: *precharge + turn 1 management + Buster/Arts comps + skill CD management + NP timing*

She's the definiton of "That's a lot of words to describe "just hit'em really hard" and you win"

@@dzigayu4944 she is more like a merchant that did the job after u fulfill her/his payment

Ya if she does get a buff, her first NP would be it, make Super Aoko more super. It would really help that Buster card as well.

Yeah that extra attack goes nuts.

Is that additive or multiplicative with her built in extra attack buffs in her kit. If it's additive I'm not sure how impactful that append skill will be. Since she can already boost her extra attack so much. Multiplicative would go crazy though. But I don't have her so this is just me theorycrafting. I might be wrong

I think it would have been better if her decks were switched. Triple arts while normal and double buster while super

@@sibsart2039 yeah they messed up that part

I’m more of an Alice guy. Between us, neither will be lonely.

Preach, my man. Same here.

Both unique kit

I am simple, I see hot-take, I like and watch it to kill time.

Uh oh! I have a peepee that gets hard with a drawing.

She doesn't actively use Blue to do that though, she only achieved it at the climax of her story. While Mel's is just her using her actual power.

@@reishiki8682 Whatever man, just give her a ascension with it, or Bond CE which gives her starts whitin Super Aoko.

@@reishiki8682 lore reasons aside, since Aoko stays in Super Mode for the whole battle, I feel it would be better if you could choose how she starts in battle. Like Melusine.

​@@diogofernandes4973Lol, you're just not satisfied with "X SHOULD be a broken Servant but isn't really". And that's why you want something that's easy to use, doesn't require much thought and just fire and forget kekw. @ekcmanga5908 If they did, then she's no different than Melusine, but actually worse since her Redshift form gets her facecards nerfed and all you get is just your generic Arts NP with a cool animation

She's different from Melusine, Aoko transforms by NP but Mulusine transforms by skill.

So they can buff her 😂

Because Van Gogh exists. Exactly why Kuku lacks the Entity of the Outer Realm passive.

i think they realized how busted monte cristo was, so they panicked and decided to overbalance her to not repeat the same mistake

I want to know why they made so many of her 1st NP buffs removable! You can only use it once but iirc the buster and extra card bonuses are both removable?!

@@reishiki8682 man I don’t think 30% crit damage would break the game

ig this is an advantage for her triple arts deck idunno lol

Is it because of Alice?

@@sibsart2039 No, Alice's good and all, but I just like Aoko more. Just uh... matters of preference 😅

@@rejoicingfakepriest201 oh I read that wrong 😑

@@sibsart2039 Is all good my friend, happens to everyone.

Aoko milk

Every time a transform servant gets added into the game I remember Jakyll has died for our sins. He walked so they could ran.....

We salute our fallen comrade 🫡

​@@filipghiglione3750 He is geronimo except geronimo is still useful

If you think THIS is ok , i dont know what you think is cracked.

@@morsayxd like Plushie said, she is a case of overbalancing. For everything she has that may seem "busted", there is a downside. Her Buster and Extra performances are halved compared to other servants, making her AoE honestly kinda weak - only players who hyper invest into her (AKA a minority) will see them actually doing something. What's more, the first NP, which buffs her Buster and Extra, consists of a REMOVABLE effect, even though they're a permanent buff for the transformed state. Buff removal is frankly quite common in harder fights, many times happening upon breaking an HP bar. Her Supereffective niche is inconsistentas she demands too many Magic Bullets to be relevant, so she has to have dead turns to stack them enough for damage to be really significant; the Extra attack consuming all bullets is a huge offender for this issue, as even with CD reduction stacking S1 Magic Bullets is a tad hard. Lastly, her NP gain lowered in Super form coupled with the fact that her pre-transformation S2 gets blocked post transformation really seals the deal.

@@VitorAntas bro every unit has a downside. We are talking about a unit that have aoe dmg on fc and even if her dmg is halved on extra and buster on paper , on practice her dmg is still significant , buff removal is common but isnt present in every 2 fight , her magic bullet gimmick is far better than most considering some unit that are wanked to shit like ibuki only have their gimmick against one type of enemy. You are calling "ok" a unit that has a 100% battery and can give 50% to the entire team , which is ludicrous. Not only that she has a solemn def on a 4t cd and get 5 magic bullet which is enough for the standard niche , yet you want to call the magic bullets "inconsistent" when some servant just have no niche in some fight. no talking about the fact that she has 2 skillsets and give 10% charge passively to the whole party and 5 stars. Yet all that is just ok to you. Sheesh , this community scaling is wild , especially when most of this game content isnt even hard.

@@morsayxd She's only just OK because for all her complexity she doesn't meaningfully push the envelope in any direction, and has limited best use cases: she's not good for farming, she's not good for TAs, and needs high investment and commitment to understanding her kit for mixed play. In the end what she's a natural fit for is Castoria stall in CQs, which she's a good unit for but unremarkable given the solved nature of the playstyle.

@@NephilmX she is amazing in farming , TA is irrelevant and the rest is a skill issue thing and the last argument is still a strong point she has above other unit , the stall is better than with morgan stall team too.

The only thing thar drags her down is the need to NP before getting a real one and having no proper self charge in the base form, Its reverse jekyll he can transform easily but then gains nothing, she has a hard time transforming but becomes good.

​@@GS_CCCShe gets worse as Blue!Aoko with regular cards in exchange for a damaging NP, a nerfed Buster+Extra card damage in exchange for doing AoE damage and getting new skills that are situational half the time. You'll want her NOT in her NP most of the time.

@@reishiki8682 no she doesn't she becomes capable of looping the np, who cares about the buster and extra could have that go to 0% dmg mod, you will just click the arts for chains anyway. How is that skill 1 and 2 are situational?

@@reishiki8682Don't even waste your time, this guy above is a walking meme in the community, that thinks the game is basically farming. That being said, she doesn't really gets worse when she goes Super Aoko. True, her Buster is pretty much useless in my opinion, too low of a damage for it to matter, but her NP is potent, and as an AoE Foreigner, she is among the top.

@@Rahdwiinhow does he think the game is basically farming when he says you don’t want her in her actual farming form? 💀 make it make sense

Should've had a 100-200% buster up after transforming to super aoko cause honestly those buster cards are so rare unless you have a bb

Yeah Idk why they think Permanent buff for 1 buster card is a good Idea anyway. Like besides the 3 turn crit buff the ramp up NP is too wasteful for a full charge. Like what do you go? Ooga booga with 1 Buster or go Arts Looping? Not to mention normal Aoko skill 2 and 3 is never gonna be used because they share CD.

@@ohongphong9235 because it hits like a truck and is aoe, she bombs stars like crazy and with van gogh and summer BB could probably 3 turn off of buster crits depending on the node

​@@nah-dx3wcExcept : 1.) You NEED to get her Buster cards on turn 1, because one of them turns into an Arts card post-Redshift 2.) The damage from her Buster+Extra attack is nerfed to compensate being an AoE attack 3.) If the sole Buster card you get on turn 1 gets turned into an Arts card then your BB cardlock play is screwed right from the get-go

@@nah-dx3wcnot very bright

Her Extra Attacks aren't really worth the investment so I'd say the 20% NP Charge is much more useful for her to reach Super Aoko more easily

@@Truck-kun11I like mana loading more than append 1

Yes, it can be removed. It just has unlimited duration

@@TheAnaz41745 so, super aoko buster and extra not become aoe?

​@@TheAnaz41745wait it can? That sucks, the ramp up NP is basically useless then

U realize when foreigner class score unlocks u get the card buffs she needs

Embarassing fc ??? Bro 15k+ dmg on neutral face card vs all enemies is not embarassing 😂.

If I want large amt of stars per turn I’ll use summer skadi

They already fixed the problem she has. Ptolemy and Melusine are in the game, even jekyll got a charge buff to transform(well he turns into nothing). If they wanted AoE to be usable we have mechanics like saber turning all her cards into buster etc. She was intentionally gimped for no reason.

Ok even it’s possible why bother , most cases you would rather use her NP still regardless, the np doesn’t even waste all the bullets if you have over 10

@@PlushieMistress In terms of solo runs, lower NP levels actually makes her Extra more appealing to use. NP1 with 8 starting stacks and max Append 1 as well as all of Super Aoko's buffs will result in her Same-Color Extra doing 1653.75% damage while her NP does 1176.12%. Even with team support, unless you can ensure that Aoko can have a persistent amount of Arts Up and/or NP Damage Up buffs, there will be windows where using her Same-Color Extra will result in much more damage. I'm just mentioning it because I feel that it's an outlook that's being missed atm and if someone wants to min-max Aoko's damage, they need to also take this into consideration. EDIT: Apparently, Mighty Brave Chains do not get the boosted 350% Extra modifier but gets the base 200% Extra modifier. Makes it less appealing and harder to make her Extra attack be useful unless solo-ing or by some miracle of god.

Olga. Sure

Eresh summer

The one you like the best is always the answer here.

Gameplay wise Alice 100% Alice is a proper looper, Aoko needs to first waste a turn using an NP with no effect to unlock her real NP

​@@GS_CCC oh yes. We need to assess a servant's gameplay based on their farming capabilities alone. Absolutely.

​@@boatsbowl4404 since 99.9% of the gameplay is farming and you can easily skip the challenge in bosses/CQs with commands/bluecubes + suplist Yes of course you use farming as the gameplay reason. Even if she was better for CQs 1 or 2 battles a month that aren't really relevant.

​@@GS_CCC so tldr is farming brainrot. Also you say it's 99.9 and elsewhere you say 90%. If you're gonna die on this hill then at least be consistent with your numbers.

I would have preferred if he had mentioned some of those team builds. He only talked about castoria and tamamo in the team recommendations

@@boatsbowl4404 Those are the teams he's referring to.

​@@NephilmX Ah. Well I'll try some other comps cz I don't have castoria or tamamo

even at np1 she would have been great on y account since i have both buster and arts supports. but it was not meant to be, even as i spent hours getting 4 servants above bond 10 to give me the goods and it was not enough

No actually, at least not without wasting damage buffs because you still need to commit battery charge skills to trigger her transformation. So if you take one extra turn to transform castoria’s atk up, how own skill 3, and the missiles from her skill 1 activated before transforming will run out on turn 4

@@PlushieMistress yeah I get that but would the 40% attack up make that much of a difference? From your video it seems she has pretty decent t3 damage anyway so I feel like it would at least be a viable strategy and worth mentioning Edit: oh I forgot about her skill 3 lol ok yeah I see yeah the t3 damage might be pretty horrible with that setup

Exactly. If anything her innovative kit alone justifies rolling for her if nothing else

Arcueid is OP.

@@Dorrovian you could say that but talking about power dynamics usually leads to a power hierarchy where Arcuied isn't even able to beat her own class competitors. She's good no shade just nothing ground breaking which is what everyone is after.

​@@kama725So summer Kiara and Jinako and BB are stronger??? Press X to doubt lol.

Isn't Artoria still top tier?

Well, the game is mostly farming so makes sense the criticism is focused on farming, if anything the importance of CQ/bosses is really inflated when talking about a servant.

90% of the game is just farming. It would have been a different story if this story has other game mode for end game content instead just one CQ, 2 if they are generous, per event.

@@owo4288 90% is being generous to CQs/main quest, even if you just use your daily AP on JP you will be doing 9 nodes daily and 6 during events, its a minimum of 180 nodes per months, its probably closer to 99.9%.

@@GS_CCC y'all just endlessly farm every day?

@@kingkunta3753 no, on JP you only have enough daily AP for 9 nodes a day outside of events and 6 during, it takes little of no time to farm all you need on the day, especially since you can't use all in one go because it needs to recharge

The door is this way 👉

How do you trigger her initial np lol, kscope?

@@PlushieMistress kscope or a 50% ce with Castoria plug to a third DPS like Arcueid, xNaya has some proof of concepts you no doubt will have seen.

​@@LuniSq0 bonus CE setup with 30k AOE busters? Thats what i call a good setup

@@LuniSqyeah and they’re bad, lol, just because a content creator comes up with a fun comp doesn’t mean they are good including many videos I do. Its fun over practical for most content bc nobody wants to see boring practical stuff

@@LuniSq if your multicore setup requires multiple kscopes then there is absolutely no reason to specifically use double aoko lol

well, also still like the Aoko gameplay though even though it's complex.

You don't like it when after 3-4 years a servants gets a crit up or guts skill or they buff the np dmg from a servant with 0-20% charge and no refund 🤡

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Is that you Touko?

This must be Touko's secret account

Not really The real prize if aoko is caster while alice is foreigner

Are you talking about her kits?

t. Alice