Final Fantasy 14 Fan Reacts to World of Warcraft "GARROSH DID NOTHING WRONG" For The FIRST TIME! 

In the expansion Shadowlands when we go to the “afterlife” we get to see Garosh’s spirit and he says he doesn’t regret what he did and would do it again

This video ignores SOOOOOOOOO much stuff. - Thrall left him a bunch of advisors and he ignored/harmed all of them - After a while Cairne (Tauren leader) said he disapproved of Garrosh and challenged him to a fight, Garrosh insisted that they fight to the death instead. The fight was extremely one-sided and Garrosh couldn't even land a hit. But he had chosen a shaman to 'bless' his weapon who was a known enemy of Cairne who coated his weapon in poison. When Garrosh barely grazed him Cairne got incapitated and Garrosh cut him down. - He drove the Trolls into the slums and out of Orgrimmar. - He kidnapped magnataur babies to blackmail their parents into being shipped overseas to fight the Alliance. - He had his Shamans (in his own words;) "Twist and torture" nature. - He comitted countless war crimes and crimes against humanity as well as 10+ different versions of genocide. About the Celestials saying he didn't do anything wrong; that's just not true. The Celestials said that no matter what happened in the trial they would let Garrosh live because there could be no growth without life. If, during the trial, it had turned out that Garrosh routinely punted babies across Orgrimmar for fun they would've still given the same verdict... Truth is, at first Garrosh acted with honor, but he couldn't destroy the Alliance so he got more and more power-hungry and before long he was using anything and everything he could to try and win.

“That boy raw” used to describe Garrosh is so simple but so perfect hahaha

Put a orc warrior who born fighter in charge expect him to ZUG ZUG

during the whole Sylvanas raising Horde as Undead, Garrosh has a back and forth with her that was eventually edited; Garrosh: "unnatural! what is the difference between YOU and the Lich King NOW??" Sylvanas: "simple, i serve the Horde." Garrosh: "watch your clever mouth, bitch!" "i will be watching you..."

The video was an April Fools day thing. Second, it didn't even touch on some of the worst stuff Garrosh did.

2:44 i would have to consult the books, but im almost sure thats not entirely true. the video makes it sound like the clans were in a constant state of warring one another, but fairly sure they only had occasional skirmishes. yeah, page 46 of volume 2 of chronicles, paraphrased: the various orc clans that had formed by then traded blows and had territorial disputes with the ogre kingdoms. reading further, eventually they went to war with the ogres and destroyed the seat of their empire with the help of the elements. than a couple hundred years later the draenei crashed into the planet. and thats about it, only more skirmishes between orcs, ogres and draenei up until the burning legion started to undermine and corrupt orc culture. 4:20 this is interesting to me, because i used the same phrasing of "thrusting the leadership title onto someone unwilling" on the other video, when talking about Yrel. both were burdened with it in a time of crisis, both had mentors along their path, yet Yrel remained virtuous, while Garrosh did not. 7:07 iffy on that one too, im _fairly_ sure that the horde wasnt at war with theramore. while theramore is part of the alliance, its its own, independent nation/city state and at that point jaina was still pretty peaceful, because she was buddies with thrall. _HOWEVER_ the alliance used theramore as its major naval port on kalimdor, pretty close to orgrimmar and they built a highway into the barrens. so the attack wasnt entirely unjustified. 7:48 thats just plain not true, the two factions would not stop fighting one another. there have been several episodes of (relative) peace between the factions, such as after the 2nd invasion of the burning legion (warcraft 3), but every time conflict eventually broke out again. after these before the events of Battle for Azeroth, anduin sought peace with sylvanas and it also didnt happen. wrathion is a dragon, but still young and naive in the end. garrosh was made warchief against his will, but his actions are his own. up to a point, he was fully aware and in charge of everything he was doing. the video also fails to mention his rampant racism, believing the orcs to be plain superior to all other species, only seeing the tauren as near-equals because of their strength, their physical prowess. by comparison, anduin also had the leadership thrust upon him, several times in fact. he saw people around him betray him and the alliance or die, protecting him and the alliance. he held onto his convictions of bringing peace, not war. even things like sieging the undercity, which cost a huge amount of lives on both sides, was in large part done due to his advisors, especially genn greymane, rather than of his own will. if you want an actual villains by circumstances, you need to learn more about arthas and illidan.

LMAO that April's fool video sure still has an impact. funnily the writer who did Garrosh's most "honorable moment" (when he punished a lieutenant for committing genocide) admitted that was a fuck up

There's an entire questline about Thrall expressing his regrets putting Garrosh in charge in cataclysm. And yes, there's multiple characters who told Thrall that doing that was a horrible idea. Thrall did try to convince him to stop (other characters did as well, like Sunwalker Dezco and Lor'themar Theron), but he just refused and even tried to get some of the other leaders murdered. That last fight you saw with Thrall killing him his just him seeing no other way of saving him. There was a quest leading up to that cutscene where he tried to get Garrosh to surrender because he initially didn't want to kill him again. Also, this video doesn't even begin to fully describe the type of person Garrosh was. He was literally an orc supremacist and a super racist. This man was evil, and what he did, he did because he wanted to do it. We even go into the literal afterlife where we see his soul be tortured, and after he is freed at the end of the raid boss encounter, he just says he'd do it all again... He then proceeds to obliterate himself and the weakened boss, so now he no longer exists. So, yeah, the video skips a lot because the "Garrosh did nothing wrong" is literally poking fun at the players who keep saying he did nothing wrong when he did. It has been a running joke in the community that eventually turned into an annoyance after a while 😅

The bombing of Theramore is what started off a war between the two factions in Mists of Pandaria and it was completely uncalled for. It was between Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria, the two factions were not in open conflict because they had to fight the world-ending threat Deathwing. Garrosh might have good intentions (securing land, resources for his people) but he does it in the most brutal and hateful way, without any kind of diplomacy despite what his many advisors tell him, even Saurfang is more wise and diplomatic than Garrosh. Naming garrosh warchief was always a bad idea, it would be like naming a soldier from WW1 president today. Obviously he would then ignore basic diplomacy and use old traditional orc tactics from his homeworld Draenor. Mischaracterizing his father Grom just because he was a good friend to Thrall and he sacrificed himself was also not a good idea. A problem with garrosh though is that multiple people wrote his character and did not have the same vision for him, whence his honorable act when he killed his general who wanted to kill innocents. Other writers seem to have the racist, orc supremacist, violent and hateful vision for the character that he ended up being at the end of Mists of Pandaria.

Not sure if anyone's mentioned but it shows Thralls mistakes that doomhammer, his weapon stops answering him and he loses his strong connection to the elements for two expansions. That's why in legion enhancement shamans get doomhammer as their artifact.

You should do a short for the final shadowlands scene with Garrosh.

Garrosh knew being put in the Warchief position wasn't a good idea as did the other Horde leaders, but Thrall had too much faith in thinking that Garrosh would listen to the advice given to him by the other Horde leaders. Garrosh was too headstrong, he didn't agree with the advice, he believed war and basically tyranny was the only way to solve all the problems of the horde. He cast aside the allied races and didn't listen to reason because now that he was in power, he felt his decisions were the right ones.

Now see the date on which the video was posted

Man i grew up with Garrosh, seeing him in Nagrand during the Burning Crusade expansion I was so hyped knowing the Hellscream name. Then we go into Wrath and he is just a boss, the Ulduar trailer was so good. Then cata happens, Blizzard cut some content out so Garrosh goes from a place of punishing those that kill without honor to using the power of a old god to burn the world down. And it was so out of left field.

I think what Blizzard wanted to do, is to make Thrall and Anduin (kinda the leaders of the factions, more or less) make some mistakes, deliberately, in a way, so that they don't exactly appear perfect, goody two shoes, and actually make them maybe a bit more relatable to real life, so that they have something to suffer for, like Thrall puttin Garrosh in charge and than having to kill him, or Anduin failing the night elves at Teldrassil and getting possessed my the Jailer and kill people, you know, stuff that might actually impact the psyche of a person. I personally am okay with what happened so far, people are not perfect and that's alright, it's more relatable I'd say.

Fun fact, Garrosh is actually older than Thrall

If you liked Garrosh, youll love Illidan Stormrage, my favorite character in Warcraft along with his brother Malfurion.

are there any rules that states you cannot perform magic during mak'gora, unless specifically agreed upon?

Garrosh definitely did some "questionable" things but so did every wartime president in history (Hiroshima and Nagasaki?) from his point of view, he did what he had to do, and he had courage to do it... and history is written by victors

Hurricane video reactions when? Specifically Anything he has done from his Naxx video and later. Ill give you a list if you need one. His videos are so good blizzard hired him to promote classic releases.

Never stop before a video is complete, you finished out before literally the most important part. The last few seconds of it more or less says "this video was the power of propaganda. Everything sounds better if you only tell the good parts" :)

Garrosh is a nepo-baby who did literally everything wrong. He was thrust into the role of warchief because of how much Thrall liked Grom.

There's so much of the Horde Lore that doesn't make full sense. Mostly it did - for a long time - seem that the main story arc they (Blizzard) held on to, was to swap out Warchifs. Oh we have a bad ass warchief... oh he ded. Oh! we get a new even more awesome... oh he ran away to hide. Yay we got new warchief... corrupted AND ded. We got new warchi... nwm.. DEAD. Ok, NOW we have an undead warchief, at least this warchief won't die - Dabs deep in void magic and what not, to become the most OP dudesse who's favurite past time is doing the "Team Sylvanas blasting off again". And I'm over here like... When tf is it the Alliance's turn? Yes they lost Varian - okay, And okay, then they had the most OP druid ever turned into a total simp. But otherwise...Where is all their trauma/drama? Yeah Anduin broke, but he is still alive and a leader. I don't think I will ever be able not to be salty of the unfairness :P

You should watch platinum wow's video on garrosh if you wanna go more in depth about him, his vids are funny but also bery informative

he got black mailed

Lok'tar Ogar!

ZUG ZUG!

Garrosh and Sylvanas were both amazing morally grey characters that never should have been made warchief and their characters just got kind of ruined and turned totally evil because idk they needed a big bad boss or smth. Garrosh absolutely did a lotta wrong, but he shouldnt have been in that position in the first place. And before he was in that position he was much more interesting as a character just like Sylvanas. Both were ruthless, maybe even cruel, definitely not "good people" but nuanced. Garrosh had honor. Sylvanas seemed to genuinely care for the forsaken. But they decided to make them warchief and garrosh goes full blown genocidal racist maniac and sylvanas goes full blown genocidal selfish maniac (but its okay the jailer made her do it)

Garrosh is pure horde pride! best warchief

Garrosh : Speedruns world record for war crimes glitchless any% while acting all honourable and in the meantime loses every single ally the Horde has ever had while praising the horde's strength. Some people : Garrosh did nothing wrong.

The video you watched kinda glosses over a lot (hard to cram a lot into a video), but Garrosh was very much an evil dude. He's not terrible sympathetic once you understand his whole story. He was presented with the option of trade and peace many times and kind of spat in the face of it. Also the Stonetalon Mountains thing (where he killed his Captain for killing innocents) has been recognized by the developers as a mistake. He was never supposed to be framed as noble during that questline. That being said, its been fun watching you dive into WoW and all the lore!

did NOTHING wrong!

anyone that says garosh did nothing wrong is probably a psychopath, he did SO MANY THINGS wrong lmfao

YT seams dont like harsh crismn ^^ Realy sadly. I just spit out the true what garosh realy is... Anyways this Video is wronge at what you react and you know it happy wise.

I always stand behind the villains. Garrosh was an amazing leader, and even defended the enemy in the case of his people killing innocence. Sylvanas, I followed her to the end, and the storyline could have been great (until blizzard fucked it up and it wasn't).

You should watch the lords of war shorts, they give you some quick stories and details on each of the war lords from the Warlords of Dreanor expansion you recently reacted to.

Jesus, 6 minutes in and this guy has whitewashed Garrosh history more than Thrall whitewashed Orc history to Garrosh. Garrosh was already depicted as utterly incompetent and unhinged during Wrath with Saurfang constantly cleaning up after his messes in secret. Garrosh has only two positive showings during Cataclysm: Stonetalon Mountain and the way he dealt with Jaina and Theramore. Jaina turned Theramore into an Alliance military base to be used as a military staging ground to harass the Horde. So Garrosh bombed the hell out of that city because its proximity to Orgrimmar made it too dangerous to exist as long as Jaina was using it to aid the Alliance against the Horde. He allowed the inhabitants of the city to evacuate first. In Stonetalon he executed a general for slaughtering Alliance civilians. The thing in Silverpine where he told Sylvanas to stop using the plague was because he was trying to use his invasion of Gilneas to kill off the Forsaken and in the process maybe capture Gilneas as well for his Orcs. The plague made the Forsaken too effective which would in turn meant that the Forsaken and Sylvanas would become the primary benefactors of that invasion in place of his Orcs.

7:20 Min.: You CANT exuse sutch a curel act of throwing a nukt with sutch poorly words of "he fights befor"... Throwing a nukt is wronge. End of the story. Garosh did there somthing wronge. So "Garosh did nothing wronge" is still proofed wronge and this after the hafe of the reaction. How can guys say unironicly that he did nothing wronge... I fully not understand and i will never understand this foolischness

Garrosh did lots of wrongs. He did have good intentions, but it doesn't really make him innocent

Garrosh literally does genocide on civilians and commits war crimes for breakfast every day, and people like "He done nothiong wrong" Garrosh is basically WOW Hitler. Even Hitler cared about his people and country. That does not justrify his actions lol.

Thrall fostered Garrosh in a sense, he figured that with time Garrosh would become a good man, like his friend who died repenting for his mistakes, but Garrosh was NOT like his father in that way, he was just as Brash, twice as Stubborn and what's worse he was now Prideful. this Pride would lead him to stand firm and never admit that he was f***ing up, even when he sometimes knew that he was f***ing up. between this unwavering Pride and the traditions he grew up with as an Orc from Draenor, he was ultimately the best choice of Warchief, but not for the Horde, being too much of a savage who valued Strength above all else.

Final fantasy 14 Fan stop reacting and finally play World of Warcraft 😂

Whoever made that video you're reacting to is delusional. Jesus christ

This comment can be deleted, but I'll try anyway: I remember from history an Austrian painter who had a similarly "good idea of ​​peace".

This video makes so many stretches, glosses over so much and just flat out gets so much wrong about the story of Garrosh. Its pretty much the equivalent of historical revisionism.

I play alliance, always have. I’ve always been “Garrosh bad, Thrall is green Jesus”. But now I have some searching to do, this may have changed my mind. 🫣