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I get that there other alternatives and they all might be great, but for me, part of the appeal of armada was that it was Star Wars and there is something incredibly satisfying about running an imperial star destroyer

As long as they aren't AMG games...

Under your advice my group had found our "Sweet" spot, and the week before the cancelation of Armada, we bulk ordered through our LGS, just stuff we wanted. Hammerheads, Thrawn's ship, card upgrade packs, dial packs, tourney kit, one of us got a SSD on the order, another original Core Starter set. Things like that to flush out some players collections and to have a few extra dice, maneuver tool etc. Suddenly its all out of stock, everything on Amazon is gone, it all quadrupled in price before being removed and in many cases, not even searchable. I'll let you know if that order we placed actually arrives. The LGS we use has basically never failed to deliver anything we've ordered in the past. So I'm hopeful.

My buddy and I play a lot of One Page Rules Grimdark Future with Star Wars models. Works real well.

Hilarious that you have a sinking x-wing in the background. And sad.

Dropfleet Commander definitely seems like an interesting space fleet battle game. I'm really hoping that Halo Flashpoint does well so that Mantic invests in a more Legion/40k/AoS style game with Halo.

Full Thrust from Ground Zero Games is lots of fun.

Star Fleet Battles is a great starship skirmish game, a proven wargame w/no stinking cards. Emphasis on the geometry of firing arcs, simultaneous movement and slow graceful lumbering movement of large ships. It’s been around since 1977 and isn’t going away anytime soon. Fed Commander is a good streamlined derivative based on the same principles. Sorry, no preprinted mini’s but there is a line of mini’s that can be acquired and painted. Often times, the game engine is so good we forego the window dressing of mini’s to get to the real fun, deep, tactical gameplay.

can't recommend Dropfleet Commander enough, it's such a fun game. I really love the range and targeting system with ships being able to try and slow roll to avoid fire or go in guns/engines blazing. And the ship aesthetics are very cool.

Star Trek into the Unknown looks very promising. The development team is A+ and I like the idea of having "mission" focused games rather than always combat focused.

Before X-wing, I used to play Silent Death. My group even used Star Wars micro machine toys to play a Star Wars conversion we found in the old Star Wars Gamer. I bet there is a PDF out there somewhere.

Definitely have to add that Dropfleet Commander is awesome. Really unique, interesting mechanic (pings and detection) but it can be quite a bit fidgety. I've super-glued large washers to the bottoms of my starships to help them not slide around the table.

Our group still plays AD&D and Warhammer 2nd edition. We pulled out West End Games Star Wars about two years ago and did a couple of modules. I am not really worried about games going out if production other than the prices can go up once they get harder to find.

What happened with Armada and X-Wing is why I've been moving towards miniature-agnostic games

Referring to your comment on Snap Ships Tactics. That's the draw for Legion! you buy the expansion and build it, #1 you get to paint them! #2 then you get to show them off, #3 and last BUT NOT least, playing!!! such a satisfying game!

Cyberpunk Red Combat Zone is an amazing gaming system! I love Star Wars Legion and Shatterpoint, but Cyberpunk's deceptively simply game system is quick fun to play and yet allows for plenty of strategy. Can't recommend it enough!

All of my friends picked up Void Admiral, you can use your armada ships, and the rules cost $8 for a hard copy or $2 for the digital one, totally worth a try.

Not sure how you could say it but you, Crabbok, are not responsible for how players feel about the game and whether it “survives”. These are totally valid and helpful for those who want a game that is still actively developed.

Can’t wait for Star Trek ITU - it looks great and the demo showed lots of potential.

Huge dropfleet commander fan here. It's a great time to start, new edition is on the horizon and ttcombat is clearing out their old starter sets. Great value for money. It's a very granular but rewarding game, and don't forget you've got ground combat as well ❤❤❤

Star Trek into the unknown sounds interesting. To me x-wing and Armada suffered because all they were about was combat. They lacked interesting g and various mission scenarios and the total focus on one type of theme led directly to the highly competitive meta that killed the games.

The local club just got into Dropfleet Commander at an opportune time, it turns out, as the new edition is on the way. The models are really nice and quite easy to put together (compared to, say, GW nightmare kits with 20+ pieces for a single man size model) unless you want to magnetize, in which case the difficulty spikes hard. And as Crabbok says, easy to paint. It lacks Armada's fantastic shoot first, then move, system (which really underlines slow, lumbering capital ships) but has a lot of very fun rules, including the basic targeting system, where weapon range is based on how much "noise" the opposing ships made its last activation. If a battleship really went to town, firing all its weapons and launching all its fighter craft, gunning its engines to the max or manouvering hard, it lights up like an energy christmas tree and you can shoot it from a long way away. And it is an actual fleet game. Even my relatively small 999 point battlefleet consists of almost twenty ships of varying sizes (fighter screen not included), including utility ships that scan for enemy ships to paint them, point defense frigates and athmosphere hunters - because most of the game's scenarios are based around landing troops on space stations or planets from dedicated dropship carriers to win. We're also big into Warmachine, and several people play GW games, but if you're trying to get away from the hazards of corporate game giants the last is probably not for you :D

I am very interested in Star Trek into the unknown but I don't personally like wizkids as a company. I'm going to wait to see where the future of that game is going.

Or you can play Xwing differently in coop with the wonderful fan mode Heroes of Aturi Cluster.

Good mentions on this list - ST Unknown I really want to try now. Thanks!

Wow dropfleet commander... it looks great.

Drop fleet and drop zone are fun and fairly unique systems I would second your recommendation for drop fleet.

Can highly recommend Cyberpunk combat zone.

I downloaded One Page Rules and bought two bags of plastic army men at Amazon. Total cost about 20 bucks. Having a blast.

I like that part of Star Trek that includes not just battles and shooting. I've always wanted something that was a smash of Catan and Memior 44. Both of which I like but are for sure on the simpler side of games I have played.

I would highly recommend Dropfleet Commander. It's fun to play, the models are great, and it's not as expensive as something like a Games Workshop product (though to be fair that's a high bar). The lore is excellent as well, in my opinion, but still leaves a lot of room for customization.

I will be checking out these soon!

Can definitely recommend one page rules Grimdark Future Warfleets. It’s a bit more similar to games like BFG, but has some armada influence as well. Game is model agnostic so you can use all of your armada minis to play and the rules are completely free.

I am supper excited for halo flash point I can’t to see some play through’s of that

Dropfleet Commander is my go to space combat game. I'm looking forward to the possible new edition. Star Trek into the unknown looks promising, I want an Akira class.

Long live the empire

You left out the elephant in the room. GW has a futuristic combat game that has proven to be very successful. Around here I could do a pickup game every weekend. Many factions, deep, deep lore, with new products coming out all the time (although it is a little on the expensive side).

Star Trek Into The Unknown needs to be released already!

I’m definitely getting Star Trek Into the Unknown!

Mike Hutchinson of Planet Smasher Games (Gas Lands, A Billion Suns) recently commented that he is working on an expansion to A Billion Suns to make use of Armada's miniatures. ABS is pretty neat as it supports battles that are taking place in different systems simultaneously with drop points. He's also looking at a Gaslands in space version that is described as "What if Gaslands, X-Wing, and Frostgrave had a baby?" that would work very well with x-wing miniatures. Time Coded Video Link where he discusses: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IJVBnavkDV8.html

I haven’t seen any one play dropfleet in my local area. It is hard to get behind a game without a group :-/

Crabbok, thanks for the daily video, some good suggestions today. Quick question: any idea what Asomodee did with their remaining Armada stock? I cant find the Clone Wars stuff, especially Venators. Do they have a "clearing-house" type of page? Ebay is kind of absurd right now. Thanks for the insight.

Dropfleet Commander looks nice

As interesting as some of these games look, the star wars part of x-wing was a big seller for me and as I only play x-wing with my friends a couple times a year now I would probably not play any new games very often. The idea of getting into a new game also seems exhausting to me. As I get older it's probably good that my last hurrah in miniature game spending is happening right now and I will be saving money for mortgage and other things afterwards. Besides, I still haven't flown the majority of pilots in x-wing so that will last me ages.

Play Star Fleet Battles. It's worth the investment of time to learn the rules. Dead cheap compared to X-wing or Armada. Been pretty much the same since the late '70s. Classic Star Trek ships (plus some "Star Fleet Universe" originals) dueling with phasers, disruptors, photon torpedoes, etc. Good fun and very tactically deep.

Seriously appreciate your work on all your content! REALLY looking forward to STAR TREK!. Live long and prosper! 🤩

As an alterative to Armada - accepted in a very different setting, my local group are getting into Dystopian Wars.

I backed EVE: War for New Eden, largely because I had a feeling Armada was going to be dropped by AMG. Not sure how that will play out, but it looks interesting. That being said, it's a board game and very component heavy.

I just put $300 into combat zone. Got the Starter set in the new kickstarter, Max Tac, and the ship they fly around in.

Ending support, and stopping production are two seperate things. That is the most frustrating thing about all this. In the end, i played both X-Wing and Armada because it is Star Wars. All the stories, movies, books, and lore. Most of these other games have next to no lore and background, at least any I am familiar with.. Diminishes the appeal to me. Thanks for the options, though.

My son is all in on halo flashpoint

Still hate to see the drop of XWing and Armada, though it was seen from the horizon, but I appreciate you for providing some alternatives with seemingly future support and content.

Definitely hypes for halo and been looking at cyberpunk. I have friends who don't play minis games and both of these have nabbed their attention. My only hang up with cyberpunk is necromanda fills that niche for me, but with luck I can just get the rules and use my necromunda minis

Dropfleet Commander is Awesome

+1 for snap ships, so much replay value

I love Dopfleet as there is strategy you need to consider depending on which scenario you are playing. That scenario can determine how you build your fleets too. Had a game where I won the space fight, but royally lost the game. The only downside to the game for me is it takes a serios time commitment to play (3+ hours, but newbies).

Try Malifaux, its awesome. And I already bought the starter set for Dropfleet Commander since Armanada is Dead…

The only bad part about Star Trek Into the Unknown is that it’s delayed until October! I’ve got it pre-ordered and can’t wait for it to arrive!

Shout out to Aerodome as its a cool dogfighting game with cards and no minis. Great beer and pretzels game

Will Star Trek Into the Unknown have expansions for original series ships. I have soooooooo many Next Generation games already.

I’ll just say with armada being axed, into the unknown couldn’t come at a better time. If you want your flagship fix , into the unknown is it. I hope it works as a combat game and an objective game from the start.

24 seconds. That’s a new record for me.

$149.99 for Star Trek...... Really. Makes me wonder about the expansions.

Crabbock ,I am sorry . . . .I will keep playing ARMADA!

Is there any chance another company could buy the license for Armada and keep it going?

Dude, not gonna mention Core Space? It’s an amazing game, IMO.

Is dropfleet commander at GenCon I wonder? I’d love to grab a demo

Wiz kids did Attack Wing a while back It was supposed to be there version of X-Wing. It was badly designed with too many factions. To see former X-Wing designers says a lot to me. I like that it's not like X- Wing I have X-Wing fir that.

Such a sad time but not surprised

Star Trek Into the Unknown sounds exciting, but right now there's a gaping hole where Star Wars space table top used to be. Either a new studio needs to pick up Armada and X-Wing or we need a new Star Wars space game.

Star Trek Into the Uknown it is.

I do think it's a shame that they are basing the halo game primarily on the MP mode of the games, i grew up on Playstation so i don't have nostalgia for there MP. I only ever really played the campaigns, so when i think of halo i think of a one man army spartan vs a bunch of aliens with maybe some marines around an invincible ally or 2

It would be possible for another company to take up x wing again? Is that so absurd?

My wallet was saying "no" to the Star Trek game, but now that there are no new X-Wing star-fighters coming out, I may have to rethink diving into the game.

as a part of Armada player i will refuse getting these alternative games because for me the Star Wars: Armada wasnt finished because seperatists have less ships then Rebels, Imperials and Republic. for me it doesnt make sense there must be more then these few ships and in other words this game isnt having his potential to maximum there must be more then these upgrades and for me its a shame that they stopped updating the game on rules and stuff. i might think about that to pull triggers and take the whole thing on my own hands but if i do it then i would live my life with consequenzes on copyrights and stuff.... Star Wars: Armada must go on it is not finished !!!!!!!

Can you talk about battle fleet gohic

Hopefully Star Trek is better than Attack Wing.

I'm broken hearted about X-Wing leaving, though been looking at another air combat based game called Aerodome Rising Horizons. I've seen it being played in some of the local game shops here around Austin and looks promising. Just ordered.

i think there is something wrong when a game announce there will be no new content does not mean the game ended... it means it is COMPLETE, it is in it's final and best form and maybe it is time to complete the collection with more and try bigger games, thematic stuff ecc.

Am I the only one who has zero interest in shatterpoint? I haven't bought a shred of AMG content.

Dropship looked promising, but sprues? Those are an archaic relic that need to disappear. The "it has to be done this way for detailing" excuse hasn't held water for years. Even less so when you look at the insanely detailed minis being put out by crowd funded games and especially not in the wake of games like Xwing and Armada.

The remaining planes have been repackaged for Legion Imperialis, but Aeronautica Imperialis is still kind of a thing. Gameplay is great and could appeal to X-wing players. 3d printers are a thing for the factions that were removed.

Currently im waiting on Apex Legends to ship. I supported them on kickstarter

All sucks