Film Theory: Thanos Tried to Save Us, and Eternals PROVES IT! 

That RU-vid top 10 comparison was too real

As Thanos told Stark: “you’re not the only one cursed with knowledge”

*"Maybe I treated you too harshly"*

I always felt that, when watching Eternals, I thought that the movie isn't meant to be a showstopper, but a "plot glue" that would make better sense once everything else comes together. Reminds me of the "slow tracks" in a great album: yeah, it's not a hit, but it's not meant to be a hit. It is more of a palate cleanser.

An interesting note is that Thanos also snapped away half the entire UNIVERSE's population, not just earth, meaning he was also stopping other celestials from "emerging". He nearly saved countless planets across the universe.

Also to add onto this I remember him talking to Tony saying “you’re not the only cursed with knowledge” which we could make a case for him knowing what happens and doesn’t want to share it. Just like Tony seeing a vision of everyone dying, but he doesn’t share it until Endgame when he talks to everyone at beginning of the movie explaining that they can’t win.

This actually makes sense cause when thanos had a conversation with tony he said “you’re not the only one cursed with knowledge”

Another theory as to why Thanos used the resources explanation could be because he already tried the real explanation on Titan and everyone thought he was crazy and it didn’t work.

You may have nailed it with this one. Looking over how the MCU is playing out with the introduction of celestials, venom in the MCU, and Gorr the GodButcher, I think Knull is going to come sooner than Kang the conqueror. I am kind of hoping that MCU does two separate story archs that lead to both these villains, which will ultimately build up to someone huge like Galactus or Annailis or Doctor Doom or someone else. I am not sure. But man, this is the best theory I’ve ever seen. Well done.

"Why are you booing, I'm right" is a meme that basically sums up the entire thing

Thanos did tell Tony, “You’re not the only one cursed with knowledge.” So I buy the theory about him knowing.

Like what Thanos said to ironman. "You too are cursed with knowledge."

"With all six stones that I could simply snap my fingers, they would all cease to exist. I call that... mercy. I would finally rest and watch the sunrise on the grateful universe." A quote from a hero we all should to remember.

What’s the chance that Galactus will be introduced as an eater of Celestial embryos? He does eat planets, but he is trying to eat or absorb Celestial energy.

Regarding Strange's "one win" outcome from his vision, I think may have seen the Earth hatch. He doesn't want humanity gone or the world in darkness though, so he opted for the next best thing: delaying it so we can possibly deal with both of those eventually.

I really doubt Knull will ever make an appearance, but this is such a good theory otherwise. I'm an unapologetic fan of Eternals and this just solidifies it as my favourite movie of Phase 4.

You really are putting in the work to make the MCU more intersting and coherent. I don't know how to feel about this.

It’s sad how Thanos won millions of times. But the Avenger only won once and it was enough

The fact that there was eternals on Titan at all means there was definitely a celestial in it's core. And I've always felt odd about the way Titan was described. This explanation just makes so much more sense. It's all I've been thinking since I saw the film.

I really liked the Eternals but I think it is very high concept to fit into 2 and half hours I'd have liked more time with them in the ancient civilisations. - I think that this movie will actually get better retroactively with sequels and mentions in future movies.

The MCU should listen to Mat, their new movies would make sense, and be actually good to watch.....

In Avengers Endgame, Thanos said he was going to get rid of everyone in the universe and make a new universe. This is just an interesting detail I wanted to add in because this means he either wanted to delay the emergence entirely or he just didn’t know about the celestials and just cared about having a better universe.

Me after watching the Movie: "MatPat is definitely going to make a theory about this."

I like how you put this all together for it to make sense to the audience💯🤟🏾

There’s also a embodiment of nothing and chaos, known as the chaos king

“… the parents in the audience are all collectively stiffening” is not how you want to phrase it.

I saw the movie and I remember that in somewhere, someone said that "when they brought half of the universe's population" it provide the necessary energy for the celestial to emerge. Nice video!

Eternals was good. I really liked it. And when people I talk too says they hate/don`t like it. It ALWAYS turns out they only watch it once and when you ask about this and that they don`t remember. Good movies require multiple re-watches.

This certainly is a solid counter to “why not double the resources”

“The celestials reproduce by laying their eggs in the core of planets” Evangelion fans: *vietnam flashbacks*

I have been a fan of these videos for a long time but since I have suffered cranial trauma and have not been as smart as I used to be I find these videos very hard to keep up with.. but I still watch them so I can feel as smart as I used to be and I thank you for making them so I can have that feeling I appreciate you

dude im so glad i found this video i've been talkin about knull for forever now, and i can't wait for seeing more symbiotes in the mcu

I love that everyone's now realizing this because Thanos wasn't just another bad guy the character has so much more story to offer

Thanos isn’t just an eternal with a recessive gene, he’s literally half deviant. That’s why he looks how he does. This theory makes more sense if you bring in the idea that thanos was being driven by the deviant half of him, the half that wants to stop the celestials.

It'd be cool to see Amatsu-Mikaboshi in a Marvel movie too

in the comics, Thanos is labeled the mad Titan because he loves death and wants to impress her by killing half the universe...he was also created by the Eternals...so that may have been part of it. Once he has the Infinty stones he fights the Eternals and Galactus and wins...it is only when death spurns him that he loses.

I mean - I feel like Thanos not mentioning the Celestials was so he didn't get stomped BY the Celestials. After all, we saw at the end of Eternals that the Celestials can just roll up on a planet and effortlessly 'yoink' people if they interfere in Celestial business. So Thanos indirectly sabotaging the Celestials without directly targeting them seems very on-point. Would also explain why he's so frustrated about people not perceiving his grand vision, because he is trying to use incomplete data to get them to understand.

Theory: It wasn't thanos, it was Doctor Strange, since he could have stopped Thanos by not giving the time stone but did so which allowed for 5 years to go by and let Ajax think on why humanity was worth saving. Doctor Strange saw that if they won, 1 week later the earth was doomed anyway so by allowing 5 years to go buy with half the planet gone it let Ajax change her worldview.

I wonder how this changes with the introduction of Kang or is it going to be a thing where we go for Kang first - but then [like Thanos being a big bad hinted at and only officially THE BIG BAD later] we'll start running into BIGGER bads like Knull

This is awesome, keep these videos coming.

Also, it was confirmed that thanos did not just wipe out humans, but every life form on every planet. It's also confirmed the celestials need enough general life on earth (not just people) to be born. If thanos was about making sure there was enough resources, you would think he would just erase half of all of the apex species of all the planets, not absolutely everything.

With this it makes sense. Thanos was VERY powerful but Stranges suggestion of only one positive outcome is impossible, there should've been more than just one timeline in which they win. unless it was completely necessary for the snap to happen, for the unsnap to happen and then Thanos' army be defeated in a specific way. Strange is playing a very dangerous game here.

This video really inclined towards the climax, great observation💫

It's kind of sad that, no matter how good Matt's theories are, or how close they are to what was originally conceived by Marvel, Marvel studios and Disney are so hung up on chasing trends and having movies instantly liked that they either won't think of this, or they won't commit to seeing it through.

With this theory, Thanos virtually delayed the inevitable birth of the Celestials from destroying earth. When Thanos said he was going to save the universe, he really wasn’t kidding.

Kinda explains why he doesn't just double the resources

BTW this video is my favorite theory video [plus I love the celestial’s] the kinder egg joke had me chuckle 7:02

Love your content keep up the great work

Thanos was definitely an Eternal. His name is a variation of Thanatos, the god of death, who also happens to be the brother of Eros in Greek Myrhology.

“..and the parents are all there, stiffening…”. Phrasing Matt. Phrasing.

Only problem I see is that Thanos didn't see Earth as worthy anymore and wanted to remake the universe because they were ungrateful, but if the stones had that kind of power couldn't he just delete the celestials that were in planets?

This video was amazing. Thank you

Most people: "Galactus, Galactus, Galactus" Matt: "Have you herd of Null the dark god?"

“the celestials reproduce by laying their eggs in the core of planets” I am starting to think the audience that did not like eternals for its plot would not be fans of evangelion

YESSSS KNULL!!! My Favorite Villain. I knew you where gonna say him when you started too talk about the Celestials.

The thing i always thought of and would help the fact that thanos knew is that i believe thanos could erase half of all life without every infinity stone since reality can literally alter reality and time could change people to never being born i think he made sure to get every stone because he was not exactly sure it would even effect a titan but he got every stone to have th best chance

Thanos also says to tony stark “you’re not the only one cursed with knowledge” probably wasn’t referring to madweiry, but he could’ve been

"The parents and the audience are collectively stiffening." Uh, phrasing.

I gotta say I loved this movie. An insightful Marvel movie is a treat we haven't had for a while

my love for the thanos car grows stronger and stronger. he is so wise, I wish we got a look into his philosophy more.

Maybe that’s why he said to Stark (ie; Iron Man): “You’re not the only one cursed with knowledge” probably because he saw some type of catastrophe, as Iron Man was scared losing half the population, Thanos was scared to lose many worlds.

I''d also like to metion the fact, that at the end up venom: let there be carnage. Eddy ask venom "where do you come from and what's your purpose?" as venom responds with " I couldn't tell you, you're tiny human brain isn't ready to comprehend it". I thought it was a cheap throw away line, but going off Mat's theory, it would make a little more sense venom not telling eddy as the preverse lore around him, the symboites, null and his battle with the eternals WOULD blow his mind.

Nice work on this one.

You know, this theory sounds really cool in retrospect, the whole stuff with Null. If only that was the direction the movies went…

I’m still waiting for you to count every single bee carrying the jet in the bee movie, along with wondering how many bees it’d actually take to actually carry a jet of that size, MatPat

As Peter would say, "Please don't lay your alien eggs inside me!"

I can buy the first premise of the theory. That Thanos saved the Earth when the snapped occurred and the Celestial couldn't be fed. But the rest is reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaally far fetched. 1/ If Thanos wanted to prevent planet from dying because of Celestials... why not using the snap to have Celestials disappearing instead of reducing population by half ? Moreover in Endgame, he "destroys" the Stones, which means that when the planets are getting populated again and the "baby Celestials" are ready to be born, there will be no way to prevent that... Which makes it pretty useless. 2/ A Celestial breaking Titans to be born would leave more damage to the planet that just a deviation of 7 degrees from its axis in my opinion. What could do that however, is a massive war using very advanced technology over the last resources of the planet. 3/ The "vision" thing doesn't work either. Because if Titans would have been destroyed by a Celestial coming from the center of the planet... then why would Thanos think the planet had been destroyed because of a lack of resources ? Assuming he foresaw the apocalypse of his planet, and got kickout by the other Titans and called a "mad man", why would he think the apocalypse happened because of a lack of resources ?

Thanks to that eternals scene, I went to the movies again later that night just to watch the parents look in horror whilst trying to get their kids to look away as their children watch the screen either in awe, or terror

An idea I had about the ending of Eternals is based on an action Tiamut made in the comics. In the comics, the Celestials, Deviants, and Watchers served a being called the Fulcrum. At one point, Tiamut asked the Fulcrum to spare Earth as he had grown to love it. Assuming the flow of energy from Tiamut to Sersi at the end of Eternals was voluntary, that could mean that Tiamut in the MCU had grown to love the planet he was incubated in and allowed Sersi to save Earth.

I love how the selling point of vpns is what is ultimately a secondary, unintended feature of them.

How could Thanos have been born with a recessive gene and be an Eternal when we saw in the movies that Eternals are bio-machines that are not born but built by the Celestials?

not sure Thanos was first thought up to be a ethernal, or that him wiping out half was about celestial not getting born. I mean Arishem would intervene faster if that was true. I think it was more about the lack of resources, as the plot for Eternals squeezed in the MCU afterwards and in a way that would feel decently meshed with all other things

When thanos said “you’re not the only one cursed with knowledge” is hitting differently now(edited…god dam autocorrect😂)

Actually, to be honest, knowing how the comic books were about the MCU and everything in between, I do believe you are onto something. I look forward to seeing how it turns out, I hope they don’t disappoint.

7:47 It's even better. His motivation was that he was a huge simp for Death herself. This was changed in the MCU though after his reveal. It was originally a love story.

I also really liked Eternals The problem with that is that it shouldn't have been an option, because it gets rid of a lot of beings!

Wouldn't this mean that Doctor Strange would have seen a reality where Thanos lost in their first fight and the Celestial destroyed the world, killing the Avengers?

The problem with "The Eternals" is that they tried to pack a lot into a movie. It should have been a series.

Nailed it bro

The infinty gauntlet gives you any wish so why didnt he wish for the titan to die

/r/thanosdidnothingwrong feeling pretty good right now

What's even more interesting is that this provides a perfect answer as to why Thanos didn't just double the resources with the stones as many have wondered. And this gives even more nuance to Thanos as a character than he had before. It works on many different levels.

So my dad was watching infinity wars a day or 2 after I had rewatched eternals. I started making these same connections. Am slightly freeked out about how literally a day or two later, I stumbled on a video explaining just the same connections, where no one else I know knew these things. 😂 Am a casual to medium mcu fan at best. Just wow. Made sense about he went off the be a farmer too. You know, after first job being cultivating planets to feed Celestials.

It was also said in one of the movies that only certain aliens could wheeled the power.

Stories are always more interesting when the villains have a point rather than just being blatantly evil cuz they’re evil.

God this Thanos twist could be incredible. Applause to the mcu writers if they actually thought about this back in IW

Ok this was wayyy more interesting than i expected

Smoothest transition to a sponsor ever.

"The parents in the audience are all collectively stiffening" That was an...interesting choice of words

Thanos: I am doing this to save the universe MatPat two years later: Guys, He tried to save the universe!

i love how eros is greek for cupid, it makes my day 8:15

How long does it takes Mat Pat to make 1 video and where does he find all the information and piece it all together???

Yknow, Eros' weird ability sorta makes sense since his name in greek mythology he's a god of love.

This theory actually does solve 2 massive plot holes . Plot hole 1 :why didn't Thanos just double the resources . Plot hole 2 : why was there only 1 win out of millions since there definitely were options to defeat Thanos before the snap.

Do an episode on adventure time, there’s so many theories to choose from

2:40 wait a minute, you mean to tell me a movie rated "parental guidance required for anyone under 13 due to content likely not suitable for children under 13" has content that is inappropriate for children under 13? I can't believe it.

Can’t wait to see a theory of “Train to Busan has something to do with the Eternals”

A friend of mine said that he understood what the movie was TRYING- and failed- to do, and explained that the movie suffered from being a 2.5 hour movie rather than a TV show that would have allowed the stories to be told at a more suitable pace, and in greater detail. It sets up ideas, and then immediately wraps them up, or else just abandons them after a few minutes, making for a bad movie.

This video blew my mind 😭

The Eternals set up so many cool ideas for the MCU. I'm so excited to see what happens.