Fighter Pilot Reacts to WW3 with China vs. United States 

There was a saying in the PLAAF: Instructor: "Why do you dogfight?" Student: "Because I have supermaneuvrability (in my Flanker?)?" Instructor: "No, because you are an idiot" This pretty much sums up that China doesn't put much money into dogfighting, rather prefers to put 2 close range missiles (think PL8, PL10, very modern heatseekers) on the jet and call it a day. They much more prefer the integrated system of satellites, AWACS aircraft (think KJ500, 2000), land and naval based radars, and long range drones for detecting an enemy and shooting at it from far away (using PL12 and PL15 missiles that at least from range is equal or superior to western missiles). This philosophy might also be why China loves delta wings, because they work very well at supersonic speeds and that's what you need for a plane to shoot a missile as far as it can by giving good initial energy. As for which side fares in a real modern war, I'd put my money on the PLAAF from theoretical capabilities. After all, China's military modernization is based on lessons from 1991, so they are fundamentally meant to face off the world's best using the latest military weapons and tactics (which includes BVR). Also, idk if this would sway your opinion, but the bonus of canards is that it generates lift upwards and not downwards as a conventional tailplane would. This not only eases airframe damage, but also reduces drag over the main wings as they no longer need to compensate the downforce on the rear but are actually assisted by a lift force in the front.

This is certainly a topic I know I've been thinking about, and I'm sure many others appreciate you sharing your perspective on the prospects for such a conflict, and if it did happen, how it might turn out. Thank you for addressing the elephant in the F-22.

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J35 needs more fuel to fly farther and 歼 [the other] 35 aircraft, hence a back of cockpit fuel tank is most likely

Thanks so much!

You bet! That's my forte

Robert! Thanks a ton, always nice to hear. Feel free to send me topic ideas on instagram, I'm not that creative so that's where I get my ideas lol. Hope you're well!

Your welcome and I definitely will, btw, I'm good, been an aviation fan since my father introduced me at the age of 4yo, wanted to be a fighter pilot but life saw me as a Deputy Sheriff lol, either way, I still stay true to my love for military aircraft especially being from Fayetteville NC, and Pope AFB was where this love began. Of course now it's all Army but I have fond memories of the airshow he introduced me too, he passed away a little under two years ago from covid but he also loved aviation as well. The Thunderbirds was all he spoke of in the 80s and when I saw them fly I understood why lol,, so to see your content as I am an enthusiast provides me with that connection, I thank you as well..

You're awesome man. Keep doing what you're doing

Thanks Muhammad! Glad you're here

Dude. Great questions, I have a Tbird video coming out soon with some of these

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@@user-xr9oy4mn5d The 150-250 number is him referring to J-20As, he is referring to the J-20S entering service later this year. But you are right, it already entered service.

I can answer that: The team's jets would dragged across the Pacific by KC-135s, or KC-10s, but, as far as the external tanks, only the two seaters have the belly tank fitted, and the single seaters of the team do not carry the tanks, because it's easier for the maintenance personnel to get the show birds ready for their show, by not carrying external tanks.

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🤣 I love surprise endings. Well done!

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not to fear the results of a hundred battles -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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Damn me too. It is satisfying when they stop to reply. Now day the only point they can make is China copying shit.Which I am getting used to. Yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah😂😂

跟这些人舌战不如为祖国备战。西方网站上人都是这样，不会讲理的，何必费心思和时间？

I think you are on to something but the mig 1.44 was trying to counter the F22. So it was Russia copying F22 and then China always copying Russia.

haha I hear you

Noted! Thanks for swinging by!

He has a huge photo in the background of a pilot...how can anyone mistaken him to he a Joe blow?! 😉

Right now, the F-22s don't have an HMD, but, that's part of a big upgrade that's coming to the Raptor fleet.

J-20's dont have cannons so they better not miss the F-22s cause they will have those J20s for supper although the doctrine is to launch all missiles then run. They are only stealthy missile trucks anyway.

Even original soviet vintage flankers have hmd's

Taiwan is an incredibly mountainous country with incredible technology. People seem to forget that they have as much right to claim mainland China as a part of their country as the CCP has to claim Taiwan as theirs. Any potential blockaders of Taiwan would face missile barrages of the blockading forces that would cause massive damage and lots of sunk tonnage. The island is like the Switzerland of the west pacific. The juice ain’t worth the squeeze of trying to take it.

@@jdenmark1287 I would argue more claim, since the KMT did once rule the mainland, however CPC never ruled Taiwan. But if the PRC wanted to take Taiwan by force, all they have to do is overwhelm Taiwan with rocket artillery for a few days to break morale before landing any forces on the island.

That’s the real question since it will be a battle of navies. The deciding factor will be if the plaan get the catapult system on their carriers to launch fully armed combat aircraft like the United States. Ski ramp carrier decks reduce the effectiveness of the Chinese carrier aircraft because you can’t launch fully loaded, they have to save weight to get speed and lift.

Ha thanks!

He isn’t a match at all. This guy is his super nerdy brother that thinks he is cool.

Thanks Tony!

Hey thanks!

That would be interesting too. After all since the west bases a LOT of its airplanes on BVR and extended range combat its very important to analyse the weapons on top of the framework. After all we have seen Russia with very capable air-frames struggling to actually put them to use due to lacking weapons and resorting to the use of dumb bombs and rockets. The CCP clearly did their homework better than Russia did, so it would be interesting to see the two being put against each other armament wise

Yes J16 will be mass production. It’s a really reliable and multi function platform. Ground attack with massive payloads. Air to air which flankers are originally designed for. Anti ship or J16D electronic warfare fighter.

I think both J16 and J11 [Insert many combos of letters here] will be in mass production. What matters is the technology; it would be the latest AESA radars and comms and PL10/15 to match

Pretty sure missle launch sites would be priority targets for the US.

It's hard to hit a submarine with a ballistic missile... I imagine what would happen would be, ideally, our ships would remain as much out of range of those missiles as possible, so while they could attack our bases in Japan and Taiwan, they could not attack our ships, but we would be able to attack their ships from the air, and their aircraft from the air, so, over time, we would win the air and naval war, at perhaps much less cost than if we had sought to start engaging the Chinese harbors from carriers immediately. But what does this mean for US F-16s already in Japan? I think it means they have to fight their way out, then land somewhere else, until time has taken its toll on the Chinese Navy and Air Force, after which, we would focus more on targets ashore, but not before. Recent wargames indicated we could lose up to 900 US combat aircraft, but I sincerely believe those results could be greatly improved by using our available resources more cautiously, at least initially, citing the hazards you mentioned. When the machine gun was invented, that was the end of the orderly, 3 ranks deep, line formation infantry assault, because such a tactic became suicidal, due to the new capability the machine gun offered. But it did not mean that machine guns were invulnerable, or that having one ensured victory. If China cannot ferry supplies back and forth to Taiwan, it loses, sooner or later. That's all we really have to achieve. Ideally, it would also be hard for them to drop paratroopers.

J-16 and any other EW aircraft will not be a problem when AIM-260 JATM comes out. Beside its active radar homing, it may also have infrared homing and/or anti-radiation capability similar to Raytheon's Peregrine missile that may replace the AIM-9X in the future. F-16 is getting an upgraded EW suite if I'm not wrong, so it could use it's passive radar to find J-16 and use JATM. Also same can be said for Chinese airfields that could be destroyed with Tomahawks or JASSM. But the advantage will go to whoever strikes first and who has more missiles and interceptors.

I could see that!

The J-10 is neither, it originated as a fusion of the J-9, it is nothing like either.

Fun fact: the letter "J" in PLAAF's fighter jet's name stands for "jiān", or "歼" in Chinese writings, it means a kind of total destruction.

Not yet, but I'd like to

haha, without the feel of a jet I think he might smoke me! But yeah this sounds like way too much fun

Well both countries don’t reveal the full capabilities. There’s a lot of stuff we don’t know about J20 also

And I hope that we never find out and you keep the conviction of your superiority forever.

Hey thanks bro! Right back at you 🫡

totally agree

Phew that's a great question, you are way more qualified than me to answer that but let's keep that one offline.

Dude you are getting into classified territory there. Retired USAF here, F15 F117 F22 8FS/49th FW

The equivalent would probably be air density and weather patterns.

Right on thanks!

Your information is pretty actuate. You sure have better source than the poster.

J-10 looks like a F16 and a Viggen smashed together.

@@SirMo lol everything from China has to look like something.... so what's Eurofighter look like? what's Rafale look like? what's Tejas look like??

I hear ya, thanks!

It looks more similar to the IAI Lavi...which well uhm...

The J-10 looks more like the Lavi, instead of looking like the Viper.

@@johnosbourn4312 The J-10 is closer to the J-9 than the Lavi.

I could see that!

It takes years to become skilled at using a fighter jet. Changing jets isnt like changing a car. Each fighter has its own capabilities. They are all good at some things and struggle in others. If a Mig pilot sits in an F-16, he’ll be confused af. He won’t know what does what not will he be able to understand the capabilities of the F-16. Each fighter has tactics developed for it and those tactics don’t work when using another fighter.

@@boejiden7093 Are you a pilot?

@@KawaTony1964 i’m learning how to fly now so kinda. But my instructor was a navy fighter pilot. So when I asked him your exact question, that was his response. Every fighter jet is different and has unique capabilities. To learn those capabilities takes time. To master them, takes even longer. If Ukraine had operated western jets before the invasion, perhaps we could have given them some fighters. But its not possible anymore

@@boejiden7093 Yep that is exactly it. Moreover most of the jets in the west, as well as their weapons, are purpose built as integrated platforms as part of a complete strike force package. While individual aircraft are good, its really when they are part of the entire force that they stand out to the point of having the ability to dismantle an entire nation's worth of infrastructure like they did in desert storm. Even the weapons we have currently sent, like HIMARS, already rely a lot on an enhanced level of intelligence gathering which we are also helping to provide, but for jets this needs the entire package. Even if we assume that AWACs can bee handled by NATO aircrafts operating outside the country, to maximise the effect of the BVR focused equipement would include - Reconnaissance aircraft or reconnaissance elements identifying targets ahead of time and with great precision - E-war fighters designed to degrade enemy air defense and sensor equipment, allowing all fighters a greater degree of operation. Lets say that we hand that off the AWACs and satellites - SEAD elements in order to seach, destroy, and supress enemy air defenses in order to gain air superiority. This is even more important considering Russia's meaty air defense system including near strategic level air defense systems - lots, and lots of BVR weapons and Joint standoff munitions being carried by all matter of aircraft, especially the stealth strike fighters and stealth fighters - the occasional CAS focused strike fighter or strike bomber only appearing once air is firmly in control and all outstanding AA threats are dealt with. - heavy platforms like the B-52 are near impossible to get close to the area anyways unless they are relegated to cruise missile spam which would put them outside of Ukraine's territory anyways. - B-1 is probably far too hard and risky to operate in a contested airspace even if its designed for airspace penetration (it could get in but unknown if it would get out) All those platforms are super complex to operate and NEED the support of the other platforms to maximize their effect

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@@MaxAfterburnerusa no doubt

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@@MaxAfterburnerusa Haha just saw Anchorman the other day for the first time! Great content man!

Hi both are cool jets!

The f35 can hit any plane before they are even detected and can hit from farther away ... the f35 woukd never fly alone it would have other fighter jets with it .

J-20s dont even have cannons. They are just stealth missile trucks. Still dangerous interceptors though due to some stealth, the large amounts of missiles they carry, and the type of long range missiles. Perhaps less dangerous to fighters but very bad for tankers, EW, and AWACS.

@@wolfgangjr74 Modern air combat itself is BVR, why is there a machine gun?

Interesting, thanks

I’m willing to bet you won’t sway his opinion on canards seeing as how he’s very well educated in aviation fighter technique and design. He knows the significant disadvantage of having them.

Not only that, the vortex generated by the canard can also increase the lift of the main wing, again reducing drag. With modern flight by wire system and digital simulations to compensate for the complex aerodynamic shape of delta canards, I think it is a very attractive option for fighters.

@@reboundrides8132 I guess so. I’m more familiar with the modern BVR focus and seeing how he judges fighters I guess he’s more of a top gun guy who prefers more traditional dogfights. That being said if he’s educated he should have a whole science lesson explaining why

Hmm I feel a canards vs. stabs video coming on lol

@@JYF921 looks like we get to find out lol so dope

Yeah Looks more like the MiG Project 1.44 (eventually the MiG 39 if had been in service).

@@davidmckenzie6505 Oh wow, I haven't heard of the MiG project 1.44 before. You're are right, they look identical.

Interesting