Flat Earthers think NASA 'Blue Screen' the ISS 

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He don't believe ur explanation bro

@@TryHardCentral 😅😅

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I obviously don't think that NASA is just doing CGI, but there are plenty of examples of people at the top of their field making glaring and damaging mistakes. Security vulnerabilities in software is one example, where extremely competent software engineering teams (complete with teams that do security audits) end up making errors that end up wreaking havoc.

@@sophiophile I think the main issue is making the exact same glaring "mistake" over and over despite people constantly going "gotcha" at them. Since it's not actually a mistake.

@@sophiophilesecurity vulnerabilities in software is in a completely different category than vfx mistakes. Most software nowadays is too complex for even an expert to innately understand how every part works. You can’t catch all possible bad behavior by doing a code review. But a VFX artist can inspect their work frame by frame and catch all the imperfections if they’re paid enough to. Their work doesn’t have side-effects. Their only deliverable is the output, which they have complete control over.

It's worse than that... NASA have been doing CGI for over 2,500 years and still leave these glaring and obvious mistakes in their work that only individuals who are so special they are unable to see the apparent rotation of the stars are different in the Northern and Southern hemispheres transitioning through rolling overhead at the equator...

@@sophiophile Name a security vulnerability that was a obvious and glaring mistake to non professionals in the field. Not even the most amateur of amateurs would use that as a green screen. It does not compare.

Yeah, if they really did this kind of things, with malicious intent, they sure as hell would not have been so stupid as to blatantly show it of like that...

@@GummieIReminds me of the disgusting claim that the Challenger crew are alive and well, teaching in universities with their same names. The government is pretty good at witness protection. If that was true we’d never know where they were. But no, they didn’t even change their names. It’s both insulting that our government would be that inept, and of course, insulting to the crew and families. Beneath contempt.

Can you please avoid overloading my sarcasm meter ?

I know it's crazy. So much money involved, so many people, such complexity in the lie to 8 billion people and they forget to watch the thing that, time after time keeps giving it away. You would think after the first time they mistakenly let the truth out that they would double down on their checks before issuing to the public. What the fuck do we pay these clowns for?

@@twocyclediesel1280 By their logic, because two people look similar, they *must* be the same person; Adolf Hitler and Charlie Chaplain are the same person...

And there is a high quality doggle.

Sad part is those flatters are so dumb and arrogant to look into anything critically that challenges their beliefs.. talk about irony...

Don't forget the dog 😛

Honestly why I love Flat Earth Debunking videos so much. It's rarely *just* beating a dead horse - depending on the expertise of the creator, you'll also get a lesson in decompositional biochemistry, a zoological or mycological breakdown of scavenger species, a dissertation on historical human treatment of dead horses, etc.

@@NeutralDrow and cute dogs!

I KNEW IT! Irrefutable PRUF! DA ERF AM FLAT!

DA AERTH ES FLAT, BRATHER!

Obviously this conspiracy is so complex and multilayered that they faked the fakery to make the faking look fake. Or something... 🤣

@@FectacularSpail Not forgetting that it's done so well that only a few "special" individuals can tell that it's fake due to apparently very obvious flaws that somehow were missed when faking it. These are the same people that somehow have yet to zoom the Eiffel tower back into view from New York.

​@@FectacularSpailor is the world really round and the conspiracy to hide the fact that it's flat is in fact a conspiracy to hide the fact that it's actually round?!

I have it on the best authority that Dave is a NASA shill, so obviously he will have access to the best CGI software. I assume he hasn't installed the latest update yet though as the 'screen freeze and color shift' module hasn't loaded properly. /s

oh... and I always suspected the dog had edited Dave into the videos, because it would be odd to hear a dog explaining us that flat earthers aren't the brightest candles on the cake ;)

Wait you mean Dave has not been CGI run by an AI Chat Bot this whole time?

​@@Urban_Spacemanbut NASA doesn't have the best CGI. They have a budget in the billions and yet have CGI that can be seen through by Facebook moms, meaning it's worse than what the entertainment industry uses for a hundredth of the cost.

@@battlesheep2552 Thats what 'They' want you to believe. It's all part of the 'Plan'.

I'm pretty sure your "artistic part of the brain" is more alive then any part of a flath earthers brain...

"artistic side of the brain" alone is an absurd premise, even more that it can be "dead".

@@TokyoXtreme It's hard to tell if you''re being serious. If you are, you may like to look up the word "joke" in a dictionary. If not, well played sir.

​​​@@veivoliI think it's just the standard artists pavlovian response to hearing anything vaguely similar to the ideological basis of _Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain_ , a contemptuous rag that frankly deserves all the derision it gets and more.

not to mention an educational video on green screens & special effects

this is the only reason i watch these videos :P

What an interesting species you have in your profile picture

It's almost embarrassing how much more interesting real science is than all this conspiracy nonsense.

You came for another flat earth debunk? Lmfao. I feel bad for you.

Don't forget the fact CGI was being used by NASA a decade before it existed at minimum lol.

Somehow, NASA is part of a cabal spanning all the world's governments, that has essentially unlimited funding and that has been around for centuries while at the SAME time they are bumbling fools whose videos can be dismissed by random internet people as "obviously fake" just by pointing at flaws and mistakes a 17 year old guy in AV club wouldn't make like publishing video showing the "blue screen" This, mind you, on an ongoing basis despite all these "truth speakers" out there in the internet. No attempts are made to buy these people off or take their videos down on a grand scale or silence them by less savoury means. All of this in an age where big movie companies for a few million dollars can produce realistic looking monsters, giant space ships and superheroes flying around the sky.

Did nobody notice that the ball disappeared when it went out of frame and reappeared when it came back in? CGI for sure.

I feel your paun. I am a cameraman and do also a lot of animation and vfx. I get triggered everytime one of those idiots pointing theyr fingers at random stuff and yell greenscreen because they think it makes them look smart. The confidence flatzoid sat there saying "sometimes you just leave the blocks in" makes me wanna kick his ass.

Bro I feel your pain😭 These people are so annoying

Just as they can't science or reality, they can't computers, more than spouting lies on RU-vid and tiktok

I highly doubt it. 'Do your own research!' is just reserved for us globetards.

They don't actually know how to use a blue screen

Of course not. Anything that easily and clearly debunks their claims must be ignored, avoided, disregarded, and actively lied about! (See all videos where they claim there are no non-stop flights along the southern hemisphere...)

@@jesusramirezromo2037 Then why are they talking about it? I got it that traveling to orbit is out of their reach, and only available for a select few, who can as well conspire against us. But they also fail to demonstrate things which is easy and cheap to demonstrate.

And his merry band of Yes-men to agree with every claim.

You don't think he really believes that, do you? It's a grift. To keep it going, Failzoid will make up any bullshit story and just as quickly deny he ever said it when he needs to argue another point.

With Failzoid I more and more get the impression that he comes up with more and more ridiculous explanations to test, up to which point his followers won't get that he's just inventing bullshit. The confidence might come from him knowing that he's talking BS and that his followers would always cheer him, no matter what.

it's impressive that he could explain it as a blue screen while looking at the video where they don't use any blue-screen effects and the camera shows everything *around and behind* the supposed blue screen. But I don't think Flatzoid is a gifter -- I think he's just genuinely that stupid and egocentric that none of that occurred to him.

@@unnamedenemy9 Someone who was just stupid wouldn't deliberately delete frames from a video to push their flat-earth narrative. The fact he did that shows he's dishonest and knew precisely what he was doing and why. He's a grifter.

People? No, despicable *creatures*

The Flat Earthers know that they have no defense, which is why they default to insults.

I'm sorry, but someone has to point out that praising Dave about leveling no insults really should not be followed by calling flat earthers "despicable". 🤦

​@@spacelemur7955on the other hand he's not claiming to be a nice guy like Dave 😉

since dave isnt the one calling people despicable, your point is utterly moot. nice try, though. @@spacelemur7955

Flatzoid immediately becomes the world's leading expert in whatever subject crops up.

Hahahaha, blocking people to support your argument proves just how ignorant you are!

"Letters am hard for Flurf, Brain not work good!" Lol, Flurfs don't understand acronyms at all Gleem had a hissy fit after I informed him that LASER is an acronym.

You forget, for them, everyone is in on it. If something shows that they are wrong then it’s part of the cover up. It’s easy to deny everything when you have a built in excuse.

Flerfs don't understand that. Don't forget, flerfs that don't even live in USA claim NASA is stealing their tax dollars.

Imaginary I would expect. It's about all they got going for them. Never met another group that tries so hard to alter reality for no real goal. Just because.

That's fine as long as they don't get in to school boards and governmental administration.

I wonder whether it's actually all a scam to keep the clicks going. I get the vibe from most flat-earthers that this is the best gig they ever have had or ever will have.

@@spacelemur7955 I feel this regarding Mark Sargent. Flat Earth is the only recognition he gets, and he gets to be the main face of the whole delusional movement. Hell, he managed to get on TV. Why the hell would he stop now? Despite the fact he said he'd quit Flat Earth if given what he asked for, which he received from MCToon... Maybe that....

​@@TooTsakaIs interesting Marks wiki page "Sargent has been a competitive video game player, winning one virtual pinball tournament,[2] and has worked as a software analyst[1], but has no scientific background.[4]" Whereas I have a scientific background lol, well depends on if you consider computer science actual science lol.

@@jeremysmith54565 That's his pride and joy as well, lmfao. Pinball. The only thing he ever won at in life. Left flipper. Right flipper. Bump. Uh... any other controls to speak of? Also, just because it's not in my head, Sargent mentioned about him being told that he didn't carry the 2 in regards to understanding science. So implies he doesn't know how to carry the two. Just something that tickles me. I'm allowed to be petty like that considering who he is.

They need to have it both ways to shoehorn NASA into their completely nonfunctional worldview.

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@@GlobeKrusha Still keeping up this infantile pretence of yours even after admitting it's all play acting? Throw some more emojis out there kid, and make it obvious you have the mental age of diced cabbage.

Dave love teaching, so, he use this as an opportunity to teach us many things about photography.

Flerfers are not idiots, at least the ones who are running their little media empires; they're grifters.

@@MrJustinOtis They prove that people can be both Idiot & Grifter

A few weeks ago he was discussing timezones and daylight and said his friend who lived about 100km South of him gets a longer day than he does in their summer and all he could say was "that's weird". Not even an attempt at a ridiculous explanation.

I find it hard to understand how flerfers exist in South Africa (or just the southern hemisphere in general) in the first place, Flat earth literally falls flat when the southern hemisphere is mentioned cos nothing works for them

FAILzoid is not ignorant. He's plain dishonest. Or plain stupid. Pick one...

MCU films are all digital and use blue screens. He even shows that in the video with footage of Captain Marvel flying in front of a blue screen.

I don't think that is the true reason why to use blue vs green screen today. Much more important deciding factor is the lighting - as Dave mentioned, a high luminosity of the fully lit green background will spill a lot of nasty green reflections on everything we want to keep in a picture, so for night scenes, we go with blue screen. We would also use the blue screen if we want to isolate any greenery (such as trees, bushes, etc), where of course a clear blue sky is amazing bluescreen for free :D. For daylight scenes, greenscreen is great, because we can then freely use a lot of blue shades on our outfits or props, and the green color spill can be successfully suppressed in post. Btw, just for you @mrsnoo86, the first reason why i wanted to reply to your post, was that I am not really sure if it wasn't exactly other way around in a past, that we woudl use bluescreens for small video camera shoots like some weather and similar lil nonsense, and use green screen when we went with film cameras for big commercials - or at least that would be my past experience. (i am 3D guy with over 30 years of experience also in VFX, currently teaching 3D animation and VFX at a high school - so i really would love to get this right for my students! rofl)

@@notgonnahappen7899 The first four (Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor) were shot on film. Digital cinematography didn't really become the standard until the Arri Alexa camera in 2010. Captain America: The First Avenger was a bit of an outlier, primarily using the Panavision Genesis and some film.

@@rayfighter yep, but i also want to add that CCD and CMOS sensor (Digital) are very sensitive to Green color.

Yeah this one blows my mind. Like Dave says, it's the worst possible choice for a "blue screen", demonstrating yet again that flat earthers are ignorant about just about everything. You know this could be excusable if there wasn't such a thing as a searchable "Internet" available to them at their fingertips.

Maybe they have a bet with each other to see how long it takes and who will debunk them first.

well to be fair. flatearthers are some of the most ridiculously stupid people on the planet! In combination with mental problems... That's why it all kind of makes sence to them...

There are visible wires and framing issues, where astronauts dissapear too.

@@Crazen2 Wires visible only to flat earthers?

You GENIUS

Drop that surreptitiously into conspiracy discussions and stand back for the fireworks.

Oh my god... It all makes sense

Also "the flat rear"...

😂😂😂 freakin legend I tell ya

He always remarks how easy it is just because he is able to key a cloud background behind him and sometimes a space helmet in front of his face. The helmet visor of course does not have all the relevant reflections in it that shoukd move every time he turns his head. Not so easy to do if you don't know how.

Do you mean accomplished as in being jabbed in every conceivable orifice?

Im not sure how they dont have the logic to understand that the items and the guy go past the screen so instantly a person with general knowledge knows that not what it is for and also it needs to be all the same color .. as Dave demonstrated the white cuts out half the other things in that shot

Some cameras have a waveform monitor or can be connected to one, which makes it very easy to see how evenly the screen is lit.

@@clivedavis6859 If you're lucky the camera has both :)

Or just soaking up the views from the ini.formed morons who continue to believe the nonsense they spew out. They know they are full of crap, but don't care as they happily pull their money from the ATM

They are, but the reason here is a simple reaction to some trigger elements. Flattards only know that in cgi, some blue or green screen is used, so when they see a blue background, they immediately snap onto "must be cgi, because bluescreen==cgi" and fully stop there, no further explanation or research don. It's just a reflex for certain keywords

@@soriacxIf only they could think for more than two seconds before they present their conclusions! 😂

@@julesdomes6064 True, but they wouldn't be flerfers then 🙂

But 'Flat Earthers believe they think' is too long of a title 😂

@@DaveMcKeegan fair enough.

​@@DaveMcKeeganthen, just limit it to "Flat Earthers Believe." Because that's all they can do without any actual evidence.

It's a sound joke, but highlights a favoured fallacy of flat earthers: cherry picking definitions maliciously, disregarding frequently dozens. Per Merriam-Webster: think, 3a: to have as an opinion.

Flat Earthers make dry toast feel like a genius.

So true, sometimes if I get down on myself, all I have to do is watch a couple of their videos and I’m good.

Look, I know the earth is round. But, I’m less repulsed by flat-earthers than I am by people who treat knowledge as a dick-measuring contest rather than an exercise in intellectual curiosity to better understand the world.

@@ajclarke9189 I seriously used to treat them with kid gloves, trying to have a reasonable discussion with them. After things like getting death threats for politely (and correctly) pointing out that the moon wasn’t over Australia at the time they claimed, and many other such experiences with them, I don’t care anymore. Their arrogance is a bit much for me. I did leave a comment here earlier tho complimenting Dave on his debunking them without insults.

@@ajclarke9189 I don't think that's a valid assessment. From my own perspective and reading many comments, I get the feeling the vast majority find it disappointing to see so many people who not only lack basic knowledge of the world around them but also lack the intelligence and initiative to attain said knowledge. For me it came off more as facetious than sarcastic or sardonic. More surprise and the aforementioned disappointment than a direct insult.

Ah yes, the great flerf reset.

because facts don't matter to unhinged conspiracy theorists. Anything that can't be twisted to fit the self-serving fantasy is ignored.

Do it anyway. Start by telling her that she, as a firm and unshakeable believer on flat Earth, has nothing to fear from this channel. Follow by telling her that you want to know how she debunks this host. Not just say he is wrong, but why and how he is wrong, with facts and reasons. Maybe, just maybe, she'll start to actually Google stuff, like photography and CGI and FX - which would be a win. This channel is the best to recommend, because the host is never offensive. She won't feel personally attacked. At least, not directly. Please, look for a video in this channel that addresses one of your TikToks and make a try. Good luck. ✌

@@MariaMartinez-researcher I had previously tried to show her a video (not a good one, because I wasn't really focused on the ISS footage, but moreso an explanation of why we haven't gone to the moon again), and she wasn't even willing to watch it. I sat there for maybe 2 minutes watching her dumb TikTok and being as calm as I could, I kindly asked her if she could then watch something, and she blew up at me. So I'm not really interested in bringing it up again, regardless of how I do it.

@@DarthTingleBinksSame with one of my family. I listened to her 30 minute podcast about flat earth and she won't watch a 1.5 minute video!

@@DarthTingleBinks That's when you tell them you will not watch any more videos because they won't watch any of yours. At minimum, it should be a handy explanation why you won't watch anything further of that type with her, since she refuses to reciprocate. Sometimes it ends up going to extremes where communication has to be severed because they won't take no for an answer yet agree with anything you want to do but hopefully it isn't that in your case.

@@Tsudico We just don't talk about the topic at all. Besides, she wouldn't dare show me another video because she doesn't want me to challenge her beliefs. She's very sensitive about it. And I'd also prefer for her not to insult my intelligence or my integrity by simply being a rational human being. And it's not the end of the world if she's convinced by bunk ideas. The facts are there for her to see. She can either ignore them or accept them, but her choice is of no relevance to me.

They can't setup a blue screen because they are not TRYING to setup a blue screen. Did you even watch the video?

@@dicedupsausage7524 They were being humorous.

Wouldn't work with Cleo, she'd ... ah , um, cast too deep shadows , not that I noticed, I was too young to watch those, i mean that. 😊

There's your problem: you're assuming that they are actually capable of having thoughts on their own and don't need some con-man to tell them what to believe.

@@TheMjollnir67 ahh yes I overlooked that.

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All the more reason to keep talking about it. A harmful idea unopposed is far more harmful than one opposed

It's true. For conspiracy types looking at the world with a critical mind is like removing their own skin. If any of them could force himself to do it, it would almost certainly push him into insanity.

I kid you not, this quote is something that someone actually said on Flatzoid's last stream: "I am emotionally attached to it [flat earth], and no one can take it away. Like, there is nothing that somebody could show me or say that is going to take it away." The guy literally said this.

@@wiggles7976 Failzoid admitted the same thing when I kept pestering him for an accurate map of the flat earth, first he kept saying 'I have one!' and then when asked repeatedly to provide it, he eventually stated 'I don't subscribe to any map!'

@@leftpastsaturn67 Asking anti-science types for evidence that supports their claim is endless fun. Their endless dodge is all the evidence you need to know that they know they are lying.

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A blue screen with MASSIVE. GREAT. BIG. GRIDS. so it's not even 'a blue screen'...

@@5peciesunkn0wn Haha right?!

Yeah like what was even supposed to be on that screen?

...because those really good guys already work on Avatar. Better pay and you can brag about it on your CV. For the same reason Avatar gets better actors who don't let go of the little green ball for no good reason and float out of the blue screen backdrop to catch it. You know how much it costs to make you appear to float out of the screen? Those guys are wasting tons of money for every little blunder! No wonder NASA is having budget issues. 😋

The thing about these kind of conspiracy theories is A. The government/evil satanic shadow government is all powerful, B. super smart, C. idiotic, D. get there philosophy from the Riddler as they always deliberately leave clues to their plans. The conspiracies are are like the conspiracies in a Dan Brown book. It sounds stupid because it is stupid.

Nope, he actually does it for education, so that the non-idiots in front of the screen can have the "full picture" of what he's talking about. Otherwise simply showing that it doesn't work (as he does at some point) would be enough.

Why can't they see every continent as they should if the Earth was flat 🤷‍♂️

that's a good point, after all, apparently height = view distance

Some argue that it’s like a spotlight, and can only be seen from within a certain angle underneath it. It’s not a good answer, but it’s the best they’ve got.

Yeah, that wouldn't work. I would then still be able to see the land that was illuminated from 10km up. Flying over Europe I would be able to see all of the USA being lit. Or at least see the glow of the reflection. Well, let's wait for a solid explanation from one if the flatties.

Yes, not a ripple :)

Flerfs have the burden of proof completely backwards. They can’t comprehend space so they think space is the “extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary proof”.

I just want to know why they can't even fake the FE map with cgi...

Flatearthers are not interested in knowing any of that. They will say:"green scree" whenever they see compression aftefacts.

That's exactly what it's for.

@@5peciesunkn0wn thanks. That’s what i thought but want sure.